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The Satanic Verses

Richard Spencer (raised Episcopalian), Hunter Wallace (raised Methodist), and James Edwards (raised Southern Baptist) discuss the Southern Baptist Convention’s denunciation of the Alt-Right, as well as Christianity’s relationship toward nation, race, and culture.

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  • Just leave these godawful, dying anti-white churches. They hate us, and it’s not your ancestral religion anyway. If you need something to devote yourself to, devote yourself to our cause (I know the people on this podcast already do). At least our cause deserves your support.

  • SBC OFFICIAL: Okay, everyone here who’s a cucked douchebag and sorry excuse for a Christian man, raise your silly green ticket in the air.

  • The Catholic Writer E Michael Jones often talks about how Christ is the Logos. I like Jones about 50% of the time when he’s not claiming that America must welcome Hispanic immigrants or when he’s claiming that White Nationalists are the real Jews (WNRRJ).

    Anyway, the Logos is supposed to be the ordering principle of the universe or Reason.It seems to me that humans thrive best in communities and that communities are real when they’re formed by people with similar ethnic backgrounds. So based on my understanding of the Logos, it seems most reasonable that communities should be formed organically, which means in the same way people form families; by choice.

    Of course, if I told Jones this he would say that I was a Judaizer.

  • Raised as a Catholic, I’m now convinced that RCC is an enemy to White people. Not the only one, just the enemy that we ignore the most.

    • When the Pope openly spouts heresies like atheists go to heaven and that all religions lead to God and few people bat an eye, you know something has gone very very wrong. I’m not a Catholic nor am I particularly religious but even I see how wrong this is.

  • It just seems kind of self serving when Edward disparages “pathological altruism” in modern Christianity.. as if altruism isn’t a fundamental Christian virtue.

    this isn’t some Jewish invention, its right in the book. Its full of stories about pacifism, generosity, turning the other cheek.. giving away all your posessions to the poor (no matter how much or little you have). Wouldn’t that be “cucking”? There’s no holy war or Muslim style jihad.. Just loving thy neighbor..

    I’d be interested in how you think Marxists are reinterpreting scripture…at the very least you must admit that there is no mention of White Nationalism, indeed the religion disparages the Kingdom of Men and those who try to build up their mortal lives and power structures. Who cares about a few decades of mortal life compared to your eternal soul? Its even better to be killed, rather than commit a sin by killing, cause then you get into heaven

  • Why is this movement becoming so (((christian))) all of a sudden??? Thought we were united in the racial issue…

  • Who was listening to Xurious at the beginning of the podcast? Crazy, as I was listening to Xurious as I began this podcast, so I thought I had another window still open.

  • The Southern Baptist Convention is a unique beast and it has become the central point of so-called “Christian” Zionism, and in the last few years it has also become a hot bed of promotion of white/black miscegenation.

    In the Current Year 100% of American Christian leaders are literally prostitutes – you pay them some money and they make you feel good.

    However the SBC as an institution in worth understanding and studying, because if something like the SBC could be brought back to the pro-white side, it would be formidable ally. If you analyze institutional structures, SBC runs on what is called “Congregationalist Ecclesiastical Polity” or what in political/labor terms is called “anarcho-syndicalism.” Its institutional model is similar to the Spanish Confederación General del Trabajo (CGT) and Confédération nationale du travail (CNT.) This organizational structure is also very compatible with traditional American libertarianism. The model of course has its strengths and weaknesses.

    This may be somewhat anachronistic in the post-mass media age, but in a future America that is majority non-white, an institution like the SBC, or one modeled on it, would provide the community support to keep a viable and healthy White population and community somewhat independent and self-sustaining, and also one that would be extremely good for White family formation and White fertility.

    But the main cultural issues with the SBC at this point is that it’s a money making scam for a bunch of low rent half-bright Dixie hustlers with liberal arts degrees from unaccredited “Bible colleges” scamming little old ladies out of their pin money by telling them lurid stories of the Rapture.

    Let’s not forget that Jerry Falwell flew around on a private jet he gifted to him by Israeli money.

    Now that the people who used to watch Televangelists and send money have all died off, the SBC is hurting for cash more than usual.

