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What Berkeley Means

Richard Spencer discusses the protests and street battles that occured in Berkeley, California, on April 15, 2017; in particular, he sees a return of political violence that is less like that of the 1960s and more like that of the 1920s and ‘30s in Europe.

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Scott Schroeder
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As far as controlling space, the only space that matters is the space between people’s ears. Political reality only exists in human consciousness. That’s the battleground. Power comes from controlling public opinion.

Blackwing Resistance
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The Duck of Death
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Wish there was something I could do to support the movement here in WI

Cleombrotus
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What’s going on in Auburn, Ala.?

Sewray3000
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I could not tell who was on what side watching the videos. It looks like everyone is becoming alt-right.

Patrick Lindsey
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Nothing’s more fun than watching Alt-Right snowflakes get their asses kicked by Antifa patriots.

Bunker Santa 6
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Americas near future isn’t Mexico with a mongrelized mixture and a permanent white corrupt class atop; Its not disfunctional mixture third world trash hole Brazil; its not whites as an oppressed, unrepresented minority that slowly degrades like South Africa.

Our future looks like the Spanish Civil War. Traditionalists and Nationalists vs. a Communist/Anarchist Coalition. Get ready. It’s going to be brutal.

NotYouNotSure
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Hoping that this happens in Europe, where it is needed much more.

josh
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Maybe the alt-right should put anti-fa in a deodorant gas chamber.

It was just delousing in the 40s, and in the anti-fa case, deodorant.

Jack Burton
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I see some fools saying these protests are good family fun and they’re just people LARPing. No, Trump supporters are a target of Antifa hit-and-run violence. Wearing some head protection is advised. Kyle Chapman’s choice of a baseball helmet is a good one as it has ear protection as well.

Afrikanerhart
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100% agree. East German M56 helmets are still plentiful and cheap. They are lightweight and have a very comfortable and well padded liner. They also extend out from the sides of the head more than other designs do. So they would provide good protection from a downward blow from a stick/pole. Get one (or some other form of hardshell head protection), and some sort of surplus gas mask (you don’t need anything high grade as it’s just for protection against pepper spray and the like. Even an older mask with an expired filter will work) before you attend the next… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
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“East German M56 helmets are still plentiful and cheap.”

2 advantages in using DDR military equipment for our side.

1. Allows us to infiltrate Antifa, we look like Commies, not Alt Right

2. The DDR was the last great representation of Prussia.

Rascal
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Late to this thread, but I just wanted to say well done to anyone that was there. Extremely proud of you folks. Also want to send out a discord SOS. You know who you are!

Rustbelte
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See you in Auburn, Spencer. Remember you’re dealing with more than just limp-wristed antifa in that fucking den of iniquity.
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Geiger
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All f_ggots will burn.

Geiger
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So weird that antifa did not comment here before…

All of a sudden they are here.

Must be because they are “winning”.

Yuuup. Uh huh.

Geiger
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Censoring me in support of an an antifa troll?

Don’t look good.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Its not the mods here, I think its weird Disqus filters. Any post I Make about the Juice gets taken down.

Ike35
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Yeah I think you’re right. But the Juice works just fine.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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They’ve been writing the Juice in the Takimag comments for years.

Geiger
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In other newz. We got a real live commie fag here trying to debate.

#triggered

Geiger
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Yeah I figured.

Y the delete.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Just use different terms like Juice and it goes through….

Geiger
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The joke of the entire internet.

AntiFa-ggots.

https://youtu.be/ZdL3wMe6DuQ

Southernshitlord
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6yhHAC_cPn8

Here is a little gold for my comrades. Too bad I live out in the sticks and will never get the chance to punch one of these fools in the face like this guy.

Avi
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Hahaha! You are pathetic. You are not even close to winning. You are getting your asses kicked everywhere you go lol. No one can stand you except the inbred 6 toed cousin lovin’ swamp trolls. The rest of America hates you. Isn’t your sister lonely while you fascists our out stroking each other ?

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

Aviv your sister is you cousin and your dad is also your uncle. Tay Sachs!

Smash Islamophobia
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“inbred 6 toed cousin lovin’ swamp trolls.”

Demonstrating yet again, that most of the nonsense spewed by the Tribe is actually projection. Might want to consult your friendly Talmud on the advisability of uncle-niece marriage, or review the marriage traditions of the shtetl, hmm? Followed by joogling “hajnal line.” You might learn something (if you’re actually capable of learning, which is rather questionable on the evidence so far).

Jack Burton
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Consanguinity is highest in Africa and West Asia, moron. In West African Côte d’Ivoire incest is legal.

Smash Islamophobia
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Middle East, too. Homeland of the (ahem) Semitic peoples.

