Perspective

Greg Johnson’s Attacks And How To Deal With Them

For obvious reasons, an anonymous person can never lead anything, let alone an identitarian movement for the future of European peoples. Instead of humbly accepting this fact, Greg Johnson builds up a toxic resentment towards those who outshine him, who are willing to take risks and be public figures.

In a thread on the TRS Forum, Greg Johnson of Counter-Currents Publishing leveled a number of serious charges against Daniel Friberg, one of our Founders and Editors—without offering any evidence. Furthermore, Greg urged the entire Alt-Right movement to “shun” or “expel” Daniel and Arktos Media based on these unsupported—and sometimes illogical and contradictory—accusations.

The controversy centers around the Scandza forum, which held a recent conference at which Greg was a speaker and guest. Before the conference began, Greg issued a request that Daniel should not be allowed to attend (effectively, “it’s either him or me”). Greg’s actions have been confirmed by multiple people on the Altright.com Board who’ve spoken with the conference organizers and others. Bringing this level of divisiveness to Swedish nationalism is bad enough, but Greg made matters worse when, after receiving criticism, he brazenly lied about what occurred, claiming that the conference organizers, and not him, disinvited Daniel, and that, in fact, he urged them not to take these actions. Apparently, Greg has little compunction over throwing his hosts and sponsors under the bus.

More potentially damaging than Greg’s petty lies are his claims that Daniel Friberg,

  1. Doxxed the organizers of The Scandza Forum to the Antifa, apparently in revenge for being disinvited;
  2. Was an “embezzler” of funds from his own company, Arktos;
  3. Destroyed “an endless list of people both personally and financially.”

Greg must either present evidence supporting these allegations or retract them and apologize. Who are the people on this “endless list”? What evidence exist that a man who’s been a leader in Swedish nationalism for 20 years is actually a collaborator with antifa? If Daniel has been so destructive to Arktos, why is the company so productive?

We won’t hold our breath . . . The fact is, no evidence for Greg’s accusations exist; and if any did, Greg would have obviously already published it.

Secondly, it must be made clear that this behavior from Greg is nothing new. In recent years, he has attacked the following individuals, making unfounded accusations, sometimes demanding denunciations, or just randomly kvetching:

  1. Andrew Anglin of The Daily Stormer;
  2. Hunter Wallace of The Occidental Dissent;
  3. Richard Spencer of NPI and Radix;
  4. Matt Parrott and Matthew Heimbach of The Traditionalist Workers Party.

The repeated public and behind-the-scenes attacks on Daniel, along with the people above, stem from Greg’s wish to be THE leader and guru of the Alternative Right (or nationalist opposition or whichever term you prefer). The problem with this ambition is that Greg is afraid to show his face publicly, or perhaps has some reason to hide his identity, and imposes a complete ban on photos at every conference at which he speaks. Moreover, his generic name makes it difficult to do a proper background check on him.

For obvious reasons, such a person can never lead anything, let alone an identitarian movement for the future of European peoples. Instead of humbly accepting this fact, he builds up a toxic resentment towards those who outshine him, who are willing to take risks and be public figures: Andrew Anglin, for running the most popular website among nationalists; Richard Spencer, for becoming the icon of the international Alt-Right and getting the most media attention; Matt Parrott and Matthew Heimbach, for managing to build a real organization, instead of merely hosting small meet-ups; Daniel Friberg, for succeeding where Greg failed, building a successful publishing house, Arktos, hosting the biggest Alt-Right conferences in Northern Europe, as well as co-founding AltRight.com with Spencer and others, etc.

Greg’s disruptive behavior is bound to continue. Until now, Daniel and Richard’s strategy has been to ignore Greg and resist playing his game.

But there comes a time when the wider Alt-Right must simply be made aware of Greg’s unacceptable behavior. Unlike Greg we’re not doing this to issue ultimatums about denouncing this and that person. We fully acknowledge the important accomplishments Greg Johnson and Counter-Currents have made over the years and thank them for it.

We are however deeply concerned about the division he’s creating and urge everyone to question his motives and hold him to the same standards you would anyone else in this movement. Today we are putting down our feet and say that “enough is enough”.

Daniel Friberg, European Editor of AltRight.com
Richard Spencer, 
American Editor of AltRight.com

  • Tobias Rieper

    Been a long time since we had some drama on the Alt-Right. This was to be expected tbh. Now that the movement is growing rapidly, everyone wants to be the boss of it. It wont work tough, this will only create more rifts in the different ideologies the AR is made of. This is also another crack between the US and European AR groups which will muddy the waters some more.

    • if anything this unifies the Europeans and Americans. This letter was written by Spencer & Friberg. I’d say most of the Europeans are with Friberg and most of the Americans are with Spencer.

      • Tobias Rieper

        We’ll just have to see how this plays out. I do have to mention the Pan-Europeanism of Richard and Daniel is worrying a lot of Euro nationalists tough. A lot of us do not like slavs or even their own neighbouring countries’ nationalists and seem to be opposed to working together because of this.

        • Rascal

          I agree that we will see, but ideologically, for now, I am with Spencer. I have watched muh individualism completely destroy European Americans, while everyone else works collectively. It isn’t much better at the national level.

        • Ike35

          Daniel isn’t a pan-European nationalist. I also don’t think we should throw the Slavic part of Europe under the rapefugee bus either.

          • Pioneer American

            Though you have to admit they seem to be doing better than any of us; ie, they don’t need anyone’s help.

          • Ike35

            At the moment they don’t seem to need it I agree but I think they’d be good allies to have with future events unfolding.

          • A hymn to Hermes

            Any one country or small bloc that stands alone will eventually get treated like Nazi Germany by the (((international community))). No one is for the extinguishing of anyone’s ethnic identity but the idea that we can retreat into the past of Westphalian social order one at a time is a dangerous mistake.

          • Tobias Rieper

            I personally don’t see them as a problem, but a very large part of the people I speak or work with in nationalist organisations are unwilling to work internationally. Europe in its whole is a very divided nation. Especially language is a major hurdle here, a lot of people do not speak any meaningful English, French or German so communication is nigh impossible. Couple that with all the (mostly bad) history of right wing groups and organizations, you get a divided playing field. And about 3000 years of conflict too of course.

    • Jotun Hunter

      I don’t think this will affect anything, they constantly bicker, nobody cares, all these guys produce good content. I could tell greg had a narcissism about him but still, LOTS of good articles at countercurrents.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Counter-Currents sucks ass and spreads Homosexuality.

    • WHAT

      Enoch Peinovichstein thing happened very recently.

      • Tobias Rieper

        A day on the internet is a month irl, that stuff’s ancient history already.

        • WHAT

          I guess I`m a barely living fossil then.

  • Lawrence

    Sad.

  • Evolver1

    What does Kevin MacDonald say about this? He seems like a straight arrow and seems to be close to what happened.

    • I can’t recall Kevin MacDonald engaging in any petty personal disputes ever. I don’t know anything about Daniel Friberg.

      But I have observed virtually everyone else on that list engage in the most underhanded and petty online personal drama for over a decade: Greg Johnson, Matt Parrott, Matt Heimbach, and Andrew Anglin. I do not recall Spencer engaging in any but there were always rumors that he had, but I had assumed those rumors were spread by those four individuals precisely because Spencer had not.

      Any time Greg Johnson, Matt Parrott, Matt Heimbach, and Andrew Anglin are involved in something, you can be 100% assured that they will engage in personal drama, clownish antics, purposefully discrediting appearances in the media, and otherwise bring disrepute onto the pro-white movement. Those four have a consistent record going on a decade.

      It’s also amusing that those four have at various times attacked each other, then “switched sides” and ganged up with each other to attack a different faction.

      • I have to give credit to Spencer, he basically just ignores his harshest critics if there is little merit to their words.

  • Jonathan McCann

    This is troubling, It sounds like a call to civil war and I don’t know what’s going on.

  • Jotun Hunter

    motives not motifs, no?

  • Evolver1

    This really has to get beyond the he said/he said level to stop a fracturing of the movement into competing camps aiming the cannons inward instead of outward at our common enemies.

  • Eric Kreutzmann

    This is incredibly unfortunate. Greg Johnson is one of the most knowledgeable and articulate people advocating White nationalism. It’d be a terrible shame if his counter-signalling ended up making him a persona non grata in alt-right circles.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      His behavior has rendered Grindr Greg persona non grata on the Alt Right.

      • Eric Kreutzmann

        Well, it seems that might end up being the case. I just think that’s unfortunate.

      • John

        You seem to have it in for Greg and you’ve been spamming this thread with it.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          Greg has earned all the scorn he’s getting over the years, and now he’s pulled this latest stunt. If you don’t like it John Engelman, you can go back to Amren and post your Philo-Semitic crap to the Boomers over there.

          • John

            Clearly irony is lost on you. A modicum of intelligence too.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Claiming irony and ignoring the topic at hand (Grindr Greg) is NOT. AN. ARGUMENT. So why do you like Grindr Greg? Was it the Negro and the Homo book he published?

          • John

            You’re spamming against Greg while shilling for AA – looks like you have it backwards.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Don’t really care about Anglin, but virtue signalling against him is RamzPaul tier Cuck sh!t

          • John

            Yea.. anyone who disagrees with you is RamzPaul!

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            If you employ, the same line of thought as Ramz, I will compare you to him.

          • John

            Hey – you’re the one with an agenda here against an alt.Right figure – not me.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Yes. The homosexual Alt Right figure who accused the owner of the largest Alt Right publisher of doxxing people to Anti Fa. The homo also owns a publishing house. No motives at all.

          • Purus Sanguis

            Notice how finkeljew here didn’t deny you saying it was his real name. Very interesting….
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b858ded5399fad5c7ee32c9b43418e93f2d1abe7dd6ec12609928393063c4247.gif

          • Yehudah Finkelstein
  • Sinéad McCarthy

    Raaaaawwwwr!! There’s a cat fight in the bath house, boys!

    • Jasper Been

      Oh, here we go…

    • SirVeil Lance

      There can be only one alpha bottom boy!

      • Ghetto Tarzan

        That would be Kyle Hunt.

        • Eric Kreutzmann

          Hey man, don’t make fun of Kyle. Bottoming is an important part of White nationalism; after all, since there’s supposedly no up and down in (((space))), doesn’t the fact that there can be a ‘top’ and a ‘bottom’ just go to show you that the earth is really flat?

    • Eormenraed

      off yourself you odious harpy

    • Ghetto Tarzan

      You’re more familiar with the nut house.

    • Ike35

      Yeah renegade sinead never starts pointless flame wars with basically everyone, piss off. Why don’t you take a cruise to the ends of this flat earth you quack.

    • TitusFlaviusCaesarAugustus

      The 👏 Luna 👏 tic 👏 is 👏on 👏the 👏grass 👏

    • Gubbler Chechenova

      in a flat earth world.

  • Dominique Nuit

    From the outside looking in, this is very sad. I have the highest respect for all parties involved. Therefore, gentlemen, please follow your better natures!!!

  • Three Stars

    Greg Johnson and Spencer have had sort of a low intensity feud for a while. Motives were always murky. Greg Johnson did seem a little on the spiteful side in podcasts and interviews (he was the only one seriously butthurt about Paul Gottfired being associated with the New Right –“this Jew we baked into the movement!”– and calling for his barring from conferences) but the reasoning The Editors made for him seems kind of… contrived.
    Is the whatever thing they’re bickering over so important as to make it public?

    • itzmatthias

      Yes.

    • Cledun

      Greg just published an article asking people to write Counter-Currents into their will. lol. He is truly a vulture.

      I suspect his feuds with everyone else comes down to competition for donations. Greg doesn’t actually work but you all know the kind of lifestyle San Francisco homosexuals are used to.

      • Pioneer American

        ? NPR (US’ National Public Radio) does that all the time.

      • Reinout van Hulst

        If you say that, you don’t seem to understand the enormous amount of work involved in running a quality website, writing articles and publishing books. Please enlighten us what you are doing compared to that. And why whould Johnson not ask for donations in a will? Everybody asks for donations.

    • Gubbler Chechenova

      Johnson is closer to small ethno-nationalism. He goes for micro-politics.
      Spencer prefers pan-racial-union. He goes for macro-politics.

      Different personalities.

      It’s like the Hesse story Narcissus and Goldmund.

  • Rascal

    Love Greg Johnson as an articulate idea guy, even if I don’t agree with everything he says. That being said, unless I know you personally, anons have little credibility in these disputes without proof. Sorry, but that is just the way the world works. Spencer’s laundry is out there and has been combed over with a microscope. That counts for something.

    • Pioneer American

      Greg doesn’t have Richard’s money, and had a brick thrown through a neighbor’s window (intended for him) in San Francisco once. I can understand his caution.

      • Rascal

        I respect when someone wants to remain anonymous. That being said, anonymity doesn’t really grant an authoritative position when making accusations without proof. These are some pretty hefty accusations too. Doxxing is the big one.

        • John

          Equally you could argue the media only “doxxes” those who aren’t really a threat.

          And ignores anything that is truly a threat.

          • Rascal

            I just read the original thread, and there is no proof presented that any personal information was released at all, which goes back to my original point.

            So here you and I are taking different “sides” in something that may not have even happened. Gee, where have I seen this trick before.

          • John

            Actually, mine was a general point about the (((media))).

          • Rascal

            Fair enough.

  • Mr Stamper

    Seriously though, sort yourselves out and settle this feud over a pint for everyone’s sake.

    • Greg doesnt drink lel

      • Mr Stamper

        Damn. It seemed so simple a solution.

      • Ike35

        Wine occasionally I understand.

      • Settle it over a good shave

      • “Don’t trust these three: The woman, the Turk, and the teetotaler.” – Peter the Great.

  • Yehudah Finkelstein

    It was only hours ago that I said Grindr Greg was an insufferable dickhead. Clearly, Grindr Greg has envy towards those more successful than him. The path forward is not through weighty pseudointellectual essays like “The Negro and the Homo.”

  • Daisy

    Speaking of Greg Johnson, here’s an excellent article by him on how to take back White America – which would work for White nations in general.

    As for Anglin, he promotes race-mixing in line with Kalergi 101, while promoting the Manosphere too.

    Anglin claims to have radically changed his beliefs in recent years, which is unusual to say the least. As recently as 2012 he was calling into black nationalist radio shows with anti-White propaganda, while dating a teenage Asian in the Philippines. Liberals are usually in denial about the impact upon the White race, rather than overtly calling for anti-White measures.

    Weev also seems to have extricated himself from a 7 year federal sentence with less than a year served, dipped out to Lebanon and has worked with cloudflare, which may well be a front for private intelligence gathering – enabling tracking to be carried out without warrants. The point being that visitors to DS are likely monitored. It’s notable that Weev is Jewish too.

    Should that not be called out?

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2014/06/the-slow-cleanse/3/

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      Anglin, from what I’ve seen, has always been upfront about his past. He was a liberal idiot in his youth like many of us. Unlike Grindr Greg, who only exists online and can’t lead anything.

      • Daisy

        There’s a difference between parroting a few liberal mantras and actively calling for the extinction of the White race. He also openly expresses hatred toward the White race:

        White people went around the world and they fucked everybody.

        Anglin also attacks half the White race by inciting hatred between the sexes and follows it up with a tacit endorsement of White sharia, in line with the Islamisation of the West.

        His comment can be found at the 51′ mark in this vid:

        • Arthur Frayn

          He never called for the “Islamisation of the West.” That isn’t what the “white sharia” meme is about.

          • Daisy

            White Sharia sneaks the political ideology of Sharia into the White man’s world.

          • Arthur Frayn

            It really doesn’t. If you want to argue that it’s a bad meme, that’s fine. I think you can make the case that it’s unnecessarily toxic and confusing for people, but it isn’t an attempt to secretly push Islam on the west. That’s confused and silly at best, baseless slander at worst.

          • Daisy

            So it’s ok to attack half of Westerners by inciting hatred between the sexes and then chase it with a tacit endorsement of Islam?

          • Max Triggers

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e39d6c160c5c1c434024024e0b38e96fda13b04566accfd53816ce08c759d85.jpg

            NO… it smacks women in the face with a call to modesty and tradition. You will be stripped of all “rights”… either by Islam or White Men.

            The choice is yours.

          • Pioneer American

            Oh God the LARP. We should ‘ostracize’ this meme. You know it was invented by some drunk, probably not-infinitely-far-sighted ex-military guys on a podcast, and it’s kind of a joke or thought experiment, right?

          • Max Triggers

            I have understood the concept behind “White Sharia” for years, I just never labeled it as such.

            No LARPIing necessary.

            This is worth a read. http://www.economist.com/blogs/erasmus/2016/02/conversion-islam

            Women will convert to Islam en masse over the next decades, and White Men will try to logically point out the contradiction to them while nobly protecting their “rights”.

            These women will have something entirely profound to say about the ordeal… “I just can’t explain why, it just FEELS so natural.”

            Islam or White Men will strip women of all rights, the choice is yours.

          • DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

            Its benefit for women is that Islam doesn’t expect women to parade themselves around in skimpy bikinis and maintain BMIs <19. At a certain point, most women seem to want to grow up, and Western societies urge upon them opposite goals.

          • Any white male that engages in the “white sharia meme” is simply proclaiming to the world that he’s not married, has no children, is unsuccessful with women, and is extremely bitter about it.

            It does not “smack women in the face” because the boys using that meme have no ability to “smack [anyone] in the face” except for perhaps themselves.

            That is the problem with the Anime Internet Culture – as long as it stays as an online joke, it can be funny and sometimes even useful, in its own way.

            As soon as the boys try to get people to take them seriously and force people to respond to their childishness, it becomes counter-productive.

            Similar to how Johnson is extremely useful to the cause when he writes and edits essays and translates others’ works into English, only to ruin everything with his constant need to engage in personal drama.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            “Similar to how Johnson is extremely useful to the cause when he writes and edits essays and translates others’ works into English, only to ruin everything with his constant need to engage in personal drama.”

            This is a point few understand. Greg Johnson has been pulling stunts like this for years. Many people just came to the Alt Right in the last year or two, but those of us who have been here since 2010 have seen Greg attack other Alt Right figures repeatedly.

          • Max Triggers

            “Any white male that engages in the “white sharia meme” is simply
            proclaiming to the world that he’s not married, has no children, is
            unsuccessful with women, and is extremely bitter about it.”

            The divorce rate is 50% and that’s conservative.

            Women overwhelmingly get the children, essentially rendering the Man childless, and the Man almost always pays for this financially.

            By definition that makes half of the eligible male population “unsuccessful with women”.

            You are correct that they are bitter. A person would have to be an absolute masochist to think otherwise, or possibly a sadist lol.

          • I wrote “manosphere” type stuff for years and was quite successful at it. I sympathize with the general ideas. In fact I’ve even dealt with some of the darkest aspects of female psychology and was often attacked because of it.

            But I never came across as bitter because I’m not. I never came across as a loser because I’m not. My truth-telling earned me plenty of female fans.

            The childish anime internet trolls with their “white sharia” are counter-productive, at least when they expect to be taken seriously, as anything other than internet trolls. They are of a piece with the cuckold fetishists who fantasize that White women all secretly long for Black men. It says more about them than it does about the White women. If you want to discuss male dominance and female submission, why do you ALWAYS have to cuck and bring in foreign ideas, like “sharia?” To ask the question is to answer it, because the boys that talk about “white sharia” are cuckolds. They can’t even imagine being masculine without thinking of non-white men.

            No, White women are not going to convert to Islam “en masse” anytime in the future, that is a cuckold fantasy by bitter teenage boys.

            Then again you may be right about the “sadist” part. Maybe try it sometime and you won’t be so bitter.

          • Max Triggers

            LOL… I loved that piece you wrote about Denise when she got drunk at the party.

            Women for the most part are stupid, sheep-like followers, and in my opinion (as well as experience) will submit to strength.

            No cuckold fantasies here, just a gentlemanly disagreement IMHO.

            Nothing wrong with a little sadism, I certainly enjoy it far more than the other 😉

            Why on earth would you think I’m bitter?

          • @maxtriggers:disqus

            LOL, I didn’t know I had a fan.

            “Disciplining Denise”

            You should read the emails I got from women about those stories … they were sending me their pictures for a while …

          • Endymion

            “My assets that infiltrated the Occupy movement said it was essentially a Free Pussy Party.”

            So you have been doing intelligence work after all. Puts that comment I replied to earlier into context.

            Interesting.

          • Purus Sanguis

            Both Anglin and Weev have Jewish mothers and that is enough for me to condemn anything they do.

          • A hymn to Hermes

            I’m pretty sure the guy who invented the meme is married with several children.

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            Funny how I didn’t hear shite about tradition and modesty on there. I did hear plenty about dropping your seed amongst the woman and emulating arse apes.

          • TorBaker

            Yeah, very sneaky.

        • Jörð

          You are spot on with that assessment. AA is a total shill!

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          Some Autistic hour long rant against Anglin. Neat..

        • Rudeforthought

          If it bothers you that much, be a traditionalist and ask your father/son/husband to intervene on your behalf instead of trying to nag men who aren’t related to you into doing what you want. If you don’t have any of these who would speak on your behalf, you’re a dumpster-fire of a woman. The fact you’re running your mouth and spreading drama based on decades-old nonsense proves Anglin right. The only place for women in this movement is tending to the men.

          • Daisy

            Decades-old nonsense.

            Anglin was saying this stuff just a few years back..

            Ironically, you’re the one running your mouth off and haven’t refuted a single point made. If you want to shill for a a very likely fake-WN op. that’s up to you.

          • Rudeforthought

            You still have yet to produce substantive proof that Anglin advances miscegenation. You posted an hour-long rant by some irrelevant moron with a rather humorous “beak nose” himself. Again, you prove Anglin’s “no women” rule correct. You’ve posted nothing constructive.

          • Daisy

            I quoted a comment by Anglin expressing his hatred for the White race.

            For corroboration I linked to his comment in a video saying it could be found at the 51′ mark.

            Alles klar?

          • Rudeforthought

            You quoted a guy quoting a guy. Bravo.

          • Daisy

            Actually it’s AA in his own words. But you’re clearly immune to logic.

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            Really, without women you have zero white children you leeching arse ape. Go jump in a lake. You be lucky to get a gibbon in your bed… Vile creature that you are.

          • Rudeforthought
          • StraitlacedMissouri

            What the bleep is a dumpsterfire loser? I am a white woman with 5 all white children so take your middle finger and blow off you disrespectful POS…

          • Rudeforthought

            A dumpsterfire is a supposed white mother who spends her time shitposting on the internet. Bet you’re a white single mother too. Not sure what manner of man would put up with your shrill nonsense.

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            Envious I see….. A man that loves his family. And what of you? A stay at homo father are you?!

          • Rudeforthought

            Envious of a single mother? Why? In the coming ethnostate, yours will be pumping gas for mine.

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            You are so wishful but there isn’t room for white folks in Tel Aviv… You’ll have to hire an Arab dirtbag.

          • JorgenVonStrangle

            Gotta love the Renetard delusions. Everybody who doesn’t agree with feminist paganism is a jew. You guys are the biggest collection of mentally ill degenerates on the Alt-Right. And given the existence of Counter-Currents, that’s saying something.

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            WTF is feminist paganism? You certainly must be talking about yourself.

          • Purus Sanguis

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ace03b481ab298f1a8a526e9de80cdb2905acfaf99475de75e8679c89da5281d.png
            Perhaps the only good meme DS has ever created. Applies to this situation LOL.

          • Purus Sanguis
          • Evolver1

            If you truly are a White woman with 5 White children, and you promote Whiteness above all else, you have my respect. You are doing what nature (or God) commands us to do: MAKE MORE WHITE PEOPLE!!

            Now, if some on here who constantly attack White women would go and have White children, we might all be better off. And, yes, I’m male and have more than a few children.

            Lastly, some seem to want to attack you by saying you must be a single mother and must be on welfare? So what? If you are White and you have White children you’re okay in my book. Everything else is secondary.

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            Thanks, I am actually a married white woman. My husband works to care for us. We have a nice home and a bit of land in Missouri.
            I’m with you though, wtf kind of white man would attack a single mom of white children? What a flippin creep. Glad you and yours are doing your part brother. 14 words

          • Purus Sanguis

            Jews are thick as flies on this website LOL JIDF galore!

