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DACA, The Wall, And Missed Opportunities

Is the chance for immigration reform over?

Richard Spencer and Don Camillo discuss DACA, Trump’s “Wall System,” and the missed opportunity to change the immigration paradigm.

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Richard Spencer is American Editor of AltRight.com; he's President of The National Policy Institute and founder of RadixJournal.com.

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  • If Trump actually wants the Wall, he needs to do three things.
    1) Exit NAFTA.
    2) Impose 100% import duties on imports from Mexico (this will collapse their economy, essentially overnight).
    3) Offer to reduce the duties, in exchange for Mexico fully funding the Wall.

    • Stay away from women ?
      He should gas the juice , yes , but the women ?

      Meh..they try to get some money and attention when you are rich and powerful I guess , but big deal.
      Who cares really ?
      Stay away from the kikes , that’s the key.

  • If only Trump had stayed away from women and Jews he could have been one of the grates… (moral: don’t sleep with your enemy!)

  • Yes Mr. Spencer , but not only DACA and not only The Wall ( as if that wasn’t already enough of a betrayal ).

    – The new omnibus spending bill is not only altogether illogical , totally disconnected from reality ,unmitigated financial psychosis and pure, raw insanity.
    ( as perfectly explained by Rand Paul in this case , we should give him this much . ) but also much of it is simply squandered in black and brown shithole countries and other politically correct shithole causes .
    – The new major appointments , Pompeo and Bolton are THE two single Neocon Extraordinaire in D.C., somehow surpassing in advanced Neoconnism even the earlier kikes and honorary kikes in power.
    – The sanctions against Putin .
    – The anti Assad / anti Putin constant narrative running rampant in Trump admin.
    – The neo-con progressive warmonger ignorant slut he put there as USA ONU ambassador.
    I am going to stop now .
    Enough.

    I know …I KNOW ..I should never put any of my heart into any democratic politician , I should never mix any of my love with democracy altogether….never.
    But God , my poor heart finding out what I deep inside always knew :
    What a worthless ,ignorant clown Donald Trump is , even when compared to a consistent , honorable and deeply prepared man like Pat Buchanan.

  • We can’t deport, so we much IMPORT white folks – SA White Boers are the most obvious whites in need of refugee status. Trump OWES us big time after the disgusting, immoral #Omnibus bill he signed.
    Richard, Some SA Boers can’t or won’t leave. So we need to “FORCE THEM TO BE FREE” as you stated to Angela Nagle.
    Let’s also force Trump to grant a non-stop refugee program for these genocided people.

    • That was the dumbest ameriburger shit I’ve read in my entire life. Only a people without roots and culture whould say something so ignorant.

  • Er… paradigmatic – with the g pronounced – in British English at least (source: the Oxford English Dictionary, full edition on CD Rom). Para-digg-mat-ik.

  • The system/establishment hates whomever the Jews hate. The Jews hate and fear white nationalism because it’s the only force that can defeat them and their genocidal plans. I do believe the day isn’t far off when their (((government))) will be resorting to extra legal and extra constitutional measures and hard tyranny against us. In some cases they already have such as Charlottesville.

    • They’re already there…….

      They think they’re going to stop us……..

      But, they’re not going to……..

      Even with all the infighting……….

      In some shape or form, this White Identity Movement is destined to RISE…….

  • A shame. This was probably the last chance to do something legally. I’m worried about demographics but I still believe a comeback is more than possible. Are we not great? Will we not persevere? How can you be an ethnic nationalist if you don’t believe in the greatness of your own people?

    Trump sold us out, but I still think his best (and at this point, only) contribution was shifting the overton window for us.

    Also unrelated, but the comments sections have been cancerous after the site came back up. Did you guys lose moderators or something?

    • Agreed.

      Re. the comments section- partially the result of losing Disqus, partially the result of Anglin’s ongoing campaign to destroy membership organizations like Patriot Front and TWP that are right of his red shoe brigade.

    • The Overton Window did Shift…….

      That was a Huge Victory…….

      But, our Enemies are Myriad………

      And even more Myriad and Powerful than any of us probably realize…….

      There are Numerous Scores of (((People))) who have been studying and analyzing us for 2 years now…….

      Locating our Weaknesses and Designing Methodologies to Defeat us……

      At the Present……

      We have to Accept that this Movement will now be Separate Satellites…….

      Related but Separate……..