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Geiger
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1. You are a f_ggot. 2. Everybody is aware that the holocaust could be a hoax. 3. It is a hoax. 4. The internet loves us. 5. The internet hates you. 6. Muh six bazillion!!! 7. Inbred? Nope. Northeast white guy with four different european ancestral groups. 8. You are a j_w. 9. 9/11 created more against your side than for it. Whoops! 10. Both sisters are married to white men and made white babies. 11. See #9. 12. You stroke eachother. You are pro gay are you not? See #1. 13. You wasted your time making your comment. You… Read more »
Avi
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Lol the internet loves you?? That’s it? That’s the best you got? Yawn. Didn’t even read it just saw a bunch of words. You’re pathetic AND desperate. We can all smell it through your wife-beater t-shirt.

Geiger
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I win.

Avi
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I actually feel sorry enough for you to give it to you. I know trolling the internet and meeting fascists in rest stop bathrooms is all you have.

Smash Islamophobia
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“meeting fascists in rest stop bathrooms is all you have”

Hmm… what’s the prevalence of homosexuality among MOTs, vs. White Europeans? You’re not doing much to refute my point about tribal projection here.

You are, however, exhibiting a degree of vicious, intolerant homophobia that is completely unacceptable in the current year, however. Very sad to see this sort of intolerance still promoted so openly.

Geiger
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So you give me the win?

That was already obvious as you had no response to any of my points.

Try again f_ggot.

Avi
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Ya try again f_ggot. You’re so clever. Dude I didn’t even read your points. I stopped at ‘The internet loves us’ because I was laughing so hard.

Geiger
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BTW I am clever. You have no chance.

But try again.

F_ggot.

Avi
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Oh I gaurantee you’re an imbecile. I’d gladly.install cracked trivia to prove exactly.how stupid you are if.youre game.

Geiger
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How is the pot smoking and tv watching going?

Avi
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Great son. That’s what I do on the weekend when I don’t have to work. You know how some of us have jobs ? Well on our free time many of us relax instead of stroking ourselves 24/7 like you welfare rednecks. Most of.the people on welfare are fat sweaty rednecks.

Geiger
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Thx for admitting to your faggottry.

Geiger
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Case in point.

Canadien liberals laugh at you.

https://youtu.be/TJhgzR9uCBs

Avi
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Dude I’m just here to sh_t on you I don’t follow links or read your stupid talking points that Sean Hannity feeds your simple minds. I just sh_t on you because it’s fun.

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

Sean Hannity? Get back to the 1990s.

Smash Islamophobia
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“simple minds”

Yet who is pathetically unable to make a single rational, empirically-supported statement here? You’re not doing much for that “high verbal intelligence” canard, I’m afraid.

Geiger
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And you make us laugh! Keep trying whatever you are doing.

Geiger
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You must be new to this.

Here is how it works…

You talk then I talk…

And afterwards, everybody sees that YOU ARE CRAZY.

THX FOR PLAYING.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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All you do on the weekend is smoke weed and watch TV?

What a F’n loser you lazy Juice. Why not: Exercise, walk a dog, read a book, not do degenerate b.s.

Geiger
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It proudly admits so.

Avi
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I do all kinds of different sh_t boy. Why don’t you stop trying to bang your sister ? I’ll stop smoking weed if you can manage that.

Smash Islamophobia
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Proving my point about projection again? This is kind of comical, actually.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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You realize you Juice are more inbred than anyone else. Its why you all have hook noses and misshapen ears.

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Johnny Fash
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Johnny Fash
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None of us bang our sisters dude. If it wasn’t funny the first time, it’s not gonna be funny the 12th time either. Clearly you’ve burnt one to many holes in your brain. Leave the drugs alone man. The brain damage is showing.

Geiger
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What an admission.

Geiger
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Suuure.

Again. You use the word f_ggot.

I thought you loved that?

Plz explain the contradiction in your beliefs.

F_ggot.

Avi
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The only belief I have is that rednecks should be castrated so they can’t breed. My only.goal it to kill off the inbred backwoods TrumpTards.

Smash Islamophobia
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Still stuck on the projection, I see. Plus the stereotypical tribal fascination with torture, as well as other men’s sexual organs. You haven’t made an inappropriate fecal reference yet, though. I’m kind of disappointed. Are you SURE you’re a MOT? You’re probably just a schartze who converted, like these ones. A Black Hebrew Israelite.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Two-American-Jews-held-for-two-days-at-Ben-Gurion-denied-entry-to-Israel-408826

Johnny Fash
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Geiger
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Only belief is red neck hatred? Only goal is to kill trump supporters?

Whoa. Follow this guy! What a plan!!!

Avi
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Kill em all and let God sort em out. Isn’t that the redneck credo ?

Geiger
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No. You are going to die. And no one will miss you.

Avi
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Me Tarzan you Jane. You die. Me no like you. Monkey.