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            Oh yes, I forgot… They started allowing men to marry men nationwide a few years back. Must have been grand carrying your groom over the threshold….barf

          • John

            Crude.. like a jew.

          • Purus Sanguis

            You also got womanish hands.

          • JorgenVonStrangle
          • StraitlacedMissouri

            Jews galore today I see….

          • JorgenVonStrangle

            >it disagrees with me, therefore it’s a jew

            Women are irrational creatures. I’m not fully on bored with White Sharia, but women like you are changing my mind. Are you a renetard, btw?

          • John

            It’s “on board” btw.

            English not your first language?

          • JorgenVonStrangle

            Renetard, I take it? God, how many feckless losers still trust Kyle Hunt?

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            It isn’t that you disagree… It’s your creepy arse meme… F off jew… I am sure you are deeply afraid of a white woman with 5 white children….

          • JorgenVonStrangle

            Odd how you never mention a husband….. so you’re really nothing better than a negro welfare queen?

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            Rotflmfao

          • Purus Sanguis
          • StraitlacedMissouri

            What a bleeping creep.. You are an arse ape. You certainly aren’t a white man….

        • Pioneer American

          Thanks for that. Whatever good he ends up doing for White Nationalism, great, but his very instability makes him more dubious, less someone you want to trust or count on. I see now why ramzpaul is against him.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Never rely on the word of RamzPaul. I can’t see not liking Anglin. But RamzPaul virtue signals at the drop of a hat. He’s repeatedly disavowed white nationalism and the Alt Right. Paul Ramsey is now Civic Nationalist with people like Cernovich.

          • Pioneer American

            No, I think ‘civic nationalism’ is like Steve Sailor’s ‘citizenism’, a govt has to work for its existing population, but doesn’t seek either to maintain its ethnic basis or to change the demographics either, whereas ramzpaul is ethno-nationalism for everyone. He’s definitely pro-white. And yes he’s desperate for respectability, this stuff has pulled him in further than he bargained for I think, and he wants to avoid the labels. I know he’s disavowed the alt-right, despite that being meaningless (he’s alt-right whether he wants to be or not), but it’s not like he’s going to be a traitor or anything. And, hey, this is one confirmation of something he’s said, so I’m more likely to take his opinions on marginal things on board in the future.

          • Paul Ramsey disavowed ADL/SPLC run costume clown (((Hollywood Nazism))) which is why all the ADL/SPLC run costume clown (((Hollywood Nazis))) constantly attack him.

            He may be a little over sensitive to labels, but he is a solid pro-white man who isn’t afraid to call out anti-white Jews, which is why anti-white Jews are always attacking him.

            He has never engaged in “virtue signaling” – suggesting such is, itself, a form of “virtue signaling,” an attempt to posture as “more right than thou.” The left does that all the time, which is why Antifa’s number one enemies are “liberals.”

          • Pioneer American

            > ramz never engaged in virtue signalling

            He kind of has, with that reporter Rosie – he wanted to distance himself from the dark side. But that’s minor and you can’t blame him.

            > Antifa’s number one enemies are “liberals.”
            Oh no, they love nothing more than a good nazi to punch 🙂 Unless you mean that liberals are what will destroy them, in which case, I don’t have much to say either way.

          • No, really, Antifa’s number one enemies are “liberals.” I know this for a fact because I successfully “infiltrated” Antifa way back in the late 90s. I’ve been a featured speaker at an international Antifa conference. The “Nazi” gimmick is just that, a gimmick. The real “Antifa” is a Zionist, Israeli run astroturf group whose main enemies are mainstream liberals.

            OccidentalDissent.com just “outed” the organizer of Antifa in North Carolina, and yes, exactly as I predicted, he’s an Israeli citizen.

            Paul Ramsey is a great guy and a valuable pro-white figure – ignore the shiite-tier trolls, they are mostly (((Hollywood Nazis))) working for Jews.

          • Arthur Vickstrom

            It’s no coincidence that the attacks on Ramsey increased dramatically after he began explaining how the (((Hollywood Nazi))) shtick works. Our enemies know that this type of nonsense doesn’t work:

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02be22cde76db75c862d27abf1b62a9ec671911acac356261b46bf4260b627ff.jpg

            That’s why they keep trying to revive it. They want to chain Nationalism to Hitler’s corpse.

          • Absolutely, that is exactly what put Ramsey in the crosshairs – he outed the (((Hollywood Nazi))) act and so they, quite predictably, attacked him for exposing them.

            Of course Ramsey himself has never shied away from criticizing Jews for being anti-white, and Ramsey has even engaged in a bit of “Holocaust Revisionism.” He also constantly pushes back against the comical defamation against the actual, historical NSDAP regime.

            The anti-Ramsey people are typically Jews that want any and all criticism of Jewish power to be ghettoized into the (((Hollywood Nazi))) clown corral. The ADL and the SPLC have spent nearly a half century doing this – it’s obvious to anyone paying attention.

          • Evolver1

            Whites should not criticize the Nazis. That just fragments Whites. And, if one is inclined to attack the Nazis–which is what ((( )))want us to do–one must ask oneself: Would we now have non-Whites attacking and murdering Whites daily and would we now have no-go areas in White cities and wouldn’t Whites now be better off if the Nazis had won WWII?

            The fact is that if the Nazis had won, Whites would be much better off today than we are and we’d be having huge White families.

          • Moishe-the-Beagle

            Overton Window. Look it up.

            When nationalist individual or group A steps out to the right of already “radical” or “unthinkable” political brand B, they make B appear closer to “reasonable” or “sensible” on the political spectrum. The “Hollywood Nazis” are actually lifting all boats, while you are wasting your time on here attacking people you only disagree with on issues of presentation. Stupid.

          • Arthur Vickstrom

            I attack (((Hollywood Nazis))) because they’re normally a form of controlled opposition: Hal Turner, Frank Collins (aka Cohen), Daniel Burros, Wolfgang Hawke aka Greenbaum, and several other LARPy Nazi leaders were eventually outed as Jews & Feds. These people hide behind the Overton Window and use it to excuse their idiotic behavior. And no normal White person wants to be associated with frauds.

            I’m guessing you already knew this though.

          • Moishe-the-Beagle
      • Cledun

        Ignore Daisy, Yehuda, she is likely from Sineads feminist cunt cesspit. All they do is lie.

        • John

          Such vulgar displays are an effective way of refuting the allegation one is a shill for the chosenites, I’ve found. Perhaps if you were to make an inappropriate fecal reference, you might be even more convincing?

    • A hymn to Hermes

      Anglin’s arc isn’t that unusual. A lot of people came to the Alt-Right via the manosphere. The manosphere’s best blogger is pro-white and a lot the manosphere’s early scholarly work was done by F. Roger Devlin, who is also a White Nationalist.

      • From Ohio

        If anything I think the Alt-Rigjt should have more recruiters out in many of these sites from the Mano sphere to the counter-jihad groups (that’s where I found the Alt-right).

      • Daisy

        People come to the Alt-Right from all walks. It doesn’t account for the fact Anglin has displayed open hatred toward Whites.

        • A hymn to Hermes

          Honestly it’s hard for me to relate to most people in the Alt-Right who are seemingly mostly suburban millenials whose parents were baby boomer liberals (which is true of Anglin as well as far as I can tell) which is totally different than my own background.

          We get converts who were anti-white leftists before we get cuckservatives. Maybe Anglin is a shill but having been anti-white in the past doesn’t necessarily totally discredit him. It’s actually easier to converse about our ideas with an anti-white who doesn’t reflexively shout them down than it is with a civic nationalist who is in most instances a kind of willfully delusional fanatic who is only interested in the affectations of reason but can’t actually be reasoned with. Someone who is a white gentile anti-white is in some sense already primed to understand our message in a way that a normalfag is not.

          • Hammerheart

            Brilliant!!! People have wanted to lynch me for saying exactly that

    • Arthur Frayn

      I don’t think Anglin actually promotes race mixing. As for the big, bad, scary manosphere, defense of the traditional family structure is the defense of our race since traditional monogamous marriage is the only way it can perpetuate itself. So, while I know it’s hard to hear criticism, women really are half of society and many of the problems we have now in our brave new post sexual revolution world are your fault. We’re going to have to be able to have those discussions without you throwing the word “misogyny” around like a SJW.

    • From Ohio

      As much as I have liked Johnson’s commentary it looks like he wants to become the Bill Buckley of the Alt-Right.

      • Ike35

        Ahhh, lets not go nuts! Bill Buckley was a stooge to ZOG. Greg has never been that.

    • Things That Everyone Already Knows 101

      • Pioneer American

        There are always new people, Herr Katze, and that’s a good problem to have 🙂

    • Cledun

      “As for Anglin, he promotes race-mixing in line with Kalergi 101”

      This is a straight up lie, it is pure slander. Anglin consistently and regularly condemns race-mixing. The only evidence you have is some joke video he made years ago, before he was a National Socialist, that he has addressed repeatedly on his website.

      You throw mud at better men than yourself all you like, you will have no effect. Anglins star will continue to shine brighter, and the movement will march forward towards greater success, no thanks to slime like yourself.

    • I read “The Slow Cleanse” a while back. I was unimpressed then and remain unimpressed now.

      Right now we have nearly 100 million Blacks and Hispanics in the United States. Johnson seems to think that if we take away welfare and affirmative action in White America most of them will leave voluntarily. Right now the Syrian crisis has produced around 5 million refugees with another 6-7 displaced people within Syria. Even if Johnson’s plan works exactly as he hopes, we would be left with a refugee crisis that would be an order of magnitude greater than Syria.

      Who is paying to send these people away and how do they propose to do it? That’s going to require an awful lot of aircraft carriers, jumbo jets and cattle cars: it’s also going to require cooperation from their final destinations. What “ancestral homelands” are prepared for that kind of influx? What African or Caribbean countries are prepared to take in 42 million Black Americans? What Central or South American nations are set up to hold 56 million Hispanic-American refugees? Europe can barely handle its present refugee load. Does anybody think Mexico, Jamaica and Nigeria will do better when faced with a far bigger one?

      Now let’s suppose some of these non-White Americans don’t want to leave voluntarily? Hell, forget “suppose” — we can take it as a given that most of them will resist and that “slow cleanse” will become a hot war within months, maybe weeks or days. Race War in America may be inevitable: Johnson’s kinder, gentler White Nationalism as presented in “Slow Cleanse” is just impossible.

      • Daisy

        It’s a template that offers up good practical solutions that are worth a shot and can of course be built upon. What’s the alternative – race war?

        Many people came voluntarily and can leave voluntarily too especially if they are incentivised to do so.

        As for the “refugee” crisis – who is “we”? Why is the refugee crisis our concern alone?

        • I totally get why Johnson wants nonviolent ethnic cleansing. Putting aside the moral issues (and we shouldn’t), a pro-genocide plan is a non-starter anywhere outside the *Daily Stormer.* Like most of his articles, Johnson’s “Slow Cleanse” is well-written and he obviously put a good deal of thought into it. Where we disagree is “practical.” For all the reasons I listed above, I think his plan for mass voluntary repatriations is a non-starter.

          “Why is the refugee crisis our concern alone?”

          If we are going to send non-Whites away from our White ethnostate, we need a place to put them. And so far as I can tell, nobody in the non-White world feels any moral obligation to destroy their own culture by taking in tens of millions of foreigners. Which is just one of the problems with Johnson’s plan: it presupposes a lot of cooperation from people who are almost certainly going to object strenuously.

          “What’s the alternative — race war?”

          Here are a few possible futures I see: this list is by no means exclusive and there could be many twists which create whole new models.

          1) Whites become a minority in America: Whites continue on their present course, believing that everything will be fine if only they sing “Kumbayah” loudly enough. This may work for some time as we are nowhere near so outnumbered as White South Africans and Rhodesians. The Kalengi Plan comes to full fruition and within a few generations Whites as we understand the term are reduced to tiny pockets living in relatively remote areas. They are generally left alone the way “hillbillies” in East Bug Tussle are left alone today: impoverished and ignored. A few generations more and even they are speaking Americano, a language which draws from Spanish and English the way Haitian Kreyol draws from French and Kongo dialects. European-Americans have gone the way of the Etruscans: while the surviving culture owes much to their accomplishments in the way Rome was influenced by Etruria, they are largely forgotten and their monuments neglected.

          2) As above but at some flash point resentment against the still prosperous White minority turns into conflict and mass slaughter. (This may happen when Whites are as outnumbered in America as they are in South Africa and Rhodesia). America becomes Zimbabwe in a few years, with widespread famine and a precipitous drop in everybody’s standard of living.

          3) White Identitarianism becomes increasingly popular. Whites begin arming themselves and setting up de facto White living areas which are heavily patrolled. This may result in a civil war and conflict as with #2 — but this time Whites have the guns, numbers and power to win the conflict. We have a South Africa v. 1.0 situation — which lasts approximately as long as South Africa’s apartheid regime did and which ends with a power-sharing plan that works about as well as their arrangement. Or we have White ethnostates amongst the balkanized remains of the former United States with border conflicts akin to those in the Balkan and Caucasus regions.

          5) A Yugoslavia, Ottoman or Austro-Hungarian Empire situation comes to pass: a number of disparate cultures living together under a strong ruler who recognizes the various groups as separate cultures and who enforces a Pax Tyrannicus. The “Mexification” of much of the United States results in Hispanic-ruled and Spanish-speaking regions with Anglo minorities: there is also a sizable population of “Americans” of multiethnic background as happens in any empire (c.f. many modern-day Turks and late-period Romans). Before this comes to pass pressure on the White minority has helped to forge a White American identity the way 1948 turned a bunch of disparate Arabic-speaking farmers and merchants into “Palestinians.”

          Basically, I don’t see White Americans, Black Americans and Hispanic-Americans disappearing from the scene at any point in the foreseeable future. We will learn to live together because we have to live together. I do not see our current American “democracy” (such as it is) staying on the scene, and believe it may well disappear within my lifetime. (I’m 52 so within the next 20-30 years, if that). I believe there will be ongoing tensions which may or may not erupt into full-blown race war. I hope to avoid that end, but fear that may no longer be possible.

      • Hammerheart

        But anyone who says that gets lynched and banned!

  • Jennifersbodhi

    Jag håller på dig Frippe <3

  • Joseph Curwen

    There is a saying: “dirty laundry is washed at home” (original is l”a ropa sucia se lava en casa”). This kind of petty drama published only hurts the ‘movement’ [sic]. If Friberg/Johnson/Spencer have problems, then put the gloves, enter the ring and solve them like men.

    Personally, I think that Arktos with Friberg is doing an good job, and CC with Johnson as well; however I disagree profundly with the profag stance of CC and also with the strange Iranian fixation of Arktos. I also disagree with the excessive intellectualism of both sites and publishing houses, because books and ‘cultural struggle’ are dead ends without the sword, but books and ‘cultural struggle’ is something.

    • Evolver1

      “Profag” is definitely not good to help Whites multiply as we should. We must be pro-White life and in bringing forth many more new Whites from the womb. As far as “the strange Iranian fixation of Arktos,” I don’t think it’s strange at all. Iran was the land of the Aryans and true Iranians are White, even though they may be Muslim. I think Arktos is doing the right thing to point this out.

      • Lucy Lipinska

        You’re absolutely right, Elvolver. It is not the Iranian Aryans fault that the Muslims took over the country.

      • Reinout van Hulst

        Homosexuals are just a tiny percentage. Nothing to worry about.

    • Pioneer American

      > profag stance of CC
      Richard Spencer is also a homosexuality pragmatist saying something to the effect of that “it’s always going to be with us”, just so you know. And I certainly wouldn’t believe that Greg /promotes/ homosexuality, he’s involved with Cascadia and is constantly promoting white family formation.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Not caring about fags and being a day are 2 different things.

        • Purus Sanguis

          Over 70% of all pedophiles are sodomites, over 60% of all HIV/AIDS transmissions are in the sodomite ‘community’ I.E. bugchasing and other disgusting acts, and over 60% of all known serial killers/rapists are known to have been sodomites. These numbers start looking even worse when you realize the fact that over 50% these scum openly admitted to having heterosexual relations in the past year according to studies conducted in 2015. This means they are spreading their depraved filth into the sane and healthy segments of society. Sodomites are a threat to the security and health of any society that tolerates them and should be treated like enemies of the state.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            So remind me again how being a fag is the same as not caring about fags.

          • Purus Sanguis
          • Reinout van Hulst

            You are just obsessed with homosexuals, it seems. You are probably some Christian with those silly ‘family values’.

          • Helter_Skelter

            >you ebul straight white cis christians!!!11

            My pagan ancestors drowned you poop eaters in bogs. Hell, i’m an atheist (*tips fedora*) and there’s nothing i hate more than faggots. It’s not just your disgusting “sex lives” (playing with buttholes is not sex), but your entire persona. I’ve never seen a sane fag, they all have “those” faces, you can tell by looking at them that they are severely damaged and alienated. You’re all so fucking empty and soulless, no wonder the ultra capitalist jews worship you guys and puts you in their shitty (literally) soup commercials.

      • Joseph Curwen

        I did not know that about Spencer. Yes, Johnson does not promotes fags, but he tolerates them. Tolerance towards fags and dykes should not be tolerated, period, end of story.

        • White Mothership

          Johnson not only tolerates homosexuality, he is a homosexual himself.

      • Crud Bonemeal

        Spencer is soft on fags but he has at least had the good sense to avoid saying stuff like “opposition to homosexuality is based in “Jewish influenced Christianity”.

    • Agreed, we shouldn’t base ourselves on outsiders as their support will stop the moment our interests change and homos are big no-no due to their sterile and hedonistic lifestyle.

  • No matter the reasoning, this is just bad marketing all around. Greg is an important voice, and to drag this out for public consumption shows a general lack of “leadership.” Whatever his faults and faulty reasoning/assumptions might be, I don’t think they are at the level where backchannels couldn’t remedy the situation.

    But what do I know; I’m just an anonymous person.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      Wrong. Grindr Greg is not free to make sh!t up and spread lies about people. He needs to be ostracized from the movement.

      • Case in point.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          So you think someone should be able to spread falsehoods because it suits their whims. Great.

          • And you think this approach fixes something?

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Yes. Cuts off Grindr Greg’s AZT cocktails.

      • Pioneer American

        > ostracized from the movement.
        The alt-right has no real leader – sure, Richard is by far the best candidate – and no membership, so what would being ‘ostracized out’ look like? I personally ain’t ostracizing no-one until I know the details.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          No invitations to conferences, appearances on podcasts, articles published. Let him have Counter-Currents.

        • John

          Same here.

        • To make it clear: We have never called for any “shunning” or “ostracizing” of Greg Johnson. All we ask from him is to back up his extremely serious allegations or apologize. He is the one *requested* that I and Arktos should be shunned from the movement, without substantiating his allegations. We are not drama queens and don’t do that kind of stuff.

    • itzmatthias

      Greg Johnson already made it public when he started speading Skazda drama on the public TRS forums.

      • Let me go ahead and emphasis it again:

        This is just bad marketing all around.

        Nothing good or productive comes from this. Trust me.

        • itzmatthias

          It’s not meant to be marketing. It’s meant to delegitimize Johnson, because that’s what he deserves at this point.

          • You’re not talking about the SPLC or some random anti-White loon. This involves completely different dynamics that aren’t going to be solved by claiming you’re going to “delegitimize” someone from something where you really can’t claim ownership.

          • itzmatthias

            Then why is Greg Johnson demanding the blacklisting of Daniel? And constantly making public denunciations of Richard Spencer, Anglin, Richard’s wife. You make the case for a certain degree of solidarity. I wholeheartedly agree, which is why this letter was written.

          • Watch the comments closely. Tell me how well you think this plan of deligitimzing is working. Greg’s bad decisions shouldn’t warrant more bad decisions.

          • itzmatthias

            Let’s see what the reception is like in a few days.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Most people on the Alt Right have no idea who Grindr Greg even is. Sh!tposters don’t read his meandering essays. IRL rallies like Charlottesville and Auburn were from Stormer, TRS, and Heimbach. Delegitimizing Grindr Greg and isolating him to Counter-Currents is a good idea.

          • Most people on the Alt Right have no idea who Grindr Greg even is.

            …….and now they do? And you even end your comment talking about delegitimization and isolation?

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I’m so sure that Alt Righters, 4 channers, Sh!t posters, Southrons, Stormers, etc. will now head over the Counter-Currents after Spencer and Friberg drew a line in the sand against Grindr Greg’s false rumor mongering. And yes, Isolating this bitter queer is what needs to happen. I’ve been seeing him lash out against others in the movement for years.

          • Do you understand irony?

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Make a lame argument. Claim “Just Irony.”

          • Reinout van Hulst

            It seems you have trouble understanding high quality essays. Well, don’t feel ashamed, you may enjoy the intellectual greatness of the Daily Stormer.

          • itzmatthias

            Isn’t this a bit of a concession? You said this wasn’t a good strategy. I explain why it’s valid. You say divisiveness is not good for movement. I explain that’s why this was published. Now your position is that the movement won’t like this? The movement can do without one, catty, anonymous homo.

          • BunnyMags

            The queer cries out, even as he strikes you.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          What kind of Cuck does nothing when they’re openly attacked without evidence by a bitter faggot?

  • Pioneer American

    Ok, so in the interest of manning up and publicly owning your words, which of ‘The Editors’ wrote this?

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      It’s attributed to Spencer and Friberg at the end.

    • We co-authored it. And received some input and feedback from our other editors as well. So it was certainly a team effort, and something that the entire editorial board of AltRight.com stands behind.

  • Ike35

    Let me start off by saying I like and respect the work of Richard, Daniel and Greg and I hope this kinda beefing between alt-right heavies stops but it has to be said that Richard has stayed silent up until now whereas Greg has on a rather regular basis stuck his thumb in Richard’s eye when the chance presents itself and I’ve never seen any reason for doing so. Greg’s article about how Richard probably ruined the alt-right movement with “Hailgate” comes to mind. It didn’t ruin it and writing the article was poorly timed to say the least. I just hope Greg eases up on this kinda thing because he does great work and CC is one of my daily stops and has been for years.

    • A. wyatt mann

      “alt right heavies” Was greg an alt right heavy? how many times has he shown his face? how many times has he gone on television to articulate his views to the world? How many times has he been assaulted and harassed in public?

      We should have one simple rule. If you want to claim you are important and a leader in this movement. You have to earn it by taking the personal risk.

      Greg is a worthless queer if any of this is true. Spencer simply asking for an apology shows he is a better man than most of us.

      • Meet me at Applebee’s

      • Ike35

        Just calm those bodacious tatas well ya.

      • Yankee Lampshade

        I think someone poisoned his pet once.

      • Kk

        What an idiotic comment. Probably a troll.

        • Ike35

          not even close.

      • eivindh

        He has shown his face many times. And it’s a rich insult calling people queer when your avatar is an anime character.

      • Jack Sen

        The Alt right is a joke. Theres like one testicle between the whole
        movement. Alt right is a SJW movement for angry white males who like
        other angry white males. its made the news only bc it has hurt trumkp./
        once it ceases to it will fade into obscurity along with green frogs and
        people like johnson and spencer..

      • Wyatt Mann

        Actually, there’s significant evidence of malfeasance on the part of Daniel Friberg: https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/06/the-truth-about-daniel-friberg/

    • Pioneer American

      ‘hailgate’ is the only ‘eye-sticking’ you can think of? That’s pretty mild. To me Greg’s was a valid criticism, though he over-blamed Richard I thought (said Richard could have predicted the response).

      I wish the two ‘Editors’ could have said they’re dissociating with Greg and leaving the details to informal back channels though. I mean, what’s the purpose of this? “None of you followers should follow Greg”?

      Boy @nattdanelaw is going to have a field day on his ‘alt right drama’ podcast.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Grindr Greg has been attacking Spencer for years.

