Perspective

Can We All Finally Admit That Charlottesville Was A Success?

Since Charlottesville, there has been a lot of loose talk about what we should have done differently, what went wrong, what mistakes could easily have been avoided, and so on.

I would use the term “Monday Morning Quarterback” if I ever watched sportsball in my life, but “Armchair General” might be a better term.

Much of this talk is coming from so-called leaders and internet personalities who were not even present, even after they urged all their followers to attend, yet now believe they have the right to impudently criticize.

And there is a note of anxious desperation in other quarters, especially about “optics,” which is unmanly at best, and Wehrkraftzersetzung at worst.

I’m going to make a few critical points about Charlottesville and future movement activism that I want everyone to get through their heads.

I speak not only as a veteran of the movement, of both mainstream electoral politics and radical protest activism but also as a student of sales and marketing as well as a student of history.

Charlottesville, in spite of all setbacks, was a total and spectacular success.

We accomplished the most important goal of a rising movement or idea:  we captured the attention of the world.

As I’ve written before, the first step of the AIDA sales process is to get the attention.  Without attention, we will never grow.  Without attention, we will never win.  There is truly no such thing as bad publicity, for the simple reason that once you have their attention, you can convert negative feelings into positive feelings.  But if you don’t have their attention in the first place, you can’t even get started.

Getting the attention of our friends, neutrals, and above all our enemies is the prerequisite for all the steps which follow.

This is what brought the crackdown.  The attention we were winning is why our enemies finally used naked police force to shut down our basic First Amendment right to assemble, and the attention we won is why they felt it necessary to finally slam shut the iron portals of the internet.

Of all the political movements in the world, they exclusively targeted us, only six short years after the establishment press universally sang the praises of Twitter and social media, during the “Arab Spring,” as the new global force for free speech and the airing of banned and censored opinions.

We forced the President of the United States to weigh in on our side, we literally altered the course of history, and we rapidly accelerated the culture wars which must be brought to a head for our movement to win.  We must continue to brazenly provoke the enemy.  Not provoking will be easier on us, yes, but it will also get us zero media coverage and will do nothing to polarize the nation or radicalize the masses.

We must never, ever bring guns to rallies or marches. We must instead train in self-defense and martial arts. 

The War on Terrorism brought many restrictions on civil liberties and set many new precedents.  Civil libertarians on both the right and left warned how those precedents might be used to rob the rights of American citizens, but they didn’t grasp against whom those precedents would be used, and why.

During the George W. Bush era, GOP partisanship and hysteria about Muslim terrorism allowed the Jews to consolidate a massive national security apparatus, a powerful network of spies and secret police the likes of which our country has never seen.

Under Obama, this leviathan was increased and expanded, with even graver violations of basic civil liberties, without so much as a peep from the Magic Negro-worshipping hypocrites on the left.

Now the full weight of this terrifying, Orwellian machine is slowly being aimed at the Alt-Right, and it awaits only a word from a President Elizabeth Warren or Corey Booker to set the whole monstrous thing in motion against us.

Our ideas are growing in popularity.  Since Charlottesville, the vomitous overreaction of the left has set formerly apolitical workplace water coolers and lunchrooms all over white America abuzz with our talking points.  Mainstream media figures are giving a voice to our views.  Hatred of the left is building.

The system is threatened.  The one direct means it has at its disposal of crushing us once and for all is the “anti-terrorism” terror apparatus which was meticulously constructed by the Neocohens for just such an eventuality as our movement.

So we must now and always swear off any use of armed force as the one thing which will bring this monstrosity down on us.  There must be zero tolerance on this point.

Anyone who brings a gun to an Alt Right rally, who is not a member of trained and designated security personnel, must in future be treated as an enemy infiltrator or agent provocateur.  They are endangering not only themselves, but all of their comrades, and the cause for which they fight.

But we must, on the other hand, all get trained in coordinated street action and physical strength, so that we can resist the assaults of the enemy and so we are hardened inside and out.

No leader is too important to not occasionally risk his person. 

Courage and the will to sacrifice, not a big brain on the internet, is the mark of the true leader.

Of course, not everyone is going to be a street fighter.

Of course, we need to be smart and not take stupid risks.

Of course, we need to protect our leading men and not allow them to become the easy targets of mob violence.

But anyone who thinks himself too important of a brain not to stand shoulder to shoulder with his comrades when they are mobilizing for the most critical fight of their lives has lost his right to criticize along with his mantle of leadership.

