Chris and Evan are joined by PhilsophiCat and D’Marcus Leibowitz to litigate the activity of women in the Alt Right.
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339 Comments on "The Transatlantic Pact — Ep 5: The Woman Question"
PhilosophiCat does much better with her scripted Youtube channel videos.
But, that’s why I like free speech. In the heat of discussion, her true nature is revealed. And so, I’m able to contemplate what appears to me, to be a dominator-feminist, virtue signaling brow-beater. How men kept their cool must come from years of experience.
And, that’s another good reason for me to support the 1st Amendment.
We catlady nationalism nao!
Regarding the strategy of bringing on people like philosophicat, I find it difficult to figure out the strategy here. What’s the benefit? She sounds like a typical shrill, harpy, hysterical cat lady. This is NOT going to win over any new men.
“Feminism: advocating social, political, legal, and economic rights for women equal to those of men.”
There is nothing wrong with women and men advocating for the rights of women. there is no need to be ashamed of being called a feminist.
My cat’s not a philospher (that I know of) but she hates jews, and that’s enough.
Everything PhilosophiCat says is a demonstration of why women should not take on a public persona or be taken seriously as leaders of our movement. Everything that comes out of her mouth is ‘what’s good for the sisterhood’.
We’re not doing this anymore. We are going to have lots of different people reaching out to different groups of White people and articulating why it is in their interests to join us. If that is not to be under the Alt-Right brand, so be it.
A deep analysis of gender differences is too complex and too difficult to substantiate to bear discussion in this kind of forum or, indeed, to direct action on the ground. Instead, a return to the tied and true patterns of the past is the simplest and most reliable way to move in the present.
Philosi_cat is, in my view, is absolutely right about one thing(based on my own personal experience) the “troll army” is not going to contribute to broadening the movement. I have often looked into a forum only to drop it like a hot potato when I have read enough repetitive garbage. What is strange though is that her strong stand on the need for standards seems to run counter to her defense of Loren Southern who has been accused of not having standards. The bottom line is that a strong, CONSISTENT value system is FUNDAMENTAL to any successful movement.
That is a fair point regarding Tara.
Or they do it just because your presentation foams at the mouth with ego, entitlement, bitterness, and a detachment from our stated goals. We are about the race and the culture. Try to keep up.
Wife With A Purpose is where the AltRight women should be looking. They should be building their own cells and collaborating to relearn the noble art of motherhood and only as a secondary activity, spread the gospel of feminity over feminism to a female audience.
If God doesn’t gift them with children, there are plenty of motherless white children who can be cared for.
I love Ayla. In my opinion, she is the most exemplary woman in this movement. Philosophicat will appeal to a whole different set of women, very high value targets at that. She has every right to do that. If online trolls calling themselves “pro-White” make it a priority to shut her down rather than going after anti-Whites, they will have shown themselves.
I literally have been trying to say that better myself and could not.
“You so badly want their attention and approval.”
This is such a hilarious example of projection it’s hard to know what to say. Unlike you, I spend ZERO time interacting with pretty “trad thots” on social media. YOU do that, your “thot patrollers” do that.
I have no social media accounts, cockbreath. Why? Because I live IRL.
He said from his keyboard on a social mediaesque account.
A GUEST comment board. You are officially my number one enemy on this site, even more so than niggers and Jews. Nothing more contemptible than the sly lurker role you are playing.
I really hope you mean me. I can’t tell anymore because the site has stopped stacking comments where I can follow them easily.
That is not believable, you post a gazillion comments and make the impression of being totally obsessed. And you do this on a topic that is really mostly concerned with an online community. If your identity was offline and local then it is hard to see why this question is so important as to make you post thousands of comments on it.
Might I recommend therapy for severe sexual addiction? I believe you have a problem. Everything you say revolves around getting sex or not getting sex. The context doesn’t even seem to matter. I can only imagine what it must be like taking your order for breakfast at McDonald’s every morning.
Anglin uses the word “THOT” to draw attention to the degeneracy of the Current Year and how women (and men) have fallen prey to it.
Its called “The Daily Stormer” not “The Daily Trad-Dad Lesons of fatherly Wisdom”. We need Stormtroopers. There is a heavy male surplus within the western demographics and always a lack of females. If one is a female and claims to be trad, there is not much excuse not starting a family.
This is what stormtroopers did, they went out and harassed others. Today you can do it online instead of bashing in shopwindows. What good is social media if not for harassing the enemy.
And for the raping part, i just don’t give a shit.
Simple question… are Anglin and his cronies a productive force for pro-whites?
Is hating innocent white women a rational and positive strategy for making AR/white nationalism more popular and mainstream?
The hatred is out of proportion, full of lies, and harms innocent people. It is cultish in its character.
To answer your simple question: Yes.
I wasn’t won over by Radix or the Neo-Reactionary, snobbish Intellectualism about how i should feel solidarity with every sorry drag of humanity because hes white, i was over by the force that effectivly attacks the people i hate.
The fact of the matter is that people are attracted by different things. Anglin appeals to certain people and intellectuals appeal to others. Both are essential components for our movement to grow.
Praise the Lord Hallelujah. Everyone in need this movement has not lost their minds after all. As Greg put it in his hangout with Woes, we need all sorts of Apostles to go forth and preach to the Nations.
Dude, your raison d’être seems to be ‘THOT’. I myself am first and foremost a ‘grammar Nazi.’ What bothers me the most are the abbreviations people automatically make for names and such. I also hate these oversimplified dichotomies like ‘alpha’ and ‘beta’ because there isn’t enough nuance.
But I got over it because it is just shorthand. We are in a cultural war. Hitler loathed smokers and promiscuity, yet nearly the entire Wehrmacht smoked and engaged in promiscuity, but he tolerated it. Why? -because they were too busy getting blown to bits to be overly concerned with his petty annoyances.
(((Ecclesiastes 3)))
I like the cut of your jib.
Mike Enoch *is* fully European and not Jewish at all. He released his 23andMe on TRS.
These women just need to stop whining and develop a thicker skin. If they fold so easily they were never good soldiers, to begin with.
