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Traditional Christianity Is Making A Comeback In France

Submitted by Szellem

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One of the things that I see all too frequently on dissident sites is a strong distaste for Christianity in and of itself. As the Alt-Right picks up momentum, however, it will become ever more crucial to make sure we don’t push all Christians away.

Now before you skip to the bottom and write an angry comment, hear me out.

I’m a French-American based in Northern France, I moved here about two years ago from the United States and have had the perverse pleasure of watching the country accelerate toward the edge of the cliff. But one of the things I was surprised to find here is a thriving and growing reactionary movement. And I mean reactionary in its original political sense, I’m talking about people reacting against the French Revolution (which I’m sure most of us can agree was a rather negative turning point in the history of the West).

I’m talking about people well to the right of Marine Le Pen and her party and even to the right of her niece, Marion Maréchal-Le Pen. Who are these people? Well, they’re Traditionalist Catholics. When the Catholic Church decided to go full leftist during the Vatican 2 Council in the Sixties, a certain French Archbishop (Marcel Lefebvre) decided to hold back the night and to continue celebrating the Mass as the Church has done for over a thousand years.

To make an exceedingly long story short, he found a lot of success in France, Switzerland, and, surprising, Germany. His fraternity, the Fraternity of Saint Pius X currently rests in a state of semi-communion with the Holy See itself because the Fraternity is just too conservative for the ruling set in Rome right now.

Even within the Church various traditionalist movements have taken root and are growing at a fast clip (almost entirely in Europe and the USA). Organizations like the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter, the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, etc. The Catholic Church is an inherently reactionary organization that got co-opted by liberals in the 60s, but there are those of us working to take it back.

But in France, Catholic Traditionalism goes beyond the Church.

One thing that needs to be understood about traditionalism as a Catholic movement in France, is that these people don’t want to just go back to the old Mass and teachings of the Church. They want it ALL back; they want France as she existed before the Revolution. And, yes, that means a France made up of French people, or rather a France made up of the different regional ethnicities. Catholic Traditionalism in France is also very regionalist and the schools they run tend to have a high focus on regional traditions, especially in regions with a particularly unique culture (Basque country, Brittany, etc).

Further, their schools are among the few places safe from Republican indoctrination, as they are all hors contrat (meaning the state pays them nothing, but in return, the school controls their own curriculum). These schools continue to grow at an incredible rate with new ones opening practically yearly.

Why?

Because Traditionalist Catholics are one of, if not the, most fecund groups in all of France. As they tend to marry young and place a high emphasis on bearing kids, one can expect these families to have upward of eight or nine children. I’m not even kidding, this is the norm in many Traditionalist communities.

This is possible because Feminism has been thoroughly and completely crushed within Catholic Traditionalism. Girls and boys are educated differently and the expectations are very, well, traditional. Women have an important and respected role to play in this society and it is the role of caregiver and mother.

And it is from this Traditionalist stock that a very large portion of Génération Identitaire is formed (probably the majority in France, I can’t speak for Austria and Germany). ‘Trads’ can also be found in organizations like Deus Vult (yes that is a real organization in France) and older, more storied ones like Action Française.

These people are strong, faithful, and perhaps most importantly, fecund Catholics that believe in a France for the French and a return to traditional values.

And that’s the thing, traditional French culture IS Catholic culture. There is no way around it. As much as certain poorly educated Youtube demagogues might go on about how the true European culture is pagan… well, that’s just not the case in France. We have no connection to that part of our history and, as evidenced by our language, our culture pretty much starts with the Roman occupation and Christianity followed hot on its heels.

All the great works of art, literature, architecture, music, conquest, etc. that came from France, came from a Catholic France.  This is what they want to protect and return to, the dark abyss that is pre-Roman Gaul has very little to offer us.

These Catholics are not backing down and they are constantly growing in number. Already they can easily pull tens of thousands for their major pilgrimages in the summer and their dozens of schools are producing strong, proud Frenchmen with an idea of who they are.

Traditional Catholicism in the future of Christianity in France and it is a far cry from the lukewarm hugs and feels Christianity like that which brought Somalis to Minneapolis or hangs Pride flags on the steeple. The Alt-Right and reaction, in general, is succeeding in France like nowhere else.

The biggest risk is an unnecessary internal divide over religion.