He can be a commentator, an entertainer, or a pundit.  But he must not be considered a leader.  I do not need to expand on this point.

We must have a real political vehicle. 

There is a lot of confusion about “activism” in our camp, what its purpose is, and what it means.

We have a lot of 501(c)(3) groups, “educational” organizations which are by law expressly forbidden from participating in politics, but very few 527s.  This has to change.

We need to take our message into our communities, door to door.  All politics is local.  A movement not grounded in actual neighborhoods, families, and communities is not a real movement, it’s something like a music band subculture.

We need to be able to take advantage of the myriad laws and protections against voter intimidation and coercion of political activity.

This doesn’t mean we are simply going to vote our way into power.  But it is an angle of attack, a vulnerable exposed flank of the enemy, which is presently wide open.  It is one of the most powerful platforms, and it must be developed so that in future we can hold our events and speeches not merely as protests or stunts intended to shock, but as exercises of our basic political voting rights.

We need to shock and provoke, yes, but also build the political base.

We can no longer continue to cede right-wing electioneering to various shades of establishment cucks and boomer patriotards.  We need direct contact with the people, through which we can hone our message and build a base of our support.

This will be difficult, but it must be done.  Every area where the enemy is forced to fight us, weakens their overall position and wears them down.

In place of civil disobedience, we must have iron discipline.

We are never going to make it in this struggle by playing Gandhi.

I say this as one who pushed back against the police wall at Charlottesville, got maced, and was prepared to be arrested.

Watching the aftermath, I realized the hysterical masses of brainwashed lemmings on social media would have cheered our destruction even if the police had opened fire and murdered us all in cold blood.

The people worship strength and despise weakness, and they are not going to hand us the keys of power out of pity by watching us be crushed by the police state.

When confronted with leftists and Antifa, we must always hold our ground.  And we did, at Charlottesville.  But when it comes to confronting the police, we must scrupulously comply with the law, even if it offends us.

That takes discipline, much more discipline than we’ve been able to muster at this point.  Our men need to learn to march and to follow orders.  We need to get the honored military vets in our ranks to teach the rest of us to hold a formation and operate in units.

But when provoked by the government, we must never take the bait.

While campaigning in early 1932, a highly successful European right-wing politician was once set to speak before a throng of thousands at the Sportspalast in Berlin.  At the last moment, the police ordered the meeting closed.  The politician, who a year later would become one of the most powerful members of the new government, that night proudly wrote in his diary:

“The crowd was seething with fanaticism….  The audience, 15,000 strong, stormed and raged.  It was a crisis any moment of which might have issued in tragedy.  But we managed to master it.  No amount of provocation was going to get the better of us.  In twenty minutes the hall was empty.”

  • Triuwida

    C-ville was a success and we handed Trump an opportunity on a golden platter to show the world just how dishonest are this government and its media outlets.

    In return he showed us that he’s not really interested in doing that. Not when it really matters.

    Breaking that bond of trust between the alt-Right and our once-GL God Emporer was just one of the many good things to come out of C-ville.

    • – TheFinn –

      Yeah that was a good thing to break imo also. Too many pro-Trumpers who didn’t quite get it.

    • Melinda Santa Cruz

      He’s afraid.

  • Brulard

    C’ville clearly was a huge win! The Alt-Right oppended the eyes of millions of normies on that day. Americas first A. officially did die on that day for the whole world to see. It was a metapolitical earthquake to see this well planed set up and, of course, the internet-purge afterwards. (((The totalitarian-bolshevistic left-wing regime))) of america got ripped of it’s pseudo-democratic mask by the Alt-Right!

    Even the most uninterested normie could see that ZOG IS REAL after C’ville!

    • Pioneer American

      Man, that’s self-delusion. Most ‘normies’ are going to just let the media version slide down their throats unchewed: ‘violent’, ‘someone died’, ‘it was the right’s fault’.

      The only thing the media couldn’t neutralize (imo) was the torch-lit march the night before, if they showed it. Normal, young white guys. Of course they got to feeling their oats and started chanting about Jews, but, the /image/ I think is worth something.

      • Dillon Francis

        I concur. Average normie is too stupid to think for herself.

  • WHAT

    That certainly wasn`t a loss, considering the unstoppable shitstorm it brought. Antifags, kneegroes, the list goes on.

  • There never was any doubt.
    The fact that (((they))) were shutting down Alt-Right websites, social media accounts, and video streaming services is proof of that. They even arrested Chris Cantwell who is basically one of the more moderates among us.
    These were negative effects, I know… but they show the level of “Oy Vey”-ing with all these “Goyim-Knowing” to the point that Normies are noticing and beginning to ask questions.