How many bitches listen to woman degrading rap music.
A lot of things are okay in the “real world” It isn’t the metric by which a person should judge the value of anything.
There will always be necessary coalitions. The Third Reich was one such coalition between monarchists (conservatives) and NSDAP (National Socialists).
Yea but then you are talking about a certain political regime. I think you, if you want to succeed, should take Israel or Japan as an example. Everybody there is racist, no matter if they are left or right, gay or straight, thot or hausefrau. You need broad support to keep your country white. Everybody needs to be loyal to their race and culture.
PhilosophiCat is a notorious complainer. Her videoes are unwatchable.
Bless PhilosophiCat’s heart, she sounds like a genuinely good person I feel bad for her. Unfortunately this scene is a brutal, cold, but necessary environment.
She’s too emotional. Q3zrU
My problem with all of this is that- and I have seen this before with the whole gay question thing- you can not decide who should be permitted to advocate for whites and who is not. Everybody, male or female, gay or straight, is free to contribute to the cause. The whole MGTOW movement is something seperate from white nationalism. As is Christian conservatism. You can have discussions about relationships and thots and everything but that has nothing to do with this.
“You can have discussions about relationships and thots and everything but that has nothing to do with this.” – Literally every major figure in the movement that has written an article about the pillars of the Alt-Right has included anti-feminism and traditional gender roles. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
On the contrary, John does know what he’s talking about: white nationalism. In Europe, identitarianism. Alt-right, as I understand it, is a different and considerably broader category…and, accordingly, a much more radical one.
Men and women will learn to respect each other again, when they EARN such respect. The (((left)) is delighted that we are at each other’s throats. Focus on your own behavior. Set a good example.
No, women should not join a serious movement. But the “AR” is at best a subculture.
The Alt-Right seeks to be a mainstream movement, not a WN 1.0-style subculture. That’s the whole point.
Pretty much this
Except that many of us already have White babies, whom I guess you MGTOW freaks think we don’t care about. It’s curious. Mainstream society hates White women because they know we love our children. Racially conscious White men hate us because they think we don’t love out children.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/31/having-white-nuclear-family-promotes-white-supremacy-says-new-york-professor-report-says.html
The sensible happy hausfraus of this movement were perfectly happy to peacefully coexist with you MGTOW man Let’s while you worked through your anger issues. But you crossed the line attacking Tara McCarthy. She never countersignal led or complained about you. She just ignored you, and once even helped Andrew Anglin by having him on her show to help raise awareness about the situation with his site, showing courage where many men did not. She could have lost her channel for that.
She whined like a baby when her feelings were hurt. She needs to develop a thicker skin if she wants to be of any use. Women can’t threaten to run off when their feelings are hurt. You did the same thing on the trs forum. As soon as your feelings were hurt you rage quit.
I did not “rage quit”. I enjoyed a lot of the conversations we had, but in the end I just got tired of the abuse. There was no clear guidance on whether women were or were not welcome. I do not wish to be where I’m not wanted. Besides, you know I’m a Mom so I don’t have that kind of time for posting.
I said what I had to say. Fat lot of good it did.
BTW, any sign of GhettoJane? You know I think you are going to be a great husband some day 😉
You did rage quit. People weren’t agreeing with you so you left. You’re proving my point here. You’re playing the victim, just like Philosofat and McCarthy do.
“BTW, any sign of GhettoJane? You know I think you are going to be a great husband some day”
I don’t know if you’re trying to subtly imply I’m some mgtow loser here. I’ve been with the same woman for 17 years.
For the last fucking time, woman, your children are grown. You are not ‘being a mom’ anymore and you know it. Quit living in the past. You had two kids. WOW, congrats. That’s below your own replacement level. Most of us will not have the opportunity to have children because of your sexual ‘liberation.’ These women are not worth being made into ‘honest’ women. It is not even possible anymore. They have been lost to feminism.
Hi Weimar, are you talks to me? I thought we were supposed to be having a Christmas Truce. Anyway, for heaven’s sake I have more than two children, and the youngest is still in diapers.
Do try to keep up.
Spoiler: Older women are supposed to be helping to keep the thots in line, curtailing their anti-civilization behaviors, not enabling them
Maybe when we win, I’ll worry about patrolling “thots.” For now, it’s just not a priority, and it shouldn’t be yours either.
We may not win without you ladies pitching in to turn whores into housewives. Better yet, make sure they never become whores in the first place. I really wish the good ones would wear uniforms so we can tell you apart from the others. It would make things much simpler.
By the way, I fear that our leaders are being pressured to countersignal women to head off criticism from the Devlinites. This is of course the exact opposite of what they should be doing. In fact, if anything, I think they should be playing good cop, and the Devlinites should play along.
I never watched any of these YouTube women. You said, “If I had said what I thought, I would have been quickly shut down for violating the norms of the times we live in.” That’s what some guys are trying to get through to you; there is so much work to be done on the woman front. Wouldn’t it be great if other women took the initiative?
What exactly do you want me to do? I’m not trying to be nasty. You have to be specific.
The comment stack has gotten terrible so I have no clue if this was directed towards me or not. I want you to keep doing what you are doing. If you find time to convert younger women to the truth, go for it. If you are able to help your sons choose good, honorable, and submissive women, good. Work on your husband’s heart. Bring him into the fold if you are able.
Anger, hate, rancor is what drives men; with every passing year Bing Crosby’s Christmas songs lose their meaning, because wholesomeness is anathema to our enemies.
Very good points, but you have to remember that women’s social networks revolve around their children’s activities. Kids whose parents cause strife or disruption can and do get kicked off sports teams, out of clubs, homeschooling coops etc. It kind of has to be that way. If my children were excluded from activities they enjoy because of me getting on my high horse, I would be in big trouble with hubby.
For now, I have to do what I can within the limits of the current order. Fortunately, that is rather more than you might think.
OK fine. Well, no I’m not going to do it.
(1) It’s morally wrong.
(2) It won’t work.
(3) I don’t have the authority to do it anyway, because Mr. Lexi would not be pleased. He is in charge of me. You are not.