      Grudges Fade rather quickly when our Enemy is trying to Defeat us ALL…………

      A Satellite Group recently had a Successful Flyering Event all over America and beyond……

      Was the Enemy Triggered??

      Yup……

      Good Stuff……..

      Anytime the Enemy is Triggered by any of the Satellites……..

      Good Stuff……..

  • Spencer is right that the regime views the Alt-Right as a bigger threat than radical Muslims. The globalist regime’s biggest enemy in the West is the Alt-Right/populist/ nationalist movement. The biggest enemy outside the West is Russia. Much of Russia-gate is about using the threat of a foreign enemy (Russia) to attack a domestic enemy (alt-right).

    • It would probably be more accurate to say that we are definitely a greater threat than Sunni Muslims.

      We should support Shi’ites who stay home and destroy our ZOG enemies, and their Sunni puppets.

      • Completely changing the repubs from the inside seems more doable and effective.
        Since the Dixiecrats no third party has had any relevance whatsoever in America.
        And these are not the 50’s .
        The other option is to simply secede as a race .

        But democracy ?
        The only way would be to infiltrate republicans in a smart , gradual ,not too open way.
        We cannot win anymore in the full democracy game.
        Time is already up .

    • The Point is to make the GOP feel the Pain……

      True…..

      But, to vote for the Democrats is to Self-Castrate…….

    • I suspect you are going to get your wish, courtesy of working-class White women. If Trump makes it to 2020, he may be only the third Republican presidential candidate to lose White Women since 1952.

      Some say women’s voting patterns prove nothing because our presence moves the entire political spectrum left on race and immigration, but the 2016 election seems to have shown that this is only half true.

      College-educated White women swung massively to the Dems, voting only 44% for Trump as opposed to 56% for Romney. There was no such swing among college White men, who voted the same as they had in 2012.

      OTOH, non-college White women swung just as dramatically in the other direction. This suggests that White women are not inherently averse to pro-White politics unless they have been through college indoctrination. (The way to find out for sure would be to examine college-educated White women’s votes by age. I would expect that women who graduated in the 80s [give or take a few years] were more likely to vote for Trump than other college-educated women.)

      Here’s the thing, though, while some of the college White women who voted for HRC will have come to their senses by then, the higher ed meat grinders will have replaced them. These women will NOT return to the GOP and vote for Trump under any circumstances, no matter how much he cucks.

      OTOH, working class White women value the welfare state. They have proven that they are willing to vote for White interests, but they won’t be fooled twice. These women are emphatically not interested in the Paul Ryan agenda and if Trump quacks like a cuck they will treat him as such and swing back to the Dems whom they view as more reliable on the social safety net.

      College White women will reject Trump based on his words, non-college White women will reject him based on his actions (or lack thereof). The result will be a White female majority, if not an overall White majority, for the Dems.

      It’s important to remember that if you divide Whites into four groups based on sex and education, the single largest group will be these non-college White women. There are more non-college Whites than college Whites, and women are 53% of the non-college Whites, because women live longer, less dangerous lives than men. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

      • BTW It bears noting that a 44% vote for Trump among college White women was almost certainly a massive poke in the eye to the establishment. I suspect if you broke this down even further by marriage, you would find that a majority of married White women with college degrees voted for Trump.

        The establishment is on notice that White women will only support their agenda as long as they have been systematically browbeaten into it, and don’t have a family. Failing either of those two conditions, we won’t vote as we “should.”

        • Well said .
          I salute you with honor ,while enthusiastically honoring also the fact that we DO have a sizeable number of white women like you, on our side.
          It is NOT a matter of being a “White Knight ” AT ALL .
          I suspect you too ,like me, consider feminism an insane abomination, a rounding up of the craziest harpies in society for the most psychotically insane purposes and maybe you even see many of the “men’s rights ” points as reasonable and understandable .
          But , on the other hand , some of the anti women hate form a few around here ..man !
          And I am talking about women ON OUR SIDE !
          I am sure it is just a minority of alt-righters .. but it is at times something really weird to witness , I fail to see any point in it.
          Because in the end ,there is always a bottom line question of survival :
          Do we want to fucking survive as a race ?

          • I think the men’s rights movement absolutely has legitimate concerns, and it would be a shame for that to get lost in the misdirected hatred.

            The thing that I hate so much about contemporary politics is the idea that some have a right to be heard and others have a duty to shut up and listen. That never works over the long run.

