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Massive Victory Day Marches In Russia; A Meet-Up With Russia’s Alt-Right

I participated in the Victory Day march in St. Petersburg. The one in Moscow gets all the press, but the one in St. Petersburg is almost as big.

These marches all have a volunteer portion to them now as well. They call it the Immortal Brigade. Literally millions of Russians show up with photos of their grandparents and great-grandparents that fought in the war and march down the main street. It is a huge part of the Russian government’s program to revive civic nationalism in Russia. The great victory against all odds in World War 2, the Orthodox faith and the sports program are 3 of the main columns of the program to revive civic pride that the Kremlin is pursuing. Naturally, this march is a big deal. It became an even bigger deal after the events in Crimea as the lackluster parade suddenly became a massive civic phenomenon. Overnight, the parade became absolutely huge, reaching crowd sizes even larger than those in 1945.

The liberals were quick to downplay this natural outpouring of patriotic sentiment, but the truth is that they were completely floored by what they saw, and no amount of nit-picking about numbers and accusations of paid attendees could mask the truth that literally millions of people almost spontaneously were marching all around the country.

Now that I’ve stuck my usual shiv into the Liberals, I can move on with my personal observations.

I could not help but notice some of the messier details of the march. For the most part, these were not locals participating. People that marched in the Immortal Brigade drove, metroed or trained in from the suburbs or even neighboring cities. St. Petersburg’s center is filled with hipster SWPLs. None of them were present, not even as bystanders along the routes. After living in a city for enough time, you can tell who belongs and who is visiting, who lives in the bohemian center, and who had to come in from the suburbs.

Also, the crowd was middle-aged or older.

The black and white filter makes them look even older than they are.

There were virtually no young couples in the crowd, and hardly any students. This was despite the fact that May 9th is a holiday and they almost certainly had the day off. There were young kids in the crowd, but they came with their families. After the marchers made the trek along the entire length of Nevskiy Prospekt, they settled into the parks and started relaxing, eating sandwitches and of course, drinking.

I peeled off from the march near the end to go into a cafe that I knew had a balcony on the top floor with a breathtaking view. Naturally, its one of those SWPLy hipster haunts. The place is usually filled with the most bohemian fashionable types that have nothing better to do with their time. Today was no different. Despite having a balcony with a view of millions of people marching with flags and banners and music, the hipsters could not be bothered. They remained where they always do- lounging on the divans, bathed in hookah smoke.

How could you pass up on a view like this?

Right after I rejoined the march, a fight broke out right in front of me. Two Vibrant groups were beating each other with the sticks that are used to hold up the photos of relatives. One man fell to the ground, his head covered in blood. The other group started kicking him until the police stepped in. It all happened very quickly. Everything was calm and then suddenly- CHIMPOUT.

It was on the Winter Palace plaza, near the end of the march. The Jesus flag is being flown by a volunteer brigade of Novorussian Cossaks.

The two groups were Armenians and Azerbaijanis. The Armenians took offense to the Azerbaijani flag being flown among the group of Azerbaijanis and so they attacked them. I almost immediately began to start worrying about whether the civic nationalist program could possibly hold up in Russia- especially among the Bashkirs who hate the Tatars or the Chechens that hate the Dagestanis and the X who hate Y groups. The answer is that there will be peace as long as there is strong centralized Russian power making sure to break up every single fight before it gets too out of hand.

Meanwhile, the future should worry the Kremlin. The youth are drifting away from the program and increasingly becoming Nationalists or Navalny-type Liberal Nationalists.

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A couple of days before the march, I met up with the Russian nationalist group, the Black Hundreds. I was very impressed by their organization. Although I hate to admit it, it was far more organized than our organization in the United States. They have their own bars, their own printing house and an extensive network of peers. I suppose it is easier in Russia, where there is no White Guilt to speak of and a good deal of racial friction anyway.

They were all aged about 25-35 and all clearly middle-class to upper-middle class. These are the Bobo Nationalists of Russia. In that sense, they are just like the Alt-Right in the United States, Nordic Youth over in Sweden, Generation Identitaire in France and Austria. They didn’t really participate in the marches either.

For them, the divide between them and the march attendees is like the divide between the Alt-Right and the Alt-Lite.

It was surreal to hear Alt-Right talking points repeated to me in Russian. Many had read Kevin MacDonald and knew about Richard Spencer. Some sported a fashy haircut. It got me wondering if maybe Globalization wasn’t such a bad thing after all.

 

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Crud Bonemeal
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Russia’s great patriotic war stuff can be tiresome, but let’s keep a little perspective.

Americans still celebrate WW2, which directly led to the death of Western civilization and to the descendants of those American GIs becoming a hated and persecuted minority on the brink of being wiped off the face of the earth.