Geiger
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J_w.

Geiger
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So you support n_zi policies? Weird.

Geiger
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Currently wearing a long sleeve form fitting blue shirt. It accentuates my muscles.

Anyeay yeah. The cool internet is ours. You lefty f_ggots are made fun of by your own side.

Riopel
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What is the goal? White nations for White people. Fighting antifa won’t achieve that.

The institutions must be mocked, discredited, and demolished.

Jarod
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This is more about destroying the notion that White Nationalists only live on the internet and are afraid of sunlight.

Rascal
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Exactly.

illkhan
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If violence isn’t solving all of your problems then you aren’t using enough of it.

sane whiteguy
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Make no mistake I 100% support this street activism where our side battled the worst Antifa, Reds and Anti Whites on the worst Leftist turf in the USA – the University of California at Berkeley. Our side apparently won the fights. Great job. Now, I’m talking about the propaganda spin – the enemy will edit the photos and videos to make us look the worst. We should edit the photos and videos to make our side look the worst. No I don’t really care that this Antif fallen women fetish porn slut got knocked down when she through punches at… Read more »
European Particularist
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European Particularist

No it’s just 1980.

Antifa is a distraction, not a vanguard. The incident in Berkeley was a minor tussle. Antifa has been around for four decades in Europe. They did not shape politics. Neither did the skinheads who engaged them in street fights all these years.
And those political movements who were attacked and harassed by Antifa never united.

Spencer’s affliction for Hegelianism is evident. It looks like post-Syria Trump is the synthesis. The establishment embraced him, he embraced the establishment. approval ratings increased, disapproval decreased, things go back to normal.

Jarod
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Except demographics remain destiny. Even as things return to normal in Washington, Whites are still being displaced and replaced. The normies who think all is well now are just deluded. Eventually they are going to have to deal with reality.

European Particularist
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European Particularist
I’m sure you are aware of the slow boiling frog metaphor. The state we are in today is a disaster already. Countless predictions that our people would surely spontaneously rise up if this and that happens did not come to fruition, just like the marxist hope for a proletarian revolution did not materialize. The right has discovered two winning strategies in recent years. Populism (Trumpism, Le Pen, Breitbart, etc.) and memetic overton window shifting (alt-right pre-Trump). Let’s do what has proven to work. Street fighting, high-brow old-right theory and historical revisionism has been tried and showed no results. That was… Read more »
Rascal
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I completely agree with your post overall. However, handing out a few bloody noses gives street credit. Laugh at it all you want, but where I live that counts for something.

Albionic American
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I’m sure you are aware of the slow boiling frog metaphor.

I thought we had The Frog on our side now.

Jarod
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I agree focusing on ANTIFA is stupid but we should never run from a fight.

Geiger
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Antifa.

Their troubles just started.

They are done.

Afrikanerhart
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The far left needs to stop and think about their recent tendency toward political violence. If the situation goes far enough they will find themselves in a fight they lack the means to win. They are not the ones with the guns. In addition, very few of them have any training and or experience. If these clashes get really ugly, they will end up losing in a huge way.

Google “Greensboro 1979”. That says it all.

Hail victory.

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

It’s not hard to get guns and shoot at your own crowd to gain sympathy.

Like at the Maidan.

Albionic American
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I’d like to see the Antifa pull this crap here in Arizona, a state full of rednecks and with an open carry law.

Afrikanerhart
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They won’t. By definition, someone associated with an antifa organization is an idiot. But most still have at least some sense of self-preservation. I live in Texas and it’s a similar situtation. We have victim-friendly self defense laws and a strong gun culture. Thus, even in majority left places like Austin etc, there is almost no antifa activity. Like I said, stupid, but not suicidal.

Ike35
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They might wanna get off the drugs and get some exercise but I’d rather not give them any helpful advice.

Geiger
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Scott Schroeder
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The whole point of antifa is to provoke a violent reaction from their enemies (us) which they can record, carefully edit, and plaster all over the media. If they don’t get that reaction, then they look pretty dumb. They show the part where antifa is peacefully protesting, then they show the part where we are defending ourselves with force and they edit out the part where they attacked us. Then they paint us as violent hateful people thereby discrediting us and what we stand for. They can get away with this tactic because they own the media. Not too many… Read more »
Smash Islamophobia
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“The important thing is the media coverage. It’s pointless to engage in
street activism unless you have chants, talking points, and your own
independent recording which you post on the internet. if you have your
own recording, you can compare it to their edited version and discredit
THEM by showing what they left out.”

Even then, the problem is that they own the megaphone, and your voice is a comparative whisper in the back of the room. Still helps to counteract the Big Lie, though.

Ghetto Tarzan
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Antifa creates a poster advocating hitting women. Get a taste of their own medicine and they run to the closet authority and cry victim. Typical leftist behavior.