When seduction laws are reinstated, I’ll start shaming thots. Meanwhile, you don’t just get to selectively reinstate aspects of honor culture that are beneficial to men without also providing the protections women traditionally enjoyed.
You may be a man, but I am older and more experienced than you.
Fair enough. Do what you must.
What protections would you like? I personally am for couverture with some modifications.
Your cowardice is dreadful.
Sorry, I don’t have the right to ruin my children’s lives, especially since (1) It won’t work, and (2) There’s a better way.
How old are you?
Instagram and now Snapchat culture could occupy trad women’s time around the clock. Your target audience could be the interminable supply of women behaving themselves in the most obscene of fashions. Of course, to challenge other women’s preconceptions would be too much for the Alt-Right women.
Shame is one way to influence. There HAS to be a negative stigma towards certain things, or people will do those things en masse. Murder is a good example. Rape is another. These techniques work on men. They work on women too. Sometimes, women need consequences that hurt on a mental and spiritual level instead of just their behinds.
You’re seeing shame as a negative.
It’s not. It keep society in order. The end of shame, brought to us by our (((masters))) has almost certainly irretrievably destroyed our culture.
Not everyone is MGTOW. Don’t dismiss opinions you don’t like by insulting the people saying them.
Lexi, your contribution to the continuation of the White Race is admirable.
Please understand that every man is sick to death of women telling them what to do and trying to mislead them. Women should be focusing on women, and and men on men.
Then how about the menfolk stop attacking us?
You prove my point by circling back to the main thesis you always counter-signal: Women are for procreation. It is her magnum opus.
That said, do you consider a woman successful if she makes white children under any circumstances (out of wedlock)? Do any of the postpartum actions of a woman matter (divorce)?
So would ‘MGTOW’ ironically be aligned with your presentation if they are against participating in the feminist entrapment known as marriage, which you seem to suggest is ok to eschew as long as children are sired?
Niggers have this breeding strategy, which why they will probably outlive us.
If I could upvote this twice, I would.
women do not belong in the military, in war, and in politics. that’s just it.
if they want to they’re free to get raped by hostile aliens.
men are the patriarchs, the owners of our nations that we build and defend.
The alt right is political. But it is not politics.
RSS: http://www.spreaker.com/show/2714374/episodes/feed
Seriously, please post the rss feed every time for podcasts. This should be a standard practice.
With anyone, look at what they are selling. Some of these women are genuinely subversive – selling destructive feminist insanity, while pretending to be something else. Some of them are merely shekel-chasing camwhores. Both deserve nothing but contempt and the worst abuse we can subject them to. Stop white knighting for them, and examine your own behavior.
Some of them are fine – and should either just be left alone to do their thing, or supported.
“Some of these women are genuinely subversive -selling destructive feminist insanity, while pretending to be something else.”
Would this count as destructive feminist insanity?: “I don’t believe in ‘men’s work’ and ‘women’s work’. If there is a job that needs doing, just do it.”
No. It’s an opinion you happen to disagree with. Fine, make your case. Don’t resort to hysterical name-calling and paranoia. It’s not a good look.
For the record, here’s my view. Yes, there is such a thing as men’s work and women’s work. There are also such things as outliers, exceptions to the rule. Leave them alone. You hav more important things to do.
You don’t make up the rules for the exceptions. Women will always complain, even the outliers, because they want to be treated equal and get special treatment at the same time.
True, but then sometimes you just don’t need rules to begin with. You don’t make rules just to have rules; you make them to prohibit unhelpful behavior.
You’re not an exception to the rule nor is McCarthy, Philosofat or Southern. You all behave exactly like every other woman. Your emotions rule you.
According to the woman in the podcast it’s a stupid comment to tell women to get back in the kitchen and not get involved in politics. SHE doesn’t understand that the Suffragettes were/are feminists and anti-traditional to their core.
I’m in the kitchen much of the day. It’s my happy place, so I’m fine with that. Why do you begrudge me a woman-friendly podcast to listen to While I peel the potatoes.
I’ve stopped even listening to the Shoah, because it just hurts too much to be counter-signaled by Mike Enoch. I wish I could remember the episode, but he once spoke so tenderly about the joy of a Mother when she serves dinner and everyone gathers around to break bread and share the highlights of the day.
Does anyone know this episode? It was very brief, almost offhand.
I would have no issue with a woman-friendly podcast explicitly targeting women; it would be perfectly sensible.
They never stick to that. They always start talking about men and whining about not getting respect.
Then wouldn’t it just be better to leave us alone? Maybe save that shit for the paywall. That way, the menfolk can say what they think needs said, and women don’t have to hear it if we don’t want to.
You know, we have places where we men go to have those talks. These places are called cigar lounges. Part of the problem we are facing here is that a lot of the guys making comments openly, that belong in smoke-filled rooms, are too young to get in and buy a cigar and a good Scotch in the first place.
Whether you believe me or not I’m 27 so casting aspersions on people is a dead end at least in my case.
Ignore the spineless simp. He is playing the role of liminal fence-rider, dipping his toes where the water is warm and then removing them where it is cold. Very feminine move actually.
There (((you))) go again.
I didn’t name anyone friend. I am making a general statement that applies to the AR in general.
Frankly, it warms my heart to think that there are podcasts produced by/for white women which promote traditional values and give women tips on home-making, marriage, etc. It especially warms my heart to think that a housewife is listening to such a podcast while tending to her household and being the glue of the family.
You are sorely mistaken if you think any of us have a problem with that.
But I thought plenty of folks were saying women shouldn’t be in the Alt-Right, which would mean losing Tara’s show, so I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying.
Tara McCarthy lost me as a viewer after watching a video where went on about the vegan lifestyle and how good it is. Needless to say the comments were not good and she posted a video of animals being butchered,pffff.
It all just came across as a militant Liberal, so no longer watch her.
Just stop listening to people you disagree with. That’s good.
Why would you? Polarisation is good. The whole segregation stuff is about being with people you have things in common with. Why would i waste my time spending it with people that don’t agree with me.