Kumiko Oumae
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Okay, how is this for some perspective? The United States, despite all that behaviour, also had the advantage of having been the opponent of the Soviet Union during the Cold War, in which it tolerated the presence of much of the old Axis networking and personnel who wanted to get a second chance at struggling against the Soviet Union. There is a very big difference between siding with NATO after 1945, versus siding with the Warsaw Pact states after 1945. It’s an absolutely enormous difference. Also, the thing which is actually getting tiresome here, is watching you people trying to… Read more »
Pedro Alfonsinho
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Cold war was a theater. Jews controlled / controll both sides

Smash Islamophobia
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Yep. See “Red Carpet” by Joseph Finder (got shut down by Armand Hammer’s lawsuit, but available used). Or Anthony Sutton’s “Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development” for some of the details of how the USSR was dependent on Western technology and resources. Or, as a microcosm of the Cold War, take a look at the career of one of the most well-known Soviet Communist agents, Alger Hiss. Hiss’s career (including after he was accused of being a spy and after being in jail) included stints at: the State Department, the United Nations, clerking for Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr, the Justice… Read more »
Kumiko Oumae
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No.

Chrome
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For the record Victory day in some Eastern European countries is called The day of victory over fascism.

craicher
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Also could it be that the marchers are from the poorer soviet projects on Petersburg? Not just from the countryside. All the post communist nations have high rise slums (some slummer than others) around their big cities. For any of you who want to go to said nations and meet the real people I recommend hanging around the poor parts of town.

Fred
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The Soviet Union stopped being a melting pot towards the ’70s. While the generation of my grandfathers inter-married easily (’30s and ’40s), my parents already had to overcome resistance to marry a different nationality within the Soviet Union. Towards my times, in the ’80s, not only marriage to a different nationality, but a serious pre-marriage relationships were considered a crime. The nationalism has stemmed from the Caucasus area and taken over most of the country. Simultaneously, the share of Slavic nationalities, the ideological base and the melting pot glue, has been shrinking since the late ’50s. Through the deep-seeded, constitutionally… Read more »
craicher
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With some exceptions the true Russians (slavs) should purge the aliens back to the stans. No racial aliens in European Rossiya!

Jack Burton
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“I hate to admit it, it was far more organized than our organization in the United States.” It’s a false equivalence though because Russians are the same ethnicity. Ethnic bonds are stronger than just civic nationalism and even “white” racial nationalism. America’s loss of ethnic cohesion hurt us in the long run. Southerners were the first American ethnic group and Yankees hated it along with our racialism so they conquered us and that’s where we are today.

Pedro Alfonsinho
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wrong, russia is more multirracial that USA . slavs are just 30% of russia population.

craicher
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30% my ass. More like 80%. And that all depends on where you are.

Pedro Alfonsinho
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LOL….80%NEVER!You have no idea what you’re talking about. The Jews destroyed Russia. In the Soviet era, internal migration and forced mixed marriages produced tens of millions of mongrels. The Mongolian dwarf putin is an example of this process

craicher
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So who are you? I have been to Russia and Ukraine and most of Eastern Europe and funny I didn’t see those mongolians.

Putin looks, and acts, White to me.

I smell a Yid!

Deplorable_Pam
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Shut your mouth! “Globalism not such a bad thing after all”

Frank Saxon
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It is a communist march. I would not call it even alt-light.

craicher
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News flash, communism died 26 years ago. They will never go back to communism in Eastern Europe. Besides not everything was terrible under communism. Though it was an accident the people behind the Iron Curtain retained much more of their racial as well as cultural heritage.

Fred
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Every Russian is an implicit nationalist. They become explicit nationalists after a few shots of vodka. Regardless of their age, sex, and origin.

Fred
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Vincent, who has told you that Chechens hate Dagestanis? That is just simply not true. As for Bashkirs, they have a titular nation privilege in Bashkortostan, albeit well unfounded, directed mostly at Tatars (in some cases at Russians). But beyond Ufa and Bashkortostan, there is no explicit hatred between Bashkirs and Tatars. Azerbaijanis and Armenians, I sorta agree, although the animosity does not typically spill to neutral territories, beyond Azerbaijan and Armenia. The biggest issue Russia is facing, which the mighty Putin has not been able to solve, is huge demographic losses among the Slavic majority. However, unlike in the… Read more »
Pedro Alfonsinho
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slavs are minorie ,just 30% of russia federation

craicher
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You spread lies here. I believe you are a Rubenstein.