    • My apologizes, Richard Spencer mentioned this. He is correct, a new paradigm is needed. But the new paradigm has little to do with congress. If congress or the Presidency are good for anything for us, it’s protecting free speech, internet freedom, and gun rights.

      • Paradigm shift? Anything we do at the National stage will not last. The only good having a bigger voice on the national stage is expose people to the truth.

        The most up to date count for the population of US Whites alone, nonHispanic origin is 199,665,900, according to the US census (Ref 2), but this is not accurate. Using data from the CDC and Pew Research Institute we have a more accurate number. The data shows that nonWhites are counted as White even though they don’t share the same genetic origin. There is three groups counted as White when they are not. People from the Middle East, 2.1%, people of Jewish origin, 2.3%, and biracial newborns from a White mother, 4.62% (Ref 3-5). Using this data the White alone, nonHispanic origin US population is 181,656,036, which is 54.7% of the population.

        US Whites in 2050:
        The median age for Whites is 44.9. By 2030, all baby boomers will be older than age 65 (Ref 6). At this point there will be drastic changes in demographics. The White population will start to plummet. Birth rate for Whites is 10.7 (Ref 7). Using the CDC births and mortality data we see the reality of the demographics change in 2050 (Ref 8). By 2050, the US White population will be 94,182,573 with no end in sight. Because of the situation we are in this will continue to dive until we are at fraction to what we are now. In other White countries they are also expected to have drastic changes in demographics as well (Ref 9).

        “So the most up to date count for the population of US Whites alone, nonHispanic origin is 199,665,900, according to the US census (Ref 2), but this is not accurate. Using data from the CDC and Pew Research Institute we have a more accurate number. The data shows that nonWhites are counted as White even though they don’t share the same genetic origin. There is three groups counted as White when they are not. People from the Middle East, 2.1%, people of Jewish origin, 2.3%, and biracial newborns from a White mother, 4.62% (Ref 3-5). Using this data the White alone, nonHispanic origin US population is 181,656,036, which is 54.7% of the population.

        US Whites in 2050:
        The median age for Whites is 44.9. By 2030, all baby boomers will be older than age 65 (Ref 6). At this point there will be drastic changes in demographics. The White population will start to plummet. Birth rate for Whites is 10.7 (Ref 7). Using the CDC births and mortality data we see the reality of the demographics change in 2050 (Ref 8). By 2050, the US White population will be 94,182,573 with no end in sight. Because of the situation we are in this will continue to dive until we are at fraction to what we are now. In other White countries they are also expected to have drastic changes in demographics as well (Ref 9).”

        Because of the absolute state we are in the national stage only serves as a platform. If you don’t understand this then get with the program.

        • The sad part of it all is, when I am in my 60s the young whites (what’s left of them) will want to blame us for allowing them to become a minority. They’ll never know the struggle we have/are going through to stop this. They will be completely disconnected from European heritage history. Then, they’ll ask us why.

      • Yes…..

        Gun Rights are pretty much the only reason left to Vote Republican…….

        But, even Democrats like Manchin support Gun Rights……

        I’m not sure what the Point of Voting Republican is anymore………

        If there are Strong Immigration Control Republicans in your District……..

        Then, Good for You……..

        My State is Full of Republicucks……

        They Sense the Shifting Demographics and Cuck at every chance possible……

      • “free speech, internet freedom, and gun rights.”

        Trump has already said that the first is not under threat. There is no hope that he will act on the second unless Twitter bans him. And he is a proven enemy of the latter.

    • Where I live and where I work I’m already a Minority……..

      You just have to be a Fighter every Day……

      “One more Time into the Fray………”

      Every Single Day…….

  • The mass revolt against post-1965 nonwhite LEGAL immigration policy will commence when millions of WORKING CLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICANS wake up every morning experiencing level 10 on the Richter scale of stark raving fear….we are not at this point yet…

    At the moment, our People are transitioning out of the cognitive dissonance stage…..

    Gut level NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN RACIAL TRIBALISM is all that matters….no need to talk about the finer points of IQ test score psychometrics……They weren’t talking about the finer points of IQ test score psychometrics when the 1888 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT WAS PASSED…

    • Unfortunately, South African whites willingly turned over rule of their country to non-whites, and it appears that American liberal whites will likely do the same.

  • MSNBC, CNN, HuffPost and many other Liberal News Sites……

    Actively support Antifa…….

    Even Marco Rubio and Mitt Romney apathetically Submit……..