      • invincible white owl

        I think the editors have handled this thing decently. They’ve ignored it till now so as to not amplify the divisiveness of it, but yeah, I can imagine that past a certain point it really would get fkn old.
        I didn’t interpret this article as saying “none of you should follow Greg.” It seems to me to be an acknowledgement, finally, of this tendency Johnson does seem to have from what I’ve seen.
        Johnson truly has been an intelligent & illuminating voice in the Movement; this divisiveness quirk of his is unfortunate & kind of strange given that he otherwise seems to be very sensible.
        I can think of other “eye-stickings,” for example a video made I believe from an audio clip of Johnson saying something to the effect that Spencer is unduly influenced by his wife re Russia/Putin/etc. Whether that’s true or untrue is irrelevant (I think it’s absurd, personally: does anyone actually think Spencer needs rely on someone else to formulate his opinions?!); for one leading voice of the Movement to insinuate BS about another is…bewilderingly petty, tbh.
        (And if I may say so, should Johnson REALLY be critiquing someone else’s marriage in this way or any way?)

        • Pioneer American

          I don’t know – should we just accept his feminine, bitchy(*), drama-prone nature and just ignore his accusations? It seems less damaging.

          (*) I allow myself to say this because I’m a bit feminine myself, though not gay, and I notice I have the same ‘back-stabbing’ proclivities. Am trying to get rid of them, one resisted temptation at a time.

          • invincible white owl

            That very thing (to accept his quirk & henceforth ignore it) is to me what this article is telling us to do.
            It acknowledges, for anyone who didn’t know or was uncertain, that yes, Johnson’s quirk, though heretofore ignored, has not gone unnoticed by Spencer/Friberg/etc; and that the accusations resulting from this quirk of his are groundless BS.
            And thus, now that everyone is on the same page re all that, we now know to just not give any weight to whatever subsequent accusations/etc Johnson might circulate; in effect just ignoring it.

            Good for you for resisting temptation; that’s the best anyone can do: recognizing whatever our individual weaknesses are, & defying them.

          • Marquis the Renegade

            If by quirk you mean no loyalty, no honor & no courage as homosexuals tend to be – then yeah.

          • Ike35

            The first step to recovery is acceptance. Don’t worry fashy brother, you’ll get there.

      • Ike35

        That was the example fresh in my mind and I hadn’t intended on writing a dissertation on alt-right beefs, I just wanted to make my point and move on. And you’re not quoting me there I take it? Keep it to back channels sounds like a good idea but they’re never going to stay there.

        • Pioneer American

          > quoting about ‘eye-sticking’ and hailgate?
          Yes, I was. It’s hard to tell now that the threads have gotten so long 🙂 I guess I don’t really want a dissertation on alt-right dirty laundry either, but people sometimes generalize from a single example, I wondered what your support was.

          • Ike35

            No, no, those were my quotes it was something else but it’s no biggie, the thread has blown up bigly here!

      • blackacidlizzard

        Heilgate was awesome and it got those parasites Milo, Cernovich, and Watson off our backs.

        Greg was wrong, defiance is in.

        • Pioneer American

          And alt-right-curious normies? Or even more neutral ones who we can’t hope to convert, but who it would be to our benefit to have them not dismiss us as nazis? There’s often a difference between what feels good and what’s smart. Though, in the event, Spencer thought the added publicity might have made it more good than bad.

          • blackacidlizzard

            The alt-light was using our energy to divert angry people back to the same old ideology of failure. You will always be called a Nazi. Glenn Beck is called a Nazi. We have control of our brand now. If this is what Jews wanted they would not have spent a year trying to blur the lines and make us look like colorblind libertarians.

          • Chadwick D. Prestington

            I’m not a Nazi and don’t agree with Nazism (though they are certainly misunderstood in general) but I have no problems with Roman salutes. White people have been doing them for 3000 years, and frankly it’s a much more aesthetic gesture than the ‘black power’ raised fist.

        • Jack Sen


          The Alt right is a joke. Theres like one testicle between the whole
          movement. Alt right is a SJW movement for angry white males who like
          other angry white males. its made the news only bc it has hurt trumkp./
          once it ceases to it will fade into obscurity along with green frogs and
          people like johnson and spencer

      • David Hollizzle

        Weird how many people spurned by us can’t ever let us go…

      • Jack Sen

        ..
        The Alt right is a joke. Theres like one testicle between the whole
        movement. Alt right is a SJW movement for angry white males who like
        other angry white males. its made the news only bc it has hurt trumkp./
        once it ceases to it will fade into obscurity along with green frogs and
        people like johnson and spencer

    • Purus Sanguis

      Richard Spencer ‘tolerates’ sodomites and their evil and disgusting filth, which is enough for me. It is a fact that that over 70% of all pedophiles are sodomites, that over 60% of all HIV/AIDS transmissions are in the sodomite ‘community’ I.E. bugchasing and other disgusting acts, and that over 60% of all known serial killers/rapists are known to have been sodomites. These numbers start looking even worse when you realize the fact that over 50% these scum openly admitted to having heterosexual relations in the past year according to studies conducted in 2015. This means they are spreading their depraved filth into the sane and healthy segments of society. With these things in mind it should be abundantly obvious that sodomites are a threat to the security and health of any society that tolerates them and should be treated like enemies of the state. If Richard Spencer cannot accept this and wants us to accept these dangerous monsters who threaten our women and children then I for one cannot respect him as a man, let alone as a leader.

      Spencer needs to either man up and condemn faggotry or step aside and let a real man who will take the reigns and lead the Aryan Nationalist movement in a better direction.

      • MyHyde

        The man is a White Nationalist Liberal.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          So?

          • MyHyde

            Pointing it out.

          • Purus Sanguis

            You can’t be a white nationalist and a liberal. You are either a pro-Aryan fanatic or you are a shill as far as I am concerned. I refuse to get on Spencer’s slippery slope to faggotry.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Autism.

          • Ghetto Tarzan

            Renetard austims.

          • Purus Sanguis

            Judaism.

          • MyHyde

            Not a slope when he is at the bottom. It is almost like a concept of “liberalism for one race”. I don’t see why many haven’t took the moniker prouder.

          • Purus Sanguis

            So basically we are supposed to act like kikes without kikes. Totally makes sense bro.

          • A. wyatt mann

            >a extremely insignificant small minority takes total control of the world

            Guys I dont think we should study these people and adopt their tactics and use them for our gains because lol everythingjewsisbad.

          • Purus Sanguis
          • A. wyatt mann

            “im stupid! Effective subversive tactics are off limits because jews are bad , instead we should engage our race in a bloody war we wont survive because im incapable of basic strategic thought”

          • Purus Sanguis

            LOL Incapable of strategic thought? So letting in subversive enemies is now ‘strategic thought’, judlein? Sweet Jesus, I mean I knew Israel’s average IQ was only 94 and most of you rats are inbred dune coons but I never thought you rats would come up with something so astoundingly stupid to justify your presence in our movement, this is seriously on the level of negroes roflmao.

          • A. wyatt mann

            “letting in subversive enemies”

            lol no. Adopting jewish tactics and using them against the jews is not “letting in subversive enemies”

            Imagine military officers in training throwing the art of war in the garbage because “some chink wrote it”

            Thats basically you. you are dumb. Drink gasoline

          • Purus Sanguis

            Listen, Jew, I am not going to ‘adopt jewish tactics’ of spamming filth and depravity to demoralize people and targeting women and children like a feckless coward, I am not going to ‘tolerate’ your presence because some half-jew says I should, and I am not going to play nice with you because it ‘looks good’.

          • A. wyatt mann

            then prepare to lose with your silly little principles. “total aryan victory” doesnt have a disclaimer at the bottom “but you cant do X or behave like Y”

            If you are not prepared to do everything possible for victory you are a loser with a loser mindset.

            Again. I ask you to figure out how a extreme minority managed to TAKE OVER THE WORLD despite being widely despised and hated.

            I ask you if you would rather your race DIE than adopt these tactics to take back control of the planet.

            If your reaction to this exploratory thought process is shitting your pants and blasting skrewdriver out your window I nor anybody else can help you.

          • Purus Sanguis

            LOL Figure it out? Really? That is the best you have got? It’s easy if you actually pick up a history book and read between the lines, you rodents controlled the bank system and global economy since at least the 1600s when you installed your shabbos goy Cromwell as dictator of England.

          • A. wyatt mann

            “muh banking”
            What are you going to do about the jews who control the banking system? will you destroy it and make every white person in the west homeless and starving? or will you seek to control it.

            There is one answer that is correct.

          • Purus Sanguis

            What do you think I will do? Pat them on the back and send them on their merry way? LOL Besides, everyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows that we Aryans can and will re-organize the banks along the principles laid out by Gottfried Feder, and that is what scares you more than anything.

          • A. wyatt mann

            “scares me” i never once disagreed with you on banking. Im simply asking you why instead of seeking to control it and implement the policies you want. You would instead seek to destroy it , and destroy 100 years of white wealth and real estate accumulation and making everyone homeless , increasing the chance our race could be exterminated.

          • Purus Sanguis

            LOL Yeah $5.50 of debt for the tribe to control for every dollar in circulation is totally a good thing for whites, right? Jesus, you’re either as dumb as a box of rocks or a writing from a script. Here’s a thought for you to consider, Shlomo – under National Socialism we reversed 15-20 years of your enslavement and detrimental policies in 3 1/2 years under Feder’s system, and before you start whining about how we did it with military build up I am going to state here and now that 1.5% of the German GDP was spent on re-arming.

            And yes, the idea of us taking back control of our economies and destiny scares you more than anything. You can’t stand the idea of being forced to work for a living like the rest of us because you are a blood sucking parasite and you know you will shrivel up and die without a host to feed on.

          • Shitlord Matt

            Literally a ReneTard loser. GTFO and go back to Renegade.

          • A. wyatt mann

            oh he is? i regret commenting.

          • Purus Sanguis

            Yeah, of course you do, that is why you have to use socks to like your own comments and use consensus cracking to salvage being made to look like a fool on your own platform LOL

          • A. wyatt mann

            dude the family you get info from literally engaged in race treason with black bucks. Sinead is a unhinged miscegenator and kyle enables her niggerloving. They also think the earth is flat. I was willing to engage you in conversation not knowing that you were part of the renegade cult of black bucks and flat earth i see its now a mistake

          • Purus Sanguis

            So now you are trying to smear me with being part of some group I don’t even know about? Really getting desperate huh, shlomo? No, I think for myself, I study history, I read primary sources, and come to my own conclusions, something you let your Rabbis do for you since you are all inbred imbeciles.

            P.S. – The earth isn’t flat, moron.

          • Purus Sanguis

            Come on hymie, why don’t you disprove my FACTS about the banking system instead of crying and slandering? Is your ‘master race high IQ’ not enough for you to debate a lowly goy like me? LOL

          • A. wyatt mann

            because the original argument had nothing to do with banking. You were saying “we shouldnt use subversion because its jewish” you got blownthefuckout and then changed the argument to banking because you were embarrassed and wanted to show everyone how many articles you read on banking

          • Purus Sanguis

            You aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed are you, shlomo? There is a difference between defending myself against Jews such as yourself and using pornography, depravity, lies, slander, and mass murder like you do.

            P.S. – keep using socks for upvoting if that makes you feel good about yourself, won’t make you any less of a moron, shlomo.

          • Shitlord Matt

            Wait is this race mixing a current thing for them? Proof?

          • Purus Sanguis

            Keep crying 🙂 and I don’t know what ‘renetard’ is or ‘renegade’. I am my own man, juden.

          • Doctor Mayhem

            I gotta disagree on the idea that destruction of the banking system would cause our race to risk extermination. Eh… It would hurt like a motherfucker, but I think total collapse of our banking, society, and economy would lead to a great reset that would likely kickstart the beginnings of the next Great White Culture. Considering how poverty and war also creates K-selection, traditional gender roles, tribalism, and just better people in general, I don’t see a real downside, other than the fact we’ll all be poorfags cannibalizing our mexican neighbors for a little while.

            (I already got plans to do so when Collapse hits)

          • Purus Sanguis

            Germany recovered within 3 1/2 years and came back stronger than ever once the N.S.D.A.P. got hold of the banks. Look up Gottfried Feder’s manifesto for the abolition of enslavement to interest on money. Jews like “A. wyatt mann” don’t want you to read it or realize the dangers of usury, hence his scare tactics of ‘oy vey if you get rid of usury you’re done goyim!’ (probably because Israhell will panic and nuke us).

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            …and destroy 100 years of JEWISH wealth and real estate accumulation and making every JEW homeless…

            There, I fixed it for you and yes, this sounds like a great idea

          • Emerald Will

            Everything possible..

            How far are you willing to go?

          • Shitlord Matt

            “Thats basically you. you are dumb. Drink gasoline”

            *spits out drink, begins laughing hysterically*

          • Purus Sanguis

            nice sock shlomo, might want to try and build it up a bit so it’s more believable, though.

          • Tragic Comedy

            There is a significant degree of conceptual space between ignoring the strategies of your enemy and adopting them yourself.
            One is certainly foolish, strategically, but the other has significant potential for similar folly, albeit perhaps contextually different in nature.

          • Ike35

            I had told you to calm your bodacious tatas earlier, I take it back, don’t calm them, you’re doing fine.

          • Purus Sanguis

            Let me guess, you think usury and debt currency is ‘strategic economics’ too, right saujuden? ROFLMAO

          • A. wyatt mann

            I want to see white nationalists in control of global banking yes. Im not a fan of the racoon pelt white nationalist economy

          • Purus Sanguis

            LOL So you have no understanding of macro-economics or how our banking system works, and yet I am stupid? Good God, Shlomo….what happened to all those smart hasbarats from like 3-4 years ago? Pay wasn’t good enough so they moved on?

          • Don Gates

            “racoon pelt white nationalist economy.” A good one. Gave me a good laugh that I badly needed. You got that right. Many in our movement do not understand economics above the hand to hand, stone age barter economic model.

          • David Hollizzle

            yea, that would get owned in like an instant in any conflict

          • Tragic Comedy

            I think I finally understand the memes revolving around you being a retard.

          • MyHyde

            Most do.

          • Purus Sanguis

            Yeah after 80 years of Jewish indoctrination.

          • Ike35

            I’m sure your slippery slope to nowhere will do just fine.

        • All of the Founding Fathers of the USA were White Nationalist liberals.

          • Krafty Wurker

            Liberals in the 18th century sense of the term. Which is considerably different than the meaning of the term liberal today. Plus, the Founding Fathers were White Nationalists, and racists. Heck, Ben Franklin wasn’t even sure Germans were White. LOL. Seriously. See his autobiography.

          • Thim Page

            Bull. Patrick Henry was no liberal. George Wythe was no liberal. Washington was by no stretch any kind of liberal, though he was a mason. And a long list of them were not nationalists. But I cannot think of a single one who wanted anything other than a white Union.

          • Republicanism was the liberalism of their day, and all of them were white nationalists.

            “I cannot think of a single one who wanted anything other than a white Union.”

            Because they were white nationalists.

            “Washington … was a mason.”

            Yeah, and?

          • Catiline_Conspirator

            Their liberalism undermined their white nationalism.

          • Except for the fact that most Americans – even the liberal ones – were essentially White nationalists for the entire history of America until the generation that grew up on TV. They abandoned the liberalism of their European heritage and embraced cultural Marxism, which is an anti-liberal ideology.

            Simply compare and contrast with the Europeans that colonized Latin America. They did not have the Enlightenment heritage and race-mixed from day one.

          • Catiline_Conspirator

            Their liberalism paved the way for cultural Marxism, which is ultra-liberal not anti-liberal. Latin America is a red herring. It has been under the thumb of Britain/America for 2 centuries. Compare Maine and Mississippi or Quebec and Haiti and you’ll find the same differences. Nothing to do with anything we’re talking about here.

          • I was using the term “liberal” in the historical sense, you are using the term “liberal” in the Rush Limbaugh sense.

            Latin America was miscegenating long before and quite independently of the influence of Britain or America.

          • Catiline_Conspirator

            History repeats itself. Again, Latin America and the US are as Maine and Mississippi or Quebec and Haiti.

        • Jack Sen

          The Alt right is a joke and full of liberals. Theres like one testicle between the whole
          movement. Alt right is a SJW movement for angry white males who like
          other angry white males. its made the news only bc it has hurt trumkp./
          once it ceases to it will fade into obscurity along with green frogs and
          people like johnson and spencer

      • Cat Ruby

        There were sodomites who respected heterosexuality, believe me or not.
        I knew them when they were happy & gay & boasted being counter-culture. Gay separatists. Then NAMBLA infiltrated the communities and funded GayUSA. Today, vetting on an individual basis is necessary. Perhaps that’s the tolerance Richard Spencer does and I’m with him.

        • Purus Sanguis

          There is no such thing as a ‘good’ sodomite. Sodomites are pedophiles and pedophiles are sodomites (over 70% of all pedophiles arrested in the U.S. are sodomite and over half of all sodomites have admitted to being recruited as children by pedophiles). To become a sodomite you have to be recruited by a pedophile, it is the only way to become one.

      • Reinout van Hulst

        Spencer does not have to do anything. You think you know better than Spencer, you build your own (one man) movement, boy.

        • Jack Sen

          The Alt right is a joke. Theres like one testicle between the whole
          movement. Alt right is a SJW movement for angry white males who like
          other angry white males. its made the news only bc it has hurt trumkp./
          once it ceases to it will fade into obscurity along with green frogs and
          people like johnson and spencer

      • Adolphin ++

        I believe Spencer spoke about the non-degenerate ones so I don’t see any problem at all.

        Homos are 1% of the population and so why even bother giving them any attention. Stop wasting your energy on them.

  • A. wyatt mann

    we must secure the existence of our bathhouses and a future for twink prostitutes

    • Hammerheart

      Oi, that is so wrong!! LOL

  • Peter

    As regrettable as these altercations are… the subject behind is: the question of subversion.
    … so…: this is pretty much unsolvable. We´ll hardly ever know if an accusation is substantiated, or if it´s only a smear
    -> so here´s what came to my mind: we´ll mainly have to concentrate on the CONTENT. To bring our ideas to the masses.

    And we have to be aware that there will always be attempts to infiltrate our movement and to subsequently damage members of our movement.
    I don´t think there´s a final answer to that problem. Any participant who has clear evidence shall present it to the community to form an opinion about it.

  • mike5586

    I like Greg Johnson’s articles, he’s articulate and like someone below me said even if I don’t agree with him on everything his writing never ceases to be enjoyable, but let’s be clear – he isn’t a leader.

    Leading requires the willingness to put your neck out their on the line. Not something most are willing to do, because it comes with the risk that someone might take a sword to it. Personally I’m not a fan of Anglin for various reasons, but I would never have anything bad to say about him if asked, because 1) you don’t go for your own ideological bedfellows, 2) he publicly stands up for his un-p.c. beliefs, which is more than 99% of people anonymously commenting online will do.

    For that reason alone men like Spencer and Friberg have infinitely more credibility. Even on anonymous image boards and forums where everyone is criticized for everything, it seems to be a common refrain whenever Spencer gets brought up – people will reply: “Yeah, but at least he’s doing something.”

    Never underestimate the respect you get by leading from the front as opposed to being an idea guy. Both are needed, but they’re not equal positions of honor.

  • Evolver1

    Some of us have adopted the ethical position that we try to never criticize individuals and groups if they are truly pro-White. This can usually help us spot infiltrators who are trying to destroy the movement.

    Some facts here from those in the movement who are objective–Kevin MacDonald?–for instance might help many of us sort this out.

  • Halford Mackinder

    First of all, you can never trust a homosexual, and afaik, that is what Greg is – all of his great contributions aside. So don’t be shocked when he engages in infantile or self-destructive behavior. That said, Arktos media is not part of the Alt Right. Daniel Frieberg is not part of the Alt Right. For a while last year, Arktos was involved with a really shitty website called “righton.net” that had attacked the Alt Right several times. Even though Arktos denied being associate with them in an email to me, guess where the righton.net links point to now? https://www.righton.net/2016/02/20/the-alternative-right-an-autopsy/

    in February of 2016, Daniel Frieberg and whoever else was running “righton.net” (which now points to altright.com) was literally attacking the Alt Right and pronouncing it dead.

    Dear Alt Right Brothers: Be Warned: Daniel Frieberg and his Iranian partner ARE NOT ALT RIGHT – they are hangers-on who saw a successful movement and attempted to latch on to it. Now Richard has apparently been digested by these men. Be extremely skeptical of any narrative that comes from these two. Spencer made a huge mistake by shuttering Radix. He should let Frieberg and Shah Reza Whatever do what they want with this site and start working with Lawrence Murray and Hannibal Bateman again.

    • Two corrections: 1) We never denied association with RightOn.net, just stated that it was two separate companies, with different board members and shareholders. 2) We never “repeatedly attacked the alt-right”, as far as I know it happened in one article. Most other articles were positive toward the alt-right, and the guests we had on our podcast further proves this point. Have you even read my book? I have personally always identified with the alt-right brand, and promoted it in Europe for several years. Why do you think we founded the AltRight Corporation together with Richard Spencer et al to begin with?

      • Halford Mackinder

        Daniel I’ve been chatting with one of my guys who has corrected me on a few things. I deleted my above comment and some other ones. Please accept my apology.

  • lufAdmin

    Some of Greg Johnson’s behavior here definitely sounds suspect, but….

    Do you really want to be positively associated with Andrew Anglin and Daily Stormer. Really? That website is like a caricature an enemy might make to help anti-whites.

    The whole point of nationalism is being selective and having standards – someone like Anglin won’t get entry into any self-respecting nation.

    • Halford Mackinder

      Dude GTFO with you cucky Collin Liddell-tier nonsense. Anglin is the President of the Alt Right. If you don’t like it, start doing better work than him and you will get the job.

      • AWyattGuy

        Anglin is Jewish. His only female companions in the last 10 years have been poor Filipino girls.

        • Halford Mackinder

          lmao. Is that you Collin? You guys need to update your binder.

    • WHAT

      Still hunting for those good goy points, I see.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      “Do you really want to be positively associated with Andrew Anglin and Daily Stormer. Really? That website is like a caricature an enemy might make to help anti-whites.”

      Hi RamzPaul! Have you moved permanently to Hungary to take advantage of their lower age of consent?

  • Yehudah Finkelstein
    • オスカー

      The reason as to why mr Johnsson asked Matt Parrott to do a 23&me test, I don’t know, but I do know his stance on jews according to previous writings, and it is as follows.

      “Jews have attained hegemony over white societies by infiltrating,
      subverting, and transforming the whole political spectrum into defenders
      of Jewish interests. Thus, in terms of vital Jewish interests, it
      really does not matter which party attains power. It is sheer folly to
      think that Jews will not seek to do the same thing to all forms of
      European and White Nationalism. Since there is no sure way to tell a
      sincere Jewish sympathizer or ally from a mere agent of subversion, we
      simply must exclude all Jews and go it alone.

      Thus it simply does not matter if a Jewish counter-jihadist or would-be
      White Nationalist protests that he is genuinely concerned to promote
      white interests, because that’s what any infiltrator would say.”

      Similarly, his stance on Doxers and where his attitude towards mr Spencer and his wife changed, can also be found on previously published texts and in the comment sections.

      source: https://www.counter-currents.com/2012/10/innocence-of-muslims-guilt-of-jews-interests-of-whites/

  • Halford Mackinder

    I’m not a particular fan of Greg Johnson, but this article is sad and reflects really poorly on altright.com. The fact that you can’t keep this private is really telling.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      It’s been out in the open for a week. Because of Grindr Greg. You know slander is usually met with with counter attacks, right?

      • Halford Mackinder

        Brother, I read every Alt Right article on every site, and there’s nothing like this. People are going to talk on twitter or whatever, but publishing an article about your (probably intra-homo) hissy-fits is embarrassing.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          It was on a public forum. For a week. Grindr Greg was asked to provide evidence and failed to do so. Accusing someone of doxxing conference organizers to the Antifa is a very serious charge.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Then why tf didn’t Daniel Frieberg make a FORUM POST ON THE PUBLIC FORUM, in response and leave it at that? lolololol

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Who knows? Maybe he doesn’t read TRS. Point remains, accusing someone of doxxing to the Antifa and placing people at the risk of physical harm is very serious.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Yeah, except the number of people who had any clue that this happened was tiny in comparison to the number of people who know about it now. Its so woman-like to feel the need to publicly rebuke someone who insults you.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Getting barred from a conference by an anonymous faggot who accuses you of doxxing to the Antifa is not bush league B.S. And Grindr Greg has pulled these stunts for years. Anyone’s tolerance for Grindr Greg should be at an end.