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

She’s Gender 25 Hiresute Spagetti Crotch.

She’s race 15 Trustafi-Wigger

Sid Garside
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The Right needs to maintain a standing “army” of defenders at these events. Never throw the first punch, but always be quick to defend when Antifa tries to cowardly stomp on someone when its 5 v 1 as I saw in some of the footage.

Regular citizens and patriots did the job the police SHOULD have done yesterday.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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chag kasher v’same’ach! But Screw Easter!

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/853642406222221312

Bill Matheson
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Guys like Levant affect outrage about these things so they can shield the tribe with a naxalt narrative.

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

Oh, please. Levant is Jewish, but he’s spent a great deal of time and money battling Canadian laws against “hate speech”, particularly with respect to Islam.

He’s done more for the West’s greater interests than virtually anyone on this site.

Bill Matheson
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Nonsense. The West would not have anything remotely approaching our present issues with Islam if not for (tribal) theory and activism. Let’s see him name the common denominator in the corruption of all our institutions. Let’s see him fight for free speech with regard to the 6 mm. Levant is playing both sides against the middle. It’s what they do.

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

There are plenty who advocate criminal charges against those who deny the veracity of the standard Holocaust narrative. To my knowledge, Levant is not one of them.

Bill Matheson
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It’s a battle he doesn’t need to fight in Canada, and couldn’t credibly take up in the U.S. But notice how he forced Gavin to bend the knee. Free speech ends where tribal agendas begin.

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

I don’t understand your first sentence. He lives in Canada, and believe me, White advocate need every speech ally they can get up there. Without a First Amendment, Canadians (and Europeans in general) are greatly hobbled WRT what they can say, compared to Americans (for now).

Bill Matheson
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I mean that nobody would dare question the 6mm in canada these days, so Levant is free to advocate for “free speech” there, knowing he will never have to discuss who is at the heart of the problem. He should be used to the extent he is useful, I’m just saying that he should not be trusted beyond that.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Levant’s lame trip to Israel last month was Pure Hasbara, but if he’s making a point like the Above tweet, I’m not going to blast him and sperg out with some “ZOG Agent” crap.

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

(deleted comment was not referring to the authors/content creators on the site, but whatever)

Yehudah Finkelstein
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I’m not pro civic nationalism and Levant has done some cringey Hasbara, but at this point in time, if these people will fight off the Antifa on the streets, I’m going to hold my fire. In 20s and 30s Germany, the various factions of the right made common cause to fight the Communists. Yesterday was a revealing moment. You have various figures of the Alt right (Spencer, Damigo, Enoch) and Alt lite (Gorilla Lawyer, Baked Alaska, Lauren Southern, Jack Posobiec) all taking it to the street and converting their online movements into real life activism. Then you had Shill Mitchell… Read more »
Bill Matheson
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Really, the alt-lite is just alt-righters trying to compromise with the zeitgeist. I take gorilla lawyer, etc to be on our side. Even Gavin knows. They won’t openly discuss certain things because they fear a backlash, but policy-wise they always seem to come down on the right side, which indicates to me that they know the score, or at least that their instincts are sound. I do think, however, that we need to distinguish between alt-liters and members of the tribe.

))) Depeche Europa (((
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))) Depeche Europa (((

But, of course……

Walter Oleg
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Did you guys see the picture of the antifa getting a wedgie? Do a search “antifa gets wedgie.”

It’s grand!!! LOLz. You’ll never stop laughing.

Southernshitlord
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Thank you for that it really made my day. I saw the wedgie giver in several videos and all the antifa people would act tough until he stepped up. Whoever that guy is he is a beast and I love him.

Walter Oleg
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That image has unlimited meme power potential.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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These Antifa Mouthbreathers even got BTFOd by wheelchair bound Vets.

https://twitter.com/kwilli1046/status/853596559224827905

Pioneer American
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If I ever get into one of those fights I’m going to prioritize dragging their masks off and photographing them.

mendells-selection
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Nathan Damigo for leader of the new Freikorps! WE need men like this. Position and salary!

Jack Burton
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I don’t fault Nathan for self-defense even against females in a violent confrontation, but I’m not going to glorify it.

As far as genuine warrior cred against Antifa, Kyle Chapman is the world heavyweight champ.

Evolver1
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That’s not the way to think anymore. Women demand to be treated the same as men and we now have women in military combat units. Suppose you’re in the military and you are attacked by an enemy woman. What do you do? Do you let her kill you because you have harmful (to you) ideas that you shouldn’t hurt a woman? The situation in these anti-White riots are the same thing. We need to fight back when attacked and it doesn’t matter if the attacker is male or female.

Jarod
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Dude loves a good fight. The AltRight needs more ex-military guys.