Pedro Alfonsinho
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Appeal of Russian nationalists to European (white) nationalist (right) and conservative organizations “We need to secure the entire Russian youth from the virus of nationalism” Vladimir Putin Dear colleagues! The future of European nations and European civilization depends from you. The problems that we face are similar: the hordes of immigrants from Third World countries, displacing indigenous people, Islamization, degradation, the retention of power left (cultural Marxists, internationalists, neo-Bolsheviks, and so on.) This situation does not allow health national forces to take adequate measures against these problems. Propaganda of nationalism and racial identity is banned in most European countries. However,… Read more »
Jonathan McCann
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Your words are so moving, this just comes to show that it’s very important to get connected with like minded people.

What matters Is that we unite into a supercunglamret of white nationalism to further our goals.

A Wise Man
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White populations are shrinking everywhere, and globalization is inevitable. If we don’t use globalization to our advantage and form a pan-European alliance, then we will make things much harder on ourselves.

Bruce Regael
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Exactly why we don’t have time and energy to waste on supporting stupid “Civic Nationalist” ideas either. If we were growing in numbers, even slowly, or didn’t have intermixing issues then perhaps it could prolong the inevitable outside of our generation, but that isn’t a luxury we have. Putin loves to brag about Russia’s 1,000 year multicultural history while ignoring that for most of the time they were kept terrestrially segregated from one another with minor mingling. Also up until WW2 Russia had the highest birth rate in all of Europe. The old model just doesn’t work anymore under our… Read more »
Stalinistinen homoneekeri
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Stalinistinen homoneekeri

Russians are all faggots😆

Jarno Alander
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I won’t claim to understand the nuances of politics in Russia — especially not nationalist politics, since the multitude of different groups, parties and platforms is bewildering, bizarre, often downright absurdist, and not always unintentionally — but I’ll tell you right away that there are no advantages whatsoever to gobbling down the microwaved remains of the Soviet Union that the present regime is peddling. The Russian imperialists/supremacists dreaming of a Eurasian empire, a sort of CCCP2.0, will gladly use you as useful idiots if you allow it, but to them America will never be anything other than an enemy. It’s… Read more »
Kumiko Oumae
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I just want to address this part here: It’s China they really want an alliance with. Russia can want that, but what is actually happening is something far more complex. There’s a lot of decent literature on this topic, but here’s one typical example: http://www.nbr.org/publications/element.aspx?id=494 That’s basically how it is. Russia Trapped Russia has ended up in a position where it is trapped between the economic blocs of European Union and its associates to their west and southwest, and between the Asian factory bloc which increasingly integrated and (in terms of latitude to act in ways that are strategically consequential)… Read more »
Pedro Alfonsinho
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alt richt is no pro russia , but pro jew’ russian”

craicher
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Pedro go back to Mexico with your brother Paco.

Crud Bonemeal
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I won’t claim to understand the nuances of politics in Eastern Europe… but our “natural allies” over there seem to be far too friendly with the american foreign policy establishment. I’d advice you to re-re-think.

Jarno Alander
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So Eastern European nationalist groups aren’t really natural allies to the American Alt-Right. Well if you say so, but if I were you I’d re-re-re-think it. Especially if you’re tempted to throw your lot in with the Putinists instead. I’m not sure what you refer to when you mention the American foreign policy establishment, but I wonder if it might not actually be the Eastern Europeans’ general lack of kneejerk anti-Americanism and their shall we say “naturalistic” view of Russia.

Crud Bonemeal
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I don’t know who our natural allies are, we may not have any. But if there are any, it is probably somebody who hates the American foreign policy establishment (IE: (((neo-conservatives))), hawks and liberal internationalists) as much as we do. Eastern Europeans are no doubt very based, but some seem to feel that their incentive is to cozy up to the United States government, to get it to do their fighting and defense for them. This potentially conflicts with our desire to reign in and ultimately hamstring the American foreign policy establishment, and impose a more isolationist policy. Frankly, if… Read more »
Einar von Vielen
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It took the Soviet’s asian empire and resources, millions of east European partizans and exile armies, the armies of the british empire including Canada and Australia and India, the US technology, production capacity and full metal USAF and GI power, french resistance, other remote places support and resources (even Costa Rica declared war to Germany), to fight down a country (please forget Italy and due to their smallness Hungary and Finland) that today has an army of 180.000 gendered life guard soldiers. Any questions?

