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Russia Still Waiting For That Evidence At G20

Ah, to be a fly on the wall during President Trump and President Putin’s long-awaited meeting at the G-20 on Friday.  In my mind, it started out with Trump asking some perfunctory questions about “election meddling” in an almost apologetic tone; as if to say, “Sorry, but I am required to ask you about this bullshit.”

It would be a shame if this matter clouded the meeting and our relations with Russia in general.  But based on the body language in the video clips of the meeting, and on Tillerson’s own description, it seems, thankfully, that that is not the case.

Yet clearly our lying press was intent on turning this meeting into an interrogation against Putin for still to be proven charges of “election hacking.”  It is very important to the neocons that we continue to antagonize Russia, due to their ancestral grudge; and it is also important to shitlibs, due to their delusions of stolen elections.

We did get some insight into what transpired at the meeting, though, because the laconic Secretary of State Tillerson held a press conference.  And I’m sure you can guess the main theme of the reporters’ questions.

The following query was asked in several iterations, but Tillerson had the most noteworthy reply to this one:

Mr. Secretary, can you say that President Trump was unequivocal in his view that Russia did interfere with the election? Did he offer to produce any evidence to convince Mr. Putin?

Tillerson responded:

The Russians have asked for proof, and evidence.  I’ll leave that to the intelligence community to address the answer to that question.  And again, I think the President, at this point, he pressed him; and then felt like at this point, how do we go forward?  And I think that was the right place to spend our time, instead of spending a lot to time having a disagreement.  Because everyone knows we have a disagreement.

Tillerson has proved that he is indeed a diplomat in this response.  In so many words, he just said the following: It’s not a matter of Trump producing evidence against Putin on election hacking.  It’s a matter of there is no f*cking evidence.  And no, “Someone said that’s what happened,” is not evidence.  That is what Putin has been trying to explain this whole time, quite cogently.  Putin has calmly asked anyone who will listen, “Where is the hard evidence?”  Yet we don’t hear Putin’s side of the story in our MSM, so you wouldn’t know it.

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Krafty Wurker
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We know that Jew Israel interferes in our American politics. We also know that the Roman Catholic Church and their Pope attempts to interfere in our politics: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cnsnewscom-staff/pope-francis-says-america-has-distorted-vision-world Russia is a minor player compared to the two above.

WR_the_realist
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It is obvious that Israel’s partisans, both Jewish and Zio-Christian, have at least 1000 times as much influence over our elections as Russia does. Yet there’s never a peep in the media about Israel interfering in our elections.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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But Protestant Evangelicals aren’t shills for Israel at all.

Clark Kent
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What is the alt-right’s take on Putin?

Is he pro-white/Western civilization, or is he a shill?
I’ve been assuming the former, but I hardly know anything about Russia.

Mailinated
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Mine? He’s a normal leader with both pros and cons. But all our other leaders are totally, completely degenerated trash that ought to be ovened ASAP, so he gets to look good by comparison.

Crud Bonemeal
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I’d view him as a relatively normal leader by historical standards, who happens to have an incentive structure where he benefits from his country being built up, rather than torn down. So, like, he might be really “corrupt” and amass a truly enormous fortune, that could be considered ill-gotten, but he wants a stronk Russia in which to enjoy that fortune and exercise his power, and that forces him to do positive things like force oligarchs to “tone it down” and stand up to (((the West))). Sometimes he’ll still do bad things of course, like kowtow to non-NWO Jewish factions,… Read more »
craicher
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Good one. One part that can’t be overlooked is the general Russian view of themselves, of history, of religion of culture. As far as I can see, Russians see themselves as a bearer of Europeans civilization in all areas: in science, in arts, in culture, in religion. Furthermore they see themselves as a cohesive European people who rule over non-Europeans (this is very similar to the old America) thus there is an implicit White (or Aryan if you will) element to Russian identity and culture. I’d put my money on it that Putin has internalized the above and is not… Read more »
Baby Shoes
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We’ve got to reposition ourselves back to those old values and send our parasites packing to their state on the Mediterranean.