Ike35
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We have a fair amount of them now but more is always better.

unpaidpundit
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If you watch the video, the antifa woman puts her hands on Nathan Damigo before he slugs her.

ThomasER916
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I believe in Equal Rights…

and Lefts.

Southernshitlord
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She rolled right in for a taste of that good ole equality.

Evolver1
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It is sexist to complain when a man hits a woman, as women are now in military combat units and many seem to want to be given equal treatment in all ways. If attacked by a man, a man would usually strike back, so if a man is now attacked by a woman, what is the man supposed to do–just take it and not protect himself? The woman in the video went looking for trouble and she attacked the guy and he defended himself. She should be sued.

Celestial Time
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It’s actually not appropriate to even suggest that it was a woman being hit. Those creatures are the ones who believe gender specifics are the foundation of White Privilege. I saw two dudes throwing punches. That’s all.

D8532110
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Richard Spencer has a few very bad habits to which his attention must be called. For example, he thinks that it’s wise to describe some leftist collectivists as “liberal”. What is the origin of his lie if not the leftists’ own anxiety about the public recognizing the totalitarian agenda of all leftist politics, whatever the sect? Could it be true that Spencer is an unwitting mouthpiece of a lie concocted by leftists to inveigle the naïve?

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

It’s suboptimal, but the problem is that while the Right’s main beef is with the anti-White Left, this term sometimes seems out of place. For instance, SWPLs are presently aligned against White interests, but it can be awkward to refer to SWPLs chatting at Starbucks about income inequality and universal healthcare as “anti-White Leftists” (though that encapsulates the core problem of such people’s sociopolitical views).

D8532110
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So just call them illiberals. This should provoke a reaction typical of children. “But conservatives do ______ !”. Indeed they may, but it hardly follows that left wingers and right wingers are not basically different manifestations of secular communism.

Can them illiberals, and let them pound sand in frustration as they contemplate losing control of the language which they twisted into knots for the sake of mind control.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Liberal is a dirty word in America, I don’t know if you’re American or European, but liberal has nasty overtones in the USA, its like calling someone a Commie. Liberal in Europe means Centre-right, like the German Free Democrats, a party of professionals like architects and doctors who favor less government regulation.

D8532110
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If liberal is a dirty it’s because grasping cowards (Rush Limbaugh and fans) and useful parrots (Hannity, O’Reilly) have allowed leftists to describe theirselves without a proper regard for the truth and for the coherency of the language. Libernuttians, too, have made this mistake, hence “libertarian”. So the libertarian movement was born in cowardace and expediency, and it’s fitting that it has gone basically nowhere during the past 50 years.

Evolver1
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If you don’t have something nice to say about one of our own, just say nothing. You seem to come here with a chip on your shoulder just looking to fragment the good people. Why is that?

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Who cares about the term liberal? Liberalism came out of the Enlightenment. The Alt Right is an illiberal movement.

steve r.
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Juden trying to exterminate the white race through brown immigration. Fight or die white man! This is about our survival.

Avi
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I thought it was the Mexicans inbred.

10van
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you’re already..dead…lol..

Walter Oleg
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The best part was when the anti-Whites tried to put up a fence which was smashed down like a dam breaking with the force of patriotic waters flowing into downtown commie-land. You couldn’t have written a better script.

Bill Matheson
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Antifa escalates from here. Their objective was always to terrorize ideological opponents into silence and then run away unscathed. They have zero interest in fighting, punch for punch, for their beliefs, and they can’t cope, emotionally or from just a PR perspective, with this kind of defeat. This should be factored in in all future events. They are more ore less guaranteed a loss using the tactics they’ve used so far, so they will be upping the ante, trying to be extremely clever and devastating. Our side should be anticipating this. Sun Tzu: Best strategy is one that attacks the… Read more »
Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

They will use snipers. Maidan Square style.

Can Spencer make sure these areas have 360 surveillance? Maybe some gun radar too?

D8532110
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They will acquire firearms through black market connections. Then “Antifa” will start to behave even more like

The Red Army of the Ruhr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhr_Red_Army

and other communist militias of the past.

Ike35
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Are you suggesting that drugged out skinny smelly losers with no self-respect are bad at fighting?

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

They only need guns.

D8532110
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Maybe you should go back to your six pack and the big game on TV.

Ike35
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Oooosshhhh, Holy Shit Alright!! You really put me in my place. How do you know me so well, you must be psychic! And maybe you should go back to regaling us with how we’re all actually communists you dolt.

))) Depeche Europa (((
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))) Depeche Europa (((

Why the F are you here?

No one wants you here…….

Leave and don’t come back…..

Bill Matheson
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But excellent at escalating.

Ike35
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That is certainly case. I don’t think they can help themselves.