That’s fine, but Tara has since countersignalled militant veganism, on the grounds that only Whites care about animals and they won’t fare well if we are destroyed, so we should focus on White survival rather than divisive tangents.
I dare say you menfolk could learn a lesson from her.
Maybe she was inspired by Uncle A? I don’t watch her anyway. Now I can’t look at Faith or Lauren’s chests without being shamed.
take responsibility for your life and you choices. blaming, creating conspiracies, wallowing in hatred, fear and frustration serves nothing and no one.
Go away, Yakub.
This should be a standalone commentary piece.
Just let them be.
Gubbler is a troll who likes to spam interracial porn in forums and comment sections.
Some beta orbiters want positive attention from women, some beta orbiters want negative attention from women. They are both beta orbiters. Hey cucks, “negging” her still isn’t going to get her to sleep with you.
If you are “trolling” women on their social media accounts, you are a thirsty beta orbiters.
Why are you hanging around girl’s social media accounts instead of the many men-only spaces online?
according to your worldview, I guess you beta orbiters who want positive attention from women by attacking other man.
That doesn’t even make any sense. Instead of attacking anti-whites, the “movement” has been hijacked by people wanting to attack pro-white women – by trolling their social media accounts like a beta orbiter. I’ve never left a single comment on the youtube account of any of these “Thots” – why would I care? Also I’m not attacking men – god you sound like a chick.
All good points. What we will do is behave like men. Like Patriarchs. We separate the sin from the sinner if you will. We correct false doctrines and we put in place the correct way. We do not destroy those who hold to false doctrines. Correction, maturation, and discipline are traits of good Patriarchal leadership. Screaming at the problem and pushing away those who need correction shows weakness, cowardice, and a lack of manliness.
Are you in favour of removing women’s privilege to vote in elections?
I wrote about it on my blog years ago.
https://hipsterracist.wordpress.com/why-women-shouldnt-vote
Acknowledging men’s authority isn’t good enough anymore Hipster. Now you’re a beta White Knight cuck if you don’t demand total silence from women. In time, that won’t be enough either. You’ll have to support marriage at twelve and FGM. These people are out of control, and they are going to destroy this movement.
That is called “betrothal” and that actually is “trad” – notice the incel trolls aren’t actually proposing that.
Indeed, I’m not sure what they’re really all about. I’ve a funny feeling they’re not so much concerned about whoring around so much as they are bent out of shape that they’re not the ones being whored around with.
I will give Devlin’s a little crrrredit. He does acknowledge that the sexual revolution was initially marketed to men, and they bought it. Now, they’ve got buyers remorse, and are taking it out on women, even Moms who’ve been married for twenty years.
Doubtless, there may be some men that are simply wanting to be like niggers “getting some” and that is purely degenerate and shows no appreciation for women.
Funny you should mention that. Not three posts above this is a little jewel from (((Weimar Republican))) asking a respectable gentleman when his last conquest was.
“The ‘Alpha Male’ doth protest too much, methinks. I’m beginning to think that you believe yourself to be the only ‘non-virgin’ man in the Alt-Right. Please, tell us when was your last conquest?”
Hey LARPing faggot, you call an anonymous internet troll a ‘respectable gentleman.’ Go fuck yourself you delusional parasite. I cannot take you seriously. You are nothing but a clueless counter-troll calling everybody feds and (((Jews))) and everything else. I have not even seen your criticize anything else, including leftism. You just want to fit in, in the worst possible way. Is that you Philosphycat?
The ‘Alpha Male’ doth protest too much, methinks. I’m beginning to think that you believe yourself to be the only ‘non-virgin’ man in the Alt-Right. Please, tell us when was your last conquest?
“when was your last conquest?”
When I married my wife. You?
Marriage is not necessarily a conquest. In fact, it is when many adventures end, well at least for the groom.
12 year olds can’t carry a healthy White child to term. White people have never had 12 year olds marrying as a common thing – you must be thinking of sub-Saharan Africa and the Muslim world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line
I’m starting to think some of the commenters here are not even White. Some sound more like Muslims and Africans.
Your statement is counter-intuitive. Can we agree that White girls menstruate at age eleven? This dictates that they can become pregnant at that age. What study has determined that White girls cannot carry a healthy child to term at age twelve/thirteen?
And even if this so, we can also agree that some White twelve year olds are sexually active at twelve, and my suggestion to use birth control implicitly addresses the health issue inherent in young teenagers bearing children.
I am going ignore the inference you drew that concluded your comment.
“In the middle ages there were few reasons the wedding could be dissolved. One reason was if either the man or woman were not of legal age, 12 for girls and 14 for boys.”
There is nothing wrong with a focus on righteousness and chastity at that age. There is nothing wrong with beginning to introduce girls to the ideas and responsibilities of marriage and childbirth at that age. A girl reaches peak fertility around 16. If a man wants to allow his daughter to marry a man at 16, that is perfectly legal and many states allow this union. Our culture needs to shift towards bringing children into functional adulthood in their midteens instead of their late 30s.
Total silence, no. Deference, yes.
No women have any reason to defer to some random dude – especially not a beta orbiter on social media. Women should defer to their husbands, before that their fathers. That is what patriarchy means. Men’s organizations should exclude women entirely – OF COURSE.
Alt Right does not give some pathetic incel virgin on the internet ANY authority over ANY women. This is a social movement, not a therapy group for loser males.
A beta orbiter will by definition defer to a random woman; the weak male orbits the woman. Not very bright are we? I agree that they should defer to their husbands or fathers, but do you not see how far we have strayed from that standard? You must be an unironic hipster.
I meant to ask you during our last discourse, does your husband travel in the same circles as you or are you alone in your ideas? I don’t think I have ever seen you speak to that.
I’m alone. He does not share my politics, but he does know it comes from a place of genuine love for Western Civilization as well as concern for our children’s future.
Obviously, when you’ve been with someone for many years, you’re not going to believe ridiculous caricatures of irrational hate-filled mouth breathers.