          • Halford Mackinder

            You keep avoiding the issue: what Greg may have done may have been shitty (and what else would you expect from a homosexual?) but the point is that these kinds of things should be KEPT PRIVATE. Don’t go out of your way to publish articles about them. It serves no one but the enemy. I really thought we had gotten past this, but Frieberg and Iranian buddy must not have gotten the memo?

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Something can’t be kept private if it is in fact public.

          • Halford Mackinder

            I’m starting to think you really are a Jew by how retarded you pretend to be. A thing can be in the public but that does not mean amplifying it with more articles is a good idea. Forget it. I’m talking to an autistic person.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Good to see you admit that this was not kept private.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Why can’t you admit that it is bad to amplify flame wars? If you were anything other than sub-par specimen of the white race you would be able to admit that without being defensive.

          • Who knows? Maybe he doesn’t read TRS.

            Really? Are you simply trolling this website? The mention of TRS is one of the first sentences in the article.

            All this article will end up doing is bringing out the trolls, cantankerous cynics and misanthropes and give them an excuse to bitch and complain about someone or some facet of the Alt-Right.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            The question was asked why Friberg waited a week to respond. Do you really think Friberg reads every thread on the TRS forum? Someone probably brought it to his attention, he then attempted to contact Grindr Greg through email and resolve this, to no avail.

          • I did not contact Greg, since it is obvious what he is trying to do and no words from me except “I surrender and give my publishing company to you, as well as acknowledge you as the Great Leader Of The Alt-Right” would have any effect on him, which I am for obvious reasons not inclined to write. Attacking me out of nowhere with serious and unsubstantiated allegations showed what he was aiming for. Now we are asking him to back those serious allegations up, or apologize and retract his accusations. We could have gone out much stronger, but prefer moderation and resolving things. Now the ball is in his corner.

          • I like TRS and listen to their podcasts. I don’t however frequent their forum, simply due to lack of time. This particular thread was recommended to me by a TRS guy, and obviously I read it, considering the gravity of the accusations leveled at me.

          • I made a statement through another user, since I do not have an account on the TRS forum or any other forum. I simply don’t have time for forum activities or flame wars. This is the platform we will use for making public statements, and I don’t see the difference between posting an article or posting in a completely public thread available to the entire Internet. Are you saying that me and Richard should become forum warriors instead of writing articles, when the effects and reach are basically the same? I fully expect Greg to respond — hopefully substantiating his serious allegations or apologizing — through his own website. Or, since we are in the same city at the moment, call me up to arrange a meeting and settle things like real men instead of writing nasty accusations on the Internet, which is kind of gay.

          • Halford Mackinder

            ” I simply don’t have time for forum activities or flame wars”

            Self-evidently false. I would have liked to see you be the bigger man and ignore Greg’s drama – which those of us who have been in the Alt Right for more than 18 months know of well. Look at what you started in the comment section here. And you say you don’t have time for flame wars….I want to give you the benefit of the doubt Daniel, but you’ve given me no reason to do so.

          • Halford Mackinder

            “call me up to arrange a meeting and settle things like real men instead
            of writing nasty accusations on the Internet, which is kind of gay.”

            How many levels of self-unawareness are you on Daniel?

          • Pioneer American

            THEN ALTRIGHT.COM SHOULD HAVE MADE THEIR STATEMENT THERE, TOO. Then roughly the people who saw one side would see the other, and everyone else would have been blissfully ignorant and no dirty laundry would have been aired publicly.

            And may I say, the public part of the TRS forums hardly has the reach of … well any public facing website, let alone altright.com.

  • Evolver1

    Here’s where I draw lines: No Jews/No Homosexuals.

    I only support Whites who promote Whiteness and the multiplication of Whites only. All else is secondary.

    • Aurelius

      No muslims or white converts to islam either.

      • Kyndelw Stiùbhart

        That disqualifies Rene Guenon and Frithjof Schuon, I guess.

        • WSER 9

          neither were/are white nationalists….

          • Kyndelw Stiùbhart

            Precisely why their input was valuable.

      • @realAmerikaner

        If you accept a mud ideology you become a mud.

    • Charlie Primero

      > No Jews/No Homosexuals.

      A good, effective, simple rule for good reasons.

    • Purus Sanguis

      I also draw the line with pedophiles like Andrew Anglin –
      http://www.liveleak.com/vie… – Anglin with Filipino prostitute and bragging that she is underage.

      • Cledun

        He has repeatedly addressed this on his website, and by refusing to engage with that, you are a liar.

      • Goblin

        The word “pedophilia” refers to pre pubescent humans.

    • Purus Sanguis

      Also, here is a video of Anglin claiming he wants to destroy the white race and is only attracted to negresses – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQsmF5AFvXo

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        What does Anglin have to do with Grindr Greg’s Swedish Meatballs?

        • Purus Sanguis
        • Ghetto Tarzan

          It’s just Renetard losers spamming the comments. No one pays attention to them unless they throw public fits.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Renetard = Amren?

          • Ghetto Tarzan

            Renegade broadcasting.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Never heard it.

          • invincible white owl

            You’re fortunate.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I don’t read Counter-Currents either. Amren has some good articles but the commenters there are awful.

          • invincible white owl

            I read CC & Amren on occasion, but my more frequent reads are Altright.com, the Stormer, & again lately TRS. I have to admit though, podcasts & videos have a way better chance of catching my ear than articles/essays/etc.

          • Ike35

            and you should keep it that way trust me.

          • Rudeforthought

            No, renegade is Sinead McCarthy’s and Kyle Hunt’s containment zone for losers. They literally believe in a flat earth and are closet feminists (as you can tell by man and wife having separate names). Kyle and Sinead are mentally ill and have sporadic outbursts. They occasionally venture out to fling excrement at others. There was a good 5 long video of her and her husband screaming incoherently at some guy, although I’m not sure where it went.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            OK, sorry for associating Jared Taylor with those fucktards.

          • BunnyMags

            Don’t worry. I got it 🙂

          • StraitlacedMissouri

            I don’t listen to that…

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Too Much Whiskey for that psycho mick?

          • red

            Wow I never heard this before. I always thought they were a bit potty.

          • Ike35

            Yeah, just a wee bit.

          • Ike35

            LOL!!!! Someone sure needs to shut the fuk up but it’s not Michelle.

          • Manuel_Venator

            Somebody should sample this and make a Whitehouse-style power noise track out of it (“A Cunt Like You” would be a perfect title as well).

          • Ike35

            Yeah they’re a couple of real peaches, but I do appreciate them corralling the mental defects away from the rest of us. Maybe they’re actually totally selfless people taking one for the team this way?! Nayyyyyy!

      • Jörð

        He’s so fake!

    • ))) Depeche Europa (((

      Amen, Brother…..

  • Riopel

    Greg runs a decent site, but he picks fights with everyone. The dude has issues.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      Greg has periodic outbursts like this when his immune system is compromised.

      • Pioneer American

        Your run of cheap shots isn’t any better, youngster. Learn moderation, and keep your attacks at the level of argument.
        edit: yes I just did what I accused you of, called you a ‘youngster’. But I’d bet any money you’re < 25 years old.

    • Riopel

      On the other hand, I appreciate that Greg is one of the few alt right leaders who isn’t a shill for the mass mongrelization project known as “Russia,” unlike *cough* some alt righters.

      • WHAT

        >everyone not agreeing with me is Putin

        • Riopel

          Straw man.

          • WHAT

            Just a mirror.

  • Halford Mackinder

    Off Topic but just a reminder to everyone that in February of 2016, Daniel Frieberg was using the forerunner to altright.com, righton.net, to promote the idea that the Alt Right was dead. See below:

    https://www.righton.net/2016/02/20/the-alternative-right-an-autopsy/

    Isn’t it odd that he’s trying to position himself as some kind of leader in a movement his own website declared dead less than a year and a half ago?

    Oh and did anyone else think it was weird that altright.com went live on the exact day that the attempt to doxx/decapitate TRS was made?

    • This was an article by a guest writer at RightOn, which had a very wide scope regarding writers and opinions.

      I clearly stated at the time, publicly and openly, that I disagreed with this analysis. For example as a response on a direct question from Colin Liddell, which can be verified.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        I want an echo chamber where the Alt Right is never criticized!

      • Halford Mackinder

        Any comment on the suspicious timing of the launch of altright.com coinciding with the attempt on TRS? Speaking personally, I don’t think you guys knew, but it does look extremely (((coincidental))).

        • Crud Bonemeal

          I was kind of suspicious about the timing too, but it kind of looks like a coincidence… they haven’t really followed through with any sort of coup attempt

      • Halford Mackinder

        Hi Daniel, I’ve deleted and edited some of my more intemperate comments. I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

    • Pioneer American

      Upvote for that piece of knowledge, but having skimmed it, it’s up-front criticism, nothing subversive or poisonous.

  • jimmyt

    Hype gets clicks, clicks get money.

    Even the “new” media falls under the spell of creating drama and infighting to promote themselves at the honor of others.

    CC and Richard have both done this.

    Neither has any sort of economic policy and until they do , neither are worthy of being “leaders” of the movement.

    • Crud Bonemeal

      It’s pointless to fight about economics right now

  • BunnyMags

    My, my. Seems the Greg Internet Defense Force has come out. Every sexual deviant who’s ever published an article on Counter Currents is bound to show up moaning and caterwauling about Greg’s indelible genius and the lack of decorum or propriety of Spencer’s response. Meanwhile, Queen Greg himself might show up in the comments and berate users for not posting under their real names. The anticipation is killing me.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      Should be called Greg Rapid Internet Defence Squad. Or GRIDS.

      • John

        More like the anti-GRIDs are out in force.

        You guys probably take your cues from the JIDF – causing division among WN sites.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          Who’s the White Nationalist “leader” who launches bitter diatribes against his colleagues from time to time?

        • Cledun

          >Greg causes division
          >Greg experiences backlash for causing division
          >Gregs harem accuses people of being divisive for rejectiong Gregs divisiveness

          Rinse, repeat

    • Halford Mackinder

      No Bro, most of us aren’t defending Greg or his behavior. We’re criticizing altright.com for not being able to keep this private. Just because people have been talking about it doesn’t mean it needs to be amplified by publishing an article about it. I’ve never liked Greg. But you know what? I’m extremely suspicious of the way Frieberg has tried to insinuate himself into this movement by latching on to Spencer. His old website, righton.net, pronounced the Alt Right dead in February of 2016, so why the hell should I listen to anything this opportunist has to say?

      • Rascal

        These accusations posted on a public forum 8 days ago…. Without proof I might add.

        • Halford Mackinder

          Why do you all keep side-stepping the point? The ONLY point being made here is that there is nothing to be gained from giving oxygen to these petty brushfires. The fact that you people can’t assent to that simple fact shows your bad faith.

          • Rascal

            If that is all you care about than go to counter currents and complain to Greg, considering he is the one making public accusations without any proof. If someone is publicly accusing you of something you have a right to defend yourself as far as I am concerned.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Jesus you just can’t help yourself, can you?

          • Rascal

            You say you care about airing dirty laundry in public, and so do I. That is why I am pointing out the one who did it in the first place. That would be Greg.

            Not sure why you are criticizing the people being publicly accused for defending themselves.

  • Purus Sanguis

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQsmF5AFvXo – Anglin admitting he is a marxist and only likes Black women, promoting anti-white hatred.

    2. http://www.liveleak.com/vie… – Anglin with Filipino prostitutes and bragging that she is underage.

    3. http://pdfsr.com/pdf/andrew… – Anglin on forums and on facebook openly displaying his perverse predilection towards pedophilia.

    4. http://marc.info/?l=full-di… – Andrew ‘Weev’ Auernheimer exposed by FBI agent, his own mother calls him a self-hating Jew and refuses to meet agents without her Rabbi present. All this information is easily verifiable with simple google searches, including evidence of multiple negro siblings and multiracial ancestry.

    Before calling me a Jew or a shill, disprove any of this evidence.

    • Halford Mackinder

      Are you happy now, altright.com? Did you get what you wanted? You’ve embolded these faggots^^^^ to come out and do their thing again after having been silenced months ago.

      • Purus Sanguis

        You are defending a pedophile who has picture and video evidence of him saying he’s only attracted to underage negresses and a Jew who told the main stream media his next major project would be to subvert WNism ‘for the lulz’.

      • Is it true, Yes or No?

        • Halford Mackinder

          Is what true? That some dude posted an hour long video from 5 years ago? GTFO. All of you Anglin haters are such sad, petty little things. And you all congregate together and back each other up by citing non-sense that was debunked a long time ago. Just get over your butthurt dude. Anglin isn’t going anywhere. It is you softies that are on the outside looking in on our movement.

          • I asked you whether or not there was any truth to it. You respond with this? That’s insecurity or at least some level of being unsure.

          • Halford Mackinder

            The one you and Hipster Racist and Collin Liddell and Brett Stevens are not a part of.

          • You’re gonna have to be more specific.

          • You mean’s “The Weev Troll Movement?”

            Glad I never joined that clown show.

        • Cledun

          None of it is true. Anglin has addressed all of this repeatedly on his website. Purus is twisting things because he has a personal bone to pick, which makes him a liar, and every bit as worthy of ostracism as Johnson.

          • John

            Weev is Jewish. How are you going to shill for that?

  • Crud Bonemeal

    Johnson produces some content that some people may find valuable, but unfortunately he has a very long track record of eventually fighting with anyone and everyone in the movement. And during those fights he has a tendency to resort to petty lies, drama and misleading statements. You’d expect better than this sort of teen girl behavior, but unfortunately that’s part of “the real Greg”.

    Read his website if you want, but don’t go into business with him, and don’t take the wholesome “podcast Greg” as representative of the full picture.

    I wouldn’t buy a used car from Friberg either, but his track record is less well known, at least to me.

  • Charlie Primero

    For greater good ask, W.W.H.H.D.

    What would Himmler and Heydrich do? 🙂

    • Pioneer American

      > night of long knives
      I don’t think things have gone that far 🙂

  • BunnyMags

    And it also seems the merry mental midgets of Renegade have launched an all out offensive. All we need is a handful of VNN personalities and we’ll have a full-house of places Greg has been kicked out of. Although he may have had the good sense to leave Firestarter/Renegade upon realizing he was dealing with unmedicated psychotics.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      VNN still exists?

    • White Mothership

      What does VNN stand for?

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Vanguard News Network. It was like Stormfront, but insane. VNN was started by the psychotic Alex Linder. VNN made the Daily Stormer look like AmRen.

  • Herr Schmidt

    A homosexual is starting needless drama in the movement? You don’t say.

    • Drama isn’t a perpetual force. It’s dissonance, which takes constant agitation from different angles to give it life and make it grow.

      • ChippyMcBarkles

        is that you Gregory?

        • No. Do you need me to be Greg to make a point?

          • ChippyMcBarkles

            no but he does

      • Marquis the Renegade

        Its not “the movement” its the homosexuals protecting themself and their own. Which Greg Johnson can do since hes gotten real life information on several people in the white nationalist movement. Greg Johnson was able to do it by lying about knowing someone in the White House, he said that the Trump administration needed someone from the WN movement and that he has the connetions to bring someone in. Which turned out completely false. If Greg has doxing information than hes abusing his position of power and must be purged for the greater good.

  • marijan

    All you anti DailyStormer and Anglin faggots need to go. You are not AltRight. You’re a cuck or you are a commie fag

  • Halford Mackinder

    My sole criticism here is that there’s no need to write articles about intra-Alt-Right flame wars. Friberg is Alt Right. I take back what I said before when I said he wasn’t. Maybe he wasn’t always, but he is now. So he needs to be the bigger man and realize that infantile homosexuals create drama. There’s no need to amplify it for our enemies to feast on. That’s all I’m saying.

  • MyHyde

    Maybe it’s the Jews.

  • Emblematic

    What false-hearted preciousness. Sniffing and pretending to be above it all at the very same time you’re sticking the knife in. I appreciate both Counter Currents and Alt Right.com (and Radix) but frankly since Gregory Hood doesn’t seem to be contributing much lately the intelligence and the quality of the writing over at Counter Currents easily superior.

    • Halford Mackinder

      If Greg Hood starts publishing on Altright.com I will bury the hatchet.

      • itzmatthias

        Hood hasn’t even been writing at CC.

        • Halford Mackinder

          And its killing my spirit…..

    • itzmatthias

      Responding to constant allegations is false hearted preciousness?

  • ChippyMcBarkles

    this is a crazy article to see as a headline, after I have not looked at any extreme right wing website for a few weeks. I decided to shun all that is altright this was because I wrote a comment to Johnson’s article on the importance of anonymity, I criticized it and my comment wasn’t published and I couldn’t get a response to an email I sent to the editor at counter currents, who is Johnson. Here is the email I wrote him, I know I must sound like a real crackpot so I guess that is why he didn’t respond, or maybe it was because I didn’t ask a question… nevertheless he could not take any criticism I was used to having my comments deleted from mainstream media websites I thought I could say anything about my conservative political views on an ALT right website but when I found out that having a little difference meant getting shoahed I realized extreme conservatism is just a disease like extreme liberalism, maybe I will return now that I am reading an article like the above that stresses the importance of unity and real world action over small internet business quibbles.

    anyway here is the email I wrote to Johnson criticizing his article on doxing:

    Charles
    to editor
    13 days ago

    I tried posting a comment and saw that it got moderated in relation to this day’s doxxing article.

    I think I was confused as to what Greg Johnson meant by doxxing. I said everyone needs to be doxxed. Of course I meant it in the sense that more public representation is needed for the alt right. I certainly would want nobody to get their home addresses and telephone numbers given out to the world with the call to harrass them coming from antifa.

    When I said people need to be doxxed I did not mean the alt right needs to be attacked by antifa, I meant it as a call to action.

    This was my original comment:

    I really question the strength and influence of the white nationalist movement when the majority of people involved in it are lurking in the shadows. The best thing that could happen today is if everyone was doxxed. Then people would get to see if these ideas can really hold weight when confronted by actual power.

    I think the soft revolution, the gradualism, the ethnostate are all projections of the psycosis of the alt right. One day muh state! Questioning racial realities is an extremely isolating thing to do in the real world, the ethnostate is a mental image of that isolation coming to fruition, a cut off world that will produce Mozarts and Rembrandts, it is the fantastical dream of the madman. Gradualism is the justification of the problem, the weakness is admitted but oh can’t you tell the tide is changing?

    Europeans need to take back what is theirs. That cannot be done without sacrifice. Fear of losing money and family and friends is understandable. But stop giving too much importance to the online world and bloggers. The majority of the online ideas about white nationalism are written by people not as ready to fight as the primed masses. This does not mean an intelligent doctorine and online resource for the alt-right is not needed but if an idea is always kept within a closed circuit how can it have a lasting effect in shaping a society?

    • ))) Depeche Europa (((

      It is Dangerous for many to Undoxx….

      Families and Lives can be destroyed…

      We are a Radical Movement…..

      Remember…

      Regular White Republican Cucks are called Hitler……

      We are Far Beyond those Cucks….

      In time, Undoxxing will happen….

      Naturally…..

      As the movement gains numbers and wider acceptance…..

      • ChippyMcBarkles

        God help the ones that undox and become more radical than radical

        • ))) Depeche Europa (((

          Sometimes self-regulating our Radicalism is necessary……

  • ))) Depeche Europa (((

    Thank you, Richard and Daniel….

    For the risks to your life, well being, comfort, and safety…..

    ….you have taken by going Public…

    I don’t think we all truly appreciate how hard that must be….

    RESPECT……

    BIG TIME…..

    • invincible white owl

      Amen to this.

  • wotan237 .

    Worse than Greg Johnson’s sexual waywardness or the Alt Rights hi tolerance for Jews in general is that both are not keen on overthrowing the holocaust mythology that infects so many minds , and which so strongly empowers our anti whites (((enemies ))).

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      There’s been some Holocaust revisionism on this site. But the Holocaust narrative is collapsing for the simple fact that the Holocaust is receding into the distant past. Hardly anyone was alive when the “murder of the 6 million European Jews occurred.” Most young people don’t care about the Holocaust.

      • Ghetto Tarzan

        I don’t care is my default response. I won’t get bogged down in arguing over numbers. I’ve found that casual disinterest is more triggering to them than anything.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          Just bring up the fact that more Germans died in WWII than Jews. No one has ever been able to respond coherently when I bring that up. Then ask if some Jew who died in a work camp should be memorialized more than some German who was fire bombed and melted alive.

    • Halford Mackinder

      “Alt Rights hi tolerance for Jews”

      Dude WTF are you even talking about? Just because you make up things in your head doesn’t mean you should actually post them on the internet as if they were true. Wotan got overthrown because his people were weak and inferior. Don’t ever forget that.

      • wotan237 .

        What are you talking about ? Does the Alt Right have a hi tolerance for Jews or not ?

        • Ike35

          no

    • Pioneer American

      Enh, the way to win is to attract mainstream people, and you’re only going to scare them off if you start with holocaust denial or the Jewish Question. (I’m not sure where I stand on holocaust denial myself, not that anyone asked.) Jonathon Bowden himself said he ignores the holocaust – “I step over it!” – so that approach has a good pedigree.

    • Crud Bonemeal

      On the plus side, if you talk to the younger, more hardcore people in the movement, very few of them are still bought in to the mainstream narrative on this subject. Even if they are unsure of the history involved, they just don’t care.

      So maybe there is something to the idea of approaching the issue indirectly.

  • Peter

    I plead for a posting limit for @Yehudah Finkelstein, be it postings per hour, or postings per thread. His incessant purity spiraling reeks of undercover shill activity of the Soros et.al. faction.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      I am in fact a paid Soros operative here to discredit effective nationalists like RamzPaul.

  • Homosexuals get the bog.

  • Johnny Fascismo

    This is the first I’ve heard about this beef. I don’t like seeing this kind of infighting. I think our movement is still too small for this to be anything but destructive.

    That being said, Greg is not a public figure and therefore not a leader of the movement. If he doesn’t like what someone else says or does, he should probably keep his mouth shut and focus on running his own website. I’ve seen snide remarks he has made about others in the movement several times and it always bothers me. I always respected Richard more for not escalating the drama, and just ignoring it. CC is a good site and so is this. The movement would be better off with both sites doing well, not tearing each other down.

    • ThomasER916

      Just search for any discussion with Greg Johnson and Richard Spencer in the same panel. Greg always gets catty and attacks Special contradicting himself just to go after Spencer. In one discussion he attacked Spencer for saying that Europeans will see themselves as White which will transcend countries. This was before the invasion of Europe. Greg made it clear he doesn’t want European Unity because Spencer wants it. That is the kind of female cattiness that only a faggot could produce.

      Of course, time has proven Spencer correct. Two years later and Europe was invaded. Now Europeans are facing openly anti-White hostility from governments, cucks, Jews, Muslims, and POCs. It’s an identity they cannot escape except through miscegenation. Spencer was right. Greg Johnson was just a catty faggot.

      • Johnny Fascismo

        Yeah, I’ve definently seen Greg go after a lot of different people in the movement, usually for asinine and unfounded reasons. I wish he wouldn’t for reasons I’ve stated above, but thats just who he is I guess. It’s gay, but what are you going to do. Counter Currents is still a great website and an invaluable source for the movement. Still I wish Greg would stop acting like a teenage bitch in a perforated skirt all the time. I always see him going after others, and rarely see others saying much of anything about him.

        • Marquis the Renegade

          Yeah like if someone is against homosexuality in the movement for instance 😀

      • Hammerheart

        Good lord that’s so shocking [sarcasm] :/

    • tumbug

      Well said Johnny..bitchy cat-fighting is a bad look for fashy CIS goys. This critique would have been better suited with direct discourse to Greg (on public forum or privately).

