Richard Spencer discusses the failure of the Better Care Reconciliation Act and how it could bring down Trump's presidency.
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The problem with ObamaRomneyHeritageCare is that uses socialism with redistribution from non-lower income healthy folks in its plan to the sick folks. This is very limited as a lot of healthy folks don’t buy coverage, and folks getting coverage via an employer don’t participate. The socialism should be as broadly funded as possible. ORHC also does socialism in the more conventional sense in that lower-income folks get subsidies, and a lot of white patriots are in this lower-income group, so it should not be an issue with the caucasocentric community.
Ann Coulter should be hired to write the new health care plan. She’s the only one advocating a workable affordable plan.
Transcripts or STFU. kthx,
Food isn’t a “right”. Nowhere is a right to food in the constitution. If you are an adult who needs food — grow it, hunt it, or pay for it.
Croatian genius John Kasich was on MSNBC this morning talking up his Medicaid for all program which is guaranteed to bankrupt the USA, or drive taxes to astronomical levels by putting everyone on Medicaid. Kasich intends to pay for his Medicaid for all program by cutting current and future social security payments. Kasich’s slogan must be, rob from the productive who have paid into the system, and give to the unproductive who haven’t paid in.
Like all entitlements programs, it quickly enacts wealth transfer from the productive to the unproductive, with the former being finite and the latter infinite in demand.
Every country that has national health care spends less in terms of GDP than the U.S., and gets better results in terms of life expectancy, etc. A nationalized system is certainly the best way to control costs. The biggest question is whether a public system reduces innovation.
The best way to control costs is zero regulation so that new actors enter the market and displace the entrenched ones.
When a corporation has a patent on a new drug or device, that company has a monopoly on their new product. They can charge whatever they want for it under a system of private insurance. If the government is the insurer, the government has more negotiating power.
Why do you assume that they spend less on health care because the cost of providing it is lowered by national health insurance, rather than assuming that they just control their budgets? They could spend less on health care by defunding health care programs, but for some reason you think they spend less because the cost of health care is made lower by national health insurance.
How does nationalizing health insurance reduce the cost of sending someone to medical school, or the cost of MRI machines?
National health care reduces costs because countries set the price they are willing to pay for drugs, and devices like MRI machines. The national health service says, “This is what we are willing to pay for your pharmaceutical, take it or leave it.” Usually, the country offers a reasonable amount, and the provider is willing to take it. That is why prescription drugs are so much less expensive in Canada than in the U.S., for instance.
Price ceilings lead to shortages. There are prescription drug shortages in Canada:
You will also find that the national health system is also related to demographics of the land. If you have a vast amount of inferior people in your land expect to have a system that is closer to Nigeria than it is to Japan, regardless of how public or privately run the health care is. If America becomes ever more third world it does not matter what magic dirt laws they try pass, services like health care will degrade with time.
…than it is to Japan
Why do you guys always turn this into an IQ issue? It’s a supply and demand issue. All countries with national health care wind up cutting their budgets. It has nothing to do with IQ.
Because idiots can’t run a public health care scheme adequately.
I disagree that the alt-lite has no essence. The alt-lite are grassroots conservatives who figured out that conservatism has no essence.
RIght on, Spencer. McConnell is no leader. Never has been. Moran is an embarrassment to my state. That’s the core problem: the lack of leadership among the GOP and the growing gaps between conservatives and ‘moderate’ Repubs, along with the wild-card Libertarians, isn’t going to heal itself anytime soon. It needs a swift kick in the ass. Time to start lobbying hard or run for those seats when they are up for election.
If people bought private insurance for catastrophic medical care, it would be much cheaper and take care of this problem.
Good idea. But is the insurance is too expensive, as Obamacare is, then it would only serve the interests of wealthy whites, not poor or middle-class whites.
Spencer didn’t say he supports Ayn Randian, libertarian Social Darwinism, just that he understands their position.
No, he says he “respects” her perspective at ‘6:45’. Respect transcends ‘understanding’, it implies admiration or at the least, passive agreement.
