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Parents, Children, and the Alt-Right: A Father’s Perspective

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I was born in the rural South back in the early 80s when the internet was practically non-existent and cell phones were in their seminal stages. There was literally no social media then and our culture was such that most of our time was spent amongst family and friends. When we weren’t at school or eating dinner at a relative’s house, we could be found somewhere outside either fishing, shooting guns, or riding ATVs. Yes, we had a computer with AOL, as well as a Nintendo, but these weren’t as pervasive as their technological descendants are today. Our interests, attitudes, and worldviews were still largely shaped by our elders and the company we kept and given that the Dixiecrat culture was still rather prevalent in my town at the time, we were unwittingly redpilled to some degree.

I didn’t become explicitly redpilled until about halfway through my Marine Corps enlistment. While I am proud of my service, I was happy to get out and start a new career, but I greatly missed the camaraderie I developed with my fellow Marines, which proved difficult to find in civilian life. Thus, I began looking for organizations to join that shared my political and social views with hopes that I might be able to restore a sense of esprit de corps. For nine years I hopped around in various nationalist and/or identitarian styled organizations. With each organization I joined, I made it a point to attend at least one public event put on by the organization so that I could get a true sense of the caliber of people comprising its membership. My sole purpose was to answer a single question: Would I want my children exposed to these people? Frustratingly the answer was always a resounding no. Each event I attended ended with me resigning my membership out of disgust soon after returning home. The unprofessional, often disrespectful, and overtly degenerate behavior of these groups’ members was not something I would be comfortable exposing my children to. With every phone call made or email sent letting the leadership know I was moving on, my hope in the Identitarian movement grew bleaker. My relationship with my wife and children became strained due to my loss of hope.

I am a father of four children, two of whom are teenagers, which in this day and age, of course, means either having your own cell phone or being a social pariah. I live only 20 miles from where I was born and raised, and with the dawn of social media, the culture here has changed drastically much to the chagrin of what is left of the more traditionalist leaning families in the area. While I’ve given them an upbringing similar to my own, there is simply no way I could protect my children from the pervasive liberal culture that bombards them each day. Today’s youth are interconnected on a level their parents could never have imagined as kids. When I was young, news and information traveled much slower, mainly in the form of periodicals and the nightly news. For the most part, it lacked any sort of leftist bent. It was trustworthy because its mission was still, at least ostensibly, to inform, rather than to influence. All of this changed as we evolved into the 24 hour, on demand, digital age which the hand-wringing Culture-distorters used to their advantage.

Younger millennials and those comprising Generation Z have much larger social circles by way of social media. Their worldview is shaped much less by their parents and more through a leftist-saturated, anti-Tradition, anti-Authoritarian, pop-culture readily available on their devices. The customs of local and regional cultures have all but faded, taking a distant backseat to the Liberal, globalist, propaganda machine which thrives upon a generation whose time is spent mostly with its face pressed against a phone screen. It has placed younger redpilled parents like myself in a quandary. Because technology has developed so rapidly in the past decade, we are having to develop reactionary methods of rearing our children so that our cultural mores are not swallowed up by an increasingly global society.

In recent years the successes and failures of the “old guard” pro-White movements have given rise to a new age of Identitarianism, namely the Alt-Right. It has begun using the power and reach of the web to its advantage, particularly with regard to news and perspective websites like this one, and a multitude of podcasts in an effort to counter the Liberal onslaught. About a year ago I began listening to the Daily Shoah, Fash the Nation, and other TRS podcasts via my car’s Bluetooth during my work commute. These shows acted as a supplement to the dearth of any talk radio in my area which was already limited to NPR and local shows suffused with Boomer Cuckservatism. I was immediately impressed with how well the hosts articulated the Identitarian message, balancing serious issues with lighthearted humor and fresh ideas. What was even more impressive the sheer number of people now being drawn toward Identitarianism. The Alt-Right had found a way to put its ideas into the mainstream in a way that the older, more rigid organizations had never thought of. The Alt-Right had turned modernity on its head, utilizing the tools that initially worked to divide and further atomize the people to bring them together again.

Listening to these shows became a daily habit and I was so accustomed to it that I forgot The Daily Shoah was playing when I picked up my two oldest children from school one day. As we started down the road, I quickly realized my mistake and turned the radio off after my concentration on driving was broken by roaring laughter coming from the back seat. Over their pleading cries to turn it back on, I informed my kids that the show was inappropriate for their age. My son replied, “It’s nothing compared to what we hear at school every day, dad” and my daughter nodded her head in agreement. This did not sit well with me. Just what in the hell were they hearing and who were they hearing it from?

That night I thought about what had happened and what my son had said. It got me thinking about the kind of environment that my children are growing up in. What were they being exposed to that I didn’t know about? It was a question that I had regrettably not thought much about up until this point. I guess it never really struck me to think about it because they have always been good kids. They get decent grades, have plenty of White friends, are respectful to their elders and peers, and (thank God) abhor hip-hop culture. Because of this, I believe I grew too complacent as a father. Even still, I couldn’t help but think about how different the experiences of my youth were in contrast to theirs. My childhood was spent mostly outside, in the company of an all White family and all White friends, in a society that was relatively safe for our people. My oldest children were spending much of their time indoors, engrossed in their phones, listening to and witnessing things that were completely at odds with the values I was taught growing up, completely oblivious to a society growing ever more averse to their existence.