      • Jack Sen

        the fact u said cis shows the alt right is doomed

    • David Hollizzle

      If the first you heard about it is now, then that’s really a good sign. That a power struggle didn’t rage out of control until it was basically done

  • Identitarian_Ethic

    There’s nothing in the article that suggests this is about Johnson’s alleged sexual orientation, yet for some reason people want to talk about homosexuality. Again. The lesson in this is much bigger than, “keep the fags out.”

    Toxic personalities are drawn to every movement and every group that does anything. There have been plenty of people with exactly the kinds of traits the article accuses Johnson of having that have wormed their way into white interest groups in order wreak great havoc and none of it had to do with their sexual attractions. This kind of chaos has actually been a defining theme of many pro-white groups that have come and gone and it’s one of the main reasons why “white nationalism” went absolutely no where.

    Our new movement must be better than its “predecessor” groups by studying and learning from their failures. We must have zero tolerance for toxic personalities. Let’s stop avoiding these topics just because we want to be polite and set professional standards.

    The Alt-Right is something entirely different than these older movements. We have to protect it from repeating the same mistakes.

    • yet for some reason people want to talk about homosexuality.

      This kind of article just gives the cynics, misanthropes, defects and dullards a convenient excuse to do what they’ve always done—create more tension and division that what is necessary to fix a problem. Surprisingly, the moronic strategy of growing by endlessly dividing never seems to work. I guess it’s not so much a strategy as much as it is a specific kind of mental defeciency.

      • Tragic Comedy

        You reek of the same snarky condescension one expects to find on a reddit devoted to Bernie Sanderstein.

        • I find it hard to believe I reek of anything. I have impeccable hygiene.

          • Tragic Comedy

            You can’t wash off faggotry my man.

          • How hard have you tried?

          • Tragic Comedy

            There’s that reddit snark I was talking about.

          • My comment history on this account isn’t private. Feel free to browse my history and tell me what unsavory and/or anti-White comments you find.

          • Tragic Comedy

            I don’t need to – your commentary here suffices. You were a hair’s breadth from whining about “purity spirals” in your arrogant shitpost, then engaged in exactly the sort of behavior you were decrying.
            Look, I’m not trying to start beef, just be less of a condescending douche, yeah? Good man.

          • What good are facts staring you in the face when you’ve got conjecture. Right? You’re the type of defect/dullard that I was referring to.

          • Tragic Comedy

            And right back to it he goes… Lost cause.

          • Would you have preferred the misanthrope/defect combo instead?

          • Tragic Comedy

            Never change.

          • Never need to.

          • Tragic Comedy

            It was true in your mind.

    • A. wyatt mann

      homosexuality isnt “Sexual attraction” its a deep psychological issue that manifests itself in dozens of different ways. Blocking homos as a principle isnt a bad idea because its basically extreme vetting for nutjobs. Since every homo is a nutjob

      • オスカー

        This: https://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/2008/PrenatalStress.htm is in the literature books in bio psychology and developmental psychology that we read in uni psych courses, as to the reason for homosexuality, studies are leaning to that there are both biological and social factors (brainwashing through media and culture) as to why some go homo.
        (the books that I read were printed 2008 and the other 2012)

        And the “sexual attraction” is due to the fetus started to develop the wrong brain type that did not fit with the biological already determined sex of the fetus, this was due to hormonal changes that the fetus received when the mother was overwhelmed by stress, during the first trimester (very important time for the development of the brain).

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          I think I heard 20 percent of Millenials identify as Homo. Pop Culture is obviously conditioning many people to turn gay.

          • オスカー

            Yes indeed, between 1-2% (interestingly that is also how many psychopath humans there are) of animals in nature are showing homosexual proclivities. And given the hereditarian that I am, I see no difference as to why it would be different among humans, we are after all also animals.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Some Bonobos are faggots so it stands to reason that some people are genetically homosexual.

      • Reinout van Hulst

        You don’t know what you are talking about.

      • A hymn to Hermes

        Dysfunctional sexual attraction in general, not just homosexuality, is comorbid with personality disorders.

    • invincible white owl

      Very sound comments.
      “Keeping fags out,” however much one might like that idea for its own sake, will NOT eliminate the possibility of divisiveness & internecine discord. The only way to do that is for every person in this Movement to think more vastly than just whatever momentary squabble or difference of opinions we encounter, & act in the best interest of the Movement as a whole, not just in the present moment but for the long run.
      Sometimes we might need to just hold our tongue & not get drawn into a conflict even if we’re tempted otherwise. Other times, such as seems to be the case here in regard to the accusations levelled at Daniel Friberg, putting one’s foot down may be necessary. The key is to just do so & then go forward without grudges/vendettas/etc.
      We’re all fighting for the same Cause; if we never let momentary disagreements obscure it from our constant seeing & striving, we will remain unified in our objectives regardless of our individual differences.

  • three fingers

    This is stupid. Greg Johnson has made useful contributions. He has also sometimes acted in a petty fashion. Richard and Daniel have also made useful contributions. They have also sometimes acted in a petty fashion. If the charge is desire to be “the leader”, I see this far more reflected in Richard’s behavior, particularly his inability to appreciate and comprehend alternate perspectives, particularly when it comes to Russia (his point-and-splutter responses of “are you serious? omg I can’t even” to not only Greg Johnson but also Henrik Palmgren’s differences with him concerning Russia are telling). This does not mean Richard is a bad guy, just that everyone involved in the movement has their own foibles, and that to deal with this we should all develop thick skins, work to defuse rather than aggravate situations, and fight the prideful tendencies which sometimes lead to internal movement conflict. The editor’s vainglorious boasting in the present post are not encouraging in this respect.

    • Tragic Comedy

      No amount of ‘contribution’ justifies faggotry.

  • @realAmerikaner

    Greg and Jack Donovan have been been counter signalling the alt right recently. Both are gay. But “oh jeez don’t worry about it Cismale, it’s just a 🌈🌈🌈coincidence🌈🌈🌈.” Jealousy, spreading rumours, and backstabbing your friends are all very feminine qualities, and it’s what happens when you let homos into your movement.

    • James OMeara

      Yeah, that’s how the cultural marxists lost, bigly!

      • JorgenVonStrangle

        “Gays helped jews get into power so we need them, sincerely, a homosexual.” Actually jews helped gays get into power.

        • Tragic Comedy

          Jewish Communists, to be specific. Whatchu know bout dat Mattachine Society mayne.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Ecce Negro and Homo!

      • Crud Bonemeal

        Just because you guys were effective at helping Jews destroy Western civilization, doesn’t mean that you’d be effective at rebuilding it.

        Maybe you’re better at tearing things down than building them up?

    • Identitarian_Ethic

      Jack Donovan was never one of us and said so from the beginning. He wrote some interesting things that coincided with some of our ideas and many in his audience came over to our movement as a result.

      • Hammerheart

        Uh Jack Donovan posed as “one of us”, played both sides of the field, tried to have his cake & eat it too, appearing at conferences & doing a lot of implying he’s really “one of us”, which has seemed very important to mr androphile.

    • Jack Donovan was spot on in his recent critique of White Nationalism/Alt-Right.

      • Rascal

        There was no critique. He was complaining about the very nature of White Americans, and I find it absolutely ridiculous when people like him complain about a group going against that grain.

        • Critique: a detailed analysis and assessment of something, especially a literary, philosophical, or political theory.

          Critique: an act of criticizing.

          Words matter, because words have meanings.

          • ThomasER916

            All critiques are magically good.

          • Rascal

            There was nothing really detailed about it. It boiled down to “White Americans are too individualistic”, and it was barely a paragraph.

  • (((Finkelstein)))

    Who the covfefe is Greg Johnson? Seems like a uck to me.

  • Not_your_avg_millennial

    Greg is a cuck. The guy doesn’t show his face. That says it all.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      It’s fine if one wants to be an Anon and write articles or sh!tpost. But Greg can’t expect to be viewed in the same light as Spencer, Friberg, Brad Griffin, or Anglin.

    • Tragic Comedy

      Technically, I think he’s more a fag than a cuck, but whatever.

    • Crud Bonemeal

      Don’t abuse the term “cuck”.

    • BunnyMags

      Well the problem is that if he did, there’d probably be an awkward article on Salon about “That Awkward Moment When the Guy You Met at the Gay Bar is a Secret White Supremacist” a week later

    • Reinout van Hulst

      Do you show your face? And please give us your personal details too.

      • Not_your_avg_millennial

        I am not trying to be a leader within the movement. For all we know Greg is a fraud. Come to the amren conference and you can meet me. I”ll be the extremely attractive one.

  • Tragic Comedy

    Look, I’m not much of an ‘alt-right’ guy to be honest, in that the average ‘alt-righter’ would probably think me an extremist. Such being the case, I’ll live up to that standard, by saying this: Big tent movements are not the answer, especially if they’re willing to make room for degenerates and other assorted undesirables.
    Ya can’t have fags and mischlings and people even SUGGESTING alliance with mischlings and kikes running around in your movement, no matter BASED NATIONALIST IN A TRUMP HAT they might be, and hope to avoid constant and ever-increasing drama and divisiveness.
    Unwavering ideals and upstanding fanatics > Big tent inclusiveness and degenerates

  • Arthur Vickstrom

    I used to live in one of America’s most gay-friendly cities. I got to know how gays work and there are a few things that every Nationalist needs to be aware of:

    1. Gays gravitate towards taboo movements, ideas, and imagery; this is part of why so many of them buy Nazi themed costumes (they are the #1 market for SS costumes).

    2. Because of their uniquely theatrical mentality, gays love the Fascist aesthetic. You won’t find a lot of gays in the Southern Nationalist movement or other ethnic Nationalist movements because those groups aren’t theatrical enough for them.

    3. Taking points 1 & 2 into account, the ‘Fashier’ your movement is the more gays will attempt to enter it. This is simply a fact. And once they enter it, they will begin causing drama.

    4. Many gays were abused as children or experienced social rejection at some point. This makes them very emotionally unstable. They will almost always eventually implode and you don’t want to be near them when this happens.

    5. Gays, being very narcissistic, tend to love personality cults (like the one Hitler created). This means that one of the best ways to keep them out of your movement is to show a bit of humility and stay grounded.

    • James OMeara

      Thanks for this very clear, entirely fact-based explanation of how all the fags fled the boring old Left and took up residence on the ever so exciting Right. The damage done to our movement by the likes of Hoover, Cardinal Spellman, Roy Cohn and Whittaker Chambers was incalculable, and we can never thank you alt-Right guys enough for cleaning house. Excelsior!

    • craicher

      This famous flamer in Sweden, Alexander Bard, was a male prostitute in Amsterdam. He said he would dress in an SS uniform and most of his customers where jews. True story as he tells it anyway.

      Also Jimmy Page used to dress in a SS uniform and hang out in gay bars. Not sure if he was sodomizing or being sodomized or just hanging out being the demon conjurer he was.

      Seems to me they are attracted to macho images. Funny seeing as they are fairies.

      In any case unless they are deep in the closet behind their mom’s old furs they have no place amoungst us. Most are child molesters and should be hung.

  • Hilbert

    About effing time! Greg has been toxic for too long. It’s sad, since his contributions have been admirable. But not so much as to compensate for causing schisms in the broader right.

  • Every once in a while it’s good to have a thread like this so we can see which internet handles take the bait:

    The idiot trolls from the (((Daily Stormer))) and Renegade Tribune both show up to attack each other, then to cry “don’t punch right” each pretending to be “to the right” of the other. (The reality is they are both simply low-effort internet trolls with zero redeeming qualities.)

    We have the Usual Suspects dragging their favorite enemies in for no apparent reason, such as the non-sequitur attacks on Colin Liddell and Paul Ramsey.

    We have the regular crowd showing up to tell us that they know which people are “secretly gay” – then go on to explain to us how they are totally, really, totally against sodomites, don’t ask how they know about the “secret gays” they were just doing research!

    But now that it’s out in the open, hopefully we can all go back to enjoying the good work at Counter Currents while continuing to ignore Johnson’s childish internet dramas, and keep working to make AltRight.com a superior alternative to the anti-white claptrap at The Atlantic and other anti-white online properties.

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      “We have the Usual Suspects dragging their favorite enemies in for no apparent reason, such as the non-sequitur attacks on Colin Liddell and Paul Ramsey.”

      Mocking Virtue Signallers is mean.

      • You are the biggest virtue signaler here, that’s all you do.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          You have a bad habit of parroting someone’s insult and repeating it back at them. Come back when you think of something original and learn what virtue signalling actually means.

          • You have already made it clear you don’t care about truth, merely insults. You said as much in this thread. I’m not trying to be “original” – I’m simply pointing out your own psychological projection. You cry “virtue signaling” as you virtue signal.

            What’s that old saying about “the Jew cries out as he strikes you?” That’s you.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            People don’t care about truth because truth is objective. Watch “Rashomon” to see that. Catchy insults stick in the mind and work. I can’t help you that you lack an understanding of what virtue signalling is. Attacking Anglin because of his comical over the top rhetoric is virtue signalling.

          • You always misuse the terms “cuck” “virtue signal” and “austism.” It’s not amusing it’s telling.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Did you know Hipster Racist writes really bizarre BDSM porno? Think I’m joking? https://hipsterracist.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/kinky-sex-fetish-a-manhattan-murder-mystery/

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Maybe he wrote it with Spencer while listening to the official band of the Alt Right??

          • Halford Mackinder

            Sometimes I worry about picking on HR because he’s got some serious self-doubt issues and its easy to drive people like that to self-harm. Please don’t ever actually hurt yourself HR, its just bantz.

          • Eh, sorry, I’m not old enough nor gay enough to be into Depeche Mode. Give me Florence + The Machine any day.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            The Beach Boys are the real band of the Alt Right. White AND Beach Privilege

          • craicher

            I hope that is a joke.

    • BunnyMags

      It’s always good to have a thread like this so we can see who the milquetoast fairweather PR cucks feigning superiority and claiming to be “above it all” are. As for your suggestion that one must be gay to correctly identify a homosexual who writes articles about how homophobia on the right is inherently semitic, I’ll leave that for others to mock.

    • Moishe-the-Beagle

      The amount of time you spend on here accusing people in the movement of being secret jews, one would almost think it was your full-time j–

      Oh, I see.

  • Jennifersbodhi

    Daniel Friberg is not only not anonymous, he is well known for his identitarian beliefs in Scandinavia and has been a public face and activist here for more than twenty years. One could say that if you want to track the far right history in Sweden for the last two decades you only need to study his activities since he pretty much single-handed reformed skinhead fanzine/music-culture to the academic suit and tie format. He is a generous drinking buddy and well liked even by his opponents. These are leadership qualities, not weaknesses. I disclose a picture from one of Swedens biggest newspapers from mr Fribergs youth when he was outed as a leading nazi. Note the date. Greg should at least show his face. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6f14d6cdf1335b5f5da1ac88355498e05d801becaa9fca281a068636a0c09916.png

    • Thanks for your support, Jennifer!

      • Jennifersbodhi

        np. Hierarchy and loyalty are basic concepts. Unless this is well understood the nation and its people are nothing.

        • Halford Mackinder

          Generally speaking, loyalty is something that has to be earned – not given away to someone you’ve only just met. The Alt Right is an American movement, and while we’re happy to have Daniel *join* it, he is not a leader of it – he is coming along for the ride. The European New Right to which he belongs is something qualitatively different than the Alt Right, which is an exclusively American phenomenon. Please, as a fair warning, do not try to hijack the Alt Right and turn it into effete, post-Modern New Rightism – you will fail badly and all of your brands will be irrevocably associated with Nazis when we’re done.

          • all of your brands will be irrevocably associated with Nazis when we’re done.

            A more open and honest explanation of the strategy of the (((Weev/Daily Stormer))) astroturf group has rarely been posted.

            Note too, the use of the term “Nazi” – don’t let them fool you, they have nothing to do with the German NSDAP, they are a Jewish-led Hollywood movement. They are simply Frances Cohen part 3.

          • Halford Mackinder

            HR you will always be on the outside of this movement looking in. I hope you’re content to heckle the players from the stands, because that is all you will ever be capable of. Better stick to writing pornography, you’re probably not good at that either, but at least it is less embarrassing reading.

          • I’m not a part of the ADL/SPLC/SITE run (((Weev))) movement nor have I ever claimed to be.

            I’m a pro-White nationalist.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Which IRL meet-up groups do you go to?

          • Tell your buddy Joshua Goldberg I said hi.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Exactly. You don’t go to any meet-up groups because you’re nothing. Myself on the other hand, I founded one and now we have over 20 regular members. You’re fake HR. You whine on the internet. It’s all you’re capable of. Just stick to writing porno bro. Are you going to post that link or do I have to?

          • Glad we agree! I’m not a part of your (((Joshua Goldberg/Weev))) “movement” nor have I ever claimed to be.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Dude you know you sound like one those gayface skinnyfat liberals who say, “Yeah I’m a cuck! Proud of it too!” lololol

            https://hipsterracist.wordpress.com/2013/08/20/kinky-sex-fetish-a-manhattan-murder-mystery/

          • Moishe-the-Beagle

            Time to up stumps and go back to “Aryan Skynet” before you get tainted. Eeek!

            Hygenic self segregation and echoing the lefts attacks is the way forward!

          • Jennifersbodhi

            I was writing as a swede to a fellow swede. Your warnings aside, Alt Right is based in internet culture and that can hardly be called American.

          • Halford Mackinder

            I’d be happy if Europeans began considering themselves “white”. At that point they might be considered Alt Right. But “Alt Right”=”White Identity” and “White Identity”=an American thing due to unique American circumstances. We’re happy to have European allies, and ultimately to expand, but there are still a lot of differences.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Haha. That will not happen under the umbrella term European. Slavs are not white. Irish are not white. Your american whiteness is different, let’s agree to that.

          • ThomasER916

            >Slavs are not white. Irish are not white.

            So how many Negroes and Arabs are gangfucking you?

          • Jennifersbodhi

            haha I KNEW that comment was going to push buttons! But to me and to most people around here, white means Germanic.

          • ThomasER916

            Thanks for telling us just how stupid and utterly clueless everyone “around here” is. No wonder you’re becoming a Turd World shithole.

            “haha”

          • Jennifersbodhi

            You really lost your cool, you must be Slavic or something. Sorry for Barbarossa, we needed the Lebensraum.

          • ThomasER916

            Nope. Wrong again. You’re so stupid and indoctrinated you can’t even be correct by accident. You’re always wrong. You’re autistic, but not in a good way. It’s “haha” to sow division when your country is dying. Those are your values. That’s what you believe. That’s how you think you’ll get your country back.

            Your country is dead and it’s not coming back. Enjoy.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Your replies now lack content, but let me educate you. You do understand that WW2 happened on European soil and to ask that slavs and Germanic peoples have a common racial identity is a lot to ask? Fellow Europeans is fine though.

          • ThomasER916

            You’re so stupid and indoctrinated you believe that European ≠ White. That’s the problem. That’s why mass Turd World immigration and miscegenation will continue unabated.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Yes, you keep posting insults and keep gazing in your crystal ball. You just come across as another Beta with issues.

          • ThomasER916

            Yes, keep posting that biology doesn’t exist and Europeans are not more closely related biologically to each other than they are to Asians, Arabs, and Africans. You just come across as another autistic White catlady with issues.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Being more closely related was not the issue. You keep failing in your argument, possibly because you are ashamed of something in your blood. I feel sorry for you.

          • ThomasER916

            >Being more closely related was not the issue.

            Wrong. You’re lying again.

            >You keep failing in your argument, possibly because you are ashamed of something in your blood.

            Wrong. You’re just being stupid and I’m not letting you off the hook.

            >I feel sorry for you.

            Wrong. You’re lying again.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Haha what? You do not understand Europe and you do not understand the Germanic mindset. From Iceland to Die Oder everyone knows what white means. It does not mean Polish or Russian. You are just ignorant and hiding it behind insults. Quite uninteresting.

          • ThomasER916

            I understand the autism of petty nationalism and you have it. This is why you will have a shitmix country full of Negroes and Arabs while posturing enlightenment.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            That is completely off topic. Eradicating the slavs and jews had nothing to do with nationalism. That was a tribal thing. You simply do not understand.

          • ThomasER916

            >That is completely off topic.

            The topic is your crippling inability to identify biologically and culturally related groups which causes you to attack them. Simultaneously, you’re becoming a hated,
            beleaguered minority and nobody cares.

            Why should we care about Sweden? What reason have you given for us to care? You’re clearly not related to Whites in any way.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Yes, biologically and culturally related groups. Like you know, share my customs and speak a language I can understand and share the same features. This happens to be true for most Germanic peoples. Being white is not an abstraction. To you, being white is a political construct.

          • ThomasER916

            >To you, being white is a political construct.

            Culture is a racial construct, not the other way around. Unlike you, I’m not ignorant of the real world. Unlike you, I understand that politics means people.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            unlike me, you lack roots.

          • ThomasER916

            Your petty nationalism is coming out again. You’re just taking potshots and hoping something hits the mark. This is typical of the White that craps on other White people. You want to prove that you’re the superior White so you crap on other White people, much like Leftists and Liberals. It’s a form of virtue signalling. You always end up destroying yourself in the process. You’re wrong and stupid as always.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            This has nothing to do with nationalism. You want Poles and Russians to be white because it suits your political purpose. Do you think Hebrews are white too?

          • ThomasER916

            Why are you stupid? It’s a simple question.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Yes, is Jared Kushner white? It is a simple question.

          • ThomasER916

            Jared Kushner is anti-White. It’s a simple observation.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            It is telling that you failed to answer that simple question.

          • ThomasER916

            If someone is White (Jared is mixed race as Heebs are not White) but they’re also anti-White, then they’re an enemy. You’re biologically driven to moral policing. It’s your nanny-instincts and it’s how women poison groups.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            Sure. But it is better to be a woman in a group than a beta faggot like yourself however.

          • ThomasER916

            I’m a combat vet. You’re always wrong.

            Europe doesn’t need nannies like you. Your maladaptive psychology created this mess. It’s impossible for you to fix it.

          • GenJackRipper

            Who says “turd world” that isn’t either 10 or autistic?

          • ThomasER916

            Who counter-signals more than Cuckservatives?

          • Endymion

            “around here” meaning Sweden? The average Swede would hardly have strong opinions on such esoteric fringe subjects. I’m sure most Swedes actually do consider Irish people white.

            You’re being strange.

          • Jennifersbodhi

            That was a sensitive issue. Not even one. No Irish nor Slavs either.

          • ThomasER916

            Alt Right appeals to Europeans (and to a lesser extent Asians) for the simple fact that globalism is destructive to us. Globalism (Third Worldism) suggests that successful countries must accept responsibility for failed peoples (mestizos, Muslims, Negroes) through miscegenation, immigration, and foreign aid. We must be pushed aside so failures can succeed, or so the story goes. We must empty our pockets so Jamaal and Ahmed can run amok in our neighborhood. When you look for resistant, the Alt Right is the only place to go.

            The Alt Right is White Identity. Swedes may see themselves as Swedish but to the world you’re just another evil Whitey. Those Whites are two stages behind Americans. They still haven’t figured it out yet. If you’re not White then the autism of Civic Nationalism will wave its magic wand and transform Arabs, Negroes and Jews into “Swedes”. If you’re not White then you’ll just miscegenate and all of Sweden will look like a favela because “Hey goy! Your mom was Swedish and your dad is a Negro. That’s means you’re 100% Swedish!” When Swedes are not White then they cease to exist. You’re going to learn that the hard way.

          • I disagree. The alt-right is an international movement. At least half of the memes and youtube videos associated with the alt-right are created by Northern Europeans, and the philosophical foundation (identitarianism etc) for the alt-right is derived from European thinkers.

          • Gregory Pierce

            Daniel, could you comment on your supporter’s assertions that Slavs and Irish are not White? Is that your positiion as well?

          • Игор

            He upvoted almost all her comments, where she’s telling that Slavs and Irish (Celts?) aren’t white, and that one “only Germanics” are white. So i guess that would be your answer.