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John XVX
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Good article Sir. What France needs is to go back to its traditional Catholic roots. It’s the only way out of this mess. The alt-right is an American movement. It is about time you people stop giving importance to the opinion of the anglosphere at large, it won’t lead anywhere. You have a very rich Catholic history and you don’t need the anglosphere. France is not part of the anglosphere. ”White nationalism” is a big joke and ultimately it means the death of all the traditional nations of Europe who are forcefully put together under the banner of ”Whiteness”. No… Read more »
Kernelp
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MICHAEL J. F. MCCARTHY “The Priests and People in Ireland” “Protestantism in Ireland, as in all North Europe and North America, enjoys what it possesses by sheer dint of industry, ability, and good living. Those qualities are the dominant note of Protestantism everywhere.” “And to that greatest of lands, that product of a pinch of Puritanic seed wafted across the Atlantic in the Mayflower, and now extending from ocean to ocean, until it embraces every clime and is hospitable to every race, how literally may the parable, enunciated long ago in His voice, be applied to-day ! The United States… Read more »
Kernelp
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>Good article Sir. What France needs is to go back to its traditional Catholic roots.< All popery has ever produced is banana republics, Thomas Babington Macaulay "From the time when the barbarians overran the Western Empire to the time of the revival of letters, the influence of the Church of Rome had been generally favorable to science, to civilization, and to good government. But, during the last three centuries, to stunt the growth of the human mind has been her chief object. Throughout Christendom, whatever advance has been made in knowledge, in freedom, in wealth, and in the arts of… Read more »
Kernelp
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Perhaps you are not aware of the work of the catholic ecclesiastical institution in France. My ancestors were Huguenots as were my wife’s. In addition to other massacres of innocent women, children and old people there was the St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre on 24 August 1572. Fifty thousand Huguenots were massacred. Our ancestors who lived though the massacre were driven out of France with the last escaping after the Edict of Nantes was revoked by wicked Louis XIV in 1685.

No, the return of popery to France is not good.

Shrek6
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It is refreshing to finally see something like this appearing on the internet. There are so many prophecies about the Faith renewal of France, that I think it is high time you all started taking note. You must however, stay well clear of the Vatican, which to this very day has had 6 Antipopes sitting in the Seat of Peter and is owned by the Freemasons. Plus you must stay away from the SSPX, because they are heretics and schismatics. Also this French Archbishop (Marcel Lefebvre) is a criminal of the Faith. He was a schismatic and led far too… Read more »
ن Max Kolbe
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The altright’s survival depends on its ability to find a way to get along with serious Christians. At the momenet, they’re so contemptuous of us it’s hard to tell the difference between them and the Muslims long-term at times; both hate us, both want us destroyed or at least treated with contempt. It doesn’t add much to confidence.

Mario Vratarić
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As a former catholic for 37yrs turned current atheist, I will always jab at the Christ cucks but I welcome all prowhites, Christian or pagan.

Virtual Remover
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Oh yeah? Well, I’ve read all of Nietzche and Evola, AND I have an Internet connection I use to type out long-winded screeds like a trve hyperborean. Checkmate, Christcucks.

Dominique Nuit
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It seems that Les Brigandes are members of an esoteric & anti-Christian cult. That they are not in fact Traditionalist Catholics. Even if the allegations about Les Brigandes are true, however, I think that much can be gleaned from the group’s music & videos . . . . Les Brigandes communicate an understanding of Christianity which is (1) ethnocentric; (2) informed by and re-injected with the vigor of the pagan past; (3) closely connected to the land (in their case, a sacralized France); and, most important, (4) able to move the heart and lift the soul. It is this fourth… Read more »
Dominique Nuit
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Excerpt from a letter I had meant to give to a priest . . . . “I learned from a French friend with whom I had enthusiastically shared their videos that Les Brigandes are most likely members of an esoteric & anti-Christian cult. It is news that I do not want to believe. Even if the allegations about Les Brigandes are true, however, I think that much can be gleaned from the group’s music & videos, that false & deceitful motivation does not preclude the truth of the artistic-religious statement. “Les Brigandes, to my mind, communicate an understanding of Christianity… Read more »
bruno giordani
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Pope Francis, is in fact Pope Mohammed. It is that easy.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Hutton Gibson called Pope John Paul II “Garrulous Karolus the Koran Kisser.”

civiman
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Do these reactionary communities have clergy that are openly on the same page as them, particularly on the France for the French issue?

TK
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No idea why any of you think the revival of a Semitic religion will save Europe. Somewhere in Valhalla right now, Nietzsche is saying, “What a bunch of fags.”

Zyzz
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Are there any traditionalist catholic organizations/schools in America?