Azra neko
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As Russian myself, I have to say this. What the hell you are talking about??? Lets fact check. “There is no White Guilt to speak of” There no “White Guilt” because we dont have black people nor we didnt have history of enslaving someone. Quite the opposite actually we had communism. There were no supremacy of one group over another. And it is also hard to tell who is Russian and who is not this days. http://dakazan.ru/2010-03-01/mishare-sorevnuyutsya-v-bogatstve-i-trudolyubii/ “Black Hundreds is Russian nationalist group” Ах да… Черносотенцы Actually they are more a christian fundamentalist group. here their website. http://www.sotnia.ru/index.php This days… Read more »
Pedro Alfonsinho
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“Some call it Marxism – I call it Judaism.” Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, in the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935 “The revolution in Russia is a Jewish revolution” The Maccabean (New York), Nov. 1905, p, 250 “Jewry is the mother of Marxism.” Le Droit de Vivre, May 12, 1936 Judaism is Marxism, communism” Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 64 “The communist soul is the soul of Judaism.” Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites… Read more »
Dymitry
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Unlike the Russians, the Muslims in Russia actually make an effort to preserve their traditions, instead of bragging about how traditional they are and then imitating westerners anyway. I understand some of the hostility towards them Russians might have, especially because of militants and organised crime from the Caucasus, but at the same time they provide very good examples of how to fight modernity, zionism, and american “culture” that European nationalists could learn from. Gabor Vona is one of the few that understood this very well; the alt-right would still have credibility if it continued to promote such thinkers and… Read more »
Vincent Law
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I don’t see any disagreeement.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Hey, look, who’s Virtue Signaling again! Muh Berlin Wall!

https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/862067624129245190

Le Happy Pepe
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Ramzpaul really is the Eternal Boomer. Sure, Soviet-style communism was mostly terrible from an economic perspective, but the Berlin Wall was necessary to prevent a brain drain regardless of the economic system involved. Underdeveloped states will never achieve prosperity so long as their most productive and high IQ citizens are allowed to leave for greener pastures. Ramzcuck is basically making the case for mass immigration here.

Kumiko Oumae
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Are you actually serious?

Le Happy Pepe
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Yes. If I was the leader of a third world country, I would create the equivalent of the Berlin Wall. We would all be better off if the human capital of third (and second) world was not looted on a regular basis through mass immigration. Such a policy is perfectly consistent with race realism and eugenics, both of which I support.

Hipster Racist
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Thankfully you aren’t any sort of leader of any sort of country and never will be.

Le Happy Pepe
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Lol. I absolutely love the irony of reading sanctimonious, moralistic lectures about purity spiraling, LARPing, and public respectability from a 9/11 truther who writes BDSM spanking erotica on his blog. You really have your finger on the ideological pulse of the average white normie, don’t you?

Hipster Racist
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“You really have your finger on the ideological pulse of the average white normie, don’t you?”

Far more than your type, yes.

Scott Schroeder
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Any wall built to keep people in is a prison wall.

Any country that has to shoot escapees is a failure.

Johnny Fash
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Le Happy Pepe should be the next mayor of New York tbh.

Kumiko Oumae
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If you have to build a literal wall across the length of a city so as to keep one half of the people separated from the other because of underdevelopment, it means you did something wrong.

For an example of that on a grander and even more grotesque scale, see North Korea.

Hipster Racist
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FFS, I said this was going to happen – the “Alt Right” has now dragged themselves down to Antifa’s level and are now indistinguishable from Antifa itself; they have become the monster they were supposed to fight. Lay down with dogs, stand up with fleas.

The Berlin Wall was officially referred to as the “Anti-Fascist Protective Wall” (German: Antifaschistischer Schutzwall) by GDR authorities, implying that the NATOcountries and West Germany in particular were considered equal to “fascists” by GDR propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall

Le Happy Pepe
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From about the 1930s to the 1950s, Stalin purged most Jews from positions of influence in the Communist Party, and antisemitism became the unofficial policy of the USSR from that point onward—as can be seen by the position of the USSR in the Arab-Israeli conflict. Also, not coincidentally, the USSR was generally socially conservative and traditionalist after the “rootless cosmopolitans” were mostly gone. The Soviet Union subsidized childbearing and taxed those who did not breed. From the perspective of white demographics, therefore, the collapse of the USSR was an absolute tragedy. Male life expectancy fell off a cliff, and much… Read more »
Hipster Racist
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“the Berlin Wall was necessary to prevent a brain drain … Underdeveloped states will never achieve prosperity so long as their most productive and high IQ citizens are allowed to leave for greener pastures”

You just made RamZPaul’s point … you are literally justifying Communist Jews enslaving half of Germany for decades.

Le Happy Pepe
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-Being expected to stay and work in one’s country of birth after having received decades of free public education and investment.

-Being “Enslaved”

K

Hipster Racist
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Good luck trying to win White people to the pro-White side with East Germany Communist nostalgia, I’m sure that will work. People voted for Trump because they wall is to keep Mexicans OUT, not white people IN.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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RamzPaul’s point was lame virtue signaling and propping up various petty nationalisms in response to Nina Kouprianova tweeting about Russian Victory Day.

Hipster Racist
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Actually, no, your point was lame virtue signaling and you get triggered by Ramsey because he called out the fact that all the Nazi LARPers are actually Jews long before your partner Joshua Ryne Goldberg was arrested.