))) Depeche Europa (((
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))) Depeche Europa (((

Agreed……

They were the ones Macing, throwing Rocks/Bottles, setting of M-80’s…….

Soon, they’ll try even more Violent Tactics……

The Alt-Right/Alt-Lite Coalition needs to be prepared for actual Bullet Rounds in the Future…….

Micene
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That’s why you should all start to wear bulletproof jackets.

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))) Depeche Europa (((

‘You’?

Who are you?

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

Just general advice. These trust fund kids are not going to give up power so easy.

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))) Depeche Europa (((

https://twitter.com/AntifaVeterans

Nathan Damigo has definitely triggered Antifa…….

I’m sure he knows how to defend himself being an Ex-Combat Marine…….

We are literally at War against Antifa……

They wish Violence and Death upon us……

This is not a time to be fighting the Alt-Lite……

This is a time for Coalition Building…..

…..and fighting our REAL Enemies……….

Pioneer American
Guest

hey man …

glad to hear your thoughts ….

it’s like fucking poetry or something …

and it fills the page so that no-one will miss it …

even if they want to …

yeah ….

West coast and burnt toast
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West coast and burnt toast

Anti fascist veterans?comment image

SD888
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There are no Anti-Fascist veterans to fear. Nathan Damigo literally did nothing wrong. He defending himself against an attacker who had been seen in the presence of a group throwing M-80’s into a crowd of civilians, including the elderly. If she had the chance to throw an M-80 into his face, he could have been blinded, made deaf, or even outright killed. He protected himself and the elderly at the event. He needs a HERO AWARD.

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Nathan Damigo needs to take precautions……

Ike35
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Antifa got their asses kicked! Fukin Based!

Fred
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Libshits and cucks have led us to the situation of the Weimar Republic in the ’30s. Agree with Richard, the paradigm has changed forever and Berkeley is a starting point. No step back, only forward from here.

Laguna Beach Fogey
Guest

Some of us are on record as having predicted all of this.

This is so good to see. Finally.

Albionic American
Guest

Yeah, our elites enabled this through their policy of anarcho-tyranny. They didn’t anticipate that pissed off white men would organize and turn these tactics against their proxies in the streets.

Albionic American
Guest

Hollywood has propagandized us for a generation now about ass-kicking warrior women who can take punches just like men. I mean, if we keep seeing these characters in movies, women like them must exist in real life, right?

So wouldn’t it seem sexist and patriarchal to want to protect women like that silly Antifa girl from violence?

joe-boston
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The most noteworthy aspect of most of these riots over the last year or so is how White it all is.
This really IS a civil war between the “Good Whites” (i.e. race-traitor Whites) and the “Bad Whites” (i.e. racially conscious Whites).
One might think that at some point the antifa will stop, look around and wonder why the hell they are doing this. They might ask themselves why the Muds, for whom they claim to be fighting, are NOT involved in the fight.
Perhaps this realization may even turn some antifa into White Nationalists.
It will be interesting to see.

Smash Islamophobia
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A lot of (((whites))) involved on the twink ninja side.

Laguna Beach Fogey
Guest

Are we seeing the birth of a new Freikorps on the streets of Weimerica?

Robert Bruce
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Freikorps were more professional(all pissed off WW I vets) and had access to weapons, as they worked on the behest of the government, but we are getting there now aren’t we? Finally growing some balls. Just not at the Freikorp level just yet.

Southernshitlord
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Yea but aren’t a lot of these guys vets?

Robert Bruce
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Yes there are a lot of vets, but the Friekorps were really organized into actual battalions, and at first were acting on behest of the Weimar Rep to put down Red revolts all over Germany and even the Baltics. These guys had machine guns and even flame throwers. We need some vets to get together a form actual units, etc to get to Friekorp level. I agree with Richard ,though, we are getting there eventually.

Reynold Revival
Guest

It’s only a matter of time before antifa will use guns against the Right. We have to respond accordingly.

Pioneer American
Guest

A few threw big-ass rocks, and a couple carried knives. What I want to know is, what, really, is the police’s policy, and how have they not been sued into the ground? If they can be /relied on/ not to intervene, things could get UGLY.

Nergal
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The Courts ruled years ago that the police are not obligated to protect anyone. Warren v. District of Columbia. Here is some more information on this. http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

Pioneer American
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Yeah, but I’d assumed that’s when they’re stretched too thin or something. To me this is different, they’re not even trying. I hope the folks of Berkeley or the state of California make themselves felt with the police chief. To me it’s a really bad precedent, and unpardonable, if large eruptions of disorder are /allowed/. One-sided, or any kind of ‘shaped’ enforcement is just not civilization, not the rule of law. That’s sowing the wind.