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Ghostslider
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If you guys really cared about Hitler and his movement, instead of appropriating them as a pretext for this sham, you would represent him as a pantheist, not as a Christian. Richard Carrier’s English translation of Feb. 27, 1942 entry from Picker’s version of the Table Talk is falsified, “this idea” substituting “dieser Sache”, or “this thing”. Carrier even insinuates that Hitler wished for the “expediency of his own Nazi-enforced Social Darwinism”, which is absolute rubbish. “The law of life: Defend yourself” is connected with the following axiom, what is called the law/theory of life: “God helps him who helps… Read more »
ChippyMcBarkles
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the rise in atheism and Nietzsche being able to say God is dead was not born of some discovery it simply was because the church became too weak to put people to death who spoke against it. Christianity is irrelevant at this point outside of commie Francis fueling the acceleration of European implosion

Maple Curtain
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The anti-Christ-ians have no centre, and will, eventually, fall into line once the Church is re-built by the faithful, in whichever form that takes.

LARPing about wolf spirits making the West or some such nonsense will not carry the day.

Crud Bonemeal
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good luck with your efforts to rebuild the church, keep us updated

Also, let us know if / when it comes up with a pro-white take on the race issue

Heinrich
Guest

As a former Traditionalist Catholic, is simply cannot bring myself to believe in it anymore. It is a great potential unifying spiritual force for the Alt-Right, and was the religion of Europe during much of European advancement in art, architecture, science, philosophy etc. And it defended Europe against Islam for hundreds of years. However there is simply no reason to believe in its spiritual claims. Not to mention, Catholicism is inherently universalistic.

Evolver1
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Do an internet search for a photo of Michael Curry, the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, all you who are trying to shove Christianity down our throats, and tell us this is good for Whites. And, it is not much different in the Catholic church or many others as well.

You put religion before the White genome. This is evil.

One Man's Chorus
Guest

Better than shoving DNA and IQ down our throats, as if white people are expected to unite on that basis.

TK
Guest

Yes, the obvious answer is to unite around a patently fraudulent mythology that was invented by a Jew. That’s the ticket!

Evolver1
Guest

You don’t want Whites to unite AS Whites? How silly.

Evolver1
Guest

And, I never said we should unite on IQ. However, Whites must unite on RACE (which is the same as our DNA code that makes us Whites).

One Man's Chorus
Guest

Why should Englishmen care about the DNA of Slovakians?

Johnny Fascismo
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But muh Race and IQ statistics!

Mihel
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all you who are trying to shove Christianity down our throats

Stop living in the first century please.

Evolver1
Guest

You’re okay with Blacks in charge of formerly White churches? Hmmm. So, White Christians worship a dead Jew and their church is headed by a Black. Something not right with that.

Quentin Ackerman
Guest

Putting disagreement over religion before the white race is just as bad. If you don’t like Christianity, don’t be a Christian. If a red-pilled white person is Christian (or Asatruar, or atheist, or whatever) that’s none of anyone else’s business or concern, and equating an alt-right Christian with the worst leftist examples from churches that are only nominally Christian is stupid. No punching to the right.

Evolver1
Guest

Okay, so let’s see where you stand: You have a chance to save 20 Black Christians from a sinking boat or just 1 White pagan or atheist. Who do you save? And, Mihel can also answer this if he or she wishes.

Quentin Ackerman
Guest

That’s not a stumper, obviously I would save the white pagan or atheist. That also has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made, which is that we shouldn’t let disagreements over religion divide us.

Evolver1
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My point is similar to yours, however, you don’t go far enough. You say “we shouldn’t let disagreements over religion divide us.” I would add…unless the religious views are harmful to Whites.

Quentin Ackerman
Guest

The alt-right isn’t a religious movement, it’s a movement for the promotion of white identity and the preservation of white people. As long as you aren’t among the (((Chosen People))) or involved in a religion that encourages female genital mutilation and honor killings, your religion should be your business and folks on the alt-right shouldn’t be attacking each other over religion. Period.

Evolver1
Guest

The problem is with those who put their religion (which you can change as easily as changing socks) over the White genome which is essential to our identity and which we are born with. The White genome must always be first and everything else secondary. We can lose our religion and still be us, but we cannot lose our White genome and still be us.

Quentin Ackerman
Guest

You’re not wrong, but the assumption that alt-right Christians put their faith before their people is flawed. For most alt-right Christians, their faith and their people go hand in hand and are complementary.

Evolver1
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Okay. I hope you’re right.