    It’s another institution that is ripe for White Nationalist entryism.

        • What’s killing us and what needs to be fought as a priority is that mysterious something that is causing our institutions to go into cuck mode and start working towards the extinction of our civilization.

          Universities, media, government, schools and…. churches, all working to replace us. Pope Francis foot kiss goes here.

          I am totally willing to entertain and analyze the possibility that secularism and atheism “didn’t work out too well”.

          But it seems ridiculous to suggest that they are “enemy number one” for a White Nationalist… when so many of the Churches are in hard cuck mode.

          • P.S. Check out “Converts who changed the Church” at the Jewish Daily Forward

          • Our universities, media, government and schools are all liberal safe spaces that need to be defeated. Unfortunately, liberalism has infected every institution, but within all the liberal rot, there is one two thousand year old institution that stands tall and speaks the truth: Husbands have authority over their wives, marriage is the union of one man and one woman, homosexuality is sinful, abortion is murder, and God created the nations:

            After the unity of the human race was shattered by sin God at once sought to save humanity part by part. The covenant with Noah after the flood gives expression to the principle of the divine economy toward the “nations”, in other words, towards men grouped “in their lands, each with [its] own language, by their families, in their nations”.
            This state of division into many nations is at once cosmic, social and religious. It is intended to limit the pride of fallen humanity united only in its perverse ambition to forge its own unity as at Babel. But, because of sin, both polytheism and the idolatry of the nation and of its rulers constantly threaten this provisional economy with the perversion of paganism.

            The covenant with Noah remains in force during the times of the Gentiles, until the universal proclamation of the Gospel…

            Now the reason secularism is enemy number one is because Christianity is True. The only Being worthy of total devotion (i.e worship) is a Being that is omnibenevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent (i.e God). To give anything less total devotion or give it ultimate importance is insane.

          • The Catholic church and many of the Protestant churches are taking very anti-white stances on race and immigration.

            Once they fix that, I won’t have an issue with them.

            Until they fix that, the key issue remains ANTI-WHITE-ISM, not secularism.

          • I don’t think you can cite any papal encyclical that is “anti-White”. The Catholic Church affirms that God created the nations and this obviously includes the European nations. The point is that the worship of God always has the highest priority. Nevertheless, defending White people and worshiping God are not mutually exclusive. I think the Southern Baptist made a mistake here.

  • After the unity of the human race was shattered by sin God at once sought to save humanity part by part. The covenant with Noah after the flood gives expression to the principle of the divine economy toward the “nations”, in other words, towards men grouped “in their lands, each with [its] own language, by their families, in their nations”.

    This state of division into many nations is at once cosmic, social and religious. It is intended to limit the pride of fallen humanity united only in its perverse ambition to forge its own unity as at Babel. But, because of sin, both polytheism and the idolatry of the nation and of its rulers constantly threaten this provisional economy with the perversion of paganism.

    The covenant with Noah remains in force during the times of the Gentiles, until the universal proclamation of the Gospel…

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p1s1c2a1.htm

  • 55:27 “Southerners are a little slow.” – Richard Spencer

    Only Richie Spence is the kind of guy to insult the intelligence of his guests and their white demographic, and then ask with a smirk for their political allegiance and support. Now that’s chutzpah. It’s not the first time either.

  • Pretty good podcast. One thing I really agreed with was how all the ones for this anti altright resolution are all beta cucks.

    So true

  • Experience shouts that Edward’s distinction between “cucked leadership” and “the laity” in a southern baptist environment, relieves far too much the baptistic, autonomous obligation of their laity to hold leadership accountable and replace them if need be – and therein lies the rub. The “inability to reply” to leadership is likely the failure of congregational obligation – the reasons for such being many and often sordid. Ultimately, the laity have the leadership they desire.

    • The problem with the SBC, as well as any number of other protestant denominations is that it underwent the subversion of feminism without even recognizing or acknowledging what had happened. What we are seeing today is the direct result of that most awful of cutural revolutions in the pathetic leadership of the modern churches. The average pastor in the SBC is a beta male who came up through the Pew to Seminary pipeline and has been both sheltered and indoctrinated in feelings based theology from the time they were small children. The bubble world in which they have lived most of their lives cannot be over exaggerated.