          • Gregory Pierce

            That’s very disappointing. Hopefully that parochialism and small minded mentality is a minority opinion. By her and Friberg’s (?) standard’s Richard Spencer is a race-mixer because his wife is Slavic? Maybe Richard isn’t white enough either? Could there be some Irish Celtic blood in him?

          • Игор

            And after Michele there is another non-white first lady of US, huh. Sarcasm aside they’re obviously nordicists. I mean Ireland has far more redheads than Sweden , but muh we wuz Vikings, so Celts are non-white.
            “Hopefully that parochialism and small minded mentality is a minority opinion”- nah Europe is fractured a lot in general, even liberals will be opposed against each others. Best thing to do is to focus on your local problems, while using sites like this to get info.
            And about Spencer ideas, who knows maybe those things will become possible one day. But until then don’t get upset too much about some guy from other part of the world. And ,sorry for broken English.

          • Vincent Law

            Did he really upvote her comments and then unvote them?

          • Игор

            Well i saw it, you can also ask Gregory Pierce, and crediThor, they probably noticed too. Actually better ask them, because while i like to read articles on this site, i’m not really alt-righter or even white nationalist (although i have some sympathy for it , especially US movement).
            And if i say that i don’t spread gossips, it doesn’t mean anything, i mean i’m just random guy from internet.

          • Vincent Law

            So you’re not sure you saw him upvote her comments about slavs not being white?

          • Игор

            I’m sure, i wouldn’t point to Gregory Pierce that if i didn’t saw it. I’m just saying to you that you can ask others too.

          • crediThor

            So how is your stance on nordicism? This question will ultimately decide a lot, so better be open about it. Slavs are white or not?

          • GenJackRipper

            Are you a boomer?
            “Alt-right is Muricah and we don’t need any of y’all. Let me get back to my freedom fries”

      • Marquis the Renegade

        Lots of respect!

    • he pretty much single-handed reformed skinhead fanzine/music-culture to the academic suit and tie format

      I know nothing of Friberg, only first hearing about him here, but if that is the case, count me as a fan.

      In America we have been desperately attempting to create a viable pro-white movement but are constantly derailed by (((Hollywood Nazis))) – usually paid by the ADL/SPLC – who want nothing more than to ghettoize the pro-white movement into a “skinhead fanzine/music-culture” – and especially, the modern version, online internet trolls.

      But despite the best attempts of the Usual Suspects, we’re winning anyway, hence the constant screeching from the Tard Corral.

      • Halford Mackinder

        Bro all the people you claim are derailing the movement *ARE* the movement. It is you cucky milquetoast kosher faggots that aren’t doing anything. You guys put all of your energy into attacking the movement you claim to be. Can you link us to some of the pornography that you write, or do I have to link it for everyone?

        • I’m not your “bro.” I’m not a part of your ADL/SPLC/SITE run (((Joshua Goldberg/Weev))) “movement.”

          I’m a pro-White nationalist.

          • Halford Mackinder
          • Thanks for linking my blog!

          • Halford Mackinder

            Brother, you’re a pornographer. Do you know what’s going to happen to you when we get in power? You’re getting bogged with the rest of the merchants of degeneracy.

          • I don’t need to worry because you are never getting into power. The highlight of your life will be your “meet up” at Applebee’s with your other 4chan internet trolls.

            I’m working to secure the existence of white people and a future for my white children and grandchildren. In fact, my erotica stories were inspired by the man who coined the “14 words,” David Lane, who wrote similar fiction:

            https://hipsterintelligenceagency.wordpress.com/a-rebels-dangerous-kink

          • Halford Mackinder

            “my erotica stories were inspired by…”

            bog.

          • Doctor Mayhem

            We can’t deny that many of the old school WNs were pretty public about BDSM, Satanism, and several other things that we find distasteful. James Mason, author of Siege, for instance, was a Satanist.

            I think much of it stems from the total rejection of Christianity and Christian morality because of the jewish roots of Christianity, so lots of the old-school guys embraced some of the more… unorthodox moral stances in their rejection of Christ.

            See also: Lana Lokteff’s complaints about Christianity tend to revolve around Christianity’s sexual morality and restrictiveness.

          • Halford Mackinder

            Yeah the whole concept of “Satanism” is Jewish. Anyone who claims to be a “Satanist” is just saying, “I am a tool of the Jew.”

          • Doctor Mayhem

            Oh yeah. But… You know. Things happened back then.

          • Halford Mackinder

            I try to not to project moral judgements onto the past. There’s nothing more fashy than Historicism.

          • A hymn to Hermes

            A lot of so-called “Satanists” were Nietzcheans who wanted to be the next Zarathustra and reverse the prevailing moral paradigm. It seems extremely cringey now but for Gen X it fit into a certain context.

            Realistically Jews didn’t fully break the back of WASP power in the US until the early 70s, so kids reaching the age of activism in the 80s and 90s were working with a model of reality where ultra-cucked Christians were seen as a much larger problem than they really were. The reality is in retrospect that they were making big splashes then because they were drowning.

          • WTF are you even talking about? BDSM *is* Christian marriage, hell, what do you think “Christian Domestic Discipline” is? What do you think St. Paul was talking about when he told wives to submit to their husbands?

            The (((Daily Stomer))) trolls are desperate to discredit me but I can’t thank them enough for publicizing my fiction. Unlike the (((Daily Stormer))) my stories are tasteful and moral, while the (((Daily Stormer))) constantly posts miscegenation and cuckold pornography, not to mention is about the gayest website ever.

            I’m not the slightest bit anti-Christian, I’m an old-school Presbyterian.

          • Halford Mackinder

            See how little it takes to get a pervert sexually excited? Sick.

            bog.

          • Halford Mackinder

            “WTF are you even talking about? BDSM *is* Christian marriage” – Hipster Racist

          • Doctor Mayhem

            Eh… “Christian Domestic Discipline” is a bit cringy as hell. Maybe it’s because of that old Matt Forney troll that I find it so.

            Hey, not judging. I think a wife, like kids, needs a good spanking every now and then. Sometimes twice a day. Married couples should be free to do their own thing. You know.

            (Seriously, I can’t cuss in these comments? Gay.)

          • Halford Mackinder

            People like Hipster Racist have a vested interest in seeing the Alt Right fail because the Alt Right has definitively rejected them and their milquetoast methods, and if we succeed it represents a rebuke to them. That is why he says things like “I don’t need to worry because you are never getting into power” – it would be his worst nightmare: because it would validate his rejection.

          • I haven’t been a big fan of Hipster Racist, but you’re actually making me like the guy.

      • Jennifersbodhi

        It is the truth. Friberg was once a pretty scary guy who got caught with a trunk full of G3 carbines but moved on to get a masters in economy. He has set a good example. I usually don’t speak up on this site but hearing about this infighting bothers me a little because he is a well known veteran in the Nordic countries and deserve better.

        • The “infighting” is mostly internet trolls and it very rarely crosses over into real life. So I wouldn’t worry about it.

        • Thank you. I take that as a compliment. 🙂

    • invincible white owl

      Excellent! Thank you for your post & sharing this newspaper page: very impressed.

    • White Mothership

      Here’s a translation of what it says about Friberg (Who is the one to the left):

      “Daniel Friberg 21 years Gothenburg Prosecuted for inciting racial hatred in Gothenburg district court. Behind the white power internet site Alternativ Media.”

  • Gubbler Chechenova

    I don’t think Johnson is trying to be the leader-leader of Alt Right. I think he wants to be the intellectual leader or guru of the Right. He wants to play a more shadowy role, and indeed, such roles can be powerful.

    After all, the most powerful people in the US are not politicians but the shadowy figures of Deep State and Jewish Glob. Consider Hyman Roth in THE GODFATHER Part 2. He works behinds many buffers. Consider the influence of Leo Strauss who never held a political position. The thing is he molded the minds of many who did.

    Greg Johnson wants to be the Deep Thought of the Alt Right.

    Also, I don’t think it’s wrong for Johnson to be critical of other members of the movement. Without criticism, a movement will grow drab, dogmatic, or downright crazy.

    Andrew Anglin is funny and Daily Stormer is amusing, but it is the Hustler magazine of Alt Right. It is trashy, vulgar, and idiotic. Grant you, it does crack me up, along with Infostormer, but it can’t be taken seriously. It is White Right on meth.

    In some ways, Anglin seems hellbent on making the White Right into a SPLC or ADL caricature. Also, unlike the trolls at 4Chan who have a sense of irony, Andrew Anglin seems sincere in his crackhead hitler worship. Do we need crackhead neonazis as the face of white right? Also, Anglin has incessantly attacked everyone, especially Mike Enoch.

    My take on Anglin is ‘let him do his shtick’, but he can’t be taken seriously and those who do take Daily Stormer seriously need to have their heads examined. I will defend him against nasty Jews though.

    As for Heimbach and Parrot, I do appreciate their dedication and commitment. But their way is too crude and too beer-belly It is Malt-Right than Alt Right. And they also get too close with neo-Nazi crap.
    Alt Right should take the good aspects of National Socialism, but it make it clear that Nazism was, overall, a disaster, morally, politically, and culturally.

    As for Johnson, I have no idea how true the allegations are.
    But assuming they are, the lesson to be learned is that ideas and positions are not enough in any movement. Even if you agree 100% with someone’s ideas, a person without character and honor is more problem than solution.

    Someone you agree with 100% can lack honor and character, and someone you disagree with 100% can possess character and honor.

    Naturally, we want people we agree with who also have honor and character.

    But I think another virtue is the need to ‘forgive and forget’ with conditions of course. Even if Johnson did wrong, if he confesses and admits wrong, I think we should be forgiving. After all, Founding Fathers were filled with egotistical acrimony too, especially among Jefferson, Adams, and Hamilton. And the French Revolutionaries destroyed each other over ideology, personality, and pride. And Hitler turned on Rohm. And Stalin and Mao ended up killing too many comrades. So much of the bad blood was unnecessary.

    So, while I see it as necessary to air some dirty laundry about Johnson, I think we should cut him some slack and shake hands … that is if (1) he did wrong and (2) he apologizes.

    It’s like in EXCALIBUR. We have to learn to forgive and forget. That too is a kind of character and honor. Of course, there are cases when forgiveness is impossible. Carlo had to die in THE GODFATHER for fingering Sonny. That was too grave a sin.

    • BunnyMags

      “If we were just more respectable about our views, we’d be accepted.”

      Marine Le Pen salutes your strategy. After all, she did lose with an astounding 15% more of the vote when she got steamrolled than her racist and antisemetic father. Shame that France is currently rewriting the laws to make it impossible for anybody to the right of Sarkozy to even run.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        If Jean Marie Le Pen was 60 and not 90 and ran in 2017 like he did in 2002, he would have won the French election.

        • Gubbler Chechenova

          80% of older folks voted for Macron. Their minds are still molded by WWII narrative of French Resistance against Nazi Occupation.

          In their minds, the National Front is tainted with collaboration.
          The great irony is the French are now collaborating with Jewish globalists and Afro-Muslim invaders.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            And the younger French whites still went for Macron because Marine ran on a retarded Eurosceptic plank. Jean Marie Le Pen would have ignored the EU and ran on immigration.

          • Maple Curtain

            French resistance? Yer having a laugh. History much?

      • Gubbler Chechenova

        Yeah, but if she had acted like Anglin, she would have gotten 2% of the vote.

        Btw, I’m not talking about elections. I think that way is lost in many nations.

        There is only the populist-nationalist path. And we need smart leaders and smart ideology.

        Also, this now about us. We need to be good for our sake, not to win approval from normies or others.

        My point is this. Even if we could win 100% of the vote with Anglin-ism, it’s not worth it because we would be living under a nutty ideology.

      • White Mothership

        Just because one avoids national socialism doesn’t mean one has to go full civic nationalism. There is a middle ground that has a much bigger chance of appealing to the masses, for whom national socialism is the ultimate evil.

        And that “It doesn’t matter what we do, the media will call us nazis anyway” is a bad argument, because we are not trying to appeal to the media, but to the common white man. Even if the media calls us nazis, the common man will (to a certain extent) look at us for what we truly are. And many more of them will like ethno-nationalism, standing up for their own interests, and being proud of whiteness and western culture than national socialism.

      • R. Casimir

        I’m interested in that last comment Mr. Mags. Can you post a link on the plans to change French election laws?

    • Maple Curtain

      Most of those attacking Anglin are just conservative cucks who are larping at being WNs. Anglin has the most popular Alt-Right site for a reason. When I first encountered it, I considered it “Cracked for Nazis” and laughed my ass off. Did it offend my intellectual sensibilities? Yes. I’m very well-educated and a generation older, but I have come to appreciate his site and its accomplishments.

      Anglin and his writers have been more effective at counter-culture than anyone in living memory. The masses will be moved by memes, ridicule, in-grouping and out-grouping. The masses will not be reading Kevin MacDonald. Time for a dose of reality with your intellectual snobbery. Anyway, Anglin makes a lot of very serious points and brings up relevant matters for debate…unlike the fag Johnson, he doesn’t ban people for disagreeing with him either – Anglin also has that fine old trait of those with Anglo/Celt blood – he can laugh at himself.

  • Shiro Nakatomi

    I support Greg Johnson.I do not believe he wants to be a leader of everything Alt Right. I, like many enjoy both Arktos and Counter-Currents. I do not know of any subculture where there isn’t such conflicts. I was a fan of Radix as much as I was of Greg’s site. I will continue to enjoy them both. If Greg Johnson is your friend, he is a loyal one. Other than that, I as an Alt Right content creator take no sides but the 14 words.

  • Cascadia
  • FWalus

    The accusation of collaborating with Antifa to doxx people is a divisive one, but in general I don’t see either of the principles here as divisive people. As an example, Greg Johnson was fairly critical of Andrew Anglin at one time but now I see them communicating civilly without trying to write each other out of the movement. Both Greg Johnson and Richard Spencer are doing great things – if they don’t want to work together, so be it.

    • It is divisive indeed. And anyone coming up with such serious accusations should be prepared to back them up with solid evidence — or be branded as liars.

    • ThomasER916

      >FWalus is a liar, doxxer, and fraud. Once he is cut out of nationalism, then we can all be one, big, happy family.

      That’s just me being “fairly critical” of you, but in general I don’t see it as divisive.

    • Jack Burton

      Nothing wrong with constructive criticism. For example, some leftists have said that Daily Stormer is toxic and misogynistic and it’s true. Not only that, but Anglin lies with wanton abandon. That’s the problem with a dictatorship and no oversight. Power corrupts as they say.

      IMO no one should be above criticism, but the problem I have is when people consistently and willfully lie. At Daily Stormer they will continue to lie and attack you for giving them accurate information that refutes their nonsense. That’s what Negroes and Jews do.

  • Gubbler Chechenova

    Though a movement can fall apart from excessive internecine sniping and backbiting, a healthy movement needs a culture of free debate and discussion.

    The rise of liberal intellectual movement owed to greater embrace of freedom. It was radical dogma and PC that finally undermined Liberalism, indeed to the point where Liberal academics are now afraid to hear their own voices.

    Unity can lead to power, but it can also turn people into mindless obedient dogs. National Socialism stressed unity at all costs, and it turned Germans into mental slaves of Hitler, willing to follow his any order without question. The result was WWII and fall of Germany. And Stalinism was also bound to fail because it just produced hacks who were afraid to think and just clapped endlessly in praise of Stalin.

    We don’t want that kind of movement. We want a movement where each individual and member feels free to air his views, criticisms, ideas, and grievances.
    Only through such a process can a system be regulated in a healthy way.
    Even though all Eurosphere warriors and activists need to pledge to a set of core values, core beliefs, and core convictions, they must be encouraged to speak against corruption, falsehood, dogmatism, and egotism(of certain members).

    it’s like the human body. Even though every part of the human body works in coordination with other parts, the body needs a self-regulating mechanism. A body is self-critical, and indeed it has to be in order for a person to survive.

    For example, if someone wants to stay awake for too long, the body keeps ‘telling’ the person to get some sleep. If someone wants to work out too much, the body tells him to go easy and rest because an overworked body will collapse. The mind may want to do some things, but the body has limits, and it sends signals to the mind to pull back.

    Same goes for movements. Under National Socialism, Hitler and his cohorts were the Mind of Germany while the people were the Body. Hitler had grand plans, but the German body was capable of only so much. When Hitler ordered the German body to invade Russia, it was like making a cougar take on a big brown bear. A cougar is a strong animal, but there are limits to what it can do.

    If Nazi Germany had a better self-regulating mechanism, the German body would have told the German mind(controlled by Hitler) to drop the plan because it is too risky and dangerous.
    Also, there is the matter of the heart. The mind must also be informed by morality and emotions. The mind may be ambitious and seek more power, but is it worth it if it causes horrible harm to so many people?

    But the heart and body were muted in Nazi Germany. So, the German Nazi mind ordered the body to do the impossible and the horrible, and the body broke and Germany lost.

    So, we need a movement that is self-regulating. A movement that doesn’t get ahead of itself or loses its soul in search of power.

    • ))) Depeche Europa (((

      Why aren’t you in the Alt-Right Leadership??

      That was a GREAT Post…….

    • crediThor

      You know the Hitler-Mannerheim tapes? Listen to them. Hitler thought Russia was built up at the border and would attack anyway.
      The structure of authority is a hard question and I suggest we need to have some feedback processes and strict mental and psychological and physiological criteria matched to become leader.

      • Gubbler Chechenova

        It doesn’t matter even if true.

        The German war on Russia was genocidal in scope.
        It wasn’t just a war on Soviet regime. It was a race war waged to exterminate or enslave Slavs.

        Hitler wasn’t trying to defeat communism to liberate Slavs.He was trying to defeat communism to exterminate and enslave Slavs.

        But neo-nazis like you are too blind and stupid to consider that.

        • crediThor

          I’m not sure he wanted to enslave Slavs. In Mein kampf there is passages where he explains his view on Russia and how they were not ready to govern themselves. I disagree with that. BUT, on another side, Stalin was built up to invade as well. Both went for war, it seems. I’m not a Nazi, relax. I speak for a pan-white alliance.

  • ))) Depeche Europa (((

    Are we Caucasian Peoples doomed to this until the End??

    • ThomasER916

      The short answer is no. Greg will end up just like Erst Rohm. The Civic Nationalists will be pushed out. The cucks will go with the POCs.

      Spencer is right and Johnson is wrong. Race is the first identity. After that everything else follows. It’s easy to ask, “What is good for the White race?” When someone attacks you for asking that question you’ve outed an enemy. At a minimum, they’re desperate to sow division. If Germans, Swedes, and English are not White then why not miscegenate? According to the delusion that White doesn’t exist then miscegenation will magically produce more Germans, Swedes, and English.

      White Identity always comes first. Anything else will destroy the essence of the people.

      • ))) Depeche Europa (((

        “White Identity always comes first.”

        Thank you for that, my Brother…….

        Let’s stay United…….

    • craicher

      Drugged out and subversive and unhealthy. All the negative vibration and the guy killed himself. Not good for our people. Quit trying to be “cool”, a stupid negro concept.

  • Brendan Hume

    This whole saga is completely Normal, every family has it’s issues.

    • ))) Depeche Europa (((

      True….

  • ThomasER916

    I’m reading the TRS Forum posts where (the Real) GJ. From the looks of it, GJ was fed information (admittedly) and his faggotry kicked in to overdrive. People were banned from TRS in what looked like IP tracking schemes and general faggotry. Literally zero proof was given by GJ or anyone else to back up their claims. Pages of posts and not a single bit of evidence against Daniel Friberg. This relegates all accusations against Friberg to hearsay. The post was locked after 2 days of mudslinging without evidence.

  • Sir Richard of Wales

    Greg is one of the better spoken voices of the alt right. whatever the petty issues between leaders, we need to move on and focus on saving our race.

  • ))) Depeche Europa (((

    Who’s the Alpha Male Leader of the Alt-Right?

    Ha!!

    • The best I’ve seen from the Alt-Right/White Nationalism is middle management material.

      • ))) Depeche Europa (((

        I wouldn’t be here……

        …..if the Alt-Right wasn’t the place to be…….

        ……for WOKE White Men……..

  • Helter_Skelter

    Daily reminder that Greg published a book called “the Homo and the Negro”

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      The Negro and the Homo is this century’s Mein Kampf!

    • I’ve read the essay the book is based on and the theory is right on, and it’s proven daily on the “alt right” sites. The males that are constantly crying about “faggots and cucks” have internalized the idea that Blacks and Muslims (“white sharia” anyone?) are the “real men” that White women all secretly long for.

      But White men who listen to classical music, are not swaggering apes, or are intellectuals, are really “homos.”

      Hence, the typical reactionary is so terrified of being called a “fag” they will instead ape Black (and Muslim) masculinity. You see this constantly on these sites, where likely very effete internet trolls in their mom’s basement all spend a lot of time pretending to idolize rural agricultural workers and coal miners – when they aren’t masturbating to Japanese cartoon child pornography, of course.

      Say what you will, the “Homo and the Negro” thesis is relevant.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Congrats on proving what a douchebag you are by admitting you read Negro and Homo.

        • “Douchebag” – the favorite slur of Jews. In fact, a Jew even suggested it was the “racial epithet for white males we were all waiting for.”

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I guess Jews invented douchebags along with bagels and physics. Thanks Jews.

          • No, you “just happen” to ape Jewish anti-whiteness in at least half of your posts. Hardly surprising for someone calling themselves “Yehudah Finkelstein.”

            You are easily triggered because you project your own inadequacies constantly.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            So far on this site, you’ve extolled the value of Negro and Homo and cavalierly dismissed real intellectual works by people like Carl Schmitt. Sad.

          • You’re also a liar, because I never “cavalierly dismissed” Carl Schmitt.

            Then again, Jews don’t have the Western understanding of “truth” and you’ve admitted right here in this thread you don’t care about truth, but instead simply use insults because they “stick” in people’s heads.

            Very Alinsky of you.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Yes, you did dismiss works by people like Schmitt and Benedict Anderson as …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
            larping (SHOCKING!) and obscure. Not my fault you have lame reading tastes.

          • There you go again, making up lies because you don’t have the Western understanding of “truth” and prefer simply to insult and attack people’s character – you live up to your namesake daily.

        • “”Douchebag”: The White Racial Slur We’ve All Been Waiting For” by Michael Mark Cohen

          http://gawker.com/douchebag-the-white-racial-slur-we-ve-all-been-waiti-1647954231

          The douchebag is someone—overwhelmingly white, rich, heterosexual
          males—who insists upon, nay, demands his white male privilege in every
          possible set and setting. The douchebag is equally douchey (that’s the
          adjectival version of the term) in public and in private. He is a
          douchebag waiting in line for coffee as well as in the bedroom.

          The jewiness just comes out of your pores, Finkelstein, like an alcoholic has that hootch smell no matter how much he bathes.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I didn’t know Gawker was an authority on etymology.

        • So you didn’t read it, but have concrete opinions on it and even the people that have read it?

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Why would I waste time reading a book of Psychobabble that’s written by a homosexual who is unable to come to grips with the fact that his lifestyle is anathema to most White Advocates?

          • Ignorance is ignorance, no matter how you try to explain it away.

            You really do have a caustic personality. For your sake, I hope this is just confined to the Internet.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I am ignorant of psychohistory that seeks to ascribe blame to white men for the fact that fags aren’t accepted by many white men. It’s great.

          • ThomasER916

            If you don’t watch gay porn then you can’t have concrete opinions, goy. You’re just being ignorant.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            You know, you should also read some Cornel West or Henry Louis Gates. Otherwise, your opinions on them are ignorant.

          • Finkestein’s caustic personality is simply a shtick and it’s typical of “right wing Jews.” They are embarrassed of “liberal Jews” and afraid that their anti-whiteness causes a backlash. So they are fine with trolling “liberal Jews.”

            But it’s terrifying for them to see criticism of Jews as a whole; thus, they desperately attempt to keep serious counter-semitism in the (((Hollywood Nazi))) ghetto.

            Just observe for a while and you’ll find that is what Finkelstein does consistently. For all the vaunted “verbal intelligence” it’s usually little more than snark.

