Media

Unconscious Cinema: What Are We Thinking?

Mark Brahmin and Richard Spencer discuss their new podcast, Unconscious Cinema, their starting point for interpreting pop culture, and their plans for the podcast.

Notes

Rob Ager
Jay Dyer
Logos
Liberals and cities
Taliban’s destruction of art
The Kouros Boy

  • Tyrone Atreides

    Spencer on movies? Sign me up. But where’s the download button you lazy nigs?!?!

  • Myles Davidson

    Great podcast! Will be a regular!

  • katebushfan66

    are you not entertained?

  • James OMeara

    Semite vs. Aryan. See my review of The Green Lantern, the title essay of Green Nazis in Space!

  • Yehudah Finkelstein

    Certainly what we need are more podcasts about comic book movies and Milo articles.

    • Mike549

      I remember when I used to listen to video game podcasts and read Vdare. I kept thinking, “when are some people going to start doing rightwing podcasts?” Now there are so many that I can’t begin to even keep up with them.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Vdare has always been lame for the lack of comments. I read it 10-12 years ago, then moved onto Takimag and the first Alt Right site.

        • It seems that both ‘alts’ always had a problem with being dry as toast before this gen.
          Meme warfare = autists finally learned how to communicate their finds to normies.
          I look at things like that, Telesur, or LewRockwell (for a pair of random centrist and far left picks) and ‘KNOW’ they are saying some important things here, but I have to force myself to read through it.
          Counterpunch is the absolute worst because Cockburn (hah!) has a strict no-media (images, sound, video, etc) policy, and has since it opened because he believe they will ‘distract the reader.’ That’s probably the most luddite philosophy I’ve seen in ages. I think this is mostly a result of all the Uni-bred people that took up ‘journalism’ to counter either Iraq War push. I heard someone once say an Intercept article “was written more emotionless than my mid-term” and I think that’s a good description.
          This “term paper news” that sprung out of autistic leftie diggers on 90s campuses and literal paleocon dinosaurs on the right, you know has important and accurate information, but often reading it is such a mental grind that you can’t finish it.

          “Oh what’s this, 8 page spread on Hillary and Sarkozy in Libya? This must have a lot of daming information!” and an hour later you just want to quit and forget the site ever existed. I feel that’s why Bernie’s online army failed so hard. They all still write like that. They can’t break out of that uniform “APA guidelines” writing style.

          • Yehudah Finkelstein

            I’m not of this Millenial Shitlord Gen, more of an Alte Kampfer egging them on.

    • Joseph Curwen

      Also, we need more articles to tell us how we are going to win through electoral politics, I really need that.

    • Albionic American

      The nerds have taken over Hollywood. Do Jewish boys read comic books more than white boys? That could explain a lot.

      • Yehudah Finkelstein

        Dude Comic books are exclusively the purview of Jew nerds.

  • Simon_in_London

    Rob Ager does a lot of good work. Loved his excoriation of Saving Private Ryan.

  • Krafty Wurker

    I’m more interested in seeing what Spencer has to say about healthcare in part two of his essay. Not that Dick goes to the movies won’t be fun. Or Dick reads a novel might be fun too. There is and has been a real shortage of fiction geared to White gentiles. Well, the Irish Catholics and the Italians seem attracted to Jew mass media swill like Jack Ryan, and Mario Puzo.

  • Riopel

    re: The Terminator
    John Connor > JC > Jesus Christ
    Skynet or The Terminator is Herod, trying to kill Christ before he can save mankind.

    But please start using White instead of pejorative “gentile.”

  • Riopel

    Drive is the ultimate alt right movie.
    White male protagonist is autistic and socially maladaptive from living in a rootless urban environment.
    Villains are scheming jews.
    White male’s sense of chivalry gets him into trouble with said jews and race-mixing White girl.

    • Nicky

      Though I love and enjoyed Drive very much, the White Male kills and sacrifices for the White woman who is a race mixer and her mixed child. Not sure how that would be Alt Right?