As a parent, it’s strange to know that my kids have been exposed to more in their early teenage years than I was in the first 25 years of my life, especially since the majority of what they are exposed to online, at school, and by their friends does not mesh with my worldview and thus the values I wanted to instill in them. But what could I do about it? My control over what information they consume or are exposed to is limited to the time we spend together, and the effectiveness of the guidance and advice I give them. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that my previous approach was not nearly satisfactory. So it was then that I resolved I would make a concerted effort to redpill my children using my own knowledge and experience, as well as the material produced by the new and various Alt-Right content creators, to counter the garbage they’ve been force fed by public school and society at large.

I began by becoming more involved than ever in their schooling. I started asking questions about what they were being taught, and where applicable, I offered a different perspective based on real-world examples. When I would counter a topic they’d learned in school, I would back it up by providing links to articles or chapters in a book so that they would understand it wasn’t just my personal opinion or point of view. Eventually, it got to the point where they began asking me questions about things they had learned from school or their peers, as well as researching things themselves. This begot dialogue after dialogue between us on a variety of topics that the Alt-Right had been discussing for years. The seed I planted simply by involving myself more in my children’s lives was now being nourished by their own, newly developed, critical thinking skills.

Long story short, my oldest kids are now voracious readers of AltRight.com and similar sites, and are two of The Daily Shoah’s biggest, and likely among its youngest, fans. Some may think that they are a bit too young to be listening to the show, and may be better served by only reading content that doesn’t contain some of the language and off-color humor found on The Daily Shoah. Of course, there is some truth to this, which is why I make sure to listen to each episode the day it drops in order to judge whether or not it is appropriate enough for them to listen to later.

Still, I do allow them to listen to some content that most normie parents might find appalling.  But going back to the aforementioned statement my son made about hearing worse in school every day, my attitude towards it is that if they’re going to hear profanity and otherwise age-inappropriate content, I’d much rather them hear it from a redpilled perspective controlled by me than an unrestrained, degenerate, leftist one.

The Alt-Right IRL

In late April I caught wind of an Alt-Right event being held in Charlottesville, Virginia, I thought that this could be a chance to impress upon my kids that the Alt-Right doesn’t solely consist of anonymous folk producing memes, articles, and podcasts. They needed to see that the Identitarian movement exists beyond the bounds of the internet and that the issues they read and hear about are indeed real. As it turned out, I was personally acquainted with a few of the event’s organizers so I knew, without a doubt, that they would only put on a respectable, professional event far removed from the events I had attended in years past. I spoke with my wife about it and since the event was not publicly announced (thus drastically reducing the chances of large crowds of violent Antifa members showing up) she agreed to let my oldest son accompany me.

We drove nearly seven hours to get to Charlottesville and arrived just in time Saturday morning to gather for the march from McGuffey Park to Jackson Park. When we arrived my son was immediately and enthusiastically welcomed by many of the attendees who were delighted to see that the movement was attracting support from the next generation. I introduced him to Nathan Damigo, Matthew Heimbach, Sam Dickson, and a few other movers and shakers before we took our place in the formation. Soon after, we began our march together, shoulder to shoulder, a father and son among hundreds of fellow Europeans, in honor of our fallen European ancestors.

When we arrived at Jackson Park, my son, being an artist in his own right, was immediately awestruck by the craftsmanship and majesty of the Jackson statue. I swelled with pride as I watched him soak in the speeches by Spencer, Damigo, Enoch, and Dickson. With each word spoken he was learning that the Great Replacement is a real and present danger facing Europeans not only in the American South, but all over the world. He was experiencing the real world for once, not the happy ending, egalitarian facade peddled by Hollywood and pop-culture. In that brief moment of time, he realized that he was part of something greater than himself and any individual in the crowd. This event was a rite of passage for him, his first step in his journey of becoming who he is.

Later on, we made our way to the banquet area where other early arrivals were setting up the tables and chairs. My son wasted no time in jumping right in to assist them. I listened in on their conversations as they asked him his name, where he was from, and how he came to find out about the event and the Alt-Right in general. When they were finished many of them shook his hand and thanked him. I was glad to see that he was paying his dues and earning their respect.

Unfortunately, due to time constraints, we were unable to attend the torch-lit procession at Lee Park that evening but the drive home that night was abuzz with excitement. My son couldn’t stop talking about the day’s events, what he had seen, heard, and learned, who he had met and talked to. We discussed some of the issues mentioned in the speeches and shared quite a few laughs at the expense of the handful of Antifas that appeared toward the end of the day march. While one of his fondest memories of the event was getting to shake hands and speak with Mike Enoch, the best part from my perspective was that I got to know my son better, and he got to know his father as not just a provider, but one of the many thousands out there trying to make the world a better place for him. We bonded not just as father and son, but, in many respects, as fellow fighters for European survival. While I’m sure we will be attending many more memorable events in the future, Charlottesville will always remain a defining moment in both our lives which neither of us will ever forget.

The reader may be asking, what positive things have come from the process of redpilling your children?

Until just over six months ago, my teenagers’ daily routine consisted of going to school, coming home, going straight to their rooms, and spending the rest of the evening chatting with friends or playing games, appearing only at the dinner table or to do their chores. In between her duties as a homemaker, my wife would sit and read, sew, or help with homework. When I wasn’t playing the role of “Normie Dad” by mowing the lawn, trimming hedges, or fiddling around with a project in the garage, I would sit beside her, my face either in a book or my phone trying to keep up with the happenings of the Identitarian movement. Save for the annual family vacation, and random trips to the lake or the mountains, our family life was mundane. Despite short-lived bonding moments during our trips and over superficial things like video and board games, sports, and movies, we didn’t have any really strong connections.