      • ThomasER916

        Jew Logic: If you oppose homosexuals and cuckolds, you’re a homosexual and cuckold.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          Rehashing Rick Wilson basement memes surely will make Negro and Homo not seem degenerate.

        • That is quite a non-sequitur.

          Reading – it’s not just for fags anymore!

        • Jack Burton

          Greg’s problem is that he has a cognitive bias and is vindictive. Those two things alter his otherwise high cognition. Like Jews, it doesn’t matter how smart they are if you can’t trust them because they’re always lying for their own agenda.

        • Lothar von Trotha

          If that logic holds true, I shall begin to oppose Aryan supermen with billions of dollars and gigantic harems.

      • Reinout van Hulst

        Hear, hear!

      • Jack Burton

        Sounds like a false dichotomy fallacy and straw-man.

        • Yehudah Finkelstein

          That’s what Hipster Racist specializes in. Now prepare to have your post be called a “false dichotomy and straw man.”

        • It’s neither. Listening to classical music does not make you a “fag” or a homosexual. Engaging in sodomy makes you a homosexual.

          Negroes and Muslims are not “more masculine” than White men, and White women are the most “racist” demographic on earth and for the most part recoil at the idea of sex with anyone but a White man.

          This is something that cuckolds have a hard time with, hence, their constant attempt to ape the comical faux-masculinity of Negroes and Muslims and their hysterical “no homo” counter-signaling.

          It was a good essay, and like the handful of statements Spencer has made on the topic, purposefully misrepresented by trolls and Jews.

          • Catiline_Conspirator

            What a confused farrago. Most of what you say is true (kudos) but white girls are definitely NOT racist. For example, it has recently come to light that white women are actually more pro-immigration than colored people.

          • When it comes to sex, all the data shows that White women are the most “racist” demographic. Of course if you ask them “are you for letting in refugee babies that need our help or are you a sick evil nazi that wants babies to die because they aren’t white?” – obviously they are going to go with the former.

            There are at least 200 million White people in America alone and at least one billion White people world wide.

            Clearly, there are a lot of White women breeding with White men. The people who think that White women prefer non-White men generally fall into two camps: people who watch TV and (((Hollywood))) movies and think it reflects reality, and cuckold fetishists who watch miscegenation pornography.

    • Reinout van Hulst

      Yes, and it is an excellent book. Have you read it?

  • I think Greg Johnson is probably the leading intellectual of the Alt-Right. I enjoy and learn from his interviews more than anyone else in the Alt-right. But there is no question that he has some personality issues. He has constant feuds with people and becomes insulting if you have an opinion that differs from his.

    I don’t care about his reported sexual orientation, since he promote the traditional family. In fact, I don’t care if he hangs out at the Blue Oyster bar dressed as the Indian from the village people and dances the tango all night. His work is invaluable.

    The only thing (besides the personality issues) that gives me pause with GJ is that there seems to be some dark occultic elements over at “33” oh, I mean CC publishing.

    With that said, I believe GJ should be given a Gothic castle to live and work in, a high salary, and all the black designer clothing he wants but in return must agree to remain free of all drama.

    • ))) Depeche Europa (((

      Never heard of Greg Johnson……

      He obviously isn’t the Leading Intellectual of the Alt-Right…….

      NEXT…….

      • Reinout van Hulst

        I regret to inform you, that the fact that you pretend never to have heard of him, makes no difference as to Johnson’s position.

    • ThomasER916

      Literally, no one in the Alt Right cites a single body of work by Greg Johnson as central to who we are. Everyone cites “The Culture of Critique.” Clearly, Greg Johnson is the leading intellectual of the Alt Right and not Kevin MacDonald, published academic and tenured professor.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Culture of Critique, Letters from a Budapest Jail, Heilgate, Auburn with Spencer backed up by Griffin and Heimbach, the Troll Storm against Tanya Gersh. Where is Greg Johnson’s moment or work to hang his hat on?

        • Jack Burton

          Greg prefers to lurk. You can’t even find a picture of him unless you know someone on the inside.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Then Grindr Greg easily replaced. Just find an Alt Right English major undergrad who isn’t a gay drama queen to write essays.

      • You make a good point. I’ll change it above to “one of the leading intellectuals”….

      • Jack Burton

        If you just listened to some choice interviews he’s done and read some of his articles you might think he’s an okay guy and smart. It’s when you know more about him that you find out he has a lot of negative qualities as well.

        • ThomasER916

          I’ve listened to most of Greg’s interviews and podcasts. I read articles at Counter Currents from time to time. I’m familiar with his “Dance Mom” outbursts.

      • Yankee Lampshade

        For those of us who prefer to listen to podcasts Greg is one of the best speakers we have. Sven not so much.

        • Ike35

          Hey now, take it easy on ole’ Svenson.

        • itzmatthias

          Try to take the polished and erudite Johnson you hear on podcasts with a grain of salt.

    • Marquis the Renegade

      No. Homosexuality attracts more homosexuality, making exceptions for degenerates that do not stop engaging in it is the worst thing for the movement. You’ll just get repeats of the same non-sense over and over again. Same drama, same lies and scapegoating or misdirection.

  • ))) Depeche Europa (((

    Who has expanded the Alt-Right into the American Masses more than anyone?

    Richard Spencer……

    Alpha Male or not………

    FACT……

  • ))) Depeche Europa (((

    And before I ever heard of Richard Spencer……

    I followed Kevin MacDonald……

    Who is Greg Johnson??

    • Jack Burton

      He’s the homosexual revisionist who wrote screeds about how homosexuality was normal in ancient Europe, and ancient German warriors were a bunch of circle-jerking fags until Christianity came along.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        “It’s the JOOOOZZZZZ fault that Whites hate gays now!” -Grindr Greg

        • “It’s the JOOOOZZZZZ”

          Only Jews do this, screech “JOOOOOOOOOZ” when Jews are criticized. Literally no one else does.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Only Grindr Greg and his crew think the Jews made White people “homophobic.”

            Jews do suck by and large, but blaming them for the fact that your weird lifestyle isn’t accepted is dumb.

          • The issue of homosexuality is irrelevant to the fact that you just cannot help “outing” yourself. You talk like a Jew, your agenda is Jewish, and you have the Jewish aversion to truth. Whether or not your rabbi considers you a “real Jew” is also irrelevant.

            Greg Johnson’s personality defects are immaterial to the fact you are more kosher than a midtown deli.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            Someone is triggered AF he got called out for admitting he reads whack sh!t like Negro and Homo.

          • What is “triggering” here is your increasing inability to pass for anything other than a stereotypical “right wing Jew.”

            Blood always outs. You can take the Ashkenazi out of the shtetl but you can’t take the shtetl out of the Ashkenazi.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I admit it. I’m a good Jew. I even bit off the schmuck at brises and saw Topol in Fiddler on the Roof on Broadway.

          • Now you are using the “agree and amplify” technique. It’s pretty transparent, of course, you are in fact of Ashkenazi ethnicity, maybe a mischling, but likely full blooded.

            You are attracted to “anti-semitic” movements for the same reasons that wiggers pretend to be “gangsta rappers” online. But you can’t help getting defensive about counter-semitism, so you over-compensate with attempts at humor.

            You aren’t particularly original and the harder you try to hide it the more you will accidentally “slip” and let it all hang out. Hence, “JOOOOOOOOOZ!”

            It won’t be much longer until you start telling us how “based” the IDF is.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            It’s fun watching you get irate and go on five paragraph tirades.

  • ))) Depeche Europa (((

    Who is Greg Johnson again??

    • ThomasER916

      15:08 is my favorite part of the speech.

      Hail Gatsby!

      • ))) Depeche Europa (((

        Allow your Mental/Emotional/Spiritual Resistance to the LIES……

        ….eventually…….

        ……to match…….

        …….your Physical Resistance………

        Once that Synergism happens…….

        And once that Synergism multiplies Exponentially………

        Your Descendants will talk glowingly about you……

  • Cuddle with fags – get the GRIDS. Let that be a lesson to all the “he has done so much for the movement” cucks.
    P.S.: Purity-spiralling 4 life.

    • Reinout van Hulst

      No, that argument is still valid, how ever you name it.

    • Jarod

      Bro that White America track is dope AF.

      • Thanks man.

      • The Dank One

        I’ll second that.

        • I’ve heard Grandpa Lampshade mentioned before and actually searched on the moniker when I saw it in Fl_Cracker/PuddingOnMyTopHat/NoJewTricks ‘s profile. I think he has a radio show or something or has been guested on a few other people’s shows or something. But this guy is not him. This guy I first saw last year on Disqus and when first encountered I thought he was a Jew. With time and experience I think my first impression of him was right. He penned an article called “Is Anglin a Jew?” today, he dropped my name in the article along with a quote that he admitted had nothing to do with that topic, he just wanted to invoke my name in that article. He is a sh*t-stirrer. He hung out at BRI for three months fluffing those Juden, playing the role of the pro-White ,but really just trolling them and making us look bad while doing it.

          After all his b*tching at BRI about censorship, he deleted every comment I made the last couple days on his “Soap!” channel. You can read the subject heading’s he’s chosen for that channel and see he continues to represent Whites badly. He deleted the comment I made a day or two ago that had 17 thumbs ups and was a summary of my take on why Bond is a Jew.

          This guy spent time at BRI every day bantering with them, convincing no normie Whites of anything, and then left loudly conspicuously calling them all Jews, only to dust off an old channel he created and use it immediately to call Anglin a Jew, gratuitously drop my name in that same article for no reason other than to stick my name in there, and then deleted my comments critical of him as well as recent comments I made previously that exposed BRI as a Jew shop.

  • Brendan Hume

    I believe that Vox Day has earned a seat at the table as well.

    • Halford Mackinder

      Even if we pulled a chair out for him, he wouldn’t accept. He has a deep-seated and self-inflicted identity crisis where has has painted himself into a corner with no intellectually consistent path toward WN. Basically, for Vox to become a White Nationalist, he would have to admit that he had been wrong about some very important things, and he’s not going to do that. Generally a good guy though. A good ally all things being equal. I read him everyday.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Vox is a white dude who’s like 1/8 American Indian. He claims being feather Indian to deflect racism charges and probably to collect free health care If he’s enrolled in a federal tribe.

        • Jack Burton

          1/8th is borderline, but his woman is aesthetically elite so his children will be white.

      • Jack Burton

        Well, his taste in women is very white nationalist.

        That’s the thing: white nationalism is ultimately about reproduction. So it’s not just a matter of your own ancestry, but also that of your mate. I always like to see who someone takes as a partner as that tells me a lot about them and also what the future will be.

  • A fag acting like a fag? Shocking!

  • Jack Burton

    I can’t address the allegations against Mr. Friberg, but I can confirm that Greg Johnson has a history of lying and being a totalitarian for his own petty agenda. I’m well aware of his behavior at Occidental Dissent. Greg is extremely passive-aggressive and sly. He often won’t attack directly, but like a Jew or woman will work behind the scenes poisoning the well and demanding that others either attack you or ignore you.

    As despicable as some of Greg’s behavior may be, I still can’t deny that some of his contributions are valuable and he pushes the Overton window in our direction.

    It’s up to those involved with him to determine if he’s crossed lines and his negatives outweigh his positives.

    • I completely agree with everything above. And I believe everyone who had any dealings with Greg will as well.

  • Scotcho Rouleau

    from what I’ve heard, and I don’t know if its true, Greg is gay. So this could be just catty gay behavior. Anyway, ’tis a shame. Greg is brilliant. Be a shame if his gayness clouds his judgment.

    • Maple Curtain

      If his judgement weren’t clouded, he wouldn’t be gay. FIFY.

  • JosephtheGreat

    The best way to avoid drama is to not participate in it. If only one side is doing the attacking and making the accusations without evidence then the side who refuses to engage will ultimately come out looking like the better person. But when both people attack, people on the outside are ultimately unsure as to who to believe and will question the motives of both parties.

    • Frank Saxon

      I am siding with Spencer and Daniel on this. They did not make up any fake accusations. Just pointed out that Greg has attacked many other people. You can read Greg’s post on TRS. He made crazy accusations with zero proof.

      • ThomasER916

        I wasted 20 min on TRS reading every… single… post. Greg admits he didn’t experience it directly. He claims a trusted source told him. When constantly asked for proof his only response was to remove DF from Nationalism.

        Conclusion: gay drama

    • I agree. And believe me, we have not even started to attack yet. And I hope we won’t have to.

    • Ghetto Tarzan

      Reality never turns out this way.

      • JosephtheGreat

        It’s rarely ever practiced. But if someone is attacking you for no reason, if you are truly innocent, then it is very likely that the person doing the attacking does it to other people as well. Toxic people don’t just attack one person, they do it to multiple people because it’s how they are. Look at renegade as an example. There is literally no reason to engage in anything they say because they’ve already proven themselves insane. If Greg Johnson is truly a toxic person he’ll make it known by attacking more and more people in the same way. Friberg doesn’t have to say a word.

    • That is what we have been doing so far. Obviously, it has not worked that well. Therefore this call out for Greg to present evidence to his outlandish accusations.

  • Ælle Sussex

    The only thing that requires a response is this hatchet job of an article on a man who is ad has always been central to the movement. Everyone involved in this should feel deeply ashamed of themselves.

    • Requesting proof for serious allegations is a “hatchet job”? If anyone should feel ashamed, it is you, white-knighting for a homosexual drama queen stirring up conflicts in the international alt-right movement without substantiating his accusations.

      • Was “a homosexual” cause for concern to you before or only after Johnson made his accusations.

        • Before. Why wouldn’t it?

        • Evolver1

          The problem with homosexuality and the normalizing of it is that it holds down the White birthrate. I’m all for non-Whites being homosexuals and for non-Whites being celibate, and having birth control and free abortions on every street corner, but I am opposed to anything–such as the above–that will hold down the number of White births.

          In a few words, we need to live a White specific morality and let non-Whites live their universal morality.

    • Jack Burton

      Mr. Daniel Friberg did nothing wrong. Self-defense is a fundamental right. Holding others accountable for their misbehavior is prosocial.

  • Yves Vannes

    That this needed to be done publicly means private overtures didn’t go over all that well. That is unfortunate.

    Let’s keep this tempest in the teapot.

    The critical thing at this point is to build a public movement which requires as many of us stepping out of the shadows as possible. The more who do this the easier it will become.

    For many of us that will not be possible, at least not yet. We do what we can but as off camera supporters of the movement.

    Those who put themselves into a position where it’s “ok to be punched” have earned the right to set the agenda.

    I understand why GJ wants to stay sub-rosa. I also live in SF. Going public in SF isn’t simply a risk of being punched, it’s one of being killed(I do not exaggerate). And of having our families hounded and attacked.

    In one year my youngest will have graduated high school and be off to university. I’m in a position to retire so I’ll be free to move to California’s version of Whitetopia: the Sierra Foothills or any place north of Marin.

    Then becoming public about race nationalism will be feasible. I’m sure there are a lot of people in similar circumstances. Our responsibility to others who are depended upon us is what keeps us in the shadows. At least until we become free of those responsibilities.

    If you find yourself in this position and not at the very least giving material support to the various Alt Right organizations…then you need to start.

    We need to build a movement strong enough to weather a Trump defeat.

    In-fighting and being a tight-wad only makes it easier for the globalists to crush us when they once again weild uncontested political power.

    Do what you can but do something.

    • invincible white owl

      EXCELLENT post. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you’ve said (including the SF stuff; I don’t live there but I’ve been there & yes, going public in such a place would NOT be wise.)

    • anan

      Can you suggest how I can look up Black on Asian versus Asian on Black crime?

      • Yves Vannes

        Look up The Color of Crime. You’ll find it on Amren. They use DOJ stats and break it all down.

        You can try the DOJ’s site but it is difficult to navigate.

        If you try the DOJ, do it on a computer and not on a phone.

      • anan

        https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/the-color-of-crime/

        I couldn’t find the statistics here. It is very hard to find inter racial crime in general. “The Color of Crime” provides ratios of black on hispanic versus hispanic on black crime; and black on white crime versus white on black crime; but the most recent report does not contain data on black on Asian versus Asian on black crime.

        Would be deeply appreciative if you have any ideas how to obtain this information.

  • I can vouch for everything in this article.

    Daniel Friberg is one of the most honorable and talented men I’ve ever known. I’ve worked with him for nearly two years, when he solicited me to write for his site Right On (one of the forerunners of AltRight.com; my articles from that site can be found here). He’s one of the best publishers I’ve ever worked for: he always paid on time (and he paid very well by the standards of this part of the Internet), enthusiastically supported my coverage of the presidential election, was always on the level in regards to what he expected from me, and never played games like other editors have done.

    When Arktos was going through financial difficulties, Daniel paid me the money he owed me out of his own pocket.

    When I mentioned to him that I was moving to Europe, he set me up with a place to stay until I found my own apartment, despite the fact that we’d never met in person before. He’s also introduced me to numerous nationalist figures here and given me countless opportunities.

    Daniel chose me as a speaker at his Identitarian Ideas IX conference and stood by me despite the TRS autist whiner brigade protesting and begging him to blacklist me.

    I’m proud to call Daniel a friend and he’s one of the few figures in this movement I trust 100 percent, which is high praise given how dysfunctional the alt-right has become.

    Grindr Greg Johnson is and always has been a worthless degenerate. Beyond his disgusting sodomitic lifestyle (he once tried to grab another man’s penis in the bathroom at an identitarian conference), he’s a habitual liar and a libeler. Last year, he deliberately misquoted portions of Roosh V’s book Bang Iceland in order to paint Roosh as a rapist and “rape advocate.” Johnson’s distortions were so big that Roosh could potentially sue him for defamation. When Counter-Currents’ readers called Johnson out for his mendacity, he deleted their comments and banned them from the site.

    (Hilariously, Johnson had the nerve to beg me a few months later to contribute to a book he was publishing on the alt-right, like I’d ever work with a guy who smeared my friend like that.)

    Not long after, Grindr Greg smeared my friends Matt Parrott and Matthew Heimbach, even though Parrott was a loyal contributor to Counter-Currents.

    Grindr Greg nearly destroyed the Occidental Quarterly when he was the editor. When he was fired back in 2010 for his incompetence, he tried to extort them for more money by squatting on the donor lists, website, office keys, and more. The only reason he started Counter-Currents was because he screwed the pooch at TOQ.

    Finally, Johnson is trying to normalize homosexuality and pedophilia among the right. His “Homosexuality and White Nationalism” essay, where he argued that “intolerance of homosexuality is Jewish” and that pre-Christian European societies celebrated sodomy, isn’t just wrong, it’s dangerous and subversive. (He reiterated his views in last year’s “Gay Panic on the Alt Right” essay.) Both Grindr Greg and his butt buddy James O’Meara are trying to confuse young white men into allowing themselves to be sodomized, and if the nonsense about “traps” and whatnot from the young guys is any indication, he’s succeeding.

    I’m not even getting into all the alleged sockpuppeting and trolling he does on TRS’ forum and other alt-right sites.

    Greg Johnson has no merit as a human being, a writer, or a publisher. He is the cancer that is killing the alt-right, and it’s time for chemotherapy. Everything Johnson is saying about Daniel is a lie. If you have a functioning moral compass, you must disassociate yourself with him.

    • Brendan Hume

      Amazing, seven hundred million white people on this planet and yet so few are willing to financially contribute to people who advocate for them.

    • Ghetto Tarzan

      They came after you because you gloated like a bitch about Mike Enoch getting doxed. Which is why you don’t write for this site. And you called Mike fat which is offensive considering how obese you are.

      • Jack Burton

        Right, I believe Mike has also lost weight and Forney has not. It’s not how you start. It’s how you finish.

      • TK

        Fatt Morney is always calling people fat. His lack of self-awareness is astounding.

        And for such a staunchly self-righteous fag-basher, he sure runs like a bitch when confronted by them:

        (I hate Greg Johnson, too, but Forney is in no position to talk.)

      • If you see fraud and don’t shout “Fraud!,” YOU are a fraud.

        Mike Enoch claims to be a white advocate when he’s married to a left-wing, fag hag Jewess. Therefore, he and his associates are frauds.

        I’m not a fraud because I call out fraud when I see it.

        Not sure why you people find these concepts so hard to grasp.

        • Kevin Kevinson III

          Speaking of frauds, what happened to that hideous fat guy who pretended he’s a pickup artist?

        • Endymion

          Look, judging by the video above you’re clearly gay. Why are you running away like that?

    • Halford Mackinder

      I used to be a fan, but your behavior toward TRS was and is reprehensible. You and whatever movement you belong to burned a lot of bridges with the Alt Right

      • Jack Burton

        I believe what he’s saying about Friberg. Friberg seems like a good guy, but then he makes an abrupt turn and defends Roosh.

        Roosh isn’t even white. Roosh has advocated that raping white women should be legal on your property as a way to teach them a lesson. Roosh is a POS. So Forney undermines his own legitimacy and argument when he associates with and defends Roosh and then tries to use a moral compass argument.

        • I am not saying you are wrong — but when did I ever defend or even comment on Roosh? That is something I simply cannot remember.

          • He’s saying that I “undermine[d]” my argument defending you because I refuse to perpetuate a smear that Grindr Greg invented about Roosh (that he believes “raping white women should be legal”).

          • Ah, I read the comment too quickly there, and missed the context. My bad.

      • I’m “reprehensible” because I treated TRS the way they treated me and everyone else? Didn’t know y’all were a bunch of special little snowflakes.

        I’m really not losing sleep over burning bridges with frauds and liars.

    • Jack Burton

      I was in agreement until you mentioned Roosh. LOL, that was a hell of segue. You should have just stopped after praising Mr. Friberg.

      I don’t know Mr. Friberg personally, but he does seem like a stand-up guy.

    • Endymion

      This is good, you’re a stand up guy.. But that video…

  • Maple Curtain

    Stopped reading Counter-Currents when this Johnson fellow started arguing with his own commenters and trying to put them down for the sin of disagreeing with him – narcissism on a VoxDayian scale. Not looking to accomplish anything but fame, and adulation from sycophants. Needs to be ignored for sure.

    • Jack Burton

      Johnson is known for being totalitarian. People like him should not have power over others. He is actually like Jews in many respects. He wants total control over the narrative. On his personal website he will delete my posts based on nothing more than his personal whim. Okay, that’s fine as it’s his website. However, that is not enough for the spiteful homosexual. He wants to extend his tentacles into every other website and tell them to ban you as well. I find that kind of personality insidious and disgusting.

  • Robert Campbell

    There are 635 comments on this. If only we could get that many comments within a day on an article of real substance.

    The bottom line is that Daniel Friberg and Richard Spencer aren’t going anywhere. Both have done good work. Greg Johnson isn’t going anywhere. He has done good work.

    I have respect for all the entities involved in this dispute, but it is exceedingly unbecoming of such cultured gentlemen and fellow travelers of the right to publicly engage in infighting of this nature. We are all under siege by real enemies, who pose an existential threat to our existence, and I would vastly prefer that we spent our time focusing on them.

    Interpersonal quarrels abound in any social movement. The left does not allow themselves to be paralyzed by them in the way that we do.

    • Abcdedcba

      Johnson, by making public accusations, left Friberg no choice but to respond publicly. Your comment is ridiculous.

    • Rascal

      Like it or not, this is real substance. Many are increasing their commitment to general politics, to include Alt Right activism.

      This is why if you make a public accusation like Greg did, it is best that you have proof of what you are saying. If not, than you are scaring people off from being more active.

    • Jack Burton

      Mr. Daniel Friberg did nothing wrong.

  • RileyDeWiley

    This kind of spat should not be public. I have a great deal of respect for Greg Johnson (he was run out of SF by antifa violence, BTW). I have not met any of the other contestants. Rent a room, guys, and give each other some attitude. We don’t need to know about it.

    • itzmatthias

      It was already made public when Johnson took Skazda drama to the public TRS forums.

  • Great tone and well-written. Good leaders always rise above drama, while enforcing standards. Nice work.

  • Liddell

    For the greater good of the Alt-Right, Richard Spencer has got to take a hit for the team and agree to hold hands with Greg Johnson for the entire Ring Cycle. Only that will bring true peace to the Alt-Right.

