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Africa Will Not Save Spengler’s West

Pope Francis greets children as he visits a refugee camp in Bangui, Central African Republic, Nov. 29. (CNS photo/Paul Haring) See POPE-BANGUI-UNITY Nov. 30, 2015.

Originally Posted on Thermidor Magazine

The subject of “Africa” is one that is it is almost impossible to breach without the rancid stench of sentimentality choking out the critical faculties of any potential interlocutor. A perfect case in point can be found, unsurprisingly, in one of Ross Douthat’s recent columns, “The West and What Come After.” Against the backdrop of Trump’s speech in Poland, Douthat writes:

This nationalist argument comes in racist forms, but it need not be the white nationalism that Trump’s liberal critics read into his speech. It can just be a species of conservatism, which prefers to conduct cultural exchange carefully and forge new societies slowly, lest stability suffer, memory fail and important things be lost.

As such, it’s a view I endorse. But in the European case I don’t necessarily believe that it will prevail. I certainly don’t believe in Trump as its paladin — not when his entire career makes a mockery of faith, family, tradition, virtue. Nor do I have much confidence that the present burst of European nationalism is more than a spasm, a reflex — not when religious practice is so weak, patriotism so attenuated, the continent’s birthrate so staggeringly low.

What’s more, I can read the population projections for Europe versus the Middle East and Africa, which make ideas like “managed migration” and “careful cultural exchange” seem like pretty conceits that 21st-century realities will eventually explode.

Which brings me back to Césaire and Senghor, men who loved their African heritage and yet also knew European civilization better than most educated Europeans do today. Their fantasy of a post-imperial union between north and south, white and black, was in their times just that.

But as a striking sort of African-European hybrid, as prophets of a world where the colonized and the colonizers had no choice but to find a way to live together, the West’s future may belong to them in some altogether unexpected way.

The thinly veiled conceit here is that Africa will somehow develop over the next half century or so, with its burgeoning population (much of it Christian), and through the inevitable logic of mass migration somehow revitalize a dying “Western Civilization” (whose center for Douthat is, of course, the Roman Catholic Church).

Douthat elucidated this train of thought more precisely in a series of tweets:

Whenever one reads any of Douthat’s columns it is important to note that, whenever they veer into prognostication, he has a terrible habit of indulging in transparent “wishcasting.” The most famous and amusing example of this was his slew of anti-Trump pronouncements during the primaries, all of which turned out to be horribly wrong.

What we can conclude from this history of bad takes is that these predictions serve primarily as an expression of particular fantasies. The modern Catholic conservative fetish with the “Africa as savior of the West” narrative is one such fantasy.

In his brilliant and funny review of James Cameron’s genuinely awful film “Avatar” the fat Slovenian Marxist and friend of Thermidor Slavoj Zizek observed the following:

Cameron’s superficial Hollywood Marxism (his crude privileging of the lower classes and caricatural depiction of the cruel egotism of the rich) should not deceive us. Beneath this sympathy for the poor lies a reactionary myth, first fully deployed by Rudyard Kipling’s Captains Courageous. It concerns a young rich person in crisis who gets his (or her) vitality restored through brief intimate contact with the full-blooded life of the poor. What lurks behind the compassion for the poor is their vampiric exploitation.

Interestingly, the narrative crux which Zizek exposes at work in Cameron’s sloppy moralizing is exactly the same as the one employed by Douthat in his own mythmaking.

For Douthat and his ilk, Africa represents a font of primitive vitalism which is, more or less, untouched by the decay and decadence of modern European Civilization. Douthat’s fantasy is that deeper contact between the virulent tribesmen of Sub-Saharan Africa and the effete bohemian bourgeois of Europe will somehow restore the West’s vigor and spiritual health. With Africans playing the part of the “Magical Negro” who exists within a narrative for the sole purpose of helping the white protagonist realize his potential.

There are several other, more practical problems with this as well, however, even beyond the patently obvious ones i.e. that such fantasies show a genuinely pathetic lack of self-confidence and are also inherently vampiric in nature etc.

Let us consider them. But first, we will attempt to define exactly what we mean when we talk about “The West.”

What is the West?

Writing from his new perch at National review, Michael Brendan Dougherty wrote the following about what constitutes “the West” after Trump’s Poland Speech:

Now my own definition of “the West” is wider than Samuel Huntington’s, and includes most of Christendom outside the Islamic world, including territories and nations he classifies as Orthodox, Latin American, and African. All of these now benefit from the same inheritance and strive, in Trump’s words, to “value the dignity of every human life, protect the rights of every person, and share the hope of every soul to live in freedom.”

Even as someone who believes that the pace of migration into Western Europe must slow down, I’m delighted to live in a civilization that people want to enter rather than leave, and I’m delighted that its great conversations and its inner turmoil are understood and shared by people from Puerto Santa Cruz to Minsk, from California to Kinshasa to Auckland.

Doughtery’s absurdly grandiose claim can only be explained as a kind of ecumenical Catholic power fantasy. Where any civilization which has ever been in major contact with the West (through colonization, war, commerce etc.) and has a significant Christian population somehow becomes, through some kind of osmosis, a part of “the West.” And thus, conveniently, also under the authority and jurisdiction of the West’s spiritual leader: the Pope, even if they don’t know it yet.

Such a claim is amusingly presumptuous and ignores almost all the serious thinkers who have examined the subject in any depth. Opting instead to indulge in that particular brand of sentimentality which has long been the specialty of professional ecumenists. The sentimentality which simply refuses to make hard distinctions between civilizations and cultures and instead chooses only to emphasize superficial similarities in the vain hopes of forging a universal brotherhood of man.