AffanGul
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Alt-Righters listen to yourselves. I KNOW that White Nationalism is the priority for most of you. I KNOW that most Christian Churches are cucked out shells of squishy liberalism. The point here is not to expect the mainstream churches to support or join us, but for US to SUBVERT THEM, or else start our OWN Christian Religious Org and use it for OUR OWN ends. We require a much higher degree of FASCIST UNITY in order to be effective. White Power Nazism is a DEAD END. World War 2 is STILL WITHIN LIVING MEMORY! The mainstream will never accept you… Read more »
Hipster Racist
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So drop the “fascist” LARPing then – why even bring up “fascism” – it’s stupid.

“Identitarian” is a good label, and seems to work in Europe, but “Alt Right” won out in America. So, fine.

bobbert
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I though this was the single most critical failing of le pen and FN. She pushed a hard secularist agenda and socialist policies to appeal to disillusioned communists. That was a colossal mistake. There is no secularist future for France, as there is no future in secularism. France will be catholic, or it will the french will become islamic. (I wager that your traditionalists know what I did there.) I hope that you are correct on all that you report. I pray that these people can grow in number and in time. Europe needs the holy mother church, and the… Read more »
Rhino 🦏🥛🐸
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What we must do is refuse the label of “Christian” to the non-traditional churches.

Flavius
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In my opinion, relying on Christianity is not a solution. Christianity
has a deadly weakness: its core supernatural claims are not believable
and without them, Christianity cannot exist in any meaningful, useful
way. Because of that, even an explicitly racialist form of Christianity
would be dangerous and
counter-productive. Once its supernatural
claims are inevitably debunked, they would most likely also compromise
the racial solidarity for which that racialist Christianity provided
support.

Maple Curtain
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thanks, God.

One Man's Chorus
Guest

If Europeans abandon Christianity, then they can’t really love their civilization, since Europeans only became a civilization through the conversion of pagans to Christianity. If Christianity is a lie, then the West is a lie.

If the alt-right is devoted to preserving white skin, then why shouldn’t we preserve white skin outside of Europe and its colonies, since there is really nothing uniting Europeans as a civilization?

Crud Bonemeal
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Race is real and it matters. Race is not just skin color, human population groups vary in many traits. Most notably population groups vary in terms of behavioral traits, such as IQ and personality.

And so, while there are certainly real and measurable differences between them, Europeans share behavioral and biological similarities, NOT simply a belief in some stories from Sunday school.

One Man's Chorus
Guest

Race is real, but it’s not the basis of a civilization. Why would people feel a connection to others based on DNA and IQ? Why should Norwegians care about the DNA, IQ and behavioral similarity of Poles?

Scotcho Rouleau
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As a Catholic of both Irish and French stock, this article makes me proud. The Catholic Church is simply beyond impeachment with respect to western civilization. Who were the Crusaders? Catholics. Roman Catholicism is the original church as Jesus himself founded it. Enough of that, though.

If anyone wants to see true shitlord in-your-face altright traditional western civ pride, search for Civitas France on YouTube. Just watch what this author is referring to. This is the real White Shariah.

AffanGul
Guest
Christian Nationalism is honestly the ONLY flavor of reaction that can EVER make inroads toward a majority. In America, in Europe, in Australia, in the West generally. Paganism is too much associated with and connected to Nazism and “New Age” Culture to ever be taken seriously. Sure I’m in favor of a few swastikas and Nordic Runes to scare the shit out of Hippies with, but beyond that, Christian Nationalism is the default Third Position. The ancient networks, the physical plant and resources, the institutional memory all point to Christian Identity as the ultimate defender of Western Values. Cucked Christian… Read more »
Crud Bonemeal
Guest

Christianity in the Yankee areas of the US is IMHO unlikely to prove a suitable basis for nationalism, it’s just too perverted, and has been leftist for too long. There are no traditionalist Evolian Christian fascists here, or whatever you’re looking for. More like Christian Utopian Socialist Egalitarian Feminist Abolitionists.

It’s more likely that normal non-religious / culturally christian would band together under principles of common sense and pragmatism, in opposition to both the left and next generation of Evangelical hard-cucks and their legions of African janissaries.

WR_the_realist
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I’m an agnostic but I’ve never been anti-Christian. I lack faith, but if you believe the Gospels are an accurate description of what happened 2000 years ago you have little choice but to be a Christian. As for Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, I hope he’s the next pope, although I realize the odds of that are near zero.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Marcel Lefebvre is dead. Our best hope is Sainthood for St Marcel.

However, Richard Williamson illustrates God’s grace. Our wildest dreams for the papacy are for an English Pope (!!!!!!!!) Richard Williamson.

Hail Pope Richard I !!!