    • jaye ellis

      “They even arrested Chris Cantwell who is basically one of the more moderates among us.”

      I respond:

      Yes, that was unfair, but not really unexpected. Chris Cantwell made many personal mistakes that led to him being arrested/persecuted. These are mistakes that we all must work to avoid:

      Chris did a really stupid thing – inviting an anti White, Leftist media group to follow him around, tape long amounts of video, got him to displace lots of scaring looking guns (sure legal, but still very scary). When you do this and let the enemy edit showing the worst, most damaging segments – they’re going to make you/us look extremely bad, look like the bad guys from a typical Hollywood script.

      Chris Cantwell was doing way too much “butt showing” – when what is needed in these demos is disciplined, anonymous demo.

      After the demo he should have just disappeared – made the system find him, not offer himself up for more publicity.

      None of the Antifa Left got arrested or persecuted because

      A) the State and Locals and media supported them
      B) Those on the ground were pretty much anonymous

      Our people need to be more this way – dress in respectable, uniform, anonymous ways – if there are 100 of us in polos and khakis and some Antifa says one guy sprayed them with bear mace – it’s going to be difficult persecuting the one guy that might have done this.

      We’ve all been taught over and over again:

      “Don’t talk to the police.” Instead use this:

      “I have nothing to say”.

      But, we also need to stress this:

      Do not talk to the anti White left media, Neo Conservative media especially in any taped, edited format. You can’t win and you, we can really lose.

      We have now some talented spokesmen like Richard Spencer – but even with Mr. Spencer I advise him and his handlers never to do taped interviews or Jerrry Springer, Maury type shout fests. We have to control the message.

      I did see lots of good video from our side in Charlottesville VA. But no one seems to have taken the time to edit some best ever presentation of what happened from our side, with music, historical references, Ken Burns type filmography.

      Yeah, study Triumph of the Will, Birth of a Nation or propaganda from the other side “Harvest of Shame”.

      Our message has to be short, to the point, reach hearts and minds – yes, always tell the truth but do so in effective propaganda ways. Propaganda is both an art and a science. I would like to teach interested young people the art and science of propaganda.

      • Pioneer American

        > Spencer not talking to the media
        I disagree – he manages to make it work. He’s mentioned striving not to say anything that could be sound-bitten into something negative.

    • Captain John Charity Spring MA

      Cantwell asked for it.

      But he’s playing the Martyr very nicely.

      Good for him.

  • jaye ellis

    Yes, I pretty much agree with everything here except this:

    “There is truly no such thing as bad publicity, for the simple reason that once you have their attention, you can convert negative feelings into positive feelings.”

    I respond:

    That’s just ridiculous nonsense. If the Alt Right gets bad publicity like 1970s White Nationalists in Still holding out White Southwest Side Chicago were led by a NAZI who was in fact a Jewish homosexual pedophile – OK, that kind of bad publicity can not be turned in to positive feelings.

    Nor is the publicity of drunk old White Nationalists seemingly reading out of a bad Hollywood scripts – invading the US Holocaust Museum – shooting up and killing some minimum wage Black security guards. Another real bad publicity that didn’t go our way was when another old White American racist leader invaded a Jewish retirement medical center and killed some White Christians old and young.

    Nothing good and lots of bad things come about by doing really stupid, counter productive, cowardly acts that bring us bad publicity.

    Bad publicity that confirms the controlled media that Alt Right, White race realists are mostly all crazy, dysfunctional loners, losers, haters – no tat doesn’t can turned in to something positive.

    As for Hitler – we investing some major $s in to producing a high end Farstar illustrated graphic novel type book the Best of Mein Kampf in ~ 50 page concise presentation. Hitler was a genius who understood the common man and also the great institutions of a great people. Before the invasions of Poland and the Soviet union pretty much everything Hitler and the National Socialists did – worked. These policies and ways of thinking and acting can work for us now in our unique American, North American, Southern ways.

    We have a text only version available for $12 postage and handling included contact us at:

    [email protected]

    • Pioneer American

      How about the full, graphic version? Now I’m envisioning the book being just Hitler in lots of different poses, with big speech bubbles 🙂

      oh: “we investing” — it’s not done yet, got it.

      • jaye ellis

        Yes, we are investing some major $s in marketing a high quality graphic novel type book, illustrated by the very talented artist Farstar. We published this text only book to get it in the hands of serious readers – things like typos, feed back on omissions and editions. We/I haven’t written the introduction yet, though have some versions on various blogs.