We should not be fooled by such seemingly kindhearted gestures of ecumenical good will, generously christening so much of the world as “Western.” For hidden within such apparent acts of altruism, as all good Nietzscheans know, is a deep-seated and frustrated will to power which seeks to accomplish through diplomacy and guile what it historically could not through brute force alone. The reforms of Vatican Two, for example, can be properly understood through such a lens. Here it is appropriate that we refer to Spengler’s remarks on what he called “Ethical Socialism,” a similarly deceptive phenomenon:

In spite of its foreground appearances, ethical Socialism is not a system of compassion, humanity, peace and kindly care, but one of will-to-power. Any other reading of it is illusory. The Stoic takes the world as he finds it, but the Socialist wants to organize and recast it in form and substance, to fill it with his own spirit. The Stoic adapts himself, the Socialist commands. He would have the whole would take the shape he desires, thus transferring the idea of the Critique of Pure Reason into the ethical field. This is the ultimate meaning of the Categorical Imperative, which he brings to bear in political, social and economic matters alike—act as though the maxims that you practice were to become by your will the law for all.

Thus, in a very peculiar sense, there is a serious case to be made that the purest Nietzschean alive today may be none other than the very Argentine Eunuch who presently serves as the bishop of Rome. Who seeks, along with his fellow travelers, to universally impose, by whatever means available, concepts that Dougherty approvingly refers to as: “the dignity of every human life,” “the rights of every person,” and “the hope of every soul to live in freedom.” The irony of Dougherty’s entire exercise here is, of course, that there is nothing more truly Western (and thus parochial) than attempting to Universalize a particular. And this is precisely what Dougherty does when he claims Kinshasa, Minsk and Puerto Santa Cruz for the West, as though he were some kind of latter day conquistador claiming the new world for Spain. But again, this instinct, as Spengler explains in a preceding chapter, is the purest possible manifestation of the Faustian Soul:

WESTERN mankind, without exception, is under the influence of an immense optical illusion. Everyone demands something of the rest. We say “thou shalt” in the conviction that so-and-so in fact will, can and must be changed or fashioned or arranged conformably to the order, and our belief both in the efficacy of, and in our title to give, such orders is unshakable. That, and nothing short of it, is, for us, morale. In the ethics of the West everything is direction, claim to power, will to affect the distant. Here Luther is completely at one with Nietzsche, Popes with Darwinians, Socialists with Jesuits; for one and all, the beginning of morale is a claim to general and permanent validity

The moral imperative as the form of morale is Faustian and only Faustian. It is quite wrong to associate Christianity with the moral imperative. It was not Christianity that transformed Faustian man, but Faustian man who transformed Christianity—and he not only made it a new religion but also gave it a new moral direction. The “it” became “I,” the passion-charged centre of the world, the foundation of the great Sacrament of personal contrition. Will-to-power even in ethics, the passionate striving to set up a proper morale as a universal truth, and to enforce it upon humanity, to reinterpret or overcome or destroy everything otherwise constituted—nothing is more characteristically our own than this is.

From its origins in scholastic rationalism and natural law theories on through the rise of Deism, the Kantian Imperative, The Rights of Man, Universal Class Struggle, on down to the “Universal Human Rights” of our contemporary Neoliberals, nothing has been more exclusively Western than this drive for power which is hidden beneath the pretense of “Universal Reason.”

The point here, however, is not to condemn this Western Impulse, but simply to recognize it. For both good and ill what Spengler deemed the “Faustian Spirit” is an intrinsic part of the Western soul and has been responsible for both its wonders and horrors.

African Dreams

Now that we have at least scratched the surface of what we mean (or should mean) when we speak of “The West”, we can return to the question of what, if any, role Africa will play in the West’s future.

No one, of course, can predict the future with any certitude. However, there are several outcomes which, according to the present observable trends, are likely to manifest in the coming decades.

The first and most obvious of these is Africa’s incredible projected population growth. Unlike populations in Asia, such as China and India where birth rates have declined dramatically from their 1970’s highs, Africa’s birth rates have actually somehow slightly increased. It is currently estimated that if present trends continue Africa’s overall population could quadruple from its current 1 billion to over 4 billion by 2100, with the population of Subsaharan Africa alone swelling from its present 900 million to over 2.2 billion. From the Economist:

The prospect of so rapid a rise has triggered a host of Malthusian fears, on the continent and elsewhere. If Africa is struggling to feed a billion people, it is hard to see how it could feed 4 billion in future. Though the past decade has been relatively peaceful, perhaps a population boom will fuel civil strife. And surely, some fear, the expanding masses will destroy what is left of Africa’s flora and fauna, wiping out endangered species and pouring concrete on primal forest and grassland.

Such pessimism is probably overdone. Though fertility has not fallen as much in Africa as elsewhere, it has declined. So far, Central Africa’s tropical forests have not felt the chainsaws. And Africa remains a relatively empty continent. It covers a quarter of the globe’s land mass but hosts only 15% of its population. Asia, the most densely populated as well as most populous continent, has 137 people per square kilometre. Africa has 39. There should be room for more Africans.

Although it is certainly the case that Malthusian fears have been historically overblown by decadent first-worlders, who fail to understand the seemingly limitless ability of global capitalism to innovate its way past all natural limits, it is hard to believe that such a massive population boom in such a volatile and dysfunctional part of the world could happen without serious negative consequences.

These negative consequences will have far less to do with a Malthusian crisis of scarcity, since, after all, Africa is a quite a large landmass with significant deposits of natural wealth. Rather these consequences will spring, almost exclusively, from the cultural dysfunction inherent in so many African societies.

Most of Sub-Sahara African societies still operate, much like Afghanistan, on a tribal model. With the current “nations”, whose names and boundaries presently appear on Google Maps, being mostly artificial creations of Post-colonialism and the Cold War.