After they were exposed to the world of the Alt-Right, however, my oldest two have been spending the majority of their free time with me, their mother, and their younger siblings. On top of things like family game and movie nights, we spend time laughing about the newest memes making the rounds, something funny or interesting we heard on a podcast, as well as talking about current events and issues facing White people today. Not a day goes by now that I don’t get asked a question about something related to their new experiences. They’ve started to think for themselves which would have likely not been the case had I left them to the leftist indoctrination of public schooling, television, and their bluepilled social circles. Lastly, after over two years of lurking on the fringes of the Identitarian scene due to what I perceived was a dying movement, I have returned to the fray by supporting multiple organizations, attending Alt-Right events, and becoming an AltRight.com contributor.

Thus, over the past year the quality of my family life has improved dramatically. I’ve never been closer to my older two kids than I am now. I feel more like a mentor and a role model, as opposed to simply a breadwinner. Could all this have been possible without introducing my children to the Alt-Right? Sure. But I hate to imagine what sort of disservice I would be doing them by keeping them in the dark about the struggle that awaits them in life as White people. Not only did the Alt-Right help me bring my family closer together, but the things they are learning are serving to prepare them for the hardships they will inevitably face in a world turned against them.

My hope is that other redpilled parents who may recognize themselves in my story will take inspiration from it and apply this it to their own unique family situation. Being White in modern society is scary enough, but having children adds a whole new level of trepidation. As parents we are naturally inclined to protect our progeny. This is precisely why events like that in Charlottesville are so vitally important because the Alt-Right is nothing without the youth. Holding events that parents feel comfortable bringing their children to will only help pull more people over to our side. The left, or course, doesn’t want this to happen. It should come as no surprise that the event was derided in the mainstream media as a gathering of hateful racists on the wrong side of history. It is the job of the lügenpresse to instill fear in the minds of the populace in an effort to frighten any would-be supporters away, to keep up atomized so that we can be more effectively controlled.

Actions, of course, speak louder than words. I’ve said before that the Alt-Right must embrace its grassroots, bottom up approach. If we don’t have a solid foundation we cannot hope to build a movement that will last until it is time for our children to take the reins. We cannot do this sitting behind keyboards sharing memes, discussing political theories, and arguing over which approach is best. We owe it to our progeny to get up, get out, and do something. Our job is to develop the groundwork, to create a solid infrastructure for them. We cannot allow our detractors to frighten us to the point where we feel our children’s only safe-haven is at home, cooped up and alienated from their extended family.

We can counter the media’s falsehoods by creating a safe and family-friendly environment for everyone. Parents with children of all ages should be encouraged to attend future events so that the upcoming generations of our movement can get to know one another and grow together. While our events have been somewhat small lately, they will pale in comparison to future ones. Imagine the day when we are able to hold week long retreats during which we might hold classes where we, far removed from the influence of modernity, could teach our children about their heritage, about Tradition, the cultural achievements of their ancestors, and how to recognize and deal with the dangers they will face in the future. Imagine sponsoring summer camps where our children can spend their days amongst their own kind, participating in extra-curricular activities, learning practical life and survival skills, all the while developing friendships that will last a lifetime.

The possibilities are endless if we, as their parents, remain dauntless in our efforts to pave the way for them. The examples they will set for their peers back home, and eventually their own children, will have resounding effects that will not only help grow our numbers, but reinvigorate the racial and cultural spirit of our people. Through consistent, productive, real life interaction and instruction, the bonds we help develop between our children today will grow to be stronger than even the ones shared by us now, and will lead the Alt-Right and its ideas to ever greater heights.

I extend my heartfelt gratitude to the Alt-Right, its content creators, and event organizers. Keep up the good work. Your efforts are not in vain. I, and the rest of my family, look forward to seeing and working with you all again soon.

Jossur Surtrson
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155 Comments

  • As a fellow early 80’s child and father of four I really enjoyed reading this, thank you. My oldest is only 10 though. I caught her reading “Conquest of a Continent” and couldn’t have been more proud! Cheers!

  • With a fake surname of Surtrson, son of Surtr (the jotun of fire that fights the Aesir. effectively bringing about Ragnarok), I can’t take anything so you say seriously.

  • I’m a passionate alt-right father of two daughters (I’m trying for one more final child). I believe in mostly non-political parenting. I don’t believe in trying to shield your kids from pop culture. Of course, shield your kid from normal bad things, try to put your kids in healthy environments and good schools. Beyond that, I want to love my kids, be a super dad, get loved in return, and just hope my kids grow up well. Trying to control the cultural environment your kids see is likely to fail or backfire and lead to frustration and unhappiness. I will talk about politics when they are older. When they are young, I’m trying to avoid anything political at all. I want them to know that my love is not conditioned on that stuff. I want them to choose their own paths in life and grow into their own selves. I want them to love me as an awesome dad, but they don’t owe me anything beyond that.

  • Children are often much more reality-based than students who have gone through University education.
    My son attends a Christian school which being UK 2017 is mandated to teach multiculturalism, but he’s also been learning from me about the old Norse beliefs. Went to sleep Friday night to Ian Stewart singing “Road to Valhalla”…

  • I’m trying to work up the courage to talk to my parents about the Alt Right. I admit, while I have no problem engaging in an intellectual debate, I do struggle with rejection from the people I love. Of course, my parents fall into that category. I feel fairly confident that while they are currently strong conservatives, they will accept my views and possibly adopt much of them as their own. But, I do ask myself, what if they don’t? This article really is inspiring for me as I prepare for this conversation. Thanks so much for being real and talking about your own faults, your own weaknesses, etc.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpe7PGK2ZPw

    Did white people steal everything?