WR_the_realist
Guest

Thank you for the correction. Sainthood it will have to be.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Just like with St. Fray Junipero Serra.

ChippyMcBarkles
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here is a little more explanation about the trad Catholics, they are really sedevacanistas… people who say the seat is empty, the seat being the papal throne. thus they do not recognize the authority of the Pope… mainly because of the changes made in the church after the last conclave which they called Vatican II, a meeting of all the bishops to set church law. the year was sometime in the early 1960’s. one big change was that latin was no longer to be used in worship with the common parishioners, less discussed today is that the church basically released… Read more »
Johnny Fascismo
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Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Trad Catholics are strong. There is a weekly Latin Mass at my small town Catholic church where I live. If there is a need for Latin Mass in a tiny Parish hours from any urban area, then I’m sure there are Latin masses all over America and Europe.

ChippyMcBarkles
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when i used to go to Church if i was traveling and stopped in some small town like in South Dakota i would see that the churches were full of people. if i went to the cathedral in St Paul by where i live sometimes it would be nearly empty. the Catholics abandoned the inner cities in st paul and Minneapolis now for the twin cities we have Mogadishu and Saigon. I dont bame it on Vatican II however and now I am more of a Satanist than Catholic, I just see Catholicism as some messed up curse I was… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Don’t condemn Christians. It is politically retarded.

Anyways, I always thought South Dakota was full of German Lutherans.

ChippyMcBarkles
Guest

the problem is that my ancestors should have left the rosary beads at the door when they got to this country… the whole letting Catholics into the USA was the forerunning to the jew coming in who in turn were the forerunners of the shitskins coming in today

Krafty Wurker
Guest

Exactly, the Roman Catholics broke down our White Protestant defenses. They are a Mediterranean cult.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Not this shit where the Irish and Bavarians led to Jews…GTFO…total bullshit.

Krafty Wurker
Guest

The CSU, the Bavarian Roman Catholic political party is Angela Merkel’s political party!

Mihel
Guest

CSU is inter-confessional and Angela Merkel is a Lutheran.
So much for your Mediterranean cult paranoia.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Not only that, Merkel’s father was a Lutheran Pastor! Krafty Wurker is a mentally defective moron, but it can be quite fun and amusing to rustle his jimmies.

GermanEngineered
Guest
I’m AR, but I’m also a Lutheran Christian. I don’t see any conflict with being AR and being a Lutheran. All men are created equal – that’s what I believe. But, equal does not mean the same. Me choosing to want a white ethno state does not conflict with my beliefs and if it does, someone will have to explain why that is and I’ll leave the AR if you can convince me. In fact, if there is any connection between my religious beliefs and the AR, it is a positive association. By returning people to their proper homeland, I… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

LC Missouri Synod?

Avi Marranazo
Guest

I feel it’s a key component in the Identitarian movement. Part of the reason we don’t fight back the invaders in Europe is that all the elements of our identities have been delegitimized and pathologized, including our religion.

Daedra
Guest

Vote up if you think white Christians and Atheists need to be both welcomed and tolerated in the Alt Right. Survival is more important to us than a ideological schism which makes us all weak. The brown people are allied together with the Jews to destroy us, they speak about it openly in the streets, division would be beyond stupidity at this point.

Terry Mahoney
Guest
I was raised a catholic. Around the age of 15 I began to become an Anti-theist. I am now 35 and for the last year or two I have felt a compulsion towards going back to Christianity. Something I never thought would happen. As a National Socialist I have become more and more sickened by the degenerate state society has found itself in. Catholicism and Christianity have warned humanity about the rise of this degeneracy. But I see the Catholic church and the pope as a sellout to Marxist ideologies, so I could never fully return to becoming a full… Read more »
Mihel
Guest

Christians don’t need to be “welcomed” to the alt-right, they are not guests or newcomers, they were there from the beginning.

Ike35
Guest

What’s most important is the survival of White Europeans both in Europe and in the diasporas, so if it’s the case that in some regions, believing in a foreign semite desert religion helps facilitate that survival, I’ll bite my lip for the good of the cause. I just hope they don’t actually read their bibles, otherwise we’ll be in another world of sheeeit! Ya know, “the meek shall inherit the earth.” Actually no, the meek will be steamrolled.

Riopel
Guest

So where’s the evidence that traditional Christianity is making a comeback in France?