It is an Iron Age mindset and thus, again, much like Afghanistan, we should not be surprised when it results in Iron Age outcomes. As has been quite evident for decades in the continent’s seemingly endless series of Civil Wars and small (and large) scale genocides.

Even when a country has managed to escape the worst possible outcomes, such as the anarchy and nightmarish violence which regularly happens in places like Somalia, Sierra Leone, The Congo and South Sudan, it does so almost entirely due to the actions of a Mugabesque strong man who operates as little more than a petty warlord. While he may provide some semblance of order, he still ultimately only leaves corruption and stagnation in his wake.

The few exceptions, such as Ghana, end up proving the rule.

This level of social organization, which can objectively be termed primitive, is surely one of the reasons why Samuel Huntington did not recognize any Non-Islamic section of Africa (with the notable exception of Ethiopia, which was a thriving and vibrant civilization when many Europeans were still living in hovels) as constituting a legitimate “Civilization.”

The Great Migration

All of these realities of African Societies, for most Europeans, would be only of passing or, at best, humanitarian interest if it wasn’t for the events of the past several years. Recent events—in particular, the destruction of the Government of Lybia—have completely altered the dynamics of the relationship between Africa and “The West.”

African migrants are now flowing, en masse, from the shores of a lawless Lybia and straight into the underbelly of a spiritually exhausted but otherwise still prosperous Europe.

This trend will only continue in the coming decades as Africa’s population exponentially expands and the Economic overlords of the West’s great Neoliberal metropolises seek out ever more inexpensive sources of labor to staff their servant classes with.

Sentimental columnists like Douthat believe the silver lining to this phenomenon will be African vitalism giving new life to an exhausted West by bringing in a revitalized Christianity. This is a profound mistake, but not just for the obvious reasons that were previously stated.

Douthat and Dougherty’s primary sin is their implicit assumption, revealed by the substance of their rhetoric, that, in the words of Hilaire Belloc, “Europe is the faith, the faith is Europe.”

While it may be legitimate to recognize the inherently Christian characteristics of Western European Civilization, it is utterly illegitimate to claim that Western European Civilization somehow defines Christianity. This latter idea seems to be the driving force behind Michael Brendan Dougherty’s inane assertion that the West spans from “Minsk to Kinshasa.” Since if “the West” is really just Christianity itself then all nations who embrace Christianity in any significant way instantly become part of the West.

The only problem is that this assertion is completely ahistorical and ignores massive parts of Christian history and theology.

The Christian Church, while it can inhabit the symbolic imaginaries of particular cultures, also simultaneously transcends these particular forms without negating them. But it certainly isn’t bound to any one particular form, as was the Delusion of the Roman Catholic Latinizers of the 18th and 19th centuries who, in classic Faustian fashion, attempted to will their particular into a universal.

Christianity started in Asia and experienced its theological golden age in North Africa, Egypt, and Asia Minor. The first Nations to declare Christianity the official faith were Armenia and Ethiopia. Nations where they have been continuously practiced down to the present day.

Western Christianity, while notable for many reasons, is not representative of the Christian tradition as a whole and shouldn’t be mistaken for it. Western Christianity is a peculiar and parochial phenomenon which emerged out of particular conditions.

The notion that one can revitalize such a particular phenomenon by importing foreign elements which are utterly culturally alien is worse than naive and flirting with open deception. This isn’t to say that a massive influx of African Christians in the next 100 years wouldn’t potentially make Europe more “Christian”; it very well may. But it is worth noting that this “Christianity,” as it is mostly an interesting mixture of shopping mall evangelicalism and African Animism, would in no sense revitalize “Western Civilization” but rather usher in its replacement.

To be fair, this grand replacement of Western Civilization may be all but inevitable at this late stage in its lifecycle. Spengler certainly thought so, as he presciently articulated in “Man and Technics” where he described the inevitable eclipse of Western Civilization by its civilizational rivals:

Today more or less everywhere — in the Far East, India, South America, South Africa — industrial regions are in being, or coming into being, which, owing to their low scales of wages, will face us with a deadly competition. The unassailable privileges of the white races have been thrown away, squandered, betrayed. The others have caught up with their instructors. Possibly — with their combination of “native” cunning and the over-ripe intelligence of their ancient civilizations — they have surpassed them…The innumerable hands of the coloured races — at least as clever, and far less exigent — will shatter the economic organization of the whites at its foundations.

For these “coloured” peoples (including, in this context, the Russians) the Faustian technics are in no wise an inward necessity. It is only Faustian man that thinks, feels, and lives in this form. To him it is a spiritual need, not on account of its economic consequences, but on account of its victories — “navigare necesse est, vivere non
est necesse.” For the coloured races, on the contrary, it is but a weapon in their fight against the Faustian civilization, a weapon like a tree from the woods that one uses as house timber, but discards as soon as it has served its purpose. This machine-technics will end with the Faustian civilization and one day will lie in fragments, forgotten — our railways and steamships as dead as the Roman roads and the Chinese wall, our giant cities and skyscrapers in ruins like old Memphis and Babylon. The history of this technics is fast drawing to its inevitable close.. It will be eaten up from within, like the grand forms of any and every Culture. When, and in what fashion, we know not.

Whether we or our descendants will live to see Spengler’s infamous pessimism borne out remains to be seen. The future, after all, is still unwritten. However, the very least we can do is maintain a certain intellectual honesty, as a doctor is expected to be honest with a cancer patient about his realistic chances for survival and treatment options. And not retreat to oriental herbal remedies or wax poetic about the amazing healing properties of crystals, in order to hide what may be an unpleasant truth.