    In a way, Yes.

    They stole the secrets of the gods in Promethean manner & unlocked the mysteries of the universe.

    Whites unlocked the secrets of micro-organisms and how diseases happen.

    Whites gazed into distant space and discovered galaxies and black holes.

    Whites discovered the mechanism of atoms and harnessed nuclear energy.

    Whites solved the secret of flight and gained mastery of the sky.

    Whites cracked the secret codes of higher morality and envisioned a world of order & liberty.

    So, white people stole the secrets, ideas, and values that had once belonged only to the gods. Whites stole the keys to the countless mysteries that had baffled, mystified, or frightened the rest of humanity.

    And by unlocking the secrets known only to the gods, white people spread the higher & deeper truth to all of mankind. If not for whites, would any race be flying through the skies or probing the secrets of viruses?

    That is Power. It began when Prometheus stole fire from the gods.

    The real secret of white power is not that whites stole from non-whites. Whites ‘stole’ only crude rudiments like land and labor from non-whites. Every people stole such from other peoples since the beginning of time.

    What set whites apart from the rest is they mastered the art of picking the locks of the gods & the cosmos and walked away with priceless treasures of knowledge.

    You can steal land from red savages and labor from black savages. It takes no genius to conquer territory or enslave others. All peoples could do that and did that.

    But you can steal the art of navigation, art of medicine, art of flight, and the art of nuclear power only from the gods. Other peoples feared, worshiped, or pondered the gods. Only whites dared to access the secret vault of the gods holding the secrets of everything from the smallest atoms to the biggest stars.

    That is the true source of white power. White stole everything… from the gods.

  • I’m a father of one and medical student with a wife that’s a nurse, so this article resonated with me on a deep level. Do you guys know of any good redpill content for females?

    • It depends on what your level of diversity is, I guess. Crime statistics are obvious as well as anecdotes from the media. But visiting a Vibrant community is more redpilling than anything (btw- if you do this be safe. Blacks in my community threw coconuts at a White woman jogging with her baby in our neighborhood. Nothing is more redlilling than seeing this behavior in person. Again be safe).

      Otherwise, Lana Lokteff is good. I’ve listened to many of her podcasts/videos and I like “blonde in the belly of the beast”. All of the women are high quality. Their videos can be found in the media section of this website.

    • As a nurse, doesn’t the endless supply of Mexicans and blacks using the hospital ER force her to acknowledge the red pill?

  • Thank you so much for this article! I took the red pill not long after my daughter was born and I realized I had a personal stake in securing the existence of our people and a future for White children. Your article gives me hope that we can preserve our Folk and our civilization and pass the torch down to a new and a better generation.

  • “It’s nothing compared to what we hear at school every day, dad”

    Until our schools are explicitly pro-White, they’re POZed.

  • I am FOREVER grateful to the Alt-Right…….

    This was one of the BEST Articles I’ve ever read here……..

    Jossur……

    Thank you, my Brother……

    Your Story is Beyond Inspiring…….

    I would Log this in the Alt-Right Archives……….as Parchment…….

    The Alt-Right will NEVER die…..

    Jossur Surstron………

    That’s why……..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW7isS1Wd-I

  • Does anyone have any suggestions on how to be more involved in this movement as a woman? I tried the TRS forum but they’re not very receptive to females and I’m not interested in possibly being heckled with any posts. Is there a forum for Altright women or some way for us to network?

    • Check out some of Lana’s videos, Radio314. There’s a bunch on Youtube if you search it, she talks a lot about women’s circles in the alt-right.

      I’m not aware of any specific women’s forums, the alt right barely has forums as is. I believe Lana has talked about women’s groups before, though.

    • I second the suggestion about hooking up with Lana Lokteff’s circle, she has been doing videos with a number of Alt Right women and forming women’s networks.

  • White man with a white wife and four white kids, and everybody’s redpilled. Hook nosed nightmare right there, excellent work. You’re a model and inspiration for all of us that are still clawing closer to that goal.

  • Each event I attended ended with me
    resigning my membership out of disgust soon after returning home. The
    unprofessional, often disrespectful, and overtly degenerate behavior of
    these groups’ members was not something I would be comfortable exposing
    my children to.

    After 50 years of Costume Clowns, the White movement is finally getting serious and understanding the point of a movement is to get people on your side, not to drive normal people away with subculturalism and posturing.

    I began looking for organizations to
    join that shared my political and social views with hopes that I might
    be able to restore a sense of esprit de corps.

    Hence why I’m always harping on the need for civil society Institutions and advocating taking over the remnants of America’s once-great civic clubs. They are all still there, full of old people, just waiting for a new generation to take the reins. All you have to do is show up.

    • That is are really good idea actually. Previously they were (so I believe) bastions of white civil service and brotherhood, many of which had brick and morter club houses and what have you. It’s like some of the ground work is already done. My grandfather was part of “the Lions Club”, is that the type of thing you are referring too?

      • Yes, the Lions Club and all the rest, Knights of Columbus, BPOE, Shriners, etc. There are many of these clubs that still exist, but just barely, with an aging population that would be happy to have some young blood.

        All you have to do is show up and they will gladly turn over the reigns to a new generation.

  • There were cell phones in the early 80’s and the internet existed (outside of the military)? News to me. But otherwise good write up. I also grew up outdoors in the South with only Whites as friends and neighbors, and even though we had Nintendo when I was about 14 if you didn’t stop playing video games and learn to dip and/or smoke and drink beer and chase girls you were a Momma’s boy. I’m not saying it was good to use tobacco and drink at that age but what a difference now. It seems kids don’t even want to grow up. Sad really. Good on you for fighting the system and winning with your kids. You are lucky to have a wife who supports you in that. Many if not most White men today do not have a wife like that.