Of course it’s not surprising you have a soft spot for Communism, considering.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Stick to the topic at hand, RamzCuck’s lame boomer Mindset, not some Jew troll you autistically bring up in every thread. You’ve brought up that Goldberg guy, now Krafty Wurker will chime in and blame all of WWII on Irish and Italian Catholics.

Ranting about Commies is dumb. This isn’t Free Republic or World Nut Daily.

Hipster Racist
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So you hate boomer Whites, and millennial Whites – not surprising at all coming from a Finkelstein.

“Ranting about Commies is dumb.”

You sound just like Antifa, again it’s not surprising.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_(Hardt_and_Negri_book)

Yehudah Finkelstein
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I hate it when Boomers virtue signal like Paul Ramsey in this instance. I don’t hate all boomers. There was a bad article on this site that said “Boomers sind unsere ungluck!” and I criticized the article because the Alt Right would not exist without David Duke.

Most Alt Righters are Millenials so why would I hate Millenials?

Hipster Racist
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I’m assuming you hate Millennials for the same reason you hate Boomers – your Uncle Shlomo wasn’t invited to the golf club and you still hold a grudge.

You pretty much do nothing but attack white people who won’t play along with the Goldberg act – you are certainly consistent.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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No, I only attack Autistic retards like you and Krafty Wurker who post the same B.S. over and over again in every thread. You know, narrow range of interests like “Joshua Goldberg” or “IT Catholicks” means you’re on the Spectrum.

Krafty Wurker
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“Oye vey, itz another holocaust I tell you.”

Hipster Racist
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It’s telling that mentioning your partner, Goldberg, is so triggering to you. It really gives your whole shtick away.

You derailed the entire thread by bringing up McInnes in order to purity spiral against White baby boomers. I was on topic; I was responding to the article.

Krafty Wurker
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McInnes is a Roman Catholic or so it’s claimed?

Johnny Fash
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Catholics don’t approve of sticking black dildos up ones ass on TV or making out with faggots like Milo. Their both fake ass Catholics and a product of Vatican II.

Krafty Wurker
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Keep telling yourself that…

Johnny Fash
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Yehudah Finkelstein
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As fake as illiterate low Church holy rollers like Krafty Wurker?

Johnny Fash
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lol nah. I think he’s legitimately sincere in his mediocrity.

Krafty Wurker
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I’m sure your infallible leader will lead you to the promised land.

Johnny Fash
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What leader is that?

Kumiko Oumae
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‘Russian Victory Day’, symbolises the gigantic win which the Soviet Russian entity gained over the Wehrmacht and over the Kwantung Army.

Just in case anyone has actually forgotten that. Why is the Alt-Right commemorating this? Literally, why?

Pedro Alfonsinho
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No, it commemorates the victory of Jewish supremacism over nationalism

Yehudah Finkelstein
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The Alt Right isn’t commemorating anything. A Russian woman was. And RamzPaul had to butt in because he has a boner for Ronald Reagan speeches and believes Eastern European petty nationalist agitprop.

Pedro Alfonsinho
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nina kouprianova is not russian,but mixed of georgian jew origin

Kumiko Oumae
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Okay, but I also support spreading Eastern European nationalist agitprop, Central Asian nationalist agitprop, and Caucasus and Circassian nationalist agitprop, Tatar agitprop, and any other kind of similar agitprop.

I’m not sure why anyone wouldn’t. This is one of the few times where whether it is accidental or not, RamzPaul actually got something right for once. Obviously no one actually believes the content of Ronald Reagan speeches, Reagan was just one of the people who had to sell it all to the ‘normal people’.

See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism

Yehudah Finkelstein
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“I’m not sure why anyone wouldn’t”

Because Petty Nationalism is retarded. Read Benedict Anderson’s Imagined Communities. All of these “National Identities” are fake and are constructs of the 19th century. Petty Nationalism only came about because of mass media like newspapers where everyone read the same news in the same language. Before that, all identities were regional.

We need to move beyond nationalism and think about Racial Empire.

Kumiko Oumae
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Well technically everything that humans do is ‘fake’ in the sense that everything beyond the old tribal wigwam/igloo/thatchedhouse village arrangement is born out of the artifice of the process of state formation which began when armed groups began declaring ownership over land and water resources in the territories that sedentary societies had developed. I don’t see how fawning at the feet of the Russian Empire which desires to establish a buffer zone across half the Eurasian continent (which apparently includes even the Northern Korean peninsula which is rendered inaccessible to everyone by installing a madhouse there) is any more ‘authentic’… Read more »
Hipster Racist
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“fawning at the feet of the Russian Empire”
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Yehudah Finkelstein
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Well if you don’t like Spencer you can always leave, which will make everyone here happy. That will give you more time to watch the latest Gavin dildo and RamzPaul Boomer Cuck YouTube clips.