    • Ike35

      Damn Colin! That’s alot of hand holdin.

    • Ed Edgerton

      Good luck finding one where the cast doesn’t include Negroes.

      • Halford Mackinder

        #angryreactsonly

    • Halford Mackinder

      As long as President Anglin officiates…..

  • Kk

    I’ve long noticed Greg using every opportunity to passive-aggressively attack Richard, and have mentioned it in the past.

    Personally, I’ve also had some unpleasant dealings with Greg (strictly online, as I’ve never met him), who I’ve learned is a very petty, grudge-holding person (and btw, I love Counter-Currents, and think he’s a great writer).

  • Kk

    I’ve long noticed Greg using every opportunity to passive-aggressively attack Richard, and have mentioned it in the past. Wasn’t aware of the situation with Daniel, but what is described here is very much in line with my impression of Greg from my limited dealings with him (strictly online).

    Even though he’s a great writer, and Counter-Currents has always been a favorite website of mine, I’ve gradually learned Greg to be a very petty and grudge-holding person.

    Ps. Injecting the gay issue into the discussion is completely unnecessary and cheapens the other arguments.

    • Maple Curtain

      “the gay argument” is central to the issue. Gays are emotionally unstable drama queens who are slaves to their base appetites. Johnson’s behaviour is typical fag drama queen nonsense. But, hey, if you’re organizing the first ‘Alt-Right’ float for the Pride parade, have at ‘er. Whatever floats your boat.

      • Kk

        I’ve personally known gays that are nothing like you describe, of whom you’d never even could tell that they’re gay based on their physiognomy, manners, opinions & behaviour.

        So while there certainly is a greater probability of female-like behaviour – cattiness, jealousy, emotionality – it’s definitely not a sure thing, and thus should be judged on a case-by-case basis.

        • Maple Curtain

          NAFALT?

          NAWALT?

          NAJALT?

          NAXALT?

          ROFLMFAO.

  • Aryans Do It Better

    Damn, I guess this means The Editors are banned from the comments section at Counter Currents.

  • Ike35

    https://youtu.be/h97kbv4mbsc
    This is basically how Richard and Daniel felt about the situation and I can understand why.

  • Jennifersbodhi…Slavs are not white. Irish are not white.

    haha I KNEW that comment was going to push buttons! But to me and to most people around here, white means Germanic.

    Good example of how White societies are now so susceptible to infighting, even as their nations and people are being robbed and raped into oblivion.

    But what kind of person would commend and Like comments like this that further sow animosity and division in a movement that can ill afford more division and enemies? Well, none other than Daniel Friberg.

    Take a singularity of Greg Johnson and turn it into a fratricidal pissing contest of Whiteness. Great leadership!

    All Hail Dysfunction!

    • I liked several comments in a row – including this one without reading it properly. I obviously believe that Irish and Slavs are white.

    • CharismatiCurmudgeon

      I’m widely traveled through Western Europe and Swedes are particularly defensive about their contributions to Western Civilization as compared to other nations. The woman you quote attacks Slavs as “not being White”. People the world over know of Dostoevsky, Tolstoy and Pushkin but can you name one Swedish author of that stature? Strindberg (lol)?She also attacks Poles but does Sweden have any composer on par with Chopin? Oh wait, you guys have Abba.

      I applaud Friberg’s efforts but let’s be realistic here: Sweden is finished as both a cohesive culture and ethnic identity. Within two generations it will be part of the Islamic Caliphate and people like Jennifersbodhi will be begging for the U.S. to come save it. No thanks. Let it burn.

      • I wouldn’t let the ramblings of one voice(or even several voices) condemn an entire nation of our extended racial family. If they need help and want help, then they’ll get help. At least that’s my position.

        • CharismatiCurmudgeon

          I’m not condemning anyone. I just often wonder if it’s worth defending that which will not defend itself (France, Germany, Sweden, et al.) This is a struggle for survival. We can’t waste time on cultures in the last throes of suicide.

          • Again, those that need help and want help will get help if it’s up to me. I’m not really bothering myself with the Whites who are blindly and willingly relegating themselves and the future of their families and children to servitude and subjugation. My main concern is for the White people who are willing to defend themselves or at least have the desire to defend themselves, even if they aren’t capable of putting up strong resistance at this point in time.

            I’m not expecting you or anyone else to devote yourself to people who you believe don’t deserve or want help. I doubt there are many people that despise apathy more than me. I completely understand the disgust when it comes to people who don’t care and won’t lift a finger to save themselves. But it’s in my nature to attack those that attack me and my people, and defend my (racial)people whenever they ask for help. I never see that as “wasted time.”

          • Relax already, dudes. Richard Spencer’s wife is slavic and some of my best friends and co-workers at AltRight Corporation are slavic. We obviously have nothing against slavs.

            Stop being overly dramatic just because one (1) person in the thread claimed that Slavs and Irish people are not white and because I upvoted a couple of comments by mistake. Chill.

          • Jack Burton

            Mr. Friberg, you probably already know this, but as a leader you will have your hands full catering to the emotional frustrations of Mediterraneans and Slavs.

          • katebushfan66

            Lana is slavic too ,,

    • Kk

      Whoever says Slavs & Irish aren’t White is a shill. Plain and simple.

      • CharismatiCurmudgeon

        I know. What the hell did Ireland ever contribute to Western Civ? Oh, wait… James Joyce, Oscar Wilde, Yeats, Becket, Jonathan Swift…

        • Kk

          It doesn’t even matter what they contributed, that ain’t what makes you White.

          • CharismatiCurmudgeon

            I’ll grant you that. I was just making a point. Jennifersbodhi comes to an Identitarian website to attack other cultures as being “non-white” or “less white” when said cultures have made vastly superior contributions than her own.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        How can anyone consider the Irish white after listening to Sinead McCarthy’s insane rant that was posted here? 😉

        • Jack Burton

          Sinead admitted to be actually being diagnosed as mentally ill when she was younger.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I’d actually never heard of her until she appeared in this thread.

        • Ike35

          Hey Hey now, easy! Even Whitey Bulger isn’t as nutty as Renegade Sinead.

    • Jack Burton

      People who say Irish are not white should elaborate on that considering that Irish are one of the purest indigenous European groups.

      Citing what some Jew wrote about how Irish were mistreated in the American northeast is not evidence.

    • Evolver1

      Are you just here to try to divide Whites? If you don’t have something nice to say about Whites who are doing some of the heavy lifting, just don’t say anything.

  • Saki Preston

    So, his obvious homosexuality causes no problem for you???

    • Who is this question addressed to?

    • Jack Burton

      Homosexuality is a problem. However, in the old days homosexuals were “kept in the closet.” This is how it should be, as homosexuality to a small degree will happen every generation. It’s when homosexuality is politicized, forced into the mainstream, given equality with heterosexuality and family, and celebrated that is the problem.

  • FredAGunter

    Alright children -quit fighting or I’ll put all three of you out of the car and you can start walking home.

    • katebushfan66

      Greg started it..

  • Hey, Friberg! Go ahead and ban me!

    Don’t threaten me and accuse me of spreading disinformation when it’s clear as day that it was YOU who liked comment(s) where the premise was attacking other White people—Slavs and Irish. I didn’t just make it up or spread any “false rumors.” You would have to be a complete retard to not have known what you were liking in a short, four-sentence comment where the main point was that “Slavs are not white. Irish are not white.” You’re a damn editor and supposed “leader,” and you don’t bother to read the stuff you like and upvote? BS!

    Funny thing is, I didn’t see you remove your upvote, remove the divisive and antagonistic comment toward entire groups of Whites, or even go on to scold and reprimand the person who did attack other Whites. Why is that?

    At first I was skeptical of Greg’s accusations and thought it was just rumor that got out of hand. Now I kind of see a trend.

    • Sure thing.

      • If you really think this is solely about your (3) upvotes instead of the subject surrounding those upvotes, then there’s not much I can say. But it’s obviously not super-important to you when you’re liking and upvoting people who are trying to insult and cull large swaths of people from the pro-White sphere, so I guess I understand the apprehension and nonchalant manner to correct YOUR mistakes and attack those who are doing what the anti-Whites pay good money to do.

        I do like the Hebrew touch at the end. Maybe one day we can sit around and spin a dreidel together? Maybe not in this lifetime, but in some parallel universe I’m sure it will happen or maybe already has happened.

        Good luck in your endeavors, dude. No need to ban me. This “not White guy?” can show himself the door.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/34a6037c442c954c7743179a3cd996b53790ccf7506298c346fcf0a5107c0d8f.jpg

        • Eh, very well then, Mr easily-offended-super-sensitive-anonymous-person.

          *DRAMATIC EXIT WITH DOOR SLAM*

  • josh

    Both Greg Johnson and altright.com are great. I feel disappointed when our greatest bicker and bitch with one another. Maybe grow up?

    • itzmatthias

      Should tell that to Johnson.

    • Jack Burton

      Self-defense is everyone’s right.

  • August Landmesser
    • Jotunn Dovregubben

      Why would we support a Bernie Sanders supporter who voted for Jill Stein and wanted to kill Trump supporters and monotheists?

  • Newfoundlander

    Oh, great, infighting.

  • Trainspotter

    At 10+ years in the movement, I’ve seen these “infighting eruptions” pop off again and again. My general policy has been to encourage a peaceful settlement, emphasizing how all parties are valuable assets to the Cause, and that infighting serves no useful purpose. It’s all quite true, of course, and I see that a lot of commenters in this thread have done just that. I genuinely appreciate these people. Their hearts are in the right place, and I commend them.

    But here’s the thing: it doesn’t matter. Nobody is going anywhere and nobody will drastically alter their behavior. So to the newer folks in this thing of ours, just view it as an infection that must run its course, after which nothing will be gained, but very little will be lost. It will happen every now and again, nothing to get terribly upset about. Then things go back to normal, hum along for a bit, followed by another eruption. I imagine it’s sort of like having herpes. Sucks, but people seem to live with it.

    “He said, she said” is for thots and middle school groids. Nobody is going to change their mind without crystal clear, unimpeachable evidence. As for me, I’m a longtime supporter of Greg Johnson and Counter-Currents. That’s not going to change. I also like a lot of what Spencer is doing. He’s got guts, and he’s an idealist – a rare combination. If he can dial down the douchebag factor a bit (hint: limit yourself to one selfie a week – at most – on your twitter account), there’s real potential there.

    Our movement is strong enough that even our catfights are between high quality men. That should tell you something – we’ve got a lot of good things to look forward to.

    • Ike35

      Don’t read his twitter, problem solved. See how easy that was.

      • Trainspotter

        Touchy, aren’t we? Overall, his twitter account is good.

        • Ike35

          Not touchy, just trying to help.

  • Ed Edgerton

    Here is my take on Greg Johnson and Counter-Currents. I found his website interesting in the first few years after I woke up about the JQ, which was at about the same time he started his website. Greg Johnson usually comes across as a pro-white voice of reason (although featuring approving pictures of Hitler on his website does not seem like a very “reasonable” thing to do). There were a few downsides from the beginning. First, the website was NSFW because of the aforementioned pictures. Second, it took too long for each page to load. Also, having to wait for comments to show up was a downside, and sometimes comments would never appear. Later, I started to wake up about hoaxes and false flags and found that raising these issues made comments even less likely to ever show up. Finally, the presence of a number of openly gay regular contributors is not exactly a plus, as far as I am concerned, although it does not keep me from ever visiting the site.

    • MagnaEuropa

      There is literally nothing unreasonable about Hitler.

      • Jarod

        hmmm…

      • Ed Edgerton

        I don’t know for sure, but his image unsettles normies.

        Hitler and his associates acted too rashly. They attacked countries left and right. Perhaps they were tricked or forced into this. Defeating the world parasite requires winning hearts and minds. Launching a world war served the enemy’s purpose, ultimately.

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  • Triuwida

    I made a few posts over on Counter Currents, and the guy ip banned me lol.

    He’s dodgy as af. I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone who comments over there is a sock puppet.

  • Aww, c’mon, my comment from yesterday went into moderation and all I did was insert an e into my misspelling of aides so that it was spelled correctly and didn’t look like A.I.D.S.

  • Hayseedstix

    We have men who have seen real combat and have split blood on the field of battle. This is the conduct of women and intellectuals. Choose wisely.

  • Hayseedstix

    We have men who have seen combat and have split blood on the field of battle. This is the conduct of women and intellectuals. Choose wisely.

  • Oskorei

    I have known Daniel Friberg as a friend and a political co-worker for more than a decade (before that he had already spent another decade fighting for our cause). He is one of the leading figures in Scandinavian nationalism, for good reasons. Daniel is intelligent, loyal, honest and brave. He has made several sacrifices and taken risks for the cause, he is a popular public figure in wide circles though he is still a radical. Daniel could easily make a lot more money if he chose other work, but he is a builder and a visionary and without him we would be years behind where we are today in Sweden.
    This means that when unfounded allegations about collaborating with the antifa are spread they are either stupid or malevolent. In either case they are destructive, and a behavior that needs to be called out so that it doesn’t spread.

  • I fail to see your reasoning there. I can’t recall neither me nor Richard doing any of the things you mention above. Please elaborate.

  • I have nothing against Greg Johnson and find most of his work excellent. (I am particularly impressed by his latest series of articles on Heidegger and the Jewish Question). My issue with “The Slow Cleanse” is that it is presupposes a lot of cooperation on the parts of people and countries who are not likely to go along with the plan.

    Trump’s get-tough approach has definitely slowed the flow of illegal immigrants and led to many self-deportations. But if we’re talking about turning America into a White ethnostate we’re going to have to figure out what to do with 100 million non-Whites — how are we going to get them out, where are they going to go, and who’s paying for it? Johnson glossed over those difficult questions.

  • Hilbert

    AltRight corporation haven’t made any Third Reich references as far as I have seen. Greg, however, has explicitly glorified Hitler in Counter-Currents articles, celebrating Hitler on his birthday for example.

  • Dear Mods, I am not trying to make work for you I promise. Forgive me any small annoyance please. I made a lengthy comment yesterday that is in some ways tangentially, well, parallel or something to this article’s topic, kinda, and the comment went through okay and was posted first time around. Then late last night I looked at what I’d written and thought “Dammit, I spelled aides aids in visual aides. I better change it so I don’t look dumb.” So I did, then the comment went into moderation.

    I made a short comment then in this thread asking for you to let my comment go through, which you did (thank you). Sadly though soon after that I realized that I had spelled aids correctly in the context of “visual aids” because apparently aides is only used when the speaker is describing a human.

    So of course I came right back here and changed the spelling of it back to the original spelling so that it didn’t look like my spelling had A.I.D.S. However, sadly that sent my comment back into moderation yet again. Thus this rambling very detailed bore-fest comment of mine. Ummm, do you mind? I promise I won’t attempt to edit again. I’m happy with it. It’s happy being it. But sadly it is due wholly to my own inattentiveness, back in moderation yet again. Would you be so kind?

  • Yehudah Finkelstein

    Grounded in reality = Lavender False Rumor Monger.

  • katebushfan66

    Just a girl comment here but Greg puts out a weasel vibe..

  • Manuel_Venator

    The Scandza forum should make a statement whether Friberg was invited or not (what Johnson claims as being the source of the trouble). Or did I miss anything? Anything else follows.

    There seem to be two Greg Johnsons. One is the writer of some of the most reasonable critical articles on the AR, always balanced, diplomatic and looking for the greater good. The other is said to be a petty troublemaker and schemer. I find it difficult to reconcile the two. Like Jekyll and Hyde. Maybe he was lied to in this particular case.

    Having the writer GJ in mind I can hardly grasp why he should make such heavy accusations against Friberg without any foundation – how could he possibly think he could get away with it if they are indeed unsubstantiated? It would be completely irrational behaviour, unlike the writer GJ who is usually rational to a fault.

    The AR movement can hardly afford to do without CC. It is still the most interesting and multidimensional site out there, as far as intellectuals are concerned (Occidental Observer is usually on the same level, but has a narrower focus). And to advance and grow, the AR doesnt need only memes, trolls or activists. It also needs good writers, good intellectuals. One weakness of the AR is that it does not have a real ideological foundation (only Jared Taylor and Kevin MacDonald come close and are on an academic level). GJ is practically the only one around working hard on that. Richard Spencer in comparison is mostly a spokesman and promotor, which is fine, but you need not only singers but also songwriters. There are very few really good, original writers on the AR and most are over at CC. There are more needed, as well as this site (altright.com) needs much improvement, as it is rather lame and predictable by now.

    • Kk

      Completely agree. Greg Johnson is invaluable as an intellectual and Counter-Currents is, dare I say, the most important site out there.

      He has his personal quirks but, overall, they fade into insignificance compared to his immense contribution.

      • An invitation had gone out to all members of our Facebook group, “Nordisk Alternativhöger” (“The Nordic Alternative Right”) in a post from the main organizer in April this year. A friend of mine who was helping to organize it called me up three days before the conference and told me that I had been disinvited “on Greg’s request, due to an infected conflict between Counter-Currents and Arktos” (direct quote).

        I fully understand the difficult position the organizers found themselves in, with the keynote speaker making such requests and they are not the ones we are criticizing here, but to say that I was never invited is simply a lie and a poor attempt at damage control to protect Greg’s reputation. However, this is a very minor point compared to the serious allegations Greg made towards me in the TRS Forum after the conference, which is after all what this article is all about. So let’s stick to that subject.

      • Hadding Scott

        “He has his personal quirks….”

        Yeah, like chronic lying. I’ve known this about him since 2012.

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    • Hadding Scott

      “One is the writer of some of the most reasonable critical articles on the AR, always balanced, diplomatic and looking for the greater good.”

      My goodness, you are easily impressed.

      • Manuel_Venator

        Nice try!

  • TK

    To clarify one thing—not only won’t he show his face, “Greg Johnson” isn’t even his real name. Huge coward.

  • Ungern Burkhan
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  • Loetzen

    To my mind, the worst thing about Greg Johnson is his batcrap-insane commenting censorship on Counter Currents.

    Honestly, one can leave comments that are simply critical of the premises of one of the pieces that he publishes (not even his own), or even broadly GREE with these pieces, with a few caveats, and STILL they don’t get published.

    I could understand not publishing comments that criticize HIM. I can even understand (if not like) not publishing comments that, say, attack homosexuality, if he’s a homosexual. But sometimes, the decision to publish or not publish comments seems to be utterly random and capricious. And of course, no explanation is ever given as to what get posted and what doesn’t.

  • I normally stay out of these spats, which are typically representative of the kind of drama afflicting fringe movements, but Johnson’s recent statements concerning ‘reactionaries’ and basically anyone who isn’t a fan of standard f*** parties and Western degeneracy, are abhorent. He needs to retract these statements and actually recognize that the heart of the problem is that ‘white people’ have ceased to have any kind of higher moral vision of life for themselves, hence why they are being erased.

  • jimmyt

    Counter currents has been doing a lot of inward criticism recently. It’s almost like some in the movement want to keep it small.

    Really makes you think https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7fd25bf86d6f9adac68ca86ef08135be0dce12d8294a4a187b041776c2c78418.png

  • Marquis the Renegade

    1. Homosexuality undermines the family unit. Instead of parenting being about biological parents, it purports to explain that anyone can be a parent regardless of whether they chose to have children or not. Parenting instead becomes socially constructed- dependent on whatever the people in power say it is. In politics everyone has a agenda it will be used to justify taking children away from biological parents to be raised by the state or by unfit non-biological parents. Since family is socially constructed you are no more entitled to your children than anyone else is. As such the family unit must be preserved against perverting it into something it isn’t- non-biological.

    2. Homosexuality undermines tradition. Both women and men play important roles in passing on traditions. Men by discipline and physical activities, and women by social values and emotional support – both work in tandem get a child ready for life in a community. Homosexuals don’t pass on traditions. a) most homosexuals are not monogamous, they in fact have hundreds of partners every year which gives them very little time or inclination (low-investment parenting) to pass on traditions to children (one of the reasons why polygamous societies never lasted long) since there won’t be a stable home family environment to facilitate that and b) homosexuals don’t have children of their own, which means you are glorifying and producing role-models that encourage people to experiment with the same sex instead of getting married. When you encourage a behavior, you get more of that behavior (operant conditioning). This means you will get less children/families & less traditions are passed on as a result.

    3. Homosexuality undermines meritocracy. Gays hire other gays. Instead of gays hiring men with the right skills, past work-experience (merit), innate abilities (intelligence or physical health) or character (virtues/values) for the job they hire someone who is batting for their team so-to-speak. Homosexuals can easily spot each other, which means it undermines any system that has a technocratic or meritocratic foundation.

    4. Alot of homosexuals (anywhere from 30-60%) are pedophiles. I think that is self-explanatory why you wouldn’t want them looking after children with that kind of risk. 40-50% of male homosexuals are victims of child abuse. 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/293111777/MALE-HOMOSEXUALS

    This is why Greg Johnson shouldn’t be any where near any children, positions of power or leading a movement.

  • Marquis the Renegade

    1. Homosexuality undermines the family unit. Instead of parenting being about biological parents, it purports to explain that anyone can be a parent regardless of whether they chose to have children or not. Parenting instead becomes socially constructed- dependent on whatever the people in power say it is. In politics everyone has a agenda it will be used to justify taking children away from biological parents to be raised by the state or by unfit non-biological parents. Since family is socially constructed you are no more entitled to your children than anyone else is. As such the family unit must be preserved against perverting it into something it isn’t- non-biological.

    2. Homosexuality undermines tradition. Both women and men play important roles in passing on traditions. Men by discipline and physical activities, and women by social values and emotional support – both work in tandem get a child ready for life in a community. Homosexuals don’t pass on traditions. a) most homosexuals are not monogamous, they in fact have hundreds of partners every year which gives them very little time or inclination (low-investment parenting) to pass on traditions to children (one of the reasons why polygamous societies never lasted long) since there won’t be a stable home family environment to facilitate that and b) homosexuals don’t have children of their own, which means you are glorifying and producing role-models that encourage people to experiment with the same sex instead of getting married. When you encourage a behavior, you get more of that behavior (operant conditioning). This means you will get less children/families & less traditions are passed on as a result.

    3. Homosexuality undermines meritocracy. Gays hire other gays. Instead of gays hiring men with the right skills, past work-experience (merit), innate abilities (intelligence or physical health) or character (virtues/values) for the job they hire someone who is batting for their team so-to-speak. Homosexuals can easily spot each other, which means it undermines any system that has a technocratic or meritocratic foundation.

    4. Alot of homosexuals (anywhere from 30-60%) are pedophiles. I think that is self-explanatory why you wouldn’t want them looking after children with that kind of risk. 40-50% of male homosexuals are victims of child abuse. 86% of pedophiles described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
    https://www.scribd.com/document/293111777/MALE-HOMOSEXUALS

    • Marquis the Renegade

      Homosexuality isn’t a private matter that can simply be discussed away and ignored, it affects the social community and lifestyle, the organisation in which the homosexual is in, and the wider civilisation in which they are in. Accepting some homosexuals will invariably lead to several more as a result of the sexual bias, and that cycle continues until you are protecting and harbouring many homosexual/pederasts. Anykind of softening on this position basically is faggotry and should be condemned. Anyone that doesn’t take a hardline stance should be excluded.

  • White Makes Right

    “Grindr Greg” Johnson attacks those prominent people because he’s a faggot and those people are (rightly) anti-sodomy. Sodomites are naturally toxic, and will attack anyone they don’t like, but particularly those who are against their evil lifestyle. This is why we must have an absolute zero tolerance policy for fags, and indeed any supporting or promoting tolerance of fags.

  • Marshall Lentini

    “The wounded amour-propre of the sexually insane”

  • Jack Sen

    The Alt right is a joke. Theres like one testicle between the whole movement. Alt right is a SJW movement for angry white males who like other angry white males. its made the news only bc it has hurt trumkp./ once it ceases to it will fade into obscurity along with green frogs and people like johnson and spencer

  • Rabbi Bergblattsteinowitz

    Does anyone else remember when Implicit Dick attacked Heimbach and barred him from NPI? Just me?

    • katebushfan66

      just you rabbi.

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