      Soundtrack is 👌

  • Undercover Lover

    >Watching something on (((Netflix)))
    No thanks. I’ll just pirate it.

  • Charles Martel

    Very interesting conversation. Especially intrigued by the notion of encoding our ideas into film. Hoping this will be a familiar refrain in episodes to come. Outstanding first episode from Mr. Brahmin and Mr. Spencer.

  • Muzeli 2

    Superb.

  • rutger4

    Very interesting. Im good at going deeper into films but I had not seen the Jesus myth in the matrix.
    About post literate. I think this is an exceedingly exciting development. Us humans, we did not evolve to read and write, its a very recent development. Our ancestors could configure poetry while speaking. The could tell stories that we can not dream of telling today.

    It is also great that the centralization of storytelling is being broken. It has been increadibly harmful, not just to us but to all humans. 500 years ago I could go from Stockholm to the south tip now sweden and i would pass a dozen modes of dress, styles of cooking, variations in building houses, local storytelling traditions, even local variations on the common myths. 300 years before that I would even pass several different law districts and the local variation would be even greater. And all this with a tenth of todays population
    Today if I go the same stretch most everything is the same. This is even true if i travel around the world. I will shop in similar malls that might even have the same layout filled with the same stores and the same clothes, I will watch the same stories being told in the cinemas. Billions of people produce infinately less human expression than our ancestors did. Even if each individual today will have access to a wider range of human expression the population today produce increadibly less expression. The only way this cultural desert makes sense is from an individualistic “feels” life goal. Narcististic and barren. But if we truly think about it we are the poor ones.

    • Atlantian Nationalist

      500 years ago your ass would be dead from the plague.

      this is what happens when people have it too comfortable.. They start getting existential crises and start getting nostalgic about some idealized reactionary view of history

      • rutger4

        That would be 650 years ago, not 500. And maybe yes. Maybe no. My ancestors did not die from plague however. If they had, I would not have existed. You seem to embrace this individualistic lifeexperiencecentric perspectiv that I am criticizing. Imho, it is one of the main strengths of nationalism, to turn against that me me me my perpsective mindset. What is life for? According to you?

        But you bring up an important problem. Because our civilization has defeated infant mortality. All of us that are alive today are to over 90% made of genetic material that would not have survived their first year. Our species has always had high infant mortality. What the effects will be from eliminating it we do not know. But they might be catastrophic and this fact might explain such things as rising levels of allergy.

        • Atlantian Nationalist

          Allergy is due to clean living standards

          But by all means, show how principled you are and blow your brains out to remove your inferior genes, but first unselfishly give all your money to Chad so that he can have a better life and fuck more girls and spread his seed. I’ll wait

          • rutger4

            Nothing goes together as well as arrogance and stupidity. Its a classic combination.

          • Atlantian Nationalist

            You mean like being arrogant about your race because of its achievements despite never accomplishing anything yourself?

          • rutger4

            What has race got to do with this? It is the same in all countries with centralized storytelling and good logistics systems. If anything im showing the advantages of existing clan cultures. Im showing the advantages with illiterate societies. And im showing the genetic strenght of peoples that did not eliminate infant mortality 150 years ago.
            Do you even read what you comment? Or are you just unlucky when you are thinking?

          • Atlantian Nationalist

            the idea that there was more evolutionary selective pressure before we had modern medicine or sanitation is not new. But like most people who advocate eugenics, you don’t seem to be too enthusiastic about putting yourself on the chopping block (or those you care about) first

            further, what is the point of technology but to surpass our natural limitations? Evolution is very slow, and often inefficient or even counter productive. It’s not “smart” – not like intelligence. Imagine a day where we can modify ourselves to have 500 IQ, or have AI assisting our brain functions so our consciousness can be dozens of places at once. I’ll take that over enjoying having a different style of dress than the next village, or the comfort that when I die of pneumonia or cancer I am improving the gene pool, thanks

          • rutger4

            I have never advocated eugenics. Your reading skills are truly sub par.
            Furthermore, “enjoying having a different style of dress than the next village” just shows our utter difference of perspective. It seems to you life is about enjoyment. Personal gratification.