So what is his hold up? Is he just too tired to step into another battle? My parents are like that. It is sad, but I don’t blame them. They passed that torch to me and to those younger than me.
More like too busy. He works hard, and what energy he doesn’t devote to work, he devotes to the kids.
I was depressed to the point of immobilization for at least a year when I was first red-pilled, and I think people are just trying to protect themselves from that on some level, especially when they have as much responsibility as he does.
Yes, it can be seen as choosing between a normal life and the truth. If we do not plan for the future, we are all dead.
You are the definition of gaslight. Female genital mutilation? Are you fucking kidding me? We aren’t even Jewish yet nearly all white men in America are circumcised at birth. I’m starting to think you are truly evil.
And what are you doing right now? -White knighting as an interloper. You know you’re not gonna change the situation by counter-signaling Thot-shaming, so why do it? You just want something from these women (approval) while we don’t. They are not just useless, they are a liability. We want them gone. That’s as un-thirsty as it gets. Politics is not for dating.
I’m not White Knighting, I’m not defending a single woman – I’m attacking Beta Orbiters like you. Grow a pair and stop trolling White women. “Thot-shaming” is nothing but BEGGING women for attention and it’s as thirsty as it gets.
Also, “Thot?” What are you a nigger?
Sounds like you are.
I’m not a feminist, so I don’t see “men as a class” vs. “women as a class.” MGTOW losers are just the other side of feminists. Pointing out what losers the “thot patrollers” are is not “standing up for women” – it’s actually standing up for men by telling them to grow a pair and stop treating social media like a 14 year old girl does.
LOL who am I orbiting? Your male-shaming does not work on me, doofus. It’s been overplayed. They are overriding our movement and you are too giddy about it as if you want a matriarchy. I am not into masochism like you male feminists are. I want the white race to win the war and we cannot do that under your female monarchy you so desperately crave.
You call yourself a hipster. That is even less worthy of respect than a nigger.
Frankly, if you aren’t permabanned from most platforms, did you work hard enough last year?
I just a read an article about a toddler girls “co-ed wresting match”! Her brother mistook it for a real fight and ran to her aid. It was so saddening reading this. What are we doing to our little girls?! The AR must succeed.
At least the brother will turn out all right.
Philosophers? No.
I can’t name one, frankly.
“You all really need to be more relaxed about gender roles. They are not that fragile, and they don’t need to be rigidly enforced.” –
Where’s the lie, tho?
OK so why can’t I talk about philosophy?
So race realism, fine. Gender realism, no thank you. You don’t want to be imposed on by a man, so you fancy yourself woke while your husband is not.
So true. Yes, these women are insane. So many women aren’t unhappy now because of their meddling.
I mean are unhappy. Really, can nothing be done about this autocorrect?
Here’s the other thing. Yes, we believe in race realism, but when it comes to women, y’all constantly go on about “female nature” as though such a thing could possibly exist. White men are distinct from all other men, but when it comes to women:
We all bleed red.
There is no such thing a source race.
It’s just skin color.
You do realize this isn’t a genetic absurdity, do you not?
OMG! She is AWESOME and so right in everything she says. thank you for introducing her to me…may you find a strong, loving woman to spend your life with….you’d be so happy.
I seriously hope that was a troll, because otherwise you sound like a feminist, implying that I’m some sort of lonely, angry misogynist.
That’s all they have. You hurt my feelings so you’re but a MGTOW basement dweller or you have a small dick.
i don’t really think about feminism very much. i might be a feminist but the word means different things to different people. some people like to call women feminists in order to shame and humiliate them.
Fairly new to the Alt-Right but thank you; I for one agree and won’t counter-signal you.
I thought it was hilarious when philosofat said you shouldn’t judge people’s character.
Well said.
Here is another childless catlady with a patreon account… but this one is different cause she says the things pro-white people wanna hear.
Fuck no. This culture is sick and i don’t want degenerate parasitism because its “our” degenerate parasitism. As soon you beg for money on the internet you can go fuck yourself. These cicks are basicly just camwhores. And i still can’t wrap my head around what kind of guy would actualy give em money.
And you obviously work for free as well, assuming you work at all?
Once money gets involved, perverse incentives start cropping up.
It’s one thing if the money is to fund activism, like security fees for a college speech
It’s quite another if your job that you earn a living from is just to be a talking head on youtube.
The incentive structure dictates that you would gravitate towards opinions that are more profitable, less likely to get you banned.
This runs counter to the truth seeking spirit of shit posting.
Anonymous shitposters tend towards radical ultra-nationalism, because it is true. youtube / patreon thots do not. Because the incentives are different for them.
I agree with you all on the money bit, it can be corrupting indeed. I do not agree however, with the position that women can’t be involved in the movement. They might not be the most original thinkers, but they sure carry their weight. I’ve seen Lauren do a lot of great interviews and she’s nice person as well. Which is not unimportant if you want to broaden the movement.
Repeating stuff men wrote and said before on Youtube i don’t consider work. Some people give Richard Spencer shit for being a Trust Fund Kid, but i rather have someone who has already money creating assets for himself doing politics then someone who asks for Donation for a Youtube Videos and Micro Blogging on Social Media.
just admit you like women leading you around. You love being under their thumb. That is sadomasochism.
You made a video justifying female hypergamy. Your tone was that of an outraged, ‘oppressed’ feminist. You are like the Al Sharpton of women. We have enough infertile, incorrigible Plain Janes like you only here to vie for virile male attention, sowing division with your anti-male rhetoric. GTFO
You don’t go to a political committee to find a girl. Philosophicat, one goes to bars and cafes and the gym and classes for that.
Yeah, shes showing her approach to political movements by saying dumb shit like that. “Pussy Power” is a big corrupter. Single Women will show up and then it creates competition between the guys who should focus on working together. D’Marcus was realy dumbfounded by this attitude of hers “this is not a dating service” lol.
Then you all need to stop bitching about not being able to find a nice girl when you are actively trying to run them off.
When did i ever complain about that? And what kind of attitude is this to come with the same dating service bullshit that i just adressed? I don’t care if there is a “nice girl” who wants to play with the boys, her and our time would be wasted cheering her on doing something a guy can do better.