    • Yeah, there were some points in the article that were off. I mentioned his point of TV News not being liberal as being incorrect in my view. Even growing up in the 90s when the Internet was first starting, it wasn’t pervasive for my age cohort like it is for young people now.

  • One of the most inspiring articles Iv read here on altright.com. I am of a similar age and can relate to the authors upbringing and have the same worries about raising children in today’s society. I am just in the process of starting a family now but already I have questions swarming in my mind about how to lead my children down a path of shared values in the face of liberal indoctrination attempts.
    The recent growth and professionalism of identitarian events gives me hope. I am having trouble fully swallowing the red pill…but I suppose that’s why it’s the red pill and not the blue. I thank all those more courageous than I who are paving the way for people like me. Keep up the good work.

    • I think it’s really important that you show and tell your children, and grandchildren where their ancestors lived, struggled and died. I’m glad I got to see an old family farm in Virginia before it was turned into a golf course & resort. Places like Fort Necessity where George Washington turned back the French and their Indian allies. Sharpsburg, and Antietam creek, various battlefields in the Shenandoah Valley & Virginia where my now distant ancestors bled and died. Only last year did I discover the grave of one of my Revolutionary War ancestors.

      Colonial and early America were hard places, the bad old days, before radio, TV, the internet, electricity, running water, indoor plumbing, anti-biotics, you name it. That in itself is worth getting kids to understand.

  • The nightly news lacked a leftist bent in the 80s and 90s with Brokaw, Jennings, Rather?

    • In our town, the nightly news was local news, not NBC and such. I guess I could have made that point clearer.

      • Wasn’t national nightly news carried on every station? The local station where I grew up was podunk in every sense of the word, in a good way. Then it got bought by Rupert Murdoch’s daughter and was ruined!

        • If memory serves, we had five stations. A couple did broadcast national news. Some of the local news stations still broadcast here, but they’ve been infested with the same leftist garbage one finds in cable news.

          • Here, Rupert Murdoch’s daughter fired the respected local sixty something Anchorman who sang in bars like Ron Burgundy (I am not making this up) and replaced him with young idiot anchors and sensationalistic, tabloid trash.

          • Well because all the local news stations are owned by the major media conglomerates who are owned by who? Yea we know. The same goes for the local newspapers. All owned by a special people.

          • Haha. Yea crofters sons from Ireland, they took out big money loans on their potato harvest way back in 1840, invested wisely in potin stills and now have cornered the market in media. Damned wily Catholics.

          • The same with the Italian trash who came here in the early 20th century, they all used their Mafia slush funds to buy and own the American media.

          • Man, you don’t know the half of it. Ole man DeWop’o he sold so much spaghetti to the fat Americans at his corner cafe that he and his whiskey running Mick accomplices bought it all up.

          • I also heard Bavarian Catholicks came in 1848, opened breweries, got rich, and worked with their fellow Catholicks the Micks and Wops to run the media and ruin White America with the Jews.

          • That malicious Bavarian Illuminati. Then they brought the Poles in. You see no one can grow potatoes like the Pollock. They grew so many potatoes that they made rivers of samigon (moonshine/potin) and used the proceeds to buy up the West together with the Wops, Micks, and Illuminati Yodelers,

          • Pity party.

            Oh, the poor little Roman Catholics, we White Protestants have been sooo mean to them. All they want to do is bring all of their Mexican, Puerto Rican, and other non-White Roman Catholic co-religionists here to enrich us.

          • Most White Protestants are normal and are not an Autistic Faggot like you are.

          • Pity part. Oh, the big mean White Protestant is being sooo mean. All we Roman Catholics want to do is to enrich you with more of our Mexican, Puerto Rican, and other non-White co-religionists.

          • Then explain why just about every damn Roman Catholic in politics and the media is for open borders, and more 3rd World immigration into the USA. They are your co-religionists.

          • I saw a Catholick sh!tlib politician on TV once so EVERY CATHOLICK is a race traitor!

          • Mate, you are so off-base its insane. If anything, we’re dealing with a Neo-Puritan WASP/Jew alliance here in the States.

          • Hardly, you need to watch the votes in the US Senate—you will know exactly what I’m talking about.

          • Senators like Chris Coons, Bill Nelson, Angus King, Chris Van Hollen, Amy Klobacher, Jon Tester, Tom Udall, Martin Heinrich, Heidi Heitkamp, Sheldon Whitehouse, Mark Warner?

          • For a hint; who founded Harvard, Yale and the Ivy League? And who dominates it now? Who founded Wall Street? And who dominated it now?

            The Micks and the Wops?

          • “who dominates it now?”

            Is that a joke? The real WN movement has already proven that these institutions actively discriminate against White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, Whites from the midwest, and actively recruit Jews who score lower on tests than Whites.

            This is how anti-American some of you are – Jews literally destroyed our culture and you are blaming the victims because you share a completely fake victim narrative with Jews.

          • That was my point. Stop being paranoid. Founded by WASPs taken over by the Jews the WASP elite allied with.

          • The Catholics have been “allying” with the Jews for 1500 years. Then Calvin came along and took away the special financial rights the Pope gave the Jews – and it led to the Northwestern European Protestants taking over the earth and inventing the modern world. It’s not a coincidence that while the Southern and Eastern Catholic countries remained mired in primitive superstitions, the Protestants surged ahead economically and scientifically.