          • Atlantian Nationalist

            And what is your life about, but enjoyment? its not like you spend your free time taking cold showers while flagellating your own back with a horse whip.. you read, you post your opinins online, you LARP about days gonebye and how modern life sucks. This gives you enjoyment, or you wouldn’t do it. Even the masochist is activating some pleasure/reward center in his brain. Just because you think you’re some moral superior of me doesn’t mean it makes the chemical reactions any different, bro

          • rutger4

            My last comment that was rather long got caught in the spam system, so you have to await that being cleared.

          • Atlantian Nationalist

            Just change it slightly and repost

          • rutger4

            Thanx for tip, ill try:

            You seem to think everything i write is a political program or a prescription for personal action. It is not. I very rarely talk about what should be. I merely talk about what is. And compare it to history.

            I do not think im morally superior to you. However, you seem to pay very little attention to the meaning of what you are commenting, at least in my case. I do not demand that anyone should read my musings or my opinion. Unless you start to comment them.

            Im not sure what happiness is. But sure, feelings of accomplishment, pride, greed, triumph, that sort of thing. Just as pain, frustration and fear. They are all part of our control system. To create behaviour that fullfil the purpuse of life.

            Setting up “happiness” as a goal for life seems very odd. Or at least to have a civilization that sets up happiness as a goal for its participants. Its like cutting out one part of the cybernetics system and trying to maximize that. Its like saying a car is made for pushing the gas peddle or twisting the steering wheel in one direction all the time. A more reasonable description of the purpuse of a car is to move from a to b. If happiness was the goal of life, wouldnt making enough money to get a bed in a ward and a lifetime supply of some drug be a viable lifechoice?

          • rutger4

            moving this to the big comment.

          • rutger4

            Unfortunately TRS deletes it no matter what i do. I guess this site only wants oneliners like the ones DavidFinklestein posts. Sad.Thanx for tip and banter thought.

          • Atlantian Nationalist

            Its not altright its disqus, their spam detection algorithms are mysterious. Something you’re trying to post is triggering it, after your account gets flagged somehow. Try making a new account, that fixes it usually

          • Rutger3

            Thanx for tip, ill try:

            You seem to think everything i write is a political program or a prescription for personal action. It is not. I very rarely talk about what should be. I merely talk about what is. And compare it to history. Its hard enough to figure out where we are and where we have been.

            I do not think im morally superior to you. However, you seem to pay very little attention to the meaning of what you are commenting, at least in my case. I do not demand that anyone should read my musings or my opinion. Unless you start to comment them. Maybe im obtuse. Maybe its that english is my second language.

            Im not sure what happiness is. But sure, feelings of accomplishment, pride, greed, triumph, that sort of thing. Just as pain, frustration and fear. They are all part of our control system. To create behaviour that fullfil the purpuse of life.

            Setting up “happiness” as a goal for life seems very odd. Or at least to have a civilization that sets up happiness as a goal for its participants. Its like cutting out one part of the cybernetics system and trying to maximize that. Its like saying a car is made for pushing the gas peddle or twisting the steering wheel in one direction all the time. A more reasonable description of the purpuse of a car is to move from a to b. If happiness was the goal of life, wouldnt making enough money to get a bed in a ward and a lifetime supply of some drug be a viable lifechoice?