If Africans do end up making the trip and begin “colonizing” Europe, for better or worse, they may indeed bring a newfound spiritual and civilizational vigor (in time perhaps establishing their own unique civilization) but it won’t be a Western one. As they remain part of a unique cultural and civilizational framework which, while it deserves respect on its own terms, will always remain irreducibly distinct from the West’s. Thus, no spiritual blood transfusion, of the kind dreamt of by the Opinion page Catholics, will ever succeed in fomenting anything but catastrophe.

The solution to Europe’s crisis, if there is one, is something she will have to find within herself.

There died a myriad,

And of the best, among them,

For an old bitch gone in the teeth,

For a botched civilization

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Absurdiness Brown
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Seal it off for long enough most will die from AIDS. Just seal it off…

Vlad le Putin
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Need to end all foreign aid to Africa. I suspect the projected population boom will not happen should that occur.

Sieghart
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Very eloquent piece – always appreciate an article with a Spenglerian bent. Bonus points for use of “Mugabesque.”

JohnEngelman
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Civilization has a civilizing process, but the process is evolutionary and takes many generation. During most of history in civilized countries criminals were killed at the scene of the crime, they died in custody, or they were executed. The few children some of them had rarely lived to adulthood. On the other hand, intelligent men tended to become prosperous. They tended to have more children who survived and reproduced than unintelligent men. This is why races that have practiced civilization the longest have the lowest crime rates and the highest IQ averages, everywhere they live, even when they are poor.… Read more »
Evolver1
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Off topic: Jewish scientists say the Negro Igbo people of Nigeria have Jewish genes. Will Israel now let the 32 million Igbos immigrate to Israel? Don’t count on it.

http://dailypost.ng/2017/08/06/biafra-jewish-scientists-storm-anambra-present-confirmatory-dna-test-igbo-origin-photos/

Lucas Wheeler
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Added comment again gmz

gokart-mozart
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Anyone who includes Kinshasa in the West has never been near Kinshasa.

The horror, the horror.

Ivan Prihhodko
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Too much blackpilling. What exactly are we going to do to win this ?

McSwag
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African immigration is a “bad idea” from anyone’s point of view.

Hagarqim
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……………………..it is like committing suicide?

WR_the_realist
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Isn’t Obviousness 1.1 that African migration into any white country is a bad thing?

Strongs119
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Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa, “uplifting” Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he said: “I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all White men that have lived here must learn and know; that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share in any of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and bring them the advantages which our civilization… Read more »
Strongs119
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Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa, “uplifting” Negroes, received the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before his death, he said: “I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that all White men that have lived here must learn and know; that these individuals are a sub-race; they have neither the intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate or share in any of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and bring them the advantages which our civilization… Read more »
Hagarqim
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why wasn’t it wrong the other way round? Colonial powers proved that long time ago. Now Africa wants to get back to those same powers through mass immigration!

Strongs119
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Third world, non-white races can’t sustain a civilization built by White Europeans. Without Blacks and Hispanics, US would be running budget surpluses today, even when keeping the military same size.
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/
https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/880784832573210625

♦ Dr William L. Pierce – The Lesson of Haiti. https://youtu.be/hmJLh3QCNgM

Bruce Regael
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Achually, hordes from Africa may be the only thing that saves the West. It’s the final play and (((they))) played it perfectly to the “T”. When this is all said and done we might actually thank those same people we fight today. I could imagine no other way our people would escape the glacially slow enslavement without some rapid event snapping them back to reality.

Lucas Wheeler
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I hope we can find another way besides being nig slapped back to sense.

illkhan
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Whoever wrote this seems like a cuck, talking about how niggers are totally going to outstrip the west economically, top fucking kek. Gonna make a mental note to ignore anything emanating from that guy.

Lucas Wheeler
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Actually that would be Oswald Spengler who’s cucking. Certainly not the first time Spengler been accused of being a cuck.

Hagarqim
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and I wonder how will Dindus stand against artificial intelligence? In ten years time many jobs will be done by robots and through a huge server. All mankind is doomed!

Johnny Fascismo
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Marathon-Youth
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Africa is 11.7 million Square miles and it has a population of 1 billion 2 hundred million
Now compare Africa to:
-The Indian Subcontinent is 1 million 700 thousand square miles and has a population of 1 billion 700 million.
-China is around 3 million 700 thousand square miles with a population of 1 billion 300 million
-South East Asia is 1 million 700 thousand square miles with a population of 630 million

Clearly Africa has plenty of open space, fertile land, sun, natural resources and a young population. They do not need to come here

Civ MMXVII
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Lucas Wheeler
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You’re not a race realist are you? I guess you just hate being around dindu nuffins so much that you would let them trash Africa so as not to be near them. That would be trashing one of the planets most spectacular natural jewels just so you don’t have to leave your comfort zone. I would say Africans in their natural state can even add to the beauty of Africa. After all they are its native rogue primate But, in order to do that their numbers need to be culled. We need to collectively man up and do the job… Read more »
Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

They are AIDS.

VaronosMinxaouzen
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Don’t speak ill o AIDS by comparing it to them!

Crud Bonemeal
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They do need to come here because they depend on gibs to maintain their current population numbers and this is the source of gibs

Wild Bill
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What else can the west expect, when the west turns away from Christianity and adopts nature worship (in the form of environmentalism) as its creed and worldview? Down with the green religionist tree-huggers!

Old Gregg
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So therefore we need niggers? We see what your priorities are Christcuck.