            Where the Protestants colonized – like in America, Canada, and South Africa – they remained White. Where the Catholics colonized, they miscegenated with the natives, hence nearly everyone south of the Rio Grande is some shade of brown.

            WASPs were on top until the age of the TV, that was what broke us. Yale had restrictions on Jews until the TV era. When the anti-white Catholic E. Michael Jones talks about the “WASP Jew alliance” – he is talking about how the WASPs tried to assimilate ethnic Catholics and have them identify as “white” – which Jones says is awful because “WASPs are the real racists.” Jones says this supposed WASP Jew alliance” was “racist” because some Bible church in the south said that blacks had the “mark of Cain” and brags that the Catholic church never taught that, and that even a Black African can be a German if they learn the language.

            You faux-Catholics should probably worry more about your next Pope – who will be non-white – and stop whining that the mean old WASPs didn’t invite your uncle into the golf club. Let’s not forget that the majority of Catholics are not White. The majority of Presbyterians are White – and our biggest minority are Koreans…

            What was it that Jesus said? Take that beam out of your eye then maybe you can find the speck in other people’s eyes? Good advice, you should take it.

          • Ever heard of the Spanish Inquisition? What kind of stupid historical revisionism are you selling? You are seriously delusional. Which is typical of Prodies.

            In case you didn’t know the Catholic church supported Black slavery in the South. The Pope wove Jefferson Davis a crown of thorns and had it sent to him in prison after the war. Every major Southern city had Catholic churches and their was never the idiotic anti-Catholism in the South that the self righteous WASPs engaged in.

          • “a Neo-Puritan WASP/Jew alliance here in the States.”

            Yeah, that is exactly what the Jew Mencius Moldbug and his NRx/Social Matter movement says. It’s not the Jews pushing anti-Whiteness, it’s really the “Puritans.” In fact, traditional Judaism is fine, they were just infected with “liberal Puritanism.”

            Kevin MacDonald doesn’t push such things at all, but points out how the WASP elites were replaced by Jews, and much of that had to do with Jewish control of the media.

            It’s disheartening to see a White movement embracing every Jewish anti-WASP (((Hollywood))) stereotype of the last 50 years.

          • In that case, the pagans are right that it’s actually all the fault of the Catholics who introduced Judaism to the West in the first place.

            E. Michael Jones is a great resource, but of course he thinks Blacks can be “Germans” and that race doesn’t matter and denies any positive White identity. He wants all races united under the Catholic church. He’s functionally anti-white.

            So you’re willing to endorse full on anti-whites as long as they trash the traditional people of White America.

          • He simply points out the protestant/jew alliance. Never heard him endorse anti-whites.

          • “what the wasp has wrought.”

            Is the Alt-Right now officially an anti-White Anglo-Saxon Protestant movement, i.e., anti-American, anti-English, anti-Scottish, anti-Welsh, anti-Canadian, anti-Australian, and anti-Kiwi? I had assumed it was a pan-European movement for all White people.

            I’m curious too if you actually watched the Jones video, as he was specifically discussing the CIA – which included many “Catholic collaborators.”

          • The Alt-Rights leaders are all anglo saxons, so I dont see how it could possibly be anti-WASP.

            But you knew that.

          • Because criticizing historical American WASP political and religious tenets that were one cause of why America is where it’s at now is Anti-American!

          • uhh… how about Patrick Buchanan? How about in Europe Viktor Orban? How about the fact that the destruction of the west is led by Protestant nations such as the USA (New England Yankee nutjob city on the hill utopian cuckstianity), Sweden, Germany, the UK, Holland and so on and the nations most opposed to the White genocide are Catholic and Orthodox.

            Good enough for ya?

          • Calvinism was a stupid theology, my understanding is that most Calvinist Protestant churches have wisely trashed most of the tenets of Calvinism.

          • No. Presbyterians come from the Scots Calvinist tradition of John Knox. Orban is Hungarian Calvinist.

          • Neither has any other Catholic (except Kennedy who got assassinated half way through his first term.) Protestants and Jews are to blame for modern day libtarded Weimerica. Not Catholics.

          • Anyone one who knows American history knows that Calvinism dominated America. You know, New England? Harvard, Yale and Wall Street? How about women’s suffrage and Prohibition? And abolitionism? And now atheistic America. Yea, must have been the Micks and Wops.

            Only retards who cannot read claim otherwise.

          • Irish and Italian Americans have come so far in America and contributed so much, and yet we still have throwbacks like Krafty Wurker who want to blame us for everything that goes wrong. SMDH.

          • You are the one peddling Jewish lies that Italians “weren’t considered white” and said you wanted to exclude Anglos from your ethnostate.

            You are engaging in the rankest form of petty nationalism, then your cohorts turn right around and complain about other people engaging in petty nationalism.

            Talk about chutzpah.

          • There were Italians in America long before Ellis Island.

            During the Ellis Island era, Italy wasn’t sending their best. They were rapists, mafiosos – and some of them I assume were good people.

          • Lol the parallels between how Italians were viewed then and how Mexicans are viewed still does not escape me. If you look at how the Italians are depicted in this cartoon, WASPs clearly didn’t view them as “white brothers.”

          • My mom has one of her old school books from the 50’s and it describes Italians, Irish, and Eastern Europeans the same as we do modern non-white immigrants. History can be harsh.