Syd
Guest
I’m an Odinist and hate Christianity, it’s a semetic aberration that unfortunately took root in Europe. That said, Christianity for better or worse is an intrinsic part of European culture especially in the non-protestant ones and can be used to fight Islam, all Europeans should unite against Islam and sort out our divisions after. Traditional Catholicism is probably on the rise in France in reaction to islamisation. The author is correct, I lived in France and traditional French culture is nominally Catholic and the French have minimal interest in their pagan past, although in my experience most French people are… Read more »
One Man's Chorus
Guest

What’s the alternative to Christianity? A male fraternal order?

Crud Bonemeal
Guest

One alternative is just believing in stuff that there is evidence for

Syd
Guest

Something that doesn’t worship some prehistoric jew who walked on water

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

“that said, Christianity for better or worse is an intrinsic part of European culture especially in the ORTHODOX ones”

Fixed for you. Protestantism and Catholicism are collapsing all over the White world.

Syd
Guest

Point taken, but paganism is stronger in protestant northern Europe, that’s my interest. I’m an anglo saxon

Syd
Guest

True, but when the wogs desecrate cathedrals and murder priests it’s an attack on all of us and as I stated I hate Christianity

smcnallen
Guest

Syd, I am Asatru and I quite agree. There is plenty of precedent – Holger Danske fighting alongside Charlemagne at Tours…and plenty of soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who wear Thor’s hammer amulets around their necks. Blood is what matters. I will fight alongside Christians, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, whatever…for our holy race.

stavros
Guest

Good post.

Syd
Guest

Your hearts in the right place

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Agree. It’s really sad. Even a wise Muslim like Ataturk could see the beauty in preserving European Christian churches. This is why you’re right, we need to stop attacking Christians and utterly put our enemies under the yoke.

Syd
Guest

Kith and kin first!

ChippyMcBarkles
Guest

well I would like to join you and learn how to parlay but some of us are not rich trust fund babies

richard garyson
Guest
I am a Christian, myself. When I hear people within the Alt Right criticize my faith, I feel like a parent listening to my neighbor berate my son for hitting a baseball through his window. I don’t like hearing my child be criticized, but at the the same time, I have a hard time responding to the criticism, because the criticism is coming from a legitimate grievance, not malice. There is no question that the church is cucked, and this is includes the conservative denominations, just as much as it does the liberal ones. Whether it is focusing on building… Read more »
AffanGul
Guest

I fully sympathize richard garyson. I look at the problem this way, and I see an opportunity. Agreed that most denominations are cucked. Agreed that you can be simultaneously Christian and Identitarian. What needs to happen is that all of the various tribes need to form their individual cohorts around their OWN identities, then unite under one single Right-Wing and Christian Phalanx. There is room for an Atheist Battalion, a Pagan Battalion, an Evangelical Division, a Catholic Corps, an Orthodox Division, and Anglican Battalion, etc. etc. Keep your Identity and March United under One Banner. E Pluribus Unum.

Hipster Racist
Guest

Let us know when James Edwards is trolling pro-white message forums and denouncing imaginary “pagans” and otherwise going out of his way to attack people who don’t follow his specific religious denomination.

These Catholics spend half their time attacking other Christians, even.

Arthur Vickstrom
Guest

I’m not a Christian myself but I can sympathize with your position.

Now we Alt Right Christians have to figure out how to red pill our brethren.

Have you looked into Kinist Christianity? https://www.facebook.com/christiankinism/

It is a Christian movement based in America which is very redpilled and it seems to be growing fast. I think it’d be much easier for redpilled Christians to establish their own Kinist churches rather than attempt to retake control of the cucked churches.

AffanGul
Guest

spot ON Arthur Vickstrom. Spot ON!

Jonathan Doe
Guest
Traditional Catholicism is done for. Theologically, it makes no sense. To be a Catholic, one must have the Catholic faith of the ages, and submit to the Catholic hierarchy based in Rome. The Catholic hierarchy jettisoned the old Catholic faith at Vatican II, and are never going to reverse this. One must choose, the Catholic Faith, or obedience to Catholic hierarchy, which includes the Popes and all bishops with ordinary jurisdiction. Catholic theology does not allow for such a situation. Traditional Catholics are stuck, like Russian Orthodox bezpopovtsy Old Believers, spending centuries in “end times” to make theological sense of… Read more »
ThomasER916
Guest

The Alt Right cares about Christianity because it cares about White history, White culture, White people, and White solidarity. When Christianity promotes miscegenation, cuckoldry, Turd World immigration, and servitude to POCs then that Cucktianity needs to die. It’s as simple as that. Any White that supports or defends Cucktianity is our enemy. They need to be cast out into the shit-stained world. Let them save it while they drown in it.