Kumiko Oumae
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That’s probably one of the most accurate memes on this issue that I’ve seen so far. That is basically how it has been going, and it’s pretty horrifying to see.

Hipster Racist
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I doubt Spencer takes the Dugin stuff any more seriously than he does his own pro-EU ideas. It’s interesting and makes for conversational fodder and blog posts, but it’s not like introducing people to Dugin’s ideas is going to have a particularly huge impact on American (or European) White people. Pro-white (and counter-semitic) ideas are growing of their own accord, AFAICT we just need to keep the purity spiralers from driving White people away with their incessant LARPing and faux-ideological purity. As the other commenters mentioned in the previous thread, all the people in the “Alt Lite” will eventually get… Read more »
Catiline_Conspirator
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The EU is implicitly White. No evidence Spencer is LARPing on this.

Vincent Law
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You have to be white to have a say.

Pedro Alfonsinho
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FUNNY, BECAUSE ALT RIGHT THIS FULL OF JEWS /NON WHITES.

Kumiko Oumae
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Crud Bonemeal
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nobody seems to read that website

Kumiko Oumae
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The statistics are on an upward trend, actually.

Crud Bonemeal
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no place to go but up

Kumiko Oumae
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It can only go up! And that upward trend is largely attributable to me being invited onto the team in 2015. I take full credit for that.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Race can’t be faked and is the most powerful force in human relations in the 21st Century. Nationalism can be fakes. A Muslim Tatar or an Asiatic Siberian is “Russian.” A Mexican illegal or a heathen Chinee is “American.”

Kumiko Oumae
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So hold on, you are acknowledging that Russia is basically encamped atop other people’s lands, and that in ‘real’ nationalism, Tatars and Siberians should actually just secede from Russia?

Okay, I agree to that idea 100%. But you had started this conversation in opposition to precisely that kind of behaviour.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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No. Russia should be part of a white empire from Lisbon to Vladivostok.

Kumiko Oumae
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Well, I think the Russians should be dead if they attempt that, but hey.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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I’m clearly not advocating a Russian conquest of Europe.

Kumiko Oumae
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Oh, so you are just claiming that continental Europeans are going to be ridiculous enough to pool their sovereignty with that of Russia willingly?
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Even if Europeans were to do something that stupid, can you think of one seafaring nation that would quite rightly do any and everything including hiring mercenaries to start a war on purpose to disrupt it? I can.

(Hint: It’s Britain. And seriously, memes aside, Britain would really disrupt it and they’d be correct to do so.)

Crud Bonemeal
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Britain’s foreign policy hasn’t exactly done whites many favors in the last 100 years or so

Kumiko Oumae
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Yes it has. For a big example, see: The Cold War.

You can thank them later, but I know you won’t.

Marathon-Youth
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Vincent Law
Globalization is horrible. I hope your conclusion is just a joke and I will take it that way. Otherwise a great article.

Myles Davidson
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I think he meant the globalisation of information. He probably shouldn’t have capitilised the word. If that’s what he meant, I agree with him.

MylesStandish
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An horde of Tatar mongrels celebrating the rape of Germany – disgusting.

May 9th is a day of mourning for the entire Germanic world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQ6J5F01Do

How long until Kushner’s cucks outlaw freedom of speech and thought in America?

Ozymandias
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They’re celebrating the downfall of Hitler. The Alt-Right should not be glorifying this Jewish spectacle.

Nicky
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Please go look up Richard Spencer’s wife. Full on Bolshevik, denies that gulags even existed, claims we are all “right wing idiots” that get everything wrong about the glorious Soviet Union. I’m not joking, look up her twitter.

Nicky
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Oh and her twitter is @NinaByzantina, go see for yourselves.

Nicky
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So the real WN don’t celebrate this garbage day yet Richard Spencer’s wife had a meltdown on twitter yesterday, denying gulags existed and spouting Soviet propaganda. Go look for yourselves, fellas. It’s unreal.

So Spencer is married to a Russian version of a Alt Lite Patriotard. Interesting and hilarious.

Ozymandias
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She’s NazBol – a fusion of Nazism and communism. Pretty weird, I agree.

Johnny Fash
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I’m not too familiar with National Bolshevism (never read Dugin or Limonov) but just from reading the Wikipedia page on it, it sounds like a pretty typical Third Postionist ideology. Socially conservative, ultra nationalist, economically leftist. It also is characterized by the same Pan-European Nationalism that Richard Spencer endorses (and I personally reject.) Calling her a full on Communist might be a little bit of a stretch (she doesn’t seem to endorse the Leninist/Trotskyite varities of Communism) but yeah, I can’t really get behind her statements on Twitter. Fuck the Soviet Union.