Nergal
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Honestly, it is to the point that anyone to the right of Lenin cannon rely upon Berkeley PD. It truly seems to me that they were ordered not to interfere, probably by the mayor, or their chief. They should start arming themselves the same way the Bolsheviks in AntiFa do, because it is clear that the police are not interested in keeping the peace. It’s time for them to reap the whirlwind.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

It’s amazing how history repeats itself. How long before the Anti Fa kills a cop, as Stasi boss Erich Mielke did in the Weimar Republic.

Albionic American
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No, the Alt Right looks forward to the 2030’s, not back to the 1930’s.

le Père Mersenne
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To paraphrase something I once heard RS say, if we rewound the tape to 1930 and pressed play we’d wind up in the same mess we are in now.

SD888
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Because the same ((people)) are trying to destroy Whites in their own nations.

Albionic American
Guest

We have to take “the future” away from the progressive utopians (PU’s, because a lot of them stink, from what I’ve heard), and make it our own again. They know on some level that they have based their lives on lies, fantasies and myths that they can no longer sustain, and their increasing desperation shows that.

Fred
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I agree. Our primary grievance is the substantial demographic change and the government’s criminal policy of displacement White people with the Third-World population. Lucky Germans in Weimar had nothing of this problem. So, we must look forward to 2030 to reverse demographic changes in the country or, worst comes, strive for a separate White ethnostate. We must not repeat the mistake of White South Africans in the ’90s.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

We may have to start a legal defense fund for Nathan Damigo.

Joseph Curwen
Guest

Yes, indeed. That fucking bitch is going to sue him like right now.

Krafty Wurker
Guest

Sue him for what? Self defense. Have you seen the full video?

Joseph Curwen
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Of course it was self defense, but we are living in an upside world.

Anthony Watterman
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no she is fleeing the country

Joseph Curwen
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Godspeed!!

I would suggest her Sweden, where she can be enriched to death by vibrant men.

Ike35
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She’ll prolly go to Canada, same thing really.

Johnny Fash
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Kate Hikes
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Excellent. I laughed at loud, but daren’t explain why to the rest of the staff room.

Ike35
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LOL! That’s brilliant! Love it.

Johnny Fash
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She wanted gender equality, she got it. No sympathy.

Ike35
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It was merely a vulgar display of equality. Have you seen that picture? It’s Nathan and her on the cover of the Pantera album, lol.

Johnny Fash
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Lol yeah, I saw it on /pol/ this morning. Top Kek!

rougy
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Of course. Violence is the means and the end for the Alt-Right. Their freedom of speech line is just an excuse for what they really want, which is to exert violence as they see fit.

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

Projection. The reaction of the right to 60 years of shakedown is just.

mendells-selection
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flagged you fag

Trench_Raider
Guest

Begone, troll
You’re not welcome here, child.

West coast and burnt toast
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West coast and burnt toast

Pro tip: don’t make the people who own guns (plural) and know how to use them angry when your side is scared of gunscomment image

rougy
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We know that most of you can’t think rationally which is why you rely on your guns.

🇷🇺West Coast and Burnt Toast🇸🇾
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🇷🇺West Coast and Burnt Toast🇸🇾

8=========D

Geiger
Guest

Here is rational thought…

Your entire belief system is broadcasted and reinforced on TV 24/7.

Academia the same.

The only group that is allowed to be attacked without punishment is European Whites.

You think White Fascists are in charge. Whoa.

Mike549
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The “antifa” are the ultimate expression of conformity in today’s society.

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Uh……NO…….

Violence was brought to us…….

Johnny Fash
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I’ve been hearing you guys making that argument a lot over the past two days and it is complete and utter bullshit. When you show up to violently shut down Anti-War Peace Rallies and Free Speech Rallies you deserve to get your heads smashed in. If you didn’t show up to ‘shut down by any means necassary’ we would never have to respond with violence, now would we? We defend ourselves and our rights, you instigate, that is the difference.

rougy
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You went there with violence first and foremost on your mind. You resort to violence because your arguments are unsound, based on the ignorance born of racism and fear.

Smash Islamophobia
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Muh feelz! kek

Ike35
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LOL! Yeaahhh that’s it.

Johnny Fash
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The opposite is true. Violence has been escalating for awhile now and that is because it is expected that Antifa will show up and start assaulting people whom they disagree with. At the Milo event, people showed up to listen to someone they like speak, and got pepper sprayed, beaten with sticks, verbally abused and so on… None of those people were Fascists by the way. And none of them showed up to fight. At the event last month a small minority of attendees showed up to protect the women and elderly that Antifa feels justified in assaulting. Most of… Read more »
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Great Post…..

rougy
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Who were your featured speakers yesterday? Did you erect a stage or a podium from which they could speak?

Johnny Fash
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rougy
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Yeah, a bunch of attention whores and instigators. I wonder what they were going to talk about?

CharismatiCurmudgeon
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Seems like you’re the attention whore and instigator.