          • Yeah, I don’t really carry a great deal of resentment and acknowledge that the WASPs weren’t entirely wrong. Italians are unique from Northern Europeans. I’m proud of our uniqueness, and want to preserve it. HR would rather sweep history under the rug, blame it on the Jews and embrace Pan-European nationalism, which I regard as only a cut above the American Civic Nationalism/Western Chauvinism peddled by the Alt-Lite

          • “HR would rather sweep history under the rug, blame it on the Jews and embrace Pan-European nationalism”

            Thankfully most Catholics and Italians have a greater regard for truth. It’s you pushing petty nationalism and anti-Anglo (read: anti-American) resentment because – JUST like a Jew – you are pretending to hold a grudge because your Uncle Mario wasn’t invited to the WASP golf club, supposedly.

            Then, your fellow anti-White Finkelstein complains that it’s the White Americans who are actually engaged in petty nationalism and we should all … unite in One Grand Catholic Nazi Costume Party, or something.

            The only thing you people really have in common – since you aren’t real Catholics anyway and mostly just play act as religious – is you are anti-White and hate the traditional people of America, just like Jews do.

            Just like the Jewish-run NRx movement, which is openly pro-Jewish and openly pro-Zionist and 100% anti-American.

            Five years ago the Jewish trolls were pretending to be “Nords” and would posture against “Meds” – now, apparently, the Jewish trolls are pretending to be “Meds” and posturing against “Nords.”

            You are either pro-White or you are anti-White – which is it?

          • I’m pro-white. I just acknowledge the diversity of European cultures. I’m not interested in whites all being molded into one entity united by nothing but their shared whiteness. “We’re all part of the white race” is only a cut above “We’re all part of the human race.” White isn’t my identity and neither is European. Italian is my identity and I’m proud of it.

            Catholic Nazi Costume Party ftw btw.

          • If that is true, I don’t see why you are arguing with me. I’m the one that wants to preserve my American identity, I have no interest in forcing all White ethnic groups into one shapeless “white” mass. You’ve never read me complaining that Italians want to keep being Italians. You’ve also never read me complaining about Catholics wanting to be Catholic.

            My complaints are precisely the opposite: the Jewish trolls that play-act as (((Hollywood Nazis))) and sedevacantist are always attacking Americans and demanding we all LARP as Clerico-Fascists, and just like Jews (which most of them likely are) they go out of their way to attack Whites who won’t play along.

            I’m not sorry in the least bit that my ancestors viewed the people you claim are your ancestors with suspicion. If you have a hang up about that, feel free to be resentful and join the anti-WASP grievance club. Just don’t expect to win any friends outside the playpen.

          • LOL I’m not a Jewish troll. I just reject the myth of Anglo greatness. If you want to drink Asian tea three times a day and deep fry everything the way Negros do who am I to judge. I do carry a little resentment for my peoples destiny being stolen from them by the Anglo/Jewish/Commie alliance during WWII though tbh.

          • You should repatriate back to Italy where you won’t be forced to associate with Americans anymore. I’m a 100% supporter of Italian nationalism and wouldn’t want my son marrying an Italian woman, because of my great respect for Italian womanhood.

          • Just as soon as the EU removes it’s Vampiric teeth from Italia I will return.

          • Well the Anglos are leaving the EU, so you may want to focus your anger on the Germans and the French.

            Glad to see you acknowledge you aren’t an American, merely a tourist. You have to go back.

          • I actually live in Canada. And no, I don’t have an ounce of Patriotic Pride for this “country.” I actually respect what America once was a lot more.

          • I understand what you’re saying. It’s tricky though. I don’t want us to become like Black Americans with one monoculture. But at the same time we need a united front. Many of us are already “culturally mixed.” Where do go from there?

          • All of our unique cultures are under cultural assault in the exact same way. I have no problem working with non-Italians for our shared interests and common goals. I’m just not a pan-Europeanist. That doesn’t mean we have to be hostile neighbors, but I would like to see our cultural traditions preserved.

          • I am constantly hearing “Why is it so important for you to preserve a ‘White’ identity? Why can’t people just be proud of their ethnic heritage?”

            Of course there is nothing wrong with honoring your Irish, French, Swedish, Polish, etc. roots and ancestors. But when we walk down the street people don’t see an Irish-Eastern European man, a British-German-Dutch-Irish woman and our Irish-British-German-Dutch-Eastern European daughter — they see a White family. For better or worse, slavery and the melting pot created Black Americans and White Americans. Those identities exist and they aren’t going anywhere: Golda Meir claimed there was no such thing as “Palestinians” and we see how well that worked out. We play the hand we’re dealt. We’re White Americans whose culture is rooted in Europe and in the New World: our culture is under attack and we need to preserve it lest we go the way of the Etruscans.

          • Almost all of the weird cults in American history, from Puritanism to the Great Awakening to Abolitionism to Progressivism to Civil Rights, have their apotheosis in New England Calvinist Puritanism.

          • Most in the Alt-Right are red pilled on the JQ at this point, but not nearly enough are red pilled on the PQ.

          • It’s complicated but Protestantism (if I can paint it with a wide brush) is Judaism for goys while traditional Christianity was founded, fertilized and grew in opposition to Judaism. Traditional Christianity is the ancient world of Greece and Rome and Europe.

          • Christianity in name only, without any of the substance. Thats how I see it.

          • See what Giuliani did to New York? That’s what happens when you give Italian Roman Catholics power.

          • I don’t care about White Prot Cucks or Catholic kid fiddling Priests.

            I care that you vomit all over the comments on every article with the same half baked Sperg tantrum.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein, to say that I don’t trust you is an understatement. You maybe a pro, I am too.

          • Says the guy who vomits all over the comments on every article with the same half baked Sperg tantrum.

            You just started it right in this thread, picking up your trolling from the other day.

            You even insist on using the Jew “G-D” nonsense.