Americans overwhelmingly support the wall, immigration crackdowns, and bans on Muslim migration, yet all these faggot cuckservatives care about is muh repeal. They’re more out-of-touch with their base than the democrats are with theirs.
Trump needs to stop shut the fucks down and start building an alternative to the GOP.
The failure of BCRA was honestly a gift; it allows Trump to wipe his
hands of it and blame the LOLBertarian House GOP and pivot to the issues
that actually put him in office.
I agree. He boxed them in: they could either approve a hack of a bill, or own the failure of Obamacare, leaving Trump free to advance his quasi-nationalistic agenda.
There are Forced By-Law Separate Areas at the Western Wall for Jewish Women and Men to Pray…….
The Anti-Feminist Ultra Orthodox CONTROL the Western Wall Activities……
The Jewish Ethno-State is Pro-Immigrant??
JOKE OF THE CENTURY……
Yeah, if you have a Jewish Mother…….
And what the F is a ‘White Supremacist’??
White People who want to Survive and not see Historically White Nations become White Minority??
P.S. (I don’t hate Camille Paglia)…….
These Alt Lite ZioCucks are getting lamer by the minute. “Muh Holocaust Survivor…Take me off the Hate List”.
Glad it failed – glad it is radicalizing many Americans, glad that the rage from this will lead to more chances for us, glad glad glad…
Weak argument, put together to justify an already-decided pro-socialized medicine position. If Trump is a team player on GOP issues, Republicans aren’t going to be antagonized over these issues and, more importantly, will have no pretext to attack Trump.
But, they DO remain America First…….
Pro-Secure the Border…..
Anti-Middle East Warmongering……
God/Something help us all…….
A Zionist/Jewish Supremacist Organization that implicitly supports Ethnic Cleansing Palestine of Arabs……
A Zionist/Jewish Supremacist Organization which has for DECADES Whitewashed COUNTLESS War Crimes against Palestinian Arabs by the Jewish Ethno-State……
A Zionist/Jewish Supremacist Organization which even defended the Jewish Ethno-State when the Zio-Nazis MURDERED the White American Rachel Corrie in Cold Blood……..
They LOVE the Warmonger McCain…….
They have ABSORBED the Anti-Trump Neocon Warmongers…….
But, Pro-Peace Mike Cernovich is on their Hate List……..
Reality is STRANGER than Fiction…….
The ADL makes its money from donations send by scared Jewish grandmothers in Florida.
The more Nazis it produces, the better, especially if they are successful Nazis not basement-dwellers with shotguns and blogspots.
It is a long-standing strategy of leftists to target the more moderate elements of the opposition, apparently to force them to move further left. That destroys the ideological space they occupied. The result is that there is no socially acceptable alternative to cucking-type factions. Of course, that strategy used to work. Today, they are digging their own grave faster.
What’s funny is the Alt Lite is whining about being lumped in with us, the Alt Right. Even the ADL is calling Cerno and his crowd with the derisive moniker of the Alt Lite, now they can’t shake it.
We just laugh at the ADL, Weird Mike goes on some strange rant about ADL Jews trying to kill his family.
Reminds me of one of Glenn Beck’s paranoid rants from the hospital bed after he had ass surgery.
Mike Cernovich is Doxxed……
Being Doxxed with a Wife and Child…….would you want to be put on an ADL Hate List??
I doesn’t really bother me that Mike Cernovich Counter Signals the Alt-Right…….
I understand why he does it…….
The Jewish Question is a Minefield……..
Do I want my Left Arm to be my Right Arm??
I want a Left Arm and a Right Arm…….
How is Mike Cernovich doxxed by the ADL?
He doxxed himself. He’s done Periscopes frequently from his house and at a park in Orange County where he lives.
These Questions about Health Care would be much easier solved……
…..in a Country/Nation-State which was over 95% White European…….
He has nobody to blame but himself.
wat… Where’s the original?