Vincent Law
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Good take.

Riopel
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He’s neither, he cares mostly for himself and reflexively opposes whatever the US supports, as has every Russian leader since Khrushchev. What is pro or anti-White doesn’t figure into his thinking. He completely demolished the Russian nationalist movement that was flowering under Yeltsin and is widely despised by the far right there. Why he’s so loved by Western rightists is still a mystery, though maybe it has something to do with propaganda emanating from a certain ex-wife of a certain alt right leader.

Crud Bonemeal
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The Alt-Right is not responsible for it, a significant portion of normie cons had switched to being at least mildly pro-Russia by some point in the middle of the Obama years.

That’s why the whole Trump – Russian collusion narrative fell so flat with them, just as it did with us.

Apparently Russian propagandists flipped conservatives using social conservatism memes and shirtless-Putin-posting. Impressive. But they had a lot of help from Obama’s obvious hatred for everything American.

Charles The Hammer
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There is nothing mysterious about why Western rightists admire Putin. He is admired because of his social conservatism, his nationalism (even though it’s definitely not White nationalism), and the fact that he always seems to piss off all of the people that Western rightists hate.

Clark Kent
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My liking of Putin thus far has been for the following reasons: – He looks and acts like a normal white male. he’s masculine, intelligent, direct, and has strong body language – Russians in general are red-pill, so I assume their leader is as well – Russian police crack down on the local feminist movement. Russia is anti-LGBT and cultural marxist. – Russia’s Orthodox Church maintains its spiritual legitimacy, whereas the Church in Western Europe/Canada is either ignored or criticized in our post-modern world – Putin has never said that he wants mass-immigration into Russia as far as I know.… Read more »
Riopel
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“Russians in general are red-pill, so I assume their leader is as well” Depends on how you define redpilled. They certainly aren’t in terms of race, Jews, communism, or WW2. A lot of Russians even pride themselves in not being White. “Russian police crack down on the local feminist movement. Russia is anti-LGBT and cultural marxist.” Yeah that’s one of the few positives. “Russia’s Orthodox Church maintains its spiritual legitimacy, whereas the Church in Western Europe/Canada is either ignored or criticized in our post-modern world” Has the Church ever made a stir over the small matter of some sixty million… Read more »
Baby Shoes
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The White guy thing was imposed on us by Louis Worth to break up our ethnic Catholic neighborhoods. Poles don’t think about being Whites until they land in London or Chicago where that’s the current reality.

Europeans are Aryans and Christians and the ones who don’t fit that mold are non Europeans and that’s all there is to it.

craicher
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The most red pilled people I have ever met on the JQ are Russian, Poles, Ukranians, and other Eastern Europeans. All the Eastern/Central Europeans nations ethnically cleansed the Jews after WWII and there are hardly any left.

That being said every time I go through Moscow I always see Orthodox Jews. The last time I noticed they were talking American English.

Baby Shoes
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How many Slavs were murdered because of the Jews and their pathologies and hatred for their hosts? If they aren’t red pilled about them then no one would be.

Riopel
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“. All the Eastern/Central Europeans nations ethnically cleansed the Jews after WWII and there are hardly any left.’

What? Jews ran the entire security apparatus in Poland after WW2 and the top echelons of power in Russia are infested with jews as well. Poland pumps out holohoax films constantly and Ukraine has the world’s biggest Jewish political center.

Lucy Lipinska
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Poland is indeed run by its “non-existent” Jews. You find them in the Parliament, Government, the media, the universities and on top positions in the church. Most of them have changed their names and pose as greater patriots than the poor ethnic Poles. Those in power now are either Jews who came in Poland with the Red Army or their younger family members. They made an unholy alliance with a bunch of shekel-inspired but soo “patriotic” Poles at the roundtable conference in Magdalenka Anno 1989. Those who were in Poland under the “dictatorship of the proletariat” agreed on that a… Read more »
craicher
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Secret jews hiding under every rock is a bit paranoid don’t you think? Fact is that once the native peoples took over communism the Jews fled only to plant their poisonous seed in the West.