Wild Bill
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Here is how it works, Old Gregg… The Anglo-American settlers who founded the United States believed that the Creator had put the natural environment here so that man could use it — not so that man could worship it. This belief system gave the settlers freedom of action. They could access natural resources as they pleased, without having to beg for permission from a hierarchy of priests and government officials. So they prospered and multiplied. Conversely, Indian tribesmen worshiped the natural environment through the veneration of totem animals, rather than worshiping the Creator who had created everything. Their reverence for… Read more »
Strongs119
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The notion that a majority of Amerindians were wiped out by diseases carried to the America’s by European explorers is pure leftist Marxist propaganda, designed to instill guilt in people of White European racial heritage, as new evidence shows. Megadeath in Mexico. Epidemics followed the Spanish arrival in the New World, but the worst killer may have been a shadowy native—a killer that could still be out there. http://discovermagazine.com/2006/feb/megadeath-in-mexico Mexican epidemiologist Rodolfo Acuña-Soto’s studies of ancient documents revealed that the Aztecs were familiar with smallpox, perhaps even before Cortés arrived. They called it zahuatl. Spanish colonists wrote at the time… Read more »
Strongs119
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The Lovelock cave giants archaeological discovery could be an example of the ancient European inhabitants of North America meeting a violent end at the hands of Asiatic originating Amerindians. http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends-americas/lovelock-cave-tale-giants-or-giant-tale-fiction-003060 The Paiutes, a Native-American tribe indigenous to parts of Nevada, have an oral tradition that they told to early white settlers of the area about a race of red-haired, white giants or ‘barbarians’ that their ancestors referred to as the “Si-Te-Cah.” The story was written down in 1882 by Sarah Winnemucca Hopkins, daughter of a Paiute Indian chief in her book: “Life Among the Piutes: Their Wrongs and Claims.” These… Read more »
Strongs119
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“Radical theory of first Americans places Stone Age Europeans in Delmarva 20,000 years ago”). https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/radical-theory-of-first-americans-places-stone-age-europeans-in-delmarva-20000-years-ago/2012/02/28/gIQA4mriiR_story.html?utm_term=.4583a9743a6e “NEW EVIDENCE SUGGESTS STONE AGE HUNTERS FROM EUROPE DISCOVERED AMERICA” http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/new-evidence-suggests-stone-age-hunters-from-europe-discovered-america-7447152.html “The Solutrean (European originating) Native Americans were either partly absorbed by the newcomers (Asian-originating Indians) or were substantially obliterated by them either physically or through competition for resources.” The remains of the Windover Bog People were discovered in January 1982 during the construction of a new road near Titusville, Florida. The discovery yielded the skeletons of 168 men, women and children dating back over 7000 years ago. DNA testing indicated these people were of… Read more »
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25020958
Scientists [at University of Copenhagen] have mapped the genome of a four-year-old boy who died in south-central Siberia 24,000 years ago. It is the oldest modern human genome sequenced to date, researchers report in the journal Nature. The results provide a window into the origins of Native Americans, whose ancestors crossed from Siberia into the New World during the last Ice Age. They suggest about a third of Native American ancestry came from an ancient population related to Europeans.

Crud Bonemeal
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If Christianity is so good, why are virtually 100% of actual, existing Christian institutions promoting race replacement and white genocide, or remaining silent on the subject?

Strongs119
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Fortunately, the 2nd largest branch of Christendom in the world, Eastern Orthodoxy, has rejected the cuckoldry (i.e. the embrace of the multiculti, multifaith, transgender, anything goes, “tolerant” ideology) that has been adopted by other Christian churches such as the Roman Catholic Church, Anglicans, and other Protestant denominations, in place of Christian values. The head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, has hit out at multiculturalism saying it has “no future”. http://www.christiantoday.com/article/patriarch.kirill.multiculturalism.puts.christianity.at.risk/101613.htm https://www.rt.com/news/367599-patriarch-kirill-rt-interview/ Multifaith diversity is condemned in Exodus 23:33. Both 2 John 9-11 and 2 Corinthians 6:16-18 instruct Christians to separate themselves from the followers of non-Christian religions. Luke… Read more »
Ken31
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Unlike the Pope, The Patriarch is not an anti-Christ assuming roles and powers reserved for God.

Strongs119
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“The evil influence of Satan was evident in the highest ranks of the Catholic hierarchy, with cardinals who do not believe in Jesus and bishops who are linked to the demon,” Vatican Chief exorcist Father Amorth said. http://www.baltimoresun.com/bs-mtblog-2010-03-vatican_exorcist_satan_respons-story.html The Roman Catholic church has been infiltrated at the highest levels by Crypto-Jews and by the Freemasonic servants of international Jewry. By these means the Devil has entered the Vatican. This (((infiltration))) is reminiscent of the advice given by the Grand Satraps and Rabbis to Chemor, Jewish Rabbi of the city of Arles in the Provence region of southern France. “As for… Read more »
Strongs119
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http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/john-paul-ii-kissing-the-koran/ John Paul II kissed the blasphemous Koran, May 14, 1999. Even though the Koran denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the now deceased servant of Satan, Pope John Paul II, kissed that blasphemous book of demonic filth. https://aleteia.org/2014/06/09/pope-francis-koran-kisser/ Pope Francis kissed the Koran and hosted Islamic prayers in the Vatican! Pope Francis said that the Koran, and the spiritual teachings contained therein, are just as valid as the Holy Bible. Pope Francis’ embrace of the demonic “religion” Islam, which denies that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, makes him an antichrist, per 1 John 2:22… Read more »
Strongs119
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A shaman works her sorcery on Pope Francis. [PHOTO: Third Indigenous Peoples’ Forum, Feb. 15, 2017] 2 Corinthians 6:16-18 “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be… Read more »
Wild Bill
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Bravo, brother Strongs119.

Strongs119
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Is Putin the ‘Preeminent Statesman’ of Our Times? By Patrick J. Buchanan – March 30, 2017 http://buchanan.org/blog/putin-preeminent-statesman-times-126734

President Putin promotes a Russian society based on traditional Christian family values, which leftists view as an affront, and a threat to their tolerant, “anything goes,” secular, degenerate agenda. Look at the words of former Swedish PM, (also served as an EU diplomat) Carl Bildt, who equated being “anti-decadence,” to being “anti-west.”

http://www.monomakhos.com/eu-orthodoxy-is-the-enemy/
“The new anti-west and anti-decadent line [of conduct] of Putin is based on the deep conservatism of Eastern Orthodox ideas,” Carl Bildt is convinced.