        We want to market this book as a serious, $ for profit book in places like Japan and India where AH NS things sell very well.

        MK is the second highest best selling book in many countries in the west since 1945 after the Christian bible. We think this ~ 50 page best of MK version should be very popular as many people aren’t in to reading long books and want some straight to the point “thought for the day” book.

        It’s important to understand that AH’s version of socialism in a National Socialism included talented individuals making $ profits out of their personal work. AH made enough from his best selling book MK to buy a Mercedes Convertible automobile. He owned the car and it probably was one of the reasons he landed such a fun, good looking girlfriend Eva Braun.

        We want our young men coming in to Alt Right to be successful in the jobs and land attractive, sexy girlfriends and wives – I’m in the market for wife #2.

        Our text only book best of MK is available for $12 domestic postage and handling included contact us at:

        [email protected]

    • That was a crazy infomercial.

  • Crud Bonemeal

    Cville was absolutely a huge success, but the Alt-Right could have done more to capitalize on it by putting the pedal to the floor afterwords, rather than backing off or getting intimidated.

    Of course, Spencer has been more active than most, so that’s not specifically a criticism of him.

  • Dragdar
  • genocidal_maniac

    Actually, Richard Spencer is indispensable. No one really has his combination of intellect, charisma, and bravery.

  • Johnny Fascismo

    I wouldn’t call C-Ville a success. Still, it pushed the left into a temper tantrum of epic proportions which is always a good thing. It got Trump to finally acknowledge left wing violence. And it brought a lot of attention to our cause. Now that the initial shock of the whole thing is starting to be pushed into the background, the positives are starting to arise.

    • Pioneer American

      Right. It had good effects, but they were unintended. (Except for the march the night before.)

  • MBNM

    It was glorious in terms of aesthetics. Hundreds of intelligent, well-groomed young men taking a stand against degeneracy, thereby dispelling the myth of the old fat bitter redneck (who from my experience are all liberal). It’s sure to have opened the eyes of many, especially in the younger generations. The dishonest stuff that happened there and the MSM propaganda would have made anyone with the will to search the internet for facts catch on to ‘our struggle’ and the nature of the opposition.

    • Captain John Charity Spring MA

      It was Alt-Right 3-0 Antifapolice

    • Fausto

      Normies dont do research- otherwise they wouldnt be normies.

      Even as a demonstration of real world power and organisation it was a clusterfuck. Take a look at Nordfront next time. They present a well groomed, respectable look. Charlottesville with everyone decked out in combat gear with 6 gorrillion different symbols and outfits… not so much

  • Mike Smith

    I can’t believe how out of touch and delusional this is.

    • TVMA

      It’s downright insane isn’t it??
      That clusterfuck was a great success only if the goal was to normalize corporate left’s deplatforming of rightwing voices and make the alt-right a brand as viable as the skinheads. Even that assclown Anglin is now acknowledging the brand is fucked – although he won’t admit his own role in fucking it.

      This is what happens when you let LARPing wackos in. The more they move in, the more they attract other shit-heads and the more serious people move out. Alt-right is basically a bunch of Daily Storm freaks at this point. Congrats you poor idiots.

      • Paul Rain

        “Conservatism was winning until you Tea Party types who won’t compromise with the left screwed it up for us.”

        • TVMA

          There it is again… The cuck straw man. Because it’s perfectly ok to make an ass out of ourselves and dive headfirst into every trap as long as we’re not acting like boomer pussies. Fucking idiots.

          • Paul Rain

            Please explain the 4D route to Total Aryan Victory. I mean, if all we have to do is not “dive headfirst into every trap” that should be real easy, right?

          • TVMA

            You don’t need to be a 4D chess master to understand why letting the left turn you into their most convenient straw man is a dumb idea. I wasted enough time trying to get the storm fags to understand this last week. It’s a waste at this point. Even Anglin now realizes what his sheep did to this movement – despite lacking the integrity to own up to his role in it. Just carry on.

          • Paul Rain

            “I can’t explain why you people, who act like babies, are wrong, but.. wah wah wah”

          • TVMA

            You haven’t made a single coherent argument yet, you poor dipshit. Writing horse shit in quotes doesn’t qualify.