            Edit:
            Take my argument that we are now composed of genetic material that would not have survived its first year pre 1850. Thats simply true. There is no inferred action implicit in that statement. Is it a problem? Probably. If infant mortality did not serve us evolution would not have made it thus.
            Should we do the socialdarwinist thing and evaluate each child born and kill those that are deemed unsatisfactory? Not in my opinion, i intensely dislike central administration of anything but the military.
            But at least, realizing this about infant mortality and ourselves should give us a new humility when we hear about fundamentalist christian groups that refuse medication? In some ways they know more about life than we who do not practice such do.

          • rutger4

            Btw, “morally superior”. Morality can only exist within a group. Our ability for morality and moral condemnation was formed by evolution so that groups could function more effectively internally and organize themselves better in order to better compete against other groups. Hence, universal morality is an oximoron. So in order for anyone of us two to be “morally superior” we have to be in the same group, imho.

          • Maktstrukturen

            Yes, think of all the netflix-shows and pornhub-clips we could watch simultaneously. THEN we would truly be fulfilled!

            Also: eugenics does not require anyone to put their head on the chopping block. All it requires is the implementation of eugenic incentives.

            To be against eugenics is akin to being against quality as a concept. Please answer this: if you made an oil painting, that you were really proud of, would you let me scribble all over it with my marker pen?

          • Maktstrukturen

            How do you know what he has or has not accomplished?

        • DavidFinklestein

          You are what they call a sophist.

    • Albionic American

      The logic of industrialization leads to the mass production of uniform consumer goods so that you get economies of scale and can make them cheap enough for the largest possible market. I don’t think anyone anticipated that this trend would result in making human minds across cultures more uniform and fungible, however.

    • DavidFinklestein

      That is a load of nonsense.

  • Ghetto Tarzan

    Is Richard going to stick with it?

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      Another Milo article incoming…

      • Hildi H

        Prepare for incumming: 3…. 2…. 1….

      • Bantz Henriksen

        As long as he’s shitting on Milo, so what? We should be unanimous in opposition to that faggot.

    • No, he will not. Like the print editions of Radix, like Radix itself, like the original Alt Right, etc, you can expect Spencer to lose interest and just wander away to his next vanity project.

  • Lucius Malfoy

    I enjoy this stuff. We need to create a counter Hollywood, and discussions like this are an important part of doing that.

  • Hildi H

    This comment isn’t about film but Children’s Literature. There was talk about reclaiming “The Rainbow”. Read “The Mixed-Up Chameleon” by Eric Carle. If you’re sentient and above 2nd grade reading level, I shouldn’t need to explain further. Also, consider Carle’s sad history involved in WWII and the Korean War. It doesn’t get much simpler than this.

    • Hildi H

      P.s.:
      Any updates about “The Forum”?

      • Bantz Henriksen

        TRS forum is now open, nigga

        • Hildi H

          Thought Altright.com was working on having one also.

  • A hymn to Hermes

    “Logos” comes from Heraclitus and he definitely didn’t mean “the word”. He was describing something akin to Dharma or laying out a doctrine of natural law. Associating the OT with Greek philosophy is an interpolation.

    • The Catholic intellectual E. Michael Jones is almost certainly where they are getting this from. He says “Logos” is the “Word” in John’s Gospel and he uses the concept as a way to universalize Christianity.

      • Bantz Henriksen

        Logos is in the NT; the Gospels are in Greek. The Church Fathers piggybacked on Hellenistic philosophy.

    • Bantz Henriksen

      Interestingly, Hermes was conceived as the Logos of Zeus.

      Heraclitus says one thunderbolt runs through all.

      The fire that runs through all being is the lightning of Zeus…

      War is all.

    • Mark Brahmin

      My point, which I will expand on in as-of-yet unpublished works, and not here, is that Logos, appearing in both a Christian and pre-Christian context, is ultimately a metaphor for the power of language or “the Word”. “The Word” and its careful use, as appears in the Bible for example, establishes order. This is evident through the Christian period where the Word of God or the Bible was, in a sense, the “order of the West”, through its own ingenious use of language and through the suppression of contrary language. If it comes up again in the podcast, I’ll treat it more thoroughly. It’s a difficult thing to bantz about on a comment board, however, particularly when no one is able to provide a coherent definition as to what they BELIEVE Logos to mean. Then suddenly Logos is “truth”, “God”, “something akin to Dharma or natural law”. All of these definitions are true but only as metaphor.