Smash Islamophobia
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Excellent point. Those who give speeches (and those who listen to them) are “instigators,” of course, while foul-smelling, effeminate communists who attack those speakers (and listeners) are shining examples of democracy in action. Of course.

rougy
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What do you think those speakers were going to talk about? What was on their agenda?

Southernshitlord
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Why does antifa always show up with masks?

Smash Islamophobia
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Muh “Speech is violence when it’s things the other side says! But violence is peaceful demonstrations when we do it!” lol

Merick Kaner
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See you around, COMMIE.

Ike35
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Instigators?! That’s rich. I’m guessing self-reflection is not a big thing with you. Reality prolly isn’t either.

Johnny Fash
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Probably how the Authoritarian Left is turning America into a sewer.

rougy
Guest

Well, please continue. Who is the Authoritarian Left?

Johnny Fash
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SJW’s, Antifa, BLM etc. The New Left…

rougy
Guest

I guess “SJW” is “social justice warrior.” Kind of vague. Antifa are the people like me, the Allies.

BLM, Black Lives Matter, a group tired of seeing unarmed black people gunned down or brutalized by police.

And I’m not familiar with the “New Left” I’m afraid.

I do know that your side, the fascists, generally preach a policy of racism, misogyny, and similar platforms designed to pander to bigots. They tend to want to create an America that serves their needs over that of all others.

Smash Islamophobia
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“And I’m not familiar with the “New Left” I’m afraid.”

The New Left is focused almost exclusively on promoting the poz and on anti-White hatred, to the near-total exclusion of their earlier pretense of concern for the working man. It’s not like it’s a secret, or an esoteric term. Perhaps you’ve heard of this great new invention called a “search engine?”

G-Mayne
Guest

I think you need to download a simple pamphlet called “The Color of Crime”. Or learn how to google FBI crime stats.

Fred
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While it looks like the street-wise Weimar battle, there is nothing common between us and fascists of any kinds. Our major grievance and purpose is to reverse detrimental and degenerating demographic changes in America. Fascists and communists have had ideological differences of how to run countries, we are concerned about our survival and as a nation – White Americans. Antifa is a loose coalition of misfits put together on foreign money with one single task on hand: to put down a growing and secular nationalist movement in America. Once Soros is done financing your group of misfits, your are done… Read more »
Celestial Time
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Blah, blah, blah… “Racist!” Blah, blah, blah… “Fascist!” Blah, blah, blah… “________!”

How does it feel knowing that all of that self-righteous indignation is being turned around on you and now all of those scary buzzwords that kept you safe and made you feel all warm and fuzzy inside won’t keep you from having to swallow your own teeth when you go around attacking innocent people?

Smash Islamophobia
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“BLM, Black Lives Matter,”

A terrorist group responsible for multiple deaths. Which is why communists like you support them, of course.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Blacks wouldn’t be shot by police if they didn’t commit so many crimes. Funny how these issues with the Police only exist in black communities. Even Hispanics don’t have a crime rate approaching that of the blacks. “the fascists, generally preach a policy of racism, misogyny, and similar platforms designed to pander to bigots. They tend to want to create an America that serves their needs over that of all others.” How many leftist tropes can you fit in one sentence? But yes, we do want to create an American white ethno state that serves white interests. Just like how… Read more »
rougy
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When you openly admit that you want to create a white-only country, yet deny that you’re racists, something is obviously not working well in your brain.

Ike35
Guest

Since when have we ever denied that we’re racist? Not any alt-right figure I know of cares about being called that. Of course we’re racist, just like everybody else, including you. I’m guessing if you saw a pack of black guys hanging out on the corner, you’d cross to the other side of the street.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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So are Hebrews racist for having Israel? Japanese racist for having Japan? Black Africans racist for having African nations?

rougy
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Yes.

Kumiko Oumae
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See, this is the thing. The Americans don’t really have the right to tell Japan to stop propagating the mixture of Nihonjinron ideology and Kokusaika discourse.

Japan is basically a place for Japanese (and Zainichi Koreans too, who also belong) to live. Others may be admitted, but only the Japanese state can decide that.

To have any White person try to redefine the identity of the country by force from the outside would be a form of neocolonial imposition which should not be tolerated.

rougy
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No, the thing is that racism is racism, even if the Japanese do it.

Smash Islamophobia
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Anyone else that you feel this vitriolic, uncontrollable rage and hatred towards? Or just Whites and Japanese?

Kumiko Oumae
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Which, if you think about it, isn’t really a bad thing at all, given that apparently it’s the only way for Japanese to defend itself from you.

rougy
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I’m not attacking Japan, toots. And I don’t really want to dredge up the past, but of all the Asian countries, yours has a particularly ugly history of treating non-Japanese people as if they were animals, or