      • Melinda Santa Cruz

        Even Judge Jeanine was calling the Alt-Right, “White Supremacists.” Back in the 1960s, white supremacists were big, hairy, beer-guzzling foul-mouthed southern men who wanted to lynch blacks. Richard Spencer is anything but. He calls blacks “African Americans.” trust me when I say that the old ws had an entirely different name. They talked about them as if they were lower than dogs. My impression was that Richard and Baked Alaska went there to give speeches. I’ve never heard them say anything about hurting anyone. I’ve heard, “You will not replace us” and talk of an ethnostate. THIS IS NOT WHITE SUPREMACY. They are entirely legitimate and are now labeled as something they are not.

        • BWV

          You need to get used to – and embrace – the “White Supremacist” label. Lefties realize now that “racist” has lost it’s punch due to overuse and they’ve switched to WS as something that still has some shock value.

          Just as they never stopped calling you a racist no matter how much you proved you weren’t or how much you proved they were the “real racists” – they won’t stop calling you White Supremacists now no matter how you protest or prove your innocence. What’s the answer? Embrace the term. By this I don’t mean start calling yourself a WS. I mean don’t react or show any concern when they do.

          If you want to have some fun with it, point out to them that the white race is the only race where adding “Supremacist” scares people. Try saying “Negro Supremacy” or “Hispanic Supremacy” or “Asian Supremacy.” People will only laugh at such silliness. Ask them why, if whites aren’t superior, they fear White Supremacy.

          • Albionic American

            Absolutely NO ONE worries that some nonwhite person, male, female or transgender, could become Literally Hitler, despite the official ideology that anyone can become anything – and that shows what white and Jewish leftists really think about POC’s abilities.

            Also no one worries that some black country could build rockets and nukes like North Korea, again counter to the egalitarian propaganda. Koreans can do those things because they have IQ’s skewed towards the right side of the Bell Curve, and that gives them a relatively larger smart fraction which can handle these cognitively demanding tasks, despite North Korea’s poverty.

        • The idea of Baked being a racist is laughable. He’s like a Labrador.

          • Melinda Santa Cruz

            I got that impression.

      • LyovMyshkin

        You have lots of criticisms. That’s fine. Do you have a plan? What event are you organizing? Are you in the media making your case?

        Genuinely curious.

  • Albionic American

    You could have handled this better by planning ahead – after all, the propaganda says that white men have higher intelligence, greater powers of agency and a stronger future-orientation than our adversaries.

    One, save up cash for a year’s worth of living expenses in a Fuck-You Fund in case your activism causes you to lose your job, and you can’t move back in with parents you might have alienated.

    And two, lose weight, get in better shape and stop the cosplay. You don’t want photographs of your public appearances to embarrass you like the fat kid’s in the Confederate costume.

    I want you guys to succeed, but you need to demonstrate white superiority to our adversaries to show them that they can’t push you around. Then they will start to respect you.

    • TheLulzWarrior

      “the propaganda says that white men have higher intelligence, greater powers of agency and a stronger future-orientation than our adversaries.”

      Their propaganda says that. is tactically admitting that Whites are smarter, have more agency, more forward thinking and that only systemic, extensive racial discrimination, a complete lack of its targets resistance to it can compensate for that.

      Big picture, their entire ideology is that the White race really is superior to them.

  • Mentious

    It was a huge success because Men Got Together. In real life.
    And experienced warriorship together. That’s what we most needed to happen. Now our movement is real.

    • FIRE THE SOBS

      Yea it was a real success. You hurt Trump, great work.

  • Mihilus

    I agree with assessment. Overall it was a success. It wasnt perfect, some things could have been done better, but overall big net positive.

    The biggest positive was that we upset the enemy. They went full crazy. But the biggest thing is still to come from that rally. On Fields’ trial it must be made clear he never hit the fat commie slut. That would completely change the rally optics and subsequent DailyStormer’s illegal shutdown.

    I dont agree however with bashing of other alt-right leaders. We all know who “internet personalities who were not even present, even after they urged all their followers to attend” are. They are all good people with heart on the right place and a big net positive for the movement.

  • Dillon Francis

    “He can be a commentator, an entertainer, or a pundit. But he must not be considered a leader. I do not need to expand on this point.”

    Is the author referring to Anglin? If so he should re-read Andy’s post again. And he should remember that DS is miles ahead of any other alt-right website in its reach and popularity. So Andy is doing something right.

    • MagyarSaxon

      All leaders/potential leaders were physically in Lee Park on August 12th.
      “He can be a commentator, an entertainer, or a pundit. But he must not
      be considered a leader. I do not need to expand on this point.”

  • thunderman

    Certain people are naturally attracted to the counter-culture of their time. We are the new CC and must not cuck out or change course if we wanna eventually be the mainstream.