I hear these complaints all the time.
It doesn’t matter if a guy can do it better. If “chicks get clicks,” so be it. What matters is winning.
If you hear these complaints all the time maybee you hang around with whiny little bitches. Also industralizing a talking head culture where chicks get clicks will lead the AltRight down the same road where conservatism inc. landed. This is not winning. This is getting comfortable. And nothing gets done by being comfortable.
Good point…has anyone ever been Redpilled from the content generated by Female Alt-Right figures?
That’s a good litmus test of their effectiveness.
In my experience, very few have been redpilled by female content producers. I think some of them (Lana and Bre for example) do great work, but those that push feminist talking points or get men to take sides and create drama are more trouble then they’re worth.
I have nothing against Lana, but I just shut off when she starts speaking and patiently wait for Henrik.
Well, there is always Ann Coulter.
If you’ve gotta ask what Tradition is…you can’t afford it.
Lauren Southern provided crucial help and moral support to Millenial Woes in his hour of need, at significant risk to her own economic wellbeing. That should be the end of the matter.
Significant risk my ass. She makes six figures by getting beta orbiters to write her scripts while she gallivants across Europe and North America, crashing at guy’s houses, trying to convince men to cheat on their girlfriends with her, and making disingenuous and contradictory statements. We gain followers by trolling alt-light people. Women in the Alt-Right who stick up for her are foolish. Sticking up for Millennial Woes did nothing to harm her current e-thot profession. Get real, pal.
“We gain followers by trolling alt-light people.”
No, we gain followers to the pro-White cause by trolling anti-whites and dismantling anti-white propaganda. The best course for the “Alt Lite” is to simply ignore it. Eventually people will grow tired of “Alt Lite” and come to the full truth.
I came from the libertarian-right (Stefan Molyneux & Mises) and Styxhexenhammer666.
I like Styx. Do you think he’s hiding his power level? I wonder if he’s not actually pro-White.
If you get results by commenting on Alt-lite channels, keep it up. But then isn’t Lauren Southern helping you by bringing in viewers who will see your comments?
You can disagree without being disagreeable, can’t you. You don’t have to be a prick!
Lauren Southern is explicitly pandering to the profitable boomer con demographic by walking the line between conservatism and the Alt-Right. Boomer cons hate the “nazi” Alt-Right, but like identitarianism in Europe, because speech laws force the identitarians to hide their power level.
That strategy is very lucrative for her.
But we don’t necessarily benefit from going along with it. We need to be aggressively pushing our message, fighting to keep people moving down the radicalization conveyer belt and poaching her audience.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t poach her audience. Poach away, by all means. Ideally, viewers you guys poach would be replaced by new viewers, whom you can poach in their turn.
“You can disagree without being disagreeable, can’t you. You don’t have to be a prick!” – You might be pro-white, but you’re not alt-right. The Alt-Right makes gains because we don’t play by those rules. Nor do our enemies. Play nice and see how far it gets you in a culture war. Besides, why should we be nice to Lauren? She’s a race-mixer and a glorified-whore who has her beta-orbiters write her scripts for her. She’s a disgusting person. We need to bring shaming back.
I’m over giving a shit whether I’m this or that. If I’m not Alt-Right, so be it. You sound like a child sayin, “mine, mine, mine” about a toy he doesn’t want to share.
Hey for me it was a big factor that the AltRight trolls people that i hate not the pro-white stuff.
Lauren Southern is NOT pro-white. She’s pro-shekels.
That is exactly what concerns me. There are a lot of people here who may vanish once we have bludgeoned their enemies to death. We need people who have a vision beyond wanting to see their enemies hang on trees.
Did you watch Woes’ video?
Do you have sources for some of those home-wrecker claims? I am honestly curious. Not much shocks me anymore, but I would like to see the proof behind the accusations.
Tara isn’t part of my racial in-group though. She’s mixed race and Jewish. That will never change, no matter how much good work she may be doing.
We need to be able to express that fact in an uncompromising manner, without getting bogged down in distractions or deflecting from it.
Women’s suffrage and abolitionism were bad. As were most of the other “bored upper classs housewife” social movements
In theory women played a role in maintaining traditional society and keeping other women in line by shaming them
But it has been a long time since we had that dynamic going and people aren’t sure how to recapture it.
There is no more traditional society to maintain. You menfolk surrendered the commanding heights of our culture to the Jews and let them destroy it. Women can only shame women whose transgressions are rare and almost universally condemned.
The time now is to make a persuasive case for more traditional ways of life. Shaming only works in a context of broad cultural consensus, where of course you don’t need it anyway.
Also, if you want to talk about incentives, let’s look at welfare, but then we’re also going to have to bring back the tort of seduction and/or shotgun marriages.
MGTOW thinks anything less than placing the entire burden on women, with men walking away scot-free, is rescuing women from the consequences of their actions. ‘Twas never thus.
Women need to be bullycided into pregnancy.
On a person to person level, you are right. Asking someone you don’t know about their reproductive habits is rude.
This isn’t a person to person matter. This is the gestalt race asking women, as a whole, what they have done to make more of us all. It is precisely our business. Having 3+ children is the only way we win this thing. Any other answer is death.
I give you an example of female contribution to something i can respect; Diana West. She wrote great books because she had something important to say. No e-celeb patreon gibs. Check out the book Southern wrote. Its a piece of garbage.
Women build culture.
Women maintain traditions.
Women build community.
To name but a few. Your “real value social proof” is simply incorrect.
Tara is not creating division. Her attackers are.
If you think Tara has said something wrong, you are free to call her out.
Her attackers were originally anonymous people in the comment section and in replies on twitter. Every major figure on the Alt-Right that doesn’t have a vagina can handle attacks from such people, as can women like Bre Faucheux and Lana Lokteff
I’ll just let Tara speak for herself: “Men in the Alt Right are going to have to decide whether they will continue to passively/actively endorse this behavior, or speak out against it. If you want more women speaking publicly about ethno nationalism, I suggest you choose the latter.”