      • A hymn to Hermes

        Thanks for the reply. Looking forward to the piece. I believe Heraclitus called it “The Word” not as a metaphor however but as a way of giving his philosophy authority. It was an eternal truth and Heraclitus was just the messenger and ‘The Word’ being a poetic appellation for ‘the message’ or ‘the account’.

        Of this Word’s being forever do men prove to be uncomprehending, both before they hear and once they have heard it. For although all things happen according to this Word, they are like the unexperienced experiencing words and deeds such as I explain when I distinguish each thing according to its nature and show how it is. Other men are unaware of what they do when they are awake just as they are forgetful of what they do when they are asleep.

        So he addresses the ephemeral quality of this concept directly. Of Heraclitus’ unique contributions was the concept of Kosmos; a world order, as well as a focus on human affairs. His Ionian and Milesian predecessors were naturalists who sometimes dipped into cosmology as an extension of their description of the natural world but Heraclitus incorporates “human nature” into his cosmological model and makes human behaviors and the ordering of society a natural phenomena rather than a factor of cognizant divine justice. The divine pervades all things but Heraclitus divinity is more that of a Deist whose Zeus is a cosmic clockmaker. Which is obviously very different from early Christianity which is more about cognizant divine justice.

        My only real point is that the “Logos” of the Bible may not have much connective tissue with the origin of the term (outside of giving the stamp of authority by putting the writer in the role of messenger rather merely ‘author’ sharing his opinion) and people who are discussing its’ “True Meaning” are probably sourcing their views in the terms actual origin.

        • Mark Brahmin

          Appreciate the response. I’ll treat this as part of a larger piece so don’t look for a piece on “Logos” only! Thanks for listening.

  • Marathon-Youth

    As I see it
    American cinema is through the eyes of Jews. A quick summary how we see the world through Hollywood include (not in any order)
    -Our perception of Germany, the axis powers, Nazism and “the” Holocaust. It is completely warped.
    -Our perception of pagan cultures including the ancient Roman Empire (violent, slave driven, a rather depraved culture of bloody acts in the Colosseum with little interest of her various cultures, it music, arts, and the high refinement of her philosophies to faith, hardly any mention of the Hippodrome except in Ben-hur).

    That of ancient Egypt, Babylonia, Sumeria. Ancient Persia, Ancient Hinduism to Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism , ancient Buddhist, Confucius, Tao China, ancient Shinto, Samurai Buddhist Japan, ancient South East Asia. The world of Islam.

    -Our concept of 2 thousand years of the Catholic church, the Byzantine Empire. medieval & Renaissance Europe, The age of Colonial Empires to our modern world

    is seen through the eyes of a small but powerful group who tend to think and perceive the world in a tribalistic manner where the diverse world is alien to their way and that sense of “alien” cultures and faiths is reflected in their holy books and imparted to a World audience who then end up seeing each other through “Jewish eyes”

    In that sense the influence of the Jews upon 7 billion people is almost unconscious and by that, pervasive in its capacity to distort, prejudice and build unnatural lines of bias against each other.

  • Marathon-Youth

    Another aspect of Hollywood through the eyes of a Jew is that there is no movie that shows the bad side of Jews, none that I know of.
    There is no movie where the entire movie is about a particular bad deed of a Jew or done by a Jew or Jews. It is as if that is a forbidden subject
    I believe if such a movie was made it would be too clear to too many people. The effects of that could reach into the worst fears of the Jews.

    • Spike Lee made a film very critical of Jews in the jazz industry, I never saw it but I know he suffered future funding because of it.

      • Marathon-Youth

        Never heard of it but thanks for the information.