Jews fear all types of White collectivism from Medieval Christianity to collectivist communism to fascism. They want their host alienated and weak so that he cannot get rid of the parasite that is sucking his blood.

In countries where native White collectivism is strong such as Belarus the Jew has little chance to prey upon the people.

Lucy Lipinska
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On what sources to you base your opinionh that all Jews fled from Eastern Europe? As I already said, the Holocaust gospel wouldn’t have been as successful if the world knew that a big number of Jews survived the war. They were anyway many enough to be able to keep the power in Eastern Europe, after turning their coats- and at the same time intensify the agenda of soft communism in the West. When my sister at first gave me some material on this topic, I waved her off as a person hit by paranoia. As I retired (in 2014… Read more »
craicher
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I won’t argue with your personal experience. Interesting to say the least.

craicher
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Ok then how many Jews live in Poland today?

The last I read it was less than 10,000.

Do you not know what happened under communism once the native people took it over? The mass exodus in the 70’s? Read up and go out and live before you write stupid things.

Have you ever been there? I was there last week.

Lucy Lipinska
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The gospel of Holocaust, neither the myth of the Polish antisemitsm after WWII, hardly would be able to flourish if the world knew that so many Jews actually have survived – and that frpm all of the survivers left Poland in 1968, allegedly escaping the Polish antisemitism. What people in Western countries are kept ignorant about is that, those Jews who left Poland in 1968 had other reasons to leave, such as internal fights within the communist party- between Jewish communists (people of the book, Pulawianie) and ethnic Polish communists (chamy/yokels).

craicher
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One of them, can’t think of his name now, something like Sliberski, sits on Sweden’s Supreme Court (Hogsta Domstol).

Lucy Lipinska
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Leif Silberski is Sweden’s most prominent attorney/counsellor; very old now but has yet not retired. Difficult to say who is Jewish, as Silbersky actually is one of the few who didn’t change his surname (his first name is strikingly Swedish). Sweden’s Jews (with Swedish or German sounding names) are before all to be found in the mass media, but they are surprisingly many (regarding their official number) lawyers and medical doctors. Isabella Lövin is the only one among the top politicians of today; she is the leader of Miljopartiet (the Green) that is governing along with the Socialdemocrats. The former… Read more »
craicher
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Reinfelt is also part America Black. Look up n.word kungen reinfelt.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yes, there were some prominent East Bloc Jews like Markus “Mischa” Wolf who ran the foreign arm of the Stasi. But there are very few Jews in Central and Eastern European and this commenter is woefully uninformed.

Lucy Lipinska
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Adam Michnik – aka Aaron Szechter- is since 1989 controlling Poland’s tone giving paper, Gazeta Wyborcza, and the most prominent magazine, Agora. According to Polish alternative media, both are today at the brink of bancrupcy. All of Poland’s communist party leaders and – later on – presidents had Jewish background. President Alexander Kwasniewski (Stolzman) actually did not dare to carry out what president Lech Kaczynski (Kalkstein) did, making B’nai B’rith Polin legal again, in 2007. (Kaczynski died in the aircrash over Smolensk.)

Baby Shoes
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Even if there’s only 1 that’s too many and could cause irreparable damage to the countries in which they reside.

Marathon-Youth
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Putin came to office in 2000. He has met President Clinton, President Bush and President Obama. Putin has faced bad to hostile policies of all 3 Presidents, especially from Obama. Under President Obama we sanctioned Russia over the Ukraine even though we are the ones who ousted a pro Russian leader in Kiev and replaced him with a pro NATO leader prompting Putin to retaliate. That led to the Crimea seceding to Russia. Our sanctions led to counter sanctions by Russia which hit Europe and her markets which were heavily dependent on trade with Russia. Russia took steps to find… Read more »