Spare me. Everyone needs “interventions.”
Richard Spencer’s colossal fuck-up: heilgate, getting punched in the face, falling for the Charlottesville trap.
Everybody fucks up. We live and learn and come out stronger.
The idea of a female best friend was incomprehensible throughout the ages; it is incredibly insidious and will doom all of humanity, especially women.
why? YIKES…my husband and I are best friends…it’s working so far ;-)…we do have our moments though…one drawback i do want to admit is that we probably spend too much time together and we both need to find groups outside of our relationship where we can go without each other…i support the idea that both men and women need time with their own gender without interference from the other gender…i don’t believe the Alt Right is going to be able exclude women or control women though…
“…we probably spend too much time together…” in the friend zone. “It’s working so far.” The last two words (so far) tell me everything I need to know. Those words would have been absolutely alien to my grandmother. Women need to be reacquainted with the word meek.
but why do you believe married people cannot be friends?
Women subdivide men into 3 subcategories:
1. Friend – dumping ground for her toxic dilemmas, no chance to see her naked.
2. Provider – possible marriage material in her late fertility post-wall, post-promiscuity, may or may not sire her biological children despite being married.
3. Lover – think Christian Grey types. Literally nothing she will not allow him to do to her. She will abandon her kids, husband everything to have him for even a few hours when given the chance.
“…no chance to see her naked.” If you mean in a metaphoric sense then you are correct; she will not allow herself to be totally defenseless. She may of course allow you to see her literally naked, which doesn’t matter all that much in the Current Year.
no I mean literally. Like women are still principled insofar as they would not ‘deign’ themselves with somebody they consider lower than them to save their lives. That is one part I do support about ‘MGTOW’. Anytime you find yourself mired in the ‘friend-zone’ or platonic cuck shed, immediately cut off all communication with her. That puts you back in charge and she literally will beg for your attention. She still won’t ever have sex with you, but it will change the power dynamic instantly.
i’m not alt-right but i believe the US needs to stop allowing people to come here. so many diff cultures are overwhelming our ability to function and prosper. we can only take in so many people. I don’t tend to identify as a feminist. i definitely don’t believe anyone’s behavior can be controlled.
I am so sorry about these people. Please try to understand that we are trying to sort out some difficultissues and the very most extreme elements are gaining the upper hand using bullying techniques. Others of us are willing to meet people where they are in their intellectual journey towards the truth about our people and the righteousness of White self-preservation.
Ancient Athenians thought you couldn’t have an intimate friendship with women because we are too stupid, that’s why they had sex with teenage boys. You MGTOW manlets need to start being intellectually honest about the implications of your divisive poison.
“You MGTOW manlets” – You’re talking like a feminist with these kinds of insults. Just because you understand that women need restrictions doesn’t make you MGTOW. We have or want wives/kids, MGTOWs don’t.
OK Devlinites then.
Actually, never mind, I’m sticking with MGTOW. They don’t want a Wife. They want a cum dumpster and brood sow, as is made clear by the above comments indicating men and women can’t be friends. A Wife is by definition an intimate companion.
Just because men and women can’t be friends/intimate companions doesn’t mean I (can’t speak for others) “want a cum dumpster and brood sow.” I am capable of cherishing and respecting my wife (I’m not married) without being equals. It’s truly tragic that any of us (men & women) have to resort to such degenerate language: cum dumpster or cock carousel.
This is complete and total nonsense. Get back to me when you have a wife.
Something I noticed during the election was that self-described ‘homemakers’ were rabid Hillary feminists. Isn’t that something? They do nothing all day long but read BDSM torture porn and smut fiction and contemplate how to cheat on their husbands. Social media is nothing but an enabler for women to whore themselves. You can tell by their vulgarity that this is what they do all day long.
Not only female best friend, but female friend period (no pun intended). Women and man relationships are for one thing: Sex, and its the derivatives. Women will take advantage of their share of the power dynamic to accomplish her chores by using men ‘beneath’ her in status. We see this play out literally everywhere at all hours, including this thread.
Bwahahahhahaa. Pathetic feminist passive-aggressive drivel. Implying that I’m lonely or sour because I realize the obvious fact that there are a handful of women in this movement that -surprise, surprise- are causing division between men and pushing feminist talking points.
“there are bad women and good women…same goes for men” – You’re ignoring the fact that men and women each have certain character flaws that, in the aggregate, skew more towards their particular gender. Got nuance toots?
You sound like you are trying to (((psychoanalyze))) D’Marcus. Just because your “boyfriend” is a cuck doesn’t mean every man has to take his example. Take your Jewish garbage argument somewhere else.
yeah..i’m prob am doing that…it’s a habit
Women fill culture and traditions with meaning and color and make them worthwhile. For example, who in the family puts up christmas decorations? And create a christmas atmosphere? Which is what creates culture in children, these memories. Furthermore, much is made of womens lack of rationality. But this very lack is important in religion. Both sexes are vital parts of culture and tradition and community. And that is what we need.
Which cultures were built by women?
Islam? Confucianism? Christiantiy? National Socialism? Judaism? Zoroastrianism? Hinduism?
I’ve already made it clear I don’t mind if decent women participate. But I’m not going to pretend that women are spearheading this movement.
Consider christmas? Who in the family is usually the one that creates a christmas atmosphere? Who makes the effort to set up decorations? This simple creation creates the emotions and memories in children that is culture and tradition. Men are the fence, women are the garden. We can no more maintain a culture than women can guard the garden.
I would be very curious to know why she doesn’t want kids. Is she very beautiful? Many self-conscious women are anxious about losing their figures.
Also, how old is she? Sometimes this is just immaturity talking. I could probably set her straight over brunch, or at a minimum open her mind.
She mid20s.
I’d rate her a 5.9 but my friend loves her.
Yeah it might just be talk on her part. My disappointment was in his indifference.
Well I promise you I’m doing my very best to help spread the word. I always tell girls and young women that it’s always better to have children young. That way, if you want more than 2, you can have more. If you don’t, you still have time to do whatever you want. That’s my normie pitch.