  • Paul Rain

    Look, these are all very interesting arguments, but the Anime Right has said a lot of things about optics, and given their great depth of real world experience, I think we need to take heed of their concerns and do whatever they say.

    • Certainly a few superpowered anime princesses could have helped against antifa.

  • TVMA

    “There is truly no such thing as bad publicity, for the simple reason
    that once you have their attention, you can convert negative feelings
    into positive feelings.”

    Riiight. That perfectly explains why political campaigns spend half their budgets on negative ads. They just want to give the other side free publicity. It explains why Hollywood won’t stop making Nazi movies and keeps giving Oscars to documentaries about the Third Reich. Also explains why the History Channel showed so much Nazi stuff they called it the Hitler Channel. You naive idiots.

    If there was no such thing as bad publicity in politics, Nazis would be more popular than Democrats and Republicans combined given the sheer amount of movies and documentaries shoved down the normies’ throats.

    Do you know how sad it is that shit like this has to be pointed out to people who WRITE for this site?

    • Albionic American

      It explains why Hollywood won’t stop making Nazi movies and keeps giving Oscars to documentaries about the Third Reich. Also explains why the History Channel showed so much Nazi stuff they called it the Hitler Channel.

      This propaganda campaign has probably backfired by making information about the Nazi movement accessible to anyone who wants to study it “in reverse” as an implicit how-to guide. If Jews would just shut up about Nazis, Hitler and the Holocaust for the next generation (they really need to get over themselves), I predict that white people will find all that swastika stuff not nearly as interesting.

      • Cuckblocker

        They can’t shut up about it, the awakening train is too deep. They’re forced to fight even harder the way they’ve always done in desperate attempts to delay the awakening of the most dim witted.

        • Albionic American

          Ironically Jews have boxed themselves into a corner, despite the propaganda about their allegedly superior intelligence, by promoting nihilism, anomie, cynicism, irreverence, despair and demoralization in the white population. If nothing in life matters, then the Holocaust doesn’t matter.

          • Cuckblocker

            Boxed themselves in a corner, or knew this would happen all along? Wait til you see the mass exodus to China by these kikes.

            The jews are a roaming tribe, have been forever.

            Also the holohoax most definitely does matter, to us.

          • Albionic American

            I doubt the Chinese would fall for Jewish propaganda about China’s history as a nation of immigrants.

          • gas the skypes

            “Zuckerburg” and “Rupert murdoch” both married chinks, in sure when they sell the Chinese guilt it’ll be done by (((Chinese))) people

          • LyovMyshkin

            I remember a great comment by an Alt-Right guy a while back it went something like “The reason Japan is still Japanese and the West is like it is is because Jews can’t pass as Japanese people.”

            Same applies to the Chinese in all likelihood.

          • LyovMyshkin

            Yes isn’t it funny how that one event has, for now, escaped the clutches of the moral relativism they so love. Not for long though.

      • LyovMyshkin

        Exactly. Make it taboo and the curious and independent minded will be compelled to investigate it.

    • A hymn to Hermes

      That perfectly explains why political campaigns spend half their budgets on negative ads.

      They don’t run negative ads against opponents no one is ever going to hear about except in negative ads, because that would be an own goal. Us getting coverage at all is an own goal.

    • LyovMyshkin

      There’s definitely a law of diminishing returns though when it comes to those attack ads — I’d say they tend to mostly have the opposite effect.

      However we’re a movement not a political campaign and we need attention right now the way a fire needs oxygen. The media is never going to cover us sympathetically and the coverage would have been as negative with or without Fields.

      The simple matter is that people are angry and dissatisfied with the system and they’re looking for other answers and they don’t trust what ‘the system’ is telling them. Us being the great bad bogeyman is the best advertising money can buy.

      Embrace it and move forward. Nothing you can ever do will make them like you.

      • BWV

        Not only is the media not going to cover us sympathetically – it won’t cover us honestly either. In that context, almost any publicity IS good because whatever gets people talking creates the opportunity to tell the other side of the story.

        • LyovMyshkin

          Exactly. Jared Taylor is the most decent, well educated and presentable white advocate in America but it doesn’t matter and in fact much of his media time now is on the back of what’s happening in the broader Alt-Right. They’re never going to cover us fairly and it’s a fantasy — all too present on the Alt-Right — that if we just be a bit more presentable and bit more sophisticated that they will give our ideas serious attention.