Ben Garrison sent that to me.
Richard meant Medicaid,when he said Medicare.BIG difference between the programs.
I’m sure he did. But, from what I’ve read on altright.com only a handful have a clue about the nature of the debate—even among the political professionals.
One can be denied for Medicaid, so it’s not ‘welfare’ for everyone.
Also, Medicare is not restricted to old age, people who are young and and on SSDI can qualify for, given they have at least 2 years of documented disability.
Right, Social Security Disability is another big part of the problem. Too many people are ending up on “Disability”.
There are income criterion for collecting Medicaid, but, that doesn’t seem to be stopping too many from collecting Medicaid & Chip.
To get denied for Medicaid, you have to make more than 150% of you States poverty level. It’s possible that your relative has another income source besides SSDI?
No, but he lives in KS, which is perpetually in financial crisis.
Many elderly people in assisted living and nursing home facilities are on Medicaid. Either they didn’t have assets, spent their assets on care at the facility or transferred their assets before they entered.
If they do have assets but can’t afford assisted living or nursing home care, the state government will often get title to their house in exchange for providing elder care for the person. When the person dies, the state gets the house.
Which is disgusting to think that one’s ancestral home can be taken by the state…
That’s exactly right.
On another subject, just read online that Charlie Gard was reportedly granted US citizenship. So, come to the US for treatment, live longer, plow through the money that his parents raised and then go on the taxpayer. Lovely. Virtue-signalling by pathetic “conservatives” obsessed with “life.”
This sets a bad precedent. Some guy in Outer Mongolia can’t afford for kidney dialysis and neither the government nor a charity will pay for it, so he’ll die. Bring him over! Culture of Life!
What State or States are doing that?
It depends on the specific situation, and the resources and income of the individual.
True, many disabled people in their 40s, 50s, and even younger live in nursing homes and have to live off Medicaid, as they are denied Medicare and simply cannot afford Obamacare (see my post above)
Well said. I have been forced to vote for the party of white-dilution because of the horrid policies supported by the Republican Party. It’s time for a 3rd party that will work with Democrats on Welfare State issues, but will stand athwart history yelling stop when it comes to immigration and the support of the Zionist imperialism.
There’s some evidence that the Tea Party was not a working class movement at all:
“an actual political lobby that hires lawyers and lobbyists and proposes legislation.”
Somebody with a clue
Trumps been there a SHORT TIME and enemies on all sides and even in his own family … give it time Hipster – ;O)
That is all good – that also takes a lot of political capital – which he has zero left going day to day … this will be a slow war of 8 years … hold on ;O)
Bob you must be over 35. Young ones tend to be rather impatient and pessimistic and view events as never-ending patterns of defeat. The same ecstacy that was expressed when Trump was victorious is likely to turn into vitriolic resentment of epic levels IF he turns out to be a failure in the oval office, esp with regards to policy achievement.
The problem with conservatives, in America at least, is that they conflate class and race and have difficulty distinguishing between the two. It’s as if upper middle class means White, and vice-versa, to these people. This neoliberalism stuff. It smells flimsy and made-up and newish, it doesn’t seem to be authentic or have a real heritage … I think it probably does not exist if you go back before television.
“North Carolina could have become the new Wall Street – but the market
Republicans pretend to believe in wasn’t allowed to “work.”
What do you mean by this Hipster? Please fill me in.
“The bailouts did not help the rich” DERP
Congratulations, you found the one company that was famously saved by bailout from the financial crisis. One company, which will necessarily have executives, who are by definition rich, are not evidence of the notion that TARP generally helped the rich. It is also deeply ironic that your example is an insurance company, which employs mostly non-rich, non-Wall Street people, as an example of the bailout helping rich people.
The average person cared far more about TARP than the other Fed operations because TARP directly transferred wealth from taxpayer to bank. The other operations were part of the Fed mandate, which is a known quantity, and did not involve transfer of money from the taxpayers to the banks.