Salut!
The female figure is just like a piggy bank.
And to who would you make a fuss about it? The enemy to police our behavior? A man in a leadership position to police his crowd? The same people who listen to Azzmador in the first place? I’m already practicing FGM with this Ham Sandwhich here and a Razor Blade.
The third one, which is what I thought would eventually happen anyway. Shame on you for jeopardizing this movement.
Shame on me? I’m not some little schoolboy you can mortify in front of the class for saying a bad word, i don’t care one bit what you think or how do you imagine yourself enforcing your will on feral guys on the internet. You talk this impotent shit about shame and thats exactly why the stormer crowd doesn’t want you around. Stormer has the youngest crowd on the alt right and they have enough of women patronizing them and telling them to shut the fuck up. And now they are down with female circumcision.
Except that I have never bothered the Stormer crowd once in my life. I have always thought Anglin was doing valuable work in his target market, but I don’t need Richard telling me how much women like to be raped on Alt-Right Politics. And the attack on Tara’s was uncalled-for.
Honestly, can’t we all just get along?
So an Hour ago you wanted to shame me and the stormer crowd and now you retreat back to “can’t we just get along”. Fuck that. The Sexes always had very little to do with one another in a traditional society. In many cultures the houses even have seperate wings for male and female. We can’t get along cause we don’t get along. You don’t have a right to participate simply because something exists.
What I told you is that the Stormer crowd has a role to play, but if they swallow this whole movement, then we are done. And yes, you should be shamed for what you are doing. This movement is being hijacked and redirected, to our racial peril.
I have been making the case that you are a menace to women, our roles, our relationships, and our families. Thanks for helping.
I just don’t care what you think. So don’t whine about your relationship and your families because your online life on twitter doesn’t play out so well.
Yes, we can. It’s called let us do our job and consider yourself lucky if we don’t gift you to the Muslims.
I agree that real White patriarchs would not tolerate that kind of thing, which is why I think these MGTOW give patriarchy and name.
Bitches get cosmetic surgery for her genitals all the time and a quota of FGM cases will hit those who do or would do piercings anyway. So just chill. The Law of Nature is Tooth and Claw. If some Patriarch counters FGM let see how this plays out.
men call women feminist to shame and humiliate. the word is used in their attempt to undermine and shut women’s voices and ideas down. they are afraid of smart, confident women. it’s too much for them and they have to a hit and run.
From the most basic and fundamental metric they are essentially failures.
The sad truth is that nobody cares about their careers, which are often in the most streamlined and simplistic fields. Unless a woman is a brain surgeon or true genius I am hardly impressed with their elementary school teacher, or even nurse careers, as commendable as these positions can be.
A woman’s job is first and foremost to be a woman.
What’s wrong, though, with pointing out her thottish behavior? Doing so helps her viewers take the next step and move away from needing a pretty face to give them basic-bitch civ-nat talking points and on to the Alt-Right.
I still don’t understand why you can’t just turn up on her channel and explain to her viewers why she doesn’t go far enough. If anything, aaI would think being an obnoxious bully to her would reduce your chances of pulling her viewers further right.
“If anything, I would think being an obnoxious bully to her would reduce your chances of pulling her viewers further right.” – You thought wrong, and you have a lot to learn about the Alt-Right and why it’s been more successful than past white nationalist/advocacy movements. You might not like it, but it works. Bullying/Shaming is a tactic that works. I don’t care if it’s “mean,” but I want to win, and it’s a winning formula.
you are very obviously jealous of her..after all, you have to hide your identity…which is pretty pathetic in itself. and, may i point out that you are the one who is creating drama and making a scene…do you have a male friend to scold you and drag you out of the public forum? let’s hope so…good grief
“you have to hide your identity…which is pretty pathetic in itself” – You clearly are not Alt-Right, and I doubt that you’re pro-white. Mocking anonymity is the mark of an outsider. There’s all this talk about MGTOWs and NazBols supposedly conspiring to destroy the movement, but I would say it’s far more likely that there are leftists using subversive, leftist tactics to try and cause division among our ranks. After all, you already said you consider yourself a feminist. You are not one of us.
Spending energy attacking Southern reeks of malice and jelousy and sexual frustration. She is a useful phenomenon. Leave it at that.
FUCKING ATTACK ENEMIES YOU SPERG FOOL? You are a disgrace and a coward spending energy attacking friendlies.
Furthermore, as I said, friendlies should be treated as such. Why else would anyone become a friendly? We need more people that engages in conversation with us, not less. The spergs in the movement are desperate to prevent that. They know they are awkward unattractive spergs that will only ever find acceptance in a sect. Hence, they want to keep alt right a sect.
One woman isn’t representative of the entire movement.
They are all like that, pal. Look at them closing ranks and appealing to the chivalrous nature of you. They are taking advantage of YOU. They want you to get into a barroom brawl with me so. Not only will she not have sex with you after you get a black eye ‘defending her honor’….she won’t even bail you out jail.
Its not even a feminist coup, that would take agency, its just sucking off. They just repeat stuff a man wrote or said before them and then want some gibs. This fucking patreon money is basicly a dollar bill up their tong for a trick well performet. Its fucking pathetic.
I honestly don’t think it’s fair to throw all female content producers into that same box. Lana and Bre do good work, don’t push feminism, don’t cause division, and have thick skins. This is not the case with Tara McCarthy, and frankly, after discovering some of PhilosophiCat’s tweets, it doesn’t seem to be the case with her either.
And by the way, as far as being included goes, yes that is a funny thing about humans. We crave a sense of belonging. There is nothing evil or unseemly about that. That doesn’t mean women should always be included in everything, but it’s ironic for a movement that supposedly recognizes a human being’s need to be part of something to characterize wanting to be included as some sort of character defect.
MGTOWs are cowards. And have broken minds. They can not be converted, they are refuse.
Feminism on the other hand is a mainstream ideology with humongus propaganda dollars behind it, from universities to advertisment to MSM. Meaning lots of people will just go along with it. The conversion potential from feminists is great.