    Newsweek, Vox, and HuffPost actually employ people who are Antifa…….

    Lindsey Graham, Jeff Flake, Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio attack Breitbart………

    CPAC denounces TheGatewayPundit.com………

    The Left is Fully Unified against the Right……..

    The Right is in Disarray………

    As is the AltRight……….

    Somebody is Laughing somewhere………..

  • This discussion ends rather abruptly. Needs an outro so I don’t check my phone thinking something went wrong.

  • President Trump will try to manipulate the News Cycle by Tweeting to make us all forget about he COMPLETELY betrayed his Base……

    The Game is Old and Stale……

    The GOP will hopefully be Voted Out come November……….

    And President Trump will learn about the True Ontology of POWER……….

    You DO NOT Betray your People……….

    The Umbrella AltRight should take Notes…………

  • President Trump just signed the Omnibus……..

    Even though his Entire Base told him to Veto it………..

    MAGA is Officially Over…..

    That’s OK…….

    The AltRight Lives On……….

    If the Birth of the AltRight was all we gained from the Election of Donald J. Trump…….

    Then, it was Worth It…….

    All Factions of this Movement…………

    Thank you for all your Blood Spilled and Energy Poured……

    It’s Fertilized Future Flowerings………

    100% FACT…….

  • Not one Chinese…Hindu……Sihk…Phillipino…..Korean….LEGAL IMMIGRANT should have been allowed into America after the passage of THE 1888 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT…

    The Asian LEGAL IMMIGRANT TSUNAMI in 2018 would not have been possible if the Asian FIFTH COLUMN had not been allowed in during the 1960s and 1970s…the Asian Fifth Column was allowed to establish a beachead…and go over the sea-wall into ownership of the US CONGRESS….

  • With the Appointment of John Bolton as NSA Head…..

    It’s obvious that President Trump isn’t a Serious Man……….

    He’s trying to Survive…….

    His 100% European Daughter with Top European Genetics……

    Married a Rich Jew to maintain her Social Status/Privilege and Converted to Judaism……….

    Then, even while Ripe and Young…….

    Proceeded to get Plastic Surgery (altering her natural European Beauty) to look more Urban Jewish to fit in with her new Social Caste……

    She’s a Trusted White House Adviser along with Kushner……..

    These are the Trumps……

    We all new this Instinctively from the Beginning……..

    But, we’re White and we always Hope beyond Hope……..

    President Trump doesn’t really have any Solid Principles besides Winning and Making a Profit…….

    He’s under attack from ALL CORNERS……….

    And he understands how Things Work……..

    Which is why he goes where the Money, Power, and Protection is……..

    JEWS…….

    Impeach??…………

    Whatever……..

    • And the Trump MAGA fanatics such as Ricky Vaughan and Mcfeels would have us believe that Trump’s policy of threatening Christian Russia which could with very high probability ignite nuclear war is an example of Trump’s genius hyperdimensional chess game…

  • For those of you that aren’t aware, Richard has been YouTube interviewing/debating like a madman. Nearly NINE HOURS total of new content in the last 2-3 days. Here are the MP3 versions for those of you who, like myself, find it nearly impossible to find the time to sit down and watch a 1-3hour video (although, I must say, Richard is looking fantastic nowadays (no homo)). At any rate, these conversions took me quite a long time to put together – I really hope the admins don’t mind me posting these links here.

    3-HOUR Interview with Luke Ford: <-highly recommended
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/e177jr11v72r3cb/RS_Long_Interview_with_L_Ford.mp3

    Richard Spencer Joins Chuck Morse:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/z2f5ivej7eze7ko/RS_joins_C_Morse.mp3

    Richard debates Adam Kokesh:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/gw4e0u6b82gkcbc/RS_vs_A_Kokesh.mp3

    Richard debates H.A. Goodman:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/nacb7a3x9ljp3qt/RS_vs_HA_Goodman.mp3

    Full speech at MSU (March 5th, 2018 – just in case you missed it):
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/za3qljv83xsq1b2/RS_at_MSU_Full.mp3

    • As someone who listens on long car rides, your comments always save me a lot of time. Thanks for the mp3’s.