Catiline_Conspirator
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Here is a pretty good primer on Dugin by a Romanian critic of his. Basically he is a duplicitous fraud.

https://youtu.be/CdkfEKOVaFc

Nicky
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She uses “nazi” and “right winger” as a slur, and seems to suffer from a really distorted high opinion of herself, which is both sad and hilarious. Her arguing is like that of a far leftist “I’ve got a PhD in Russian History you peasant!!”

Nicky
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Were they aware that Richard Spencer’s wife is a communist? What did they think of him? You didn’t say, wonder why…..

curri
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haha, you’ll be ramping up the Russophobia to an even greater level with this report. The gutter press like slate and buzzfeed will be raising the alarm about the new Black Hundreds.

Krafty Wurker
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Wait until someone says, “LOL we made it all up and you dumb bastards reported it”.

Anyone watched any recent Russian WWII movies on YouTube? The Russian war flicks start out with the hero getting his face beat in by the NKVD. He’s redeemed by the German attack, because the Russians need officers, because so many were shot in Stalin’s purge of the Red Army. Take it from there…

VaronosMinxaouzen
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Oh the GLORY of Communism!

Krafty Wurker
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It’s amusing how the Russian war movies portray Asians, like American war movies portray American Indians. I guess they do have tee-pees, and genetics in common?

Hipster Racist
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Anti-hipster is a code word for anti-white.

Robert Bruce
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I thought hipsters were liberals in general?

Hipster Racist
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In fact, just read this comment from the video:

“Despite its ironic intent and context, hipster racism still appears to perpetuate prejudicial racial ideologies. The difference between more harsh forms of prejudice is that this style of speech seems appropriate and relevant ingrained in the belief that it does no real harm. Those who exhibit hipster racist tendencies seek to escape accusations of racist behaviour on the grounds that they were “only joking.””

They are serious, by the way. “Hipster Racism” is an academic subject and part of “whiteness studies.”

Smash Islamophobia
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This is, of course, an excellent avenue for attacking self-hating Whites– LARP as a POC, and attack them for “racism,” no matter how self-flagellating they are. Make it clear that “racist” = White; that there’s no where to hide. No safe space.

Hipster Racist
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Except none of the people you are describing as “hipsters” are “self-hating whites.” So you’re just barking up the wrong tree here.

Smash Islamophobia
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The tactic is not dependent on the exact semantics. I’m not particularly invested in an exact meaning for “hipster,” tbh. But it’s important for people to realize that “racist” means, not “badwhytes like Clevon from the trailer park,” but “White.” In another sense, “racist” simply means “heretic,” of course– a way of shutting down discourse without addressing truth vs. falsehood.

It’s also important to devalue accusations of “racism,” “anti-semitism,” “xenophobia,” etc., so it’s useful to dispense them liberally.

Hipster Racist
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The “SWPL” book came out and was immediately embraced as a sort of proto-white identity, of course somewhat tongue-in-cheek. It followed another book, “Bohemian Bourgeois” which had the same meaning. This actually caused consternation among anti-whites – all of sudden people were identifying as “white” who were very much NOT Clevon from the trailer park. The “SWPL” guy even had an interview where he was all but forced to deny he wasn’t “racist.” “Hipster” came out in the early 2000s and it was literally just a silly joke – white music nerds making fun of each other. It almost immediately… Read more »
Hipster Racist
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Liberals are the real racists.

It’s mostly a joke, but just read the articles written about “hipsters” and “hipster racism” in the last DECADE – it’s pure anti-white hate and demonization. It really proves the point that even if you are “liberal” – if you are white you are, by definition, “racist.”

The term “hipster” is in fact used as a racial slur for urban white youth – it’s a “code word” in the same way that “thug” and “youth” are code words for urban black youth.

Let the Asian explain:

“What the worst thing you can call a white person?”

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Hipsters tend to be libtard SWPLs wearing glasses out of the Khrushchev era. There are SOME Alt Right hipsters like Spencer, but they’re rare. Most hipsters are like the execrable Rod Dreher.

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Hipster Racist
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Rod Dreher is a FIFTY year old writer for the American Conservative. He’s pretty much the exact opposite of a “hipster.”

I really lucked out when I picked this handle as a joke five years ago – it really triggers anti-whites, of both the “left” and (((“right”))) variety.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Gavin McInnes INVENTED hipsters and is 46. Dreher is a hipster. Sorry if it triggers you that a sack of crap like Rod Dreher is readily identifiable with your Disqus handle.

Hipster Racist
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McInnes didn’t invent hipsters. I had to look up who Dreher is because apparently only Jewish Nazis even know who he is. It’s amusing, but not at all surprising, that you sound like a typical anti-white Jew – you use the same insults and have the same sneering contempt for White people that they do, which I guess isn’t surprising, considering…

Yehudah Finkelstein
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You had to look up Dreher because you’re a dilettante who doesn’t know $h!t from shinola.