          They won’t so we need a work around. Also, never stop to worry what your enemy thinks of you. Or, if you do, use that impression to your advantage. This is war. Nothing else.

  • ForlornHope

    The dramatic torch-lit march was too spectacular a success to go unchallenged, hence the vicious backlash.

  • Captain John Charity Spring MA

    It’s better to act and make a mistake than dither and do nothing.

    • Melinda Santa Cruz

      I hope they start in California. We could use the help.

  • Billy Brown

    exactly why speeches are best without guns. Charlottesville was great but it was a little sloppy. we could have don’t better that’s all. coming from a chump that didn’t take the ride, but I also agree most with what you said about showing strength. not the best way imo

  • Demography is Destiny

    Charlottesville wasn’t a success, although for reasons which were partly out of control of the organizers. What they can do is to learn from their own mistakes and eliminate fascist imagery from their protests – regardless of whether this Nazi flag holder was a false flag provocateur or not – and dissociate themselves once and for all from the DS crowd. Then the AR has the chance for a new life cycle, otherwise that was it.

    • Melinda Santa Cruz

      I’m willing to bet that the “white supremacists” and the “Nazis” were planted by the governor, Terry McAuliffe.

      • Demography is Destiny

        Possibly. The left certainly always gains from such incidents. In any case it is really not difficult for the organizers to police their events to prevent Nazi flags from being displayed. All it needs is to include such a ban in the demonstration announcement and enforce it with a few stewards. I know PEGIDA has been doing for literally years with a 100% success rate.

  • LiddyLiberty

    I like the statement about local politics. We need 100s, maybe 1000s, of charismatic altright leaders to apply and work for the county sheriff and rise in the ranks to win the election and be the county sheriff. They can then staff the sheriffs’ offices with altrighters. At the same time we need altright governo, who do the same . They should all be silent about who they are — by any means necessary — until the right time comes to show they stand for truth, justice, and principles, not lies, hatred, and tyranny.

  • Cuckblocker

    C-ville was a success, and every month week and day that passes it will be looked on as more and more of a success. Extreme polarization helps us at this point.

    We should do everything possible to exacerbate the NFL kneeling BS

    • Melinda Santa Cruz

      Communists are taking over California and you think the NFL is any big deal? Watch some videos on youtube (grindall61 and Arthur Christopher Schaper channels) to see what is really happening out here. You’re state is next.

  • Yehudah Finkelstein

    Charlottesville was a short term setback in terms of negative legacy media coverage and deplatforming from Silicon Valley shitlibs, but a long term success in heightening the culture war.

    Sportsball would never have been publically attacked if Charlottesville never happened. We triggered a bunch of half retarded Dindus into kneeling, Trump got irate, attacked the Dindus, now more are kneeling and white people are turning off sportsball. Sportsball is the ONLY thing linking whites with dindus culturally, this is fraying and the NFL is in the early stages of its death spiral. More Whites will wake up now that the Sportsball opiate has been pulled away.

    • Fire Marshall Bill

      Good viewpoint. Thank you.

    • Wow.
      So it’s a tag-team 4D chess by the Alt-Right and Trump?

  • Fausto

    Capture the attention… and do what with it? Our infrastructure and organization is terrible, outside maybe Nordfront and Golden Dawn. And you Americans might think TWP or Identity Europa are well organised, but they have less than 1000 members each and no infrastructure: no think thanks, local political influence, charities, not even offices or real cash flows.

    To use your marketing analogy, this is like launching a marketing campaign and taking orders while the production lines arent even built yet.

    We could have used more time to organise and create infrastructure, and then launch a lot better planned activism. Because to me it looks like you in the US have gone off half cocked, without any plan. No real goals in mind except a vague “etnostate” somewhere in the future. No concrete short or long term goals.

    Plan ahead, organise, build infrastructure. And if nothing else, write down you short and long term goals and plan how to achieve them.

  • Yehudah Finkelstein

    Meanwhile, Please enlist today to secure Israel from Iran!

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/28/israel-is-going-to-war-in-syria-to-fight-iran/

  • Stonewall Columbus

    I look forward to marching at a rally in the future

  • Gubbler Chechenova

    I agree. Alamo was a great success too in the end.

    This is why we need Charlottesville #2. THE WORLD WILL BE WATCHING EVERY MOVE AND EVERY STEP SINCE THE FIRST ONE WAS SO LEGENDARY.

    LET’S HAVE #2 AND SHOW THAT ALT RIGHT WILL PLAY BY ALL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND RULES. (AND THIS TIME, KICK OUT ALL NAZI LARPERS AND KKK SENT BY FBI).