    • Yes, I noticed stepped up debating/podcasting by Richard. I think he is genuinely concerned the AltRight could collapse, and trying to provide more content to draw people back. Also worth noting is that although Identity Evropa seems right on the optics debate, they are not the intellectual centre of the movement. Patrick Casey’s videos for Red Ice are nearly all shorter than 5 minutes, and although his recent conference went well, it was rather anodyne in terms of content. His short speech said nothing much. I am in England – and we need an IE here – and admire Patrick, but the wider AltRight must realise they can’t do without Richard Spencer, Greg Conte and Don Camillo. The one-hour Alt Right politics over the weekend, and the 2-3 hours bloodsports and debates Richard engages in are a much deeper intellectual contribution than anything Casey is able to offer in that regard. Now Casey is doing something good too – but they are all needed.

      • I posted a link to it several days ago. That interview was actually released on the 19th. Here it is again for those that missed it:
        http://www.mediafire.com/file/gqoh2y218o6n5t4/RS_Interviewed_By_Itai_Anghel.mp3

        The AltRight is not in any danger of collapsing, not even close. It’s far too big and decentralized – and its leaders and adherents are far too devoted – for the AltRight to ever just collapse. It’s definitely going through some growing pains at the moment, and Richard is very honest about that. He discusses all of it in his interview with Luke Ford. To my mind the next step forward is putting together a large, ruthless legal team to represent the basic rights and interests of the Altright and its members.

        • Yep and that will require cash infusions because we need goy lawyers who can be as ruthless as any jew.
          I’m waiting for some real AR sons of bitches to step up and start cracking skulls over the legal irregularities that the enemy has managed to secure.
          The law is still a potent weapon.
          We need to use it like a big club.

        • I just tried to listen. I couldn’t believe that this guy could be that naive. Then he said “I’m a Jew” and it all made sense. I stopped listening at “spiritually separate.”

          If he believes in universalism, why is he still a Jew?

  • Also, the owners of this site should increase moderation to discourage spammers and people posting nudity or lewd material.

    • Some block my comments when I’ve donated hundreds…..

      And allow AntFags to comment undisturbed…….

      Whatever…….

      I Fight On……..

      • You like to brag about how much you’ve supposedly donated………………………….yet you don’t have a ‘Plus Member’ or ‘Member’ badge besides your name?? I CALL BULLSHIT. You need to banned as well. Occasionally you make some good points, but mostly you’re just an embarrassment.

        • So, I’m lying about donating what I’ve donated because I just post comments instead of logging in as a Plus Member??

          Ha!

          And you would ban me because I don’t log in as Plus Member and you don’t support all my posts??

          Ha!!

          What are you like 14??

          Transitioning with Estrogen Injections??

          Or you’re from Fluffy Fake Soylent White Suburbia where displaying Signs of Social Status on everything you own is your Prime Purpose in Life………

          Ha!!!!

          • LMFAO, it comes as no surprise that you’ve missed the entire point of what I said, you crazy ol’ crackhead!! I don’t give a damn about social status or signs thereof. Even if you were a Plus Member, I’d still have you banned. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY IS WORTH HAVING YOU SPAM, HARASS, AND WEIRD OUT ANYONE WHO VISITS THIS SITE AND READS THE COMMENT SECTIONS. You are ruining this site’s comments sections. You need to be put back into your straight jacket and put back into the mental institution you escaped from. You’ve had your fun. Now it’s time to go back.

            HAHAAA!!!!!

            To clarify the obvious, my point was that if you truly had donated so much, you’d probably be at least a Plus Member. It doesn’t make sense you’d have multiple accounts. Either way, nobody believes that you’ve given a single cent to this site. And of course you’re unwilling and unable to provide any evidence to the contrary, because you’re lying. LIAR LIAR (filthy & raggedy) PANTS ON FIRE!!

            Rofl!!

            Well I’ve wasted enough time on a crazy, crack-addicted tranny. Arguing with an idiot proves there are two, and you “Ma’am” are a genuine idiot. Enjoy your Saturday (which I’m sure you’ll spend alone, smoking piles of crack, and spamming on this website). Thanks for the laughs and fare thee well, loser.

            HAAAA!!

  • Those things may be able to change a few minds by acting as symbols but we all know all programs initiated by Trump will be zealously rolled back once America becomes a defacto one-party globalist state in 4-8 years thanks to demographics. In the end whether they build a wall or not is irrelevant, the next democratic presidency will just bulldoze it all down. The altright should get ahead of the curve and abandon activism aimed at the federal structure in favor of individual states. If our goal is an ethnostate we’re far more likely to achieve that by seceding when the US enters a period of instability than by trying to hold the whole rotten thing together.

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