Wild Bill
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That’s why I like Trump. I think he is trying to follow Putin’s example. Unfortunately, Trump is not getting the amount of cooperation from members of his party that Putin is getting from his. Hmm, maybe Trump should ask Putin for advice. The world might be a better place if they could work together, instead of working against each other.

Strongs119
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Orthodoxy, Putin and the West http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rev-dr-john-chryssavgis/orthodoxy-putin-and-the-w_b_5302368.html Buchanan, a proponent of the religious right, of course knows. Like Putin, he is convinced, that God is not on the side of the West’s debauchery — by which they may in fact mean the West’s emphasis on freedom and objection to discrimination of any sort. Buchanan must have had more than a bad day at the office when he wrote: “Putin is tapping into the worldwide revulsion of and resistance to the sewage of a hedonistic, secular and social revolution coming out of the West.” He believes that “Putin is planting Russia’s flag… Read more »
Strongs119
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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/how-russia-became-a-leader-of-the-worldwide-christian-right-214755 How Russia Became the Leader of the Global Christian Right. While the U.S. passed gay-rights laws, Moscow moved hard the other way, in 2013 Moscow passed the “anti-LGBT propaganda law” which punishes the distribution of “propaganda of non-traditional sexual relationships” among minors. The World Congress of Family’s (WCF) listed Russia’s emergence as a “Pro-Family Leader” as one of the “10 best trends” of 2013. http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/07/27/report-atheism-in-russia-falls-by-50-percent-in-three-years/ The number of Russians who identify as atheists has fallen by 50 percent in just three years, according to a recent poll by the Levada research center. ♦ Former Swedish PM, (and ex-EU diplomat)… Read more »
Strongs119
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Godless leftists promote sexual degeneracy, pro-LGBTQ lifestyles, trannies in female bathrooms, etc, e.g. this article published June 25, 2017 by the leftwing Huffington post, entitled: Here’s An Amazing Way To Explain Drag Culture To Kids. http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/queer-kid-stuff-drag_us_594d8816e4b05c37bb768284 Leftists promote all sorts of degeneracy, and sick criminality, the leftwing “Green” party in Germany even tried to legalize pedophilia! https://newrepublic.com/article/120379/german-green-party-pedophilia-scandal http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4606614/Putin-claims-duty-stop-gay-marriages.html President Putin highlighted Europe’s decline when he stated: “Europeans are dying out. Same-sex marriages can’t produce children.” https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/03/its-putins-world/513848/ At the Valdai Forum in September 2013, in front of representatives from most European countries, President Putin said: “We can see how many of… Read more »
Wild Bill
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Your point is well taken. This defilement of Christian institutions is happening, because people like us (who have a strong sense of racial identity) have not taken control of the institutions of Christianity and cleansed them of the degenerates who are too dimwitted to realize that interracial marriage is a crime against God.

Clark Kent
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Where in Christian theology does it say interracial marriage is a crime against God?
If we could find a justification for our ethnocentric views within Christian doctrine, that would be a great help to our cause.

Strongs119
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Both racial segregation and racial hierarchy, are supported by God, and enforced by the Israelites in Numbers 25:6-13, Deuteronomy 17:15, Deuteronomy 23:2-3, Ezra 9:1-2, Ezra 10:2-3, Hosea 5:7, Sirach 13:14-16, Tobit 4:12, and elsewhere. Deuteronomy 23:2-3 “A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord. 3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the Lord for ever:” http://www.kingjamesbibledictionary.com/StrongsNo/H4464/bastard “Bastard” — Strong’s Bible Concordance Number#H4464… Read more »
Clark Kent
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Hey thanks for this post.
If we can find grounding for some of our ideas in Scripture, we can establish a deeper level of legitimacy.

Strongs119
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You’re welcome.

You might find the information in my replies to “Wild Bill” above interesting.

Wild Bill
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An excellent observation, sir. We may have to write our own version of Christian theology — as John Calvin did in the 1500s, when he brushed away much of Catholic theology and replaced it with his own (more business-friendly) theology. In the Bible itself, there are plenty of passages that advocate racial segregation — and even genocide — in regard to people who are regarded by God as unfit for conversion, the Canaanites, for example. (See Deuteronomy, Chapter 7 verses 1 to 4.) “And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly… Read more »
Strongs119
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Tobit 4:12 “Beware, my son, of all immorality. First of all take a wife from among the descendants of your fathers and DO NOT MARRY A FOREIGN WOMAN, WHO IS NOT OF YOUR FATHER’S TRIBE; for we are the sons of the prophets. Remember, my son, that Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, our fathers of old, all took wives from among their brethren. They were blessed in their children, and their posterity will inherit the land.” https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Tobit-4-12/ https://orthodoxwiki.org/Tobit Orthodox Christianity and Roman Catholicism consider the Book of Tobit to be canonical. Roman Catholics often refer to the book of Tobit… Read more »
Strongs119
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Racial segregation and racial hierarchy, is supported by God, and enforced by the Israelites in Numbers 25:6-13, Deuteronomy 17:15, Deuteronomy 23:2-3, Ezra 9:1-2, Ezra 10:2-3, Hosea 5:7, Sirach 13:14-16, Tobit 4:12, and elsewhere. P.S. “Bastard,” found in Deuteronomy 23:2-3 is defined as: a {mongrel} that {is} born of a Jewish father and a heathen mother. SEE Strong’s Exhaustive Bible Concordance, Strong’s Number, #H4464 @ link. http://www.kingjamesbibledictionary.com/StrongsNo/H4464/bastard Tobit 4:12 “Beware, my son, of all immorality. FIRST OF ALL TAKE A WIFE FROM AMONG THE DESCENDANTS OF YOUR FATHERS and DO NOT MARRY A FOREIGN WOMAN, WHO IS NOT OF YOUR FATHER’S… Read more »
Clark Kent
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I think this is a worthy project.
Thanks for the input.