  • Here’s what I tell people: God created the races. Why would preserving what God created be a sin or even Satanism? On the contrary, Satan desires to corrupt what God created.

    • Salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ alone, and our faith in Jesus Christ gives us power over the devil, be he Russell Moore, George Soros or the Roman Catholic Pope.

    • Why did God create the races? Because He’s a filthy little pervert who gets His rocks off watching us slaughter each other.

  • Many Christians believe that Christians have a moral obligation to cuck themselves. You see this to a despicable degree with these white Christians who adopt multiple Third World black children. Often times to grow up alongside their own white children. In one case I remember the white wife says they have so many niglets that her whole day every day is consumed by meal planning.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2MZvFlMBVk

  • Jews are the ones who taught blacks and other non-whites to have this hypocritical ingroup/outgroup duality. They can have a racial group identity but whites cannot. Whites see universalism as the most honest and fair, such as the Golden Rule. It’s only fair that you are offered the same terms that I am so we are both treated the same. Jews and Muslims don’t have this standard. They operate on the basis that what’s good for them would be bad to give to others. It’s inherently dishonest, manipulative and unfair.

    Whites are treated as the outgroup and also as the worst persecutors in the world. Similar to the concept of the Muslim dhimmi. Whites, politically, are 3rd class citizens or worse when it comes to the political heirarchy of victimhood status. Whites are the lowest, the worst persecutors and thus do no have the same rights as Jews, blacks and other non-whites.

    It’s erroneously stated, such as in the Wiki entry, that Judaism has the Golden rule. Jews only believe you should do this with other Jews, and the same goes for Muslims.

  • Instead of being deceptive, can we just say “No Christians allowed into the Alt-right.”

    But ALL Jews are welcome, including the most fanatical based White Jews/ Zionists.

    It would make things A LOT clearer.

    • Actual Satanists mostly seem kind of pathetic.

      I don’t think they can really pull off (or even approach) Lutheran Social Services – tier evil.

  • I don’t know if they will restore or re-do this. If you want a detailed examination of what happened from our perspective, listen to last Saturday’s The Poltical Cesspool, where James Edwards, Keith Alexander, and Eddie Miller take it apart.

  • For me at least the feed sounds great from the start to 10:19, when there is a series of pops on the audio track, and no more voices can be heard. The remainder of the recording is blank.

  • Richard has more in common with Kurt Eichenwald than just attending the same elite prep school. He’s also Episcopal just like Kurt! Perhaps that picture of Richard with Laura Bush isn’t photoshopped.

  • Religion is a problematic aspect within the ‘movement’ [sic]. I agree with Covington’s approach, which is in turn the same as the Fuhrer: we are a political movement, not a religious one; we are a brotherhood of blood, not of faith. A comrade is a comrade and doesn’t matter if he worships Christ, Odin, the Great Pumpkin or the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    That being said, there must be religious tolerance within the movement, we don’t need to fights about how many angels or Valkyries can dance in the head of a pin; we already have enough infighting.

    • I’ve also noticed that Christians are the ones most opposed to religious tolerance within the movement.

      • Aside from Varg Vikernes I can’t think of any non-Christians who spend much time talking about religious issues within the movement.

        • That’s complete bullshit. Not only that, most pagans I meet have absolutely no idea about Christian history, have not read a single page of the bible in context or explored more than one translation.

          They continually insist Jesus is a Jew on a stick, which is an incredibly ignorant attitude – one must study the linguistic trickery at work with the word ‘Judean’ being translated as ‘Jew’ – when there were different sects in Judea, people of different, and some of mixed bloodines… ‘Jew’ was not a race in Jesus’s time.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWzkC1NnMIo&t=2s

          This video is the best summary and all Pagans AND Christians should wrestle with this topic.

    • This is the only thing that matters! The 14 words and the 9 words! Spread them and no one should care what else the messenger believes!

      Salvation of the white race is the salvation of civilization!

  • There is one word that Richard pronounces so strangely it jangles in my ear every time he says it: “important”. He says it, consistently as “impor’ant”. Texas?

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