Syd
Guest

European pagan religions are ethnocentric when practiced properly, they’re our indigenous beliefs and suit our inate character

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest
I offer a caveat to your post. WESTERN Christianity = Cucktianity. Even the Society of St Pius X (SSPX) which the Author cited as “traditional” expelled Bishop Richard Williamson for questioning the existence of Holocaust gas chambers. The problems you describe are unique to Western Christianity and don’t apply to Eastern Orthodoxy. But since Eastern Orthodox churches are sui generis, it is unreasonable to expect Russian or Serbian Orthodoxy which are national churches developed in an ethnic homeland to spread beyond their native populations. The death of Western Christianity is a fait accompli. If religion makes a comeback with White… Read more »
Ken31
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Completely agree with Eastern Orthodox. If there is a true Christian faith, they are it.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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But Only the Orthodox Churches in Europe. Orthodox Churches outside Europe are Cucked. That fag Rod Dreher is Orthodox Christian. Western Europeans and Americans can’t just copy the National Orthodox Christian churches that work in Bulgaria or Russia. Western European and American Christians need to find their own answers. For example, Mormonism in America.

Syd
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Orthodoxy is certainly preferable to papism

Walter Oleg
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“But we should not condemn believing Christians, we need to focus on our enemies without alienating potential recruits to White Advocacy.” (Yehudah Finkelstein) Exactly. If you’re Alt-Right and don’t like Christianity, then don’t go to church or read the bible. Attacking Christianity is stupid politically. With that said it wouldn’t surprise me if the Vatican turned around and at least became semi-nationalist in Europe. This is the oldest organization in the world and does pay attention to the way the winds blow. The Vatican will never be White Nationalist, but there’s nothing unchristian about supporting national communities. The Catholic Church… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
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What Cardinal from Austria? Schönborn? Pope Francis is not that old and will probably be sucking wind while spewing out Jesuit subversion for the next decade.

The Catholics expel anyone who deviates from the Judeo-Globalist norms, look at Bishop Williamson.

Will Windsor
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there’s no going back, only forward. Trad Caths can bring the Archaic to Archeofuturism.

From Ohio
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Expel the darkies, restore the king! Then France will truly be France again.

Syd
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All in one!

Bob
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The AlT Right must be about culture, Identity, Pan Euro Nationalism and our future – where YOU go to “church” should be up to YOU – and all sides need to let that be it – or we will fight ourselves into the ground for the 10,000 th time …

Gatzke
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Pan Euro Nationalism- like what the blue flag and gold stars represent- Omi referred to it as a the United States of Europa project or experiment. And Now, it is what is being destroyed because too many have and are discovering diversity is not all its cracked up to be.. Pan Euro anything is highly unlikely. Regionalism is more likely to happen because it usually does, and has in the past. The cross will be the glue I suspect.

Bob
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We were 1/3 the earth only 100 years ago, we also owned 80% of the earth, our commerce was the ONLY commerce… you better get used to the idea of PAN EURO EMPIRE or you and all that you love one day sooner than later will die. The Right in the EU are taking 100% the wrong road – they should be for the EU – but only to take it over – rewrite all the rules and then have a MAGA strong base to clear out the EU States – ONLY a State has this type of power –… Read more »
smcnallen
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As a pagan of 45 years, I completely agree. I will fight alongside any man or woman for the future of our race, regardless of faith or lack thereof. Follow individual conscience in religion, and let’s kick some butt on our mutual foes.

Bob
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Yes. The Alt Right must be libertarian when it comes to ‘church’ or we will never get off the ground – I do not kind what kind of God crazy you’ze is, what i want to know is – do you have a good trigger finger …

Gatzke
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The Gary Johnson or CATO brand?

Bob
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I called it Libertarian Fascism – total freedom with the laws of a strong Volk – but the Volk before the individual.

Johnny Fascismo
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“Libertarian Fascism” isn’t a real thing, and the two worldviews are completely incompatible.

Christianity is a part of European culture, and if you want to preserve European culture then preserving Christianity is part of that, regardless of how you feel about the Church. Personally I think practicing Christianity should be optional, but the Church should be respected as an important part of the community. If we lose the spiritual foundation of European culture then all whites are is materialistic, hedonistic degenerates, who I barely care to save.