Wild Bill
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Thanks, I just noticed that Calvin himself was strongly opposed to miscegenation. Among many other comments re interracial marriage, he wrote: “Now, although all mankind had been formed for the worship of God, and therefore sincere religion ought everywhere to have reigned; yet since the greater part had prostituted itself, either to an entire contempt of God, or to depraved superstitions; it was fitting that the small portion which God had adopted, by special privilege, to himself, should remain separate from others. It was, therefore, base ingratitude in the posterity of Seth, to mingle themselves with the children of Cain,… Read more »
Strongs119
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After Adam’s wife Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel in Genesis 4:1 no other child of Eve is mentioned until the birth of Seth, when Adam was 130 years old, most scholars agree this was over 100 years after the birth of Cain and Abel. If Eve had other children in the 100 years BEFORE Seth was born she would not have said in Genesis 4:25 that God “hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel” [with reference to Seth] as her numerous other seed could’ve and would’ve already replaced Abel. Where then did the persons that Cain feared… Read more »
Wild Bill
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“After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he begot sons and daughters.” (Genesis 5:4)

Strongs119
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Eve is the mother of her and her husband Adam’s descendants, the Adamic Race, which the bible is dedicated to. Genesis 5:1 “This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;” https://www.icr.org/article/517/ Ussher’s Chronology of biblical events places Noah’s flood at around 2348BC, which is the same period as Egypt’s 5th dynasty (2494BC – 2345BC), and Chinese Emperor Yao’s reign (2356 – 2255 BC) both of which continued without interruption, therefore, neither Africa nor Asia were completely covered by Noah’s flood, hence the Negro and… Read more »
Strongs119
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Eve is the mother of her and Adam’s descendants, the Adamic Race as per Genesis 5:1 “This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;” https://www.icr.org/article/517/ Ussher’s Chronology of biblical events places Noah’s flood at around 2348BC, which is the exact same period as the Egyptian 5th dynasty (2494BC – 2345BC), and Chinese Emperor Yao’s reign (2356 – 2255 BC) both of which continued without interruption, therefore, neither Africa nor Asia were completely covered by Noah’s flood, hence the African Negro and Oriental races were… Read more »
Strongs119
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Genesis 5:4 “And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:”

The sons and daughters that Adam and Eve begat, mentioned in Genesis 5:4, were born after Seth. If they had been born in the period after Cain murdered Abel, but before the birth of Seth, Eve would not have said in Genesis 4:25 that God “hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel” [with reference to Seth] as her other seed (Genesis 5:4) would’ve already replaced Abel.

Strongs119
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Strong’s Exhaustive Bible Concordance definition of ADAM is to: “SHOW BLOOD (in the FACE), i.e. FLUSH or TURN ROSY — be (dyed, made) red (RUDDY).” See http://www.kingjamesbibledictionary.com/StrongsNo/H119/dyed%20red Adam’s characteristics, “Showing blood in the face, Ruddy, Flushing, turning Rosy,” are physical attributes that would be used to describe White people. (It would be unusual to say that an African Negro “turned rosy”). Adam’s description matches that of a white male, and Eve can only be a white female, as God made Eve from Adam’s rib, [See Genesis 2:22], thus Adam and Eve’s descendants would share their parents appearance, and are white,… Read more »
BANTU
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My dear Friend, Please note that the Biblical Text are Original written in Aramaic and Early Hebrew Language of the Afro- Asiatic Semetic . The Bible was translated first to Greek and then latin and then English. The Word “WHITE” has a different meaning in the Original Language 1. ERU or ILU which means Bright and Clear , Pure . From where the word EL for God is delivered and ILLUminati latin word for Enlightening comes from. 2. The ERU is the African bantu word for the same concept of Pure , white Holy from where the word HERU (… Read more »
Krafty Wurker
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It’s too bad that you have to go to a good college or university library, one established in the 19th Century, to read the Protestant Reformers. Even there, many, or most of their books & writings have been removed from the library collections.

Someone really should research and publish The Protestant Reformers on Race. But, I seriously doubt that will happen, as it would be too politically incorrect, and their racial & other opinions of Italians, Spaniards and the French would be sure to offend the catholic of the AltRight.

Wild Bill
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“Someone really should research and publish The Protestant Reformers on Race.”
Great idea !!!
Possible titles:
— The Protestant Reformers Speak About Race
— John Calvin Speaks About Race
— The Racial Imperative: The Protestant Reformers on Race
From what I have been able to find so far, Calvin seems to have had the most ironclad sense of racial identity, which is good, because he was, by far, the most influential of the reformers regarding systematic theology.