I do have contempt for most urban SWPL hipsters because they’re not on our side. Not hard to understand. The real question is, why do you identify with and defend self loathing White hipster liberals?

Hipster Racist
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“they’re not on our side.”

They are not on your side, certainly. I’m White, and far from self-loathing. The hipsters that I know have white children – something I’m guessing you do not. You know, that whole “14 words” and all?

Again, not at all surprising coming from a Finkelstein.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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All the hipster bastions like Brooklyn and Portland are well known for their right wing politics Wasn’t it in Portland where a Cuck Multnomah GOP rally was shut down in Hipster central? It’s not my fault most hipsters suck ass. Key word is Most. Not all do because I’m not making a blanket statement. Of course in your Sperg tantrum you fail to see that.

Hipster Racist
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According to you, millennial urban whites suck ass, and conservative rural whites suck ass (they are “cucks”) – and boomers suck ass – are there any White people you don’t hate? Or all we all just “goyims” to you?

Wait, don’t answer that – the answer is obvious.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Many Millennial Urban whites do suck ass, look at the way they vote.

Rural Whites are fine, thanks for interjecting them into the conversation. Rural whites make a fine juxtaposition with Urban SWPLs who love diversity but live in white neighborhoods!

Tokarev
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Hipsterism = Dogs instead of babies.

Hipsterism = Self-Inflicted White Genocide

Hipsters are a Genocide on white people!

Hipster Racist
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A hymn to Hermes
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“Hipsterism” is just another form of white flight. It’s steeped in deep investments in subcultural nonsense which are specifically divorced from moral dimensions and hence potential political conflict.

You can pretend that the “Hipster” label applies to a wide swath of the white population because of what frizzy haired mulattoes preach in “Whiteness Studies” but that isn’t the common understanding of what the term means.

Hipster Racist
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First of all, “hipsterism” isn’t a real thing – it’s an ironic label that was picked up by anti-whites and now it is essentially an anti-white slur. Second, the people that are usually labelled “hipsters” are the ones doing a “reverse white flight” and engaging in gentrification in urban areas and are attacked by anti-whites precisely because of that. Third, the “common understanding” of the word is two-fold: first, the aforementioned ironic label, and second, the anti-white slur. ” It’s steeped in deep investments in subcultural nonsense” Ironically, it’s pretty much the opposite of that – that’s the whole point… Read more »
Smash Islamophobia
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Used by the Right, it seems as if it is more often a synonym for SWPL– Whites who verbally signal allegiance to anti-White progressive orthodoxy, and look down on “rednecks” and “White trash” and “racists,” but who engage in implicitly White activities and culture, but would never admit to it in those terms. In this sense, ramping up the use of “hipster” as a slur is good– as long as they grow to understand that it is their whiteness that is the problem, not any more superficial trait.

Hipster Racist
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Yes, and the “right” is using both terms – SWPL and hipster – incorrectly. Neither had anything uniquely to do with “signal[ing] allegiance to anti-White progressive orthodoxy” and both labels, SWPL and hipsters, are almost always used by anti-whites to mean “whites who may be liberals but who are still totally racist.” As I said, “hipster” has now become nothing but yet another permutation of “white racist” – half the time the word “hipster” is used descriptively it’s paired with “racist.” “.In this sense, ramping up the use of “hipster” as a slur is good– as long as they grow… Read more »
Smash Islamophobia
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“Yes, and the “right” is using both terms – SWPL and hipster – incorrectly.”

More ironically, in most cases. Especially SWPL, which is typically taken to mean, not “the type of White person portrayed on the eponymous website,” but rather “the type of White person who would take that website seriously.” And the term “hipster” is a little tough to define precisely, especially since it seems to be applied to others far more than it is adopted as a self-description. But I think I’m headed down a semantic rabbit hole here, so…

A hymn to Hermes
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Hipsterism is absolutely a thing and it is basically white people pretending to be apolitical by only caring deeply about bullshit which can’t be used to peg an identity to. The people who are doing “reverse white flight” are overwhelmingly on the far left and are disproportionately Jewish and homosexual.

Hipster Racist
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“only caring deeply about bullshit ” Ironically, the left always attacks “hipsters” because they are not invested in anti-white politics. A few years back the Wall Street Journal did a profile of Rand Paul’s likely voters and described them as “hipsters” that never embraced anti-white identity politics. Also as a cultural term “hipster” implies people who do NOT take subculture seriously. I didn’t invent the term – I’m using it the way it is actually used and pointing out its use as an anti-white slur as well as an ironic self-label often used by whites to mean “white.” “The people… Read more »
Bob
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You can be anti hipster and still VERY white …

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