Bob
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“Libertarian Fascism” isn’t a real thing – Yes, very true. That is why i gave it a definition – so that people could under stand the general outline. This is a new idea that can work – if you keep it within the way i set it. As for Christianity – it must be kept as a general cultural standard – yes. As for Whites not wanting to save there culture … not true. They are placed in a situation that is not good – the the EU if you stand up and fight back, you lose your job, your… Read more »
Evolver1
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Sounds good on the surface…but what about churches that do not put Whiteness first and which go out of their way to attack Whites as racists and which not only condone but happily accept just about everything that can harm Whites (homosexuality, transgenderism, abortions, etc.)?

FredAGunter
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Organize, Infiltrate -expose hypocrisy with pertinent questions.

Bob
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That is the JBS idea – was in the JBS most of my early years – Debating never got us any place… just saying. (JBS = John Birch Soc).

Bob
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burn them – any questions class?

Tyron Parsons
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To even argue over the truth of authentic Christianity with those who refuse to believe is completely fruitless.

Why?

It’s like trying to argue that altho it’s night (like it is right now) the sun will come and a new day will dawn (authentic Xianity saves Europe and establishes whites/Europeans as the true 12 tribes back in control of the World.)

It will be done because it’s the prime creator/savior’s will as outlined and revealed to us in his Greek Scriptural narrative as to the fate of his people (us) and this planet (which he owns).

Yehudah Finkelstein
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The article is long on rhetoric and short on any proof that Traditional Catholicism is coming back in a big way in France.

The SSPX still expelled Bishop Williamson. Western churches have this habit of trying to apologize for EVERYTHING. That does not happen with the Eastern Orthodox Churches.

Been_There_Done_That
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There is only one true, holy, Catholic and apostolic church. And it is the only true church of a Western, reactionary future. It is where it all began..from the rock of St. Peter. The greatest art, music and thought of the last two thousand years flowed out from it. And here we are..full circle. As it was in the beginning, and now, and ever shall be, world without end…Amen.

Marcus Antonius
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Traditional Catholicism is the future of Christianity along with the main Orthodox churches. It is an almost wholly European phenomenon.

Watch this video about the success of the recent Chartres pilgrimage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb0sbLn2V-o&t

Look closely at the people.

Krafty Wurker
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Blah, blah, blah,,,

Yehudah Finkelstein
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TRIGGERED.

Krafty Wurker
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You are trolling again Rabbi—-arguing for and against the stated positions. Don’t be an asshole.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

You remove all doubt that you are an asshole every time you post the same comment over and over again.

(((Shill)))
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This comment section is completely retarded. This post is literally trying to present a more unifying message, and I instantly see a bunch of assholes arguing with each other over Christianity. You pathetic crybabies are the very reason that the alt-right could possibly collapse within the near future. When we fail to achieve our goals as ethno-nationalists, I’m going to blame you small minded, half-wits. Good day.

Ken31
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Cool story, dude.

A. Markov Citadelius
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(commenting using Twitter, so this is verifiably me) A very interesting read, and I am glad this is occurring, though I am not surprised, considering France has always had a strong Reactionary school. I am rather disheartened to see the stupid comments below on both sides of things. Christians must stop arguing against phantoms, and accept that Christianity has gone through a fundamental degradation in its ecclesial & social aspects in the west, to the point where some kind of ‘reform’ would not cut mustard, and what would instead be required would be a Guenonian ‘renovation’. That is, the change… Read more »
AffanGul
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Read Codreanu.

Nova Slavia
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What a steaming pile of bullshit. Throw the dead Jew on a stick out. Christianity is a cancer.

Игор
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Трол.

Annie Oakley
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I think the Alt-Right needs Christianity, or at least should not reject it. Perhaps it is Christianity that has made White people so successful? An atheistic movement is born to die. We see that pattern over and over. The Left is out of control, because they are God-less. As a Christian, the rejection of Christianity from the Alt-Right is a little off-putting. I am definitely drawn to the Alt-Right, but I feel like I’m in the wrong place when you reject Christianity. Not to say it needs to be a Christian movement, but it certainly shouldn’t be an atheistic movement… Read more »
Daedra
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When we talk about pagans, we are talking about history, civilization, art, and culture. The muslims ( i.e. ISIS) are the ones who blow up the ancient city of Palmyra, walk into a museum and have a desire to blow up Nordic art. There is a level of respect Christianity has had for paganism since time immemorial, otherwise all those beatiful Greek statues would have been smashed up, like how ISIS likes to do it.

Syd
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They stole all the pagan holidays and festivals and Catholic saints are their round about versions of Roman deities

Yehudah Finkelstein
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This is still awesome though:

Jonathan Doe
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Mods, my thought out, time consuming post that I really want feed-back on has been marked as spam and deleted three times now. What’s the deal?

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