You are off into paranoia territory when you accuse random strangers of being in the pockets of banks. This is cuckoo.
The debt was pushed out by private companies, they caused the crisis. Stating the obvious truth is evil?
You have an agenda to distract from this massive theft.
If they weren’t going to go bankrupt, they didn’t need a bailout.
Bottom line is multimillionaires received millions more than they would have without the bailout. They were looking at losing their unfunded deferred comp, their stock options and their jobs. The public was forced to buy assets at par that were worth a fraction of that.
You got caught red-handed lying so you changed your tune like any criminal under interrogation.
This article explains the deferred comp issue.
Hipster Racist: You are clearly well-versed and informed on financial and economic issues. I myself am a big reader of history, and thus have improved my geopolitical IQ, however, I am trying to learn more about economics. There are a ton of different economic beliefs floating around in these circles. Are there some materials you would recommend reading on the 2008 issues? Also, I am intrigued by the Marx usury issue. Could you expand on that?
I’ll explain it on my blog if you wish:
Marx was against the private ownership of physical capital but was apparently fine with the private ownership of financial capital – one supposes because he was a Jew, after all.
Yes, the whole reason the financial crisis was handled the way it was was to benefit a handful of top management. These are the people who push for non-white immigrant scabs, enforce diversity policies, preferentially hire non-whites, basically create an anti-white plantation system. So they were rewarded by the system they supported.
Are these companies allowed to use taxpayer money to lobby Congress?
You are a bit psycho. Not in touch with reality.
He makes an argument and you reply with name calling. HR for the win.
Nice try, Mr. Orwell, but I made the arguments while he ignored them and just repeated his unsubstantiated assertions then lost emotional control and went on a name-calling rant against a total stranger (“shameless liar,” “a disgusting communist,” “welfare queen,” a “leech,” and an “immoral freeloader”). He doesn’t know much, and he is unhinged, not capable of being reasoned with. People like him will take down whoever follows him.
Feel free to take up the argument if you wish.
You started this entire “argument” by responding to me, and spouting a torrent of lies. Ten year old lies, to an audience that likely has no idea what you’re doing.
There really is no “argument” here, I’m simply pointing out your lies.
OK, Mr. Know-It-All, explain why there was a strong and uninterrupted V-shaped recovery if the derivatives were really “worthless” and not artificially devaluated.
I got a lot of practice debating with lying Jews who defend financial fraud and use outright deception – as you have been doing in this thread – lots of practice.
I am more shocked at the trillions we have dumped on our underclass.
Subsidies are always stupid, but doubly so when they are paid to inactive portions of the economy.
There is a definite Jew Vibe to Stevens’ website. Good post HR.
I think it’s really important that the fellows in their early 20’s to their early 40’s be involved and given responsibility in any campaign. I never got any responsibility, and neither did any of my friends, until we were in our early 40’s. We should have been running with things in our early 20’s when we had energy, and 16 hour days were nothing. We accomplished a lot, but, we could have accomplished more if we had been given responsibility when we were younger.
We can’t take part in electoral politics unless we have “muh donors”.
The massive fundraising for SPLC vs Anglin shows we can raise money.
I actually think that appeals to whiteness would work. The problem is that the media would shut down such a message. No pro-white candidate would get covered by the media, and the media would refuse to sell air time to such a candidate.
We don’t need “the media” if by that you mean TV and newspapers. We have online. And you may be right, maybe appeals to whiteness will work, maybe it’s time to go the next step. Certainly, even the “civic nationalist” crowd has started to talk about anti-whiteness and “reverse racism” and the like.
You’re going to need big money to organize an effective political lobby. Those lawyers are not cheap.
“where are the new “Trump populists” ready to take over Congress?”
Their whining about Catholics and Monarchists on the interwebz.
You’re just mad I pointed out you’ve never kissed a girl.
That’s kinda Gay, Dude……
And I agree with you most of the time……
lol I’ve had a lot of girlfriends actually. Not that it’s any of your buisiness.
Stop drinking, man.