    • Melinda Santa Cruz

      Here is someone who knows what is going on.

  • Frank Puskas

    It also kicked off some seriously entertaining Oppression Olympics.

    Black nationalist lawyer accused of anti-Semitic remarks to investigate response to rally

    http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/black-nationalist-lawyer-accused-of-anti-semitic-remarks-to-investigate/article_f31f44b6-a4b9-11e7-bd09-df3244d83935.html

  • AnonymousWhite

    Wonder how long it will take to hear James Fields murder charges get dropped….

  • Melinda Santa Cruz

    I wouldn’t call it a success. Richard and Baked Alaska got burned by bear repellant and it looks like Jason Kessler worked with the police to set them up. An online article said that evangelical groups have sent a letter to Trump asking that he declare the Alt-Right white supremacists. I’m not sure I believe that. Why would the evangelicals care if you guys are white supremacists? They are all white around here. I would say be careful who you trust. I got my donation back from Kessler’s Unite the Right Legal Fund right away.

  • altright_sobriquet

    I view it as a complete success. A political march of a few hundred freaked out political establishments around the world. It was the lead media story for weeks and TV media still brings it up.

    We are fighting for the minds of Whites. The terms “white nationalist” and “alt-right” are now etched in the White subconscious. As these individuals are smacked in the face with the West’s decline this only accelerates their move rightward.

    Any sort of window for a political solution (in the US) closed 30 -40 years ago. Too many sophisticated and well funded “forces” are aligned against the West.

    As much as it pains me to say it, the only question is when does the situation fall apart in the US and Europe. Better sooner rather than later as the demographics are more favorable.

  • BWV

    Best line in the piece: “The people worship strength and despise weakness, and they are not going to hand us the keys of power out of pity by watching us be crushed by the police state.”

    Add “or Antifa” to the end of that and it’s gold.

    I’ve been frustrated no end seeing Trump people and Alt Right/Alt Light people showing off the blood running down their faces to demonstrate how violent Antifa is. Getting your ass kicked is not the path to power.

  • Fire Marshall Bill

    We are a movement in search of a clear-voiced leader. Invictus seems shot. Chapman seems shot (he could lead a regiment). Spencer, eh, I dont know. David Duke? Not a wise choice. Maybe McInnes?

    I think no outright WN would be a good choice to join our separate groups. The head of the Proud Boys might be a good choice, although I’m not sire if he would take it due to the prevalence of some WN among the movement.

    Maybe a combat war vet, who had a rank of E-8, E-9, or O-3 and higher, who is strong, determined, well spoken, well educated, and battle hardened would make for a VERY GOOD choice. Do we have any men among this movement who might fit that bill?

  • Thim Page

    Good street theatre, very good. Of course it was a success. My apologies for not having been there. I tried, but work interfered. So yes, take a bow.

  • MagyarSaxon

    Great points!
    Ahab does it again!

  • MagyarSaxon
  • Einar von Vielen

    God with you! Do not get frustrated any time! Time will play into your hands, as things CANNOT calm down, because the enemy needs to progress for arriving at his goals. With any further progress his intention will get clearer even to the most stupid ones. Only keep up a level of presence that requires the enemy to talk about you, silence would help them to do their thing, but violence from our side would help them even better to justify a multiplied retaliation.

    As a German I have learned from our own mistakes in the Soviet campaign: Today, we whites are the USSR that is getting attacked by forces trying to gain territory at an increasing speed after their first quick wins (unisex toilets). Stalin was hated by many soviet people, but the more it turned out that the aggression could really reach Russian home soils, the soviet people joined hands to do anything they could to to fight the enemy.

    Let them have their Stalingrad!

    Let them cross the border and gain territory (however let’s hope that there is somebody delivering weapons to us as the US provided to Stalin…)

  • Godspeed.

  • WR_the_realist

    I am still unconvinced that Charlottesville was a success. Sure, the whole world noticed it. Well, the whole world noticed Dylan Roof, too. And James Field’s road rage incident successfully put the blame for the violence on the alt right, even though the rest of the violence was initiated by antifa and its allies. I don’t blame the leaders of the event for the mess; I don’t think they understood how readily the political leaders of Charlottesville would collude with antifa, and how readily the MSM would collude with both the political leaders and antifa. Your average normie still believes that neo-nazies stormed into Charlottesville and started beating up innocent peaceful liberal protestors.

  • George Clark

    Plan an event, but show up at a different location and date.