Strongs119
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Father Stanley Harakas, stated: “The Church holds that nations were created by God. Consequently, total intermarriage would destroy the races which God created. The Church has never advocated or encouraged racially mixed marriages.” https://orthodoxwiki.org/Stanley_._Harakas Sirach 13:14-16 “Every creature loves its like, and every person his neighbor; all living beings associate by species, and a man clings to one like himself.” I provide the words of one of the twentieth century’s foremost theologians. Father Dumitru Staniloae, helps us understand in his Orthodoxy and Nationalism: “A man pure, without nationality (race) is an abstraction. Since there cannot be an apple without the… Read more »
Strongs119
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“If it is a source of joy and glory to men to have children like unto themselves – and it is more agreeable to have begotten an offspring then when the remaining progeny responds to the parent with like lineaments (characteristics)– how much greater is the gladness of God the Father, when any one is so spiritually born that in his acts and praises the DIVINE EMINENCE OF RACE is announced!” – The Treatises of SAINT CYPRIAN of Carthage, p 1012. Here Saint Cyprian is saying that when one considers the joy of a father who has produced children from… Read more »
Strongs119
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Romanian Orthodox Christian priest, theologian and professor, Father Dumitru Staniloae, worked for over 45 years on a comprehensive Romanian translation of the Greek Philokalia, a collection of writings on prayer by the Church Fathers, together with the hieromonk, Arsenie Boca, who brought manuscripts from Mount Athos. His book, The Dogmatic Orthodox Theology (1978), made him one of the best-known Christian theologians of the second half of the 20th century. He also produced commentaries on earlier Christian thinkers, such as St Gregory of Nyssa, Saint Maximus the Confessor, and St Athanasius of Alexandria. FATHER DUMITRU STANILOAE WRITES: “A man pure, without… Read more »
Albionic American
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At best we can support Christianity ironically, with a wink and a nod, as a form of useful Creative Anachronism. The religion rationally makes no sense, even given its own assumptions, because it has no explanation for why God’s creatures can rebel against him, nor why this can’t keep happening again and again. Why can’t Christians in heaven rebel against God, for example? For all we know, some Christian reading my post has drawn the short straw in the next stage of God’s plan, and God has predestined him to become the next Satan.

Ken31
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Pretending god and creation are divisible (including ourselves) is how evil comes into being. This is where Christianity fails.

Wild Bill
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Evil comes into being from you being weak.
That’s how it works.
You don’t like evil?
Then get stronger.
The stronger you get the farther you are from evil.

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

It’s the religion of a 30 something in crisis. He downs tools and goes on a rampage.

Wild Bill
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I respect your search for absolute truth. As a young fellow, I felt the same hunger for truth. Then, as I grew older, I began to search for “truth” in “utility,” concluding that the worldview that is most “useful” has to be the worldview that the most “truthful.” Thus, I moved from atheism and reverence for nature (in which man is merely one of many life forms) to Christianity (in which man has a special status and is commanded to rule over nature).

Wild Bill
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It took me a couple of decades to transition from being an aggressive atheist to being a strict Calvinist Christian — a process that occurred in stages (atheist to agnostic, to theist, to deist, to nominal Christian, to Calvinist Christian). As an agnostic or atheist, the stage of that conversion that you might find most amusing happened one afternoon when I was listening to a panel discussion on National Public Radio. A well-known feminist environmentalist was saying… “The story of this conflict is the story of how we view ourselves in relation to animals, whether we can replace the assumption… Read more »
Ken31
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Calvinism is perhaps the greatest evil ever perpetrated against man. It is literally insane. It robs man of true agency as well as god and makes a mockery of the purpose of creation. It is incoherent and contradictory with itself and nature, which leads the cognitive mind to be at war with the rest of the body and that outside of it.

Roy Hobs
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“….Calvinism is perhaps the greatest evil ever perpetrated against man. It is literally insane….. Hi Ken……just wanted to acknowledge this comment and say I completely agree. If you haven’t already, you must check out Malcolm Lavender’s works — http://www.lavendersnewtestament.com I recommend all his books, but be sure to pick up a copy of his New Testament and his book, “He Offered Himself; or Priestly Sacrificial Atonement. I wish this debate — Calvinism vs. Arminianism could be argued from the perspective of ‘what happened on the cross’ and ‘what do we do about sin’. The position of Calvinists/OSAS advocates toward Sin… Read more »
Strongs119
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John 10:26 “But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.” NOTE: There is a big difference between “you do not believe because you are not my sheep,” AND “you are not my sheep because you do not believe.” The following bible verses clarify that difference. Matthew 15:13 “But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.” John 15:16 “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your… Read more »
Wild Bill
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Ken says, “Calvinism says that who is Saved is predetermined and that you can identify those who are saved by their behavior.” Well Ken, that is correct, and that is exactly what the Bible says: “For the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls, it was said to her, ‘The older shall serve the younger.’ As it is written, ‘Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.'” (Romans, Ch. 9, verses 11-14). “Does not the potter… Read more »
Wild Bill
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If you make a habit of arguing with atheists about the existence of God and the validity of the Bible, you might find that Calvinist Theology works better as a rhetorical weapon than Arminian Theology works. (Calvinism negates many of the atheists’ favorite arguments.)

At any rate, don’t worry. Your eternal salvation does not depend on whether you prefer the Reformed Doctrine of Predestination or the Arminian Doctrine of Free Will.

Ivan Prihhodko
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Thank you for your comment, I find the description of Christianity as a useful tool of White People to be very apt. However, a tool should not become a master, and therefore, Christianity alone is insufficient.

Wild Bill
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You are 100% correct. A culture that embraces Christianity without, recognizing the importance of maintaining racial purity is a lost culture.

Christ said, “Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and unto God the things that are God’s.”

In context of this discussion, the “render unto Caesar” part refers to a man’s duty to preserve the racial purity of his bloodline.

Jen
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Sign Whitehouse petition to grant White South Africans refugee status in the U.S. They are on the brink of violent genocide!

URL: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/grant-white-south-africans-refugee-status-united-states

#23BoarsToUSA

Help the petition reach its goal, share with others.

Billy Brown
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we should give them nukes

VaronosMinxaouzen
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I am Greek is there a way to sign it?

Jen
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I believe to sign a petition, you only need to provide your name and email address and its not necessary to have a whitehouse.gov account to sign. You will receive an email with a link that you must click to confirm your signature.

VaronosMinxaouzen
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Just did!

K.K.
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“Africa Will Not Save Spengler’s West”

No shit

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