          • You are so easy to bait, you’re already writing your characteristic 9 paragraph temper tantrum responses in this thread.

          • Not trolling, just having fun watching you flail away, as usual.

          • Your next line is supposed to be, “you just hate JOOOS because of your personal failures.” You hasbara have a limited set of talking points.

          • White European descended Catholics have been the most racist (I use the word as our enemy does and personally reject it but anyway) people in America and defenders of European civilization. I’m not sure what a snake handling church is promoting. Maybe African voodoo? Or how about all those Prodie revivals in the 19th century South that brought Blacks and Whites into close contact? Where whites got Black musical influences such as can be heard in bluegrass.

            Nah, give me Europe any day.

          • We were starving in Europe, and the mean old White Protestants in the United States took us in and fed, and gave us jobs and a place to live. That was such an evil thing for the White Protestants to do…Holy Mary, and all of the Saints and the Pope too.

          • Stupid. Your ancestors were also Catholics. And you do know Krafty Wanker that that is a sin?

          • Seems you have internalized the jew version of American history. Or maybe you are one? Tell me o Crafty Wanker, to which church do you belong?

          • I bet he believes in the Rapture fairy tale, HAHAHAHA. He’ll get to heaven while G_D punishes the Jews and Catholicks!

          • I said White European descended. Muds from South of the border don’t count.

          • They formed the Democratic machines of the Yankee Northeast and were in a political coalition with the Jews against Midwest Americans until they were forced to abandon the left because of abortion.

            Now people pretending to be their descendants are kvetching like Jews as if their grandparents weren’t allowed into a golf club. It’s amazing how their faux-resentments are lifted directly from Jewish kvetching about Uncle Schlomo and WASP “antiseeeemitism.”

            Of course none of these people are what they are pretending to be – they are just signalling against traditional Americans – us. Six months ago they were writing bizarre religious nonsense on TRS about brown peasants in South America getting visitations from Mary 100 years ago and how that somehow had to do with the White cause in America.

            They are almost the same as the “NRx” movement which was started by a Jew and blames anti-whiteness on “Puritans” and traces the fall of Europe to the Reformation. Hence their use of the term “Cathedral” instead of “Synagogue.”

            As you can see they never miss an opportunity to troll against Protestants or “pagans.” It’s basic bitch divide and conquer, they aren’t even actually religious, half of them are sedevacantists, so they aren’t even really Catholics.

            They are just trolls.

          • Sedevacantists are the only real Catholics left. The Catholic church proper has lost its way.

          • “Sedevacantists are the only real Catholics left. The Catholic church proper has lost its way.”

            So you did join the Protestant Reformation, just 500 years too late for it to matter.

            All that Catholic posturing is just play-acting. As I was told by a Catholic right here, just yesterday, Catholicism isn’t a democracy. The Bishops decide what “real Catholicism” is – and they decided that you aren’t one.

            I guess you are going to hell along with all the Protestants!

          • Thats what Catholicism Inc. argues too. In my view the Catholic Church has engaged in a Protestantization process. The Sedevacantists are keeping it real. It is a deviation of the authority of the Papacy, but when the ship is sinking it’s a good idea to hop on a life boat and jump ship. Christianity in general is probably dying. If theres a hope to save it it’s coming from Traditional Catholics and Eastern Orthodox sects.

          • I’m not included in your category, thanks. Us Southerners have a real reason to be resentful of the Puritan Yankee and later on his alliance with the Jews.

            I’m for all White peoples and nations. Even Puritan Yankee blowhards like you.

            But you’ve got to call a spade a spade. And you have to come to terms with the biological inability of Nordic/Germamic peoples (such as yourself) to see the forest for the trees. Read MacDonald for more on that.

          • I’m a Southerner, both sides of my family fought for the Confederacy. You want to try again?

            I’ve also read all of MacDonald – before he even started TOO. You want to try again? In fact, I’m quite familiar with MacDonald’s thesis about NW European psychology of egalitarian individualism – I’ve written about that specific thesis numerous times and featured his speech at NPI two years ago – you want to try again?

            MacDonald is an atheist, by the way, and has numerous times said that he hoped WASPs rediscover their identity. So don’t even try to use MacDonald as some sort of anti-WASP source, he isn’t. My views are far closer to MacDonald’s then the clerico-fascist LARPers here.

          • Yeah, MacDonald has balance, and he can take legitimate criticism. He’s aware of my contention that there is a Roman Catholic & Jew political alliance in Congress, the State Houses, and most big city councils. It really doesn’t take away from his criticism of the holier than thou New Englanders, which really hasn’t been changed any to the good by Roman Catholic immigration into New England?

          • Are your contentions worthy of his time? Are you his contemporary? Are you a published author? Professor?

            I thought not.

            Understanding the deadly role that WASPs have played in the mess we are in and the role their ancestors in Europe have played in the mess Europe is in is not anti-WASP. We are for saving all White peoples and nations not just the WASPs.

          • MacDonald is brilliant. I’ve read several of his articles from TOO and they’re top notch. Yuge fan.

          • The damn Portigee Catholicks also came into New England and California at some point, and got so rich off dairy farming and fishing that they worked with the Micks, Wops, Pollocks, and Katholick Krauts to help the Jews craft a Final Solution to the White American Question.

          • Those Catholics were so malicious that they opposed abolition, women’s suffrage and prohibition.Their evil White European religion tried to hold back modernity and progress, defend the family and promote Tradition. Good thing those Micks, Wops, Krauts, and Pollocks were done in by Protestant atheism, materialism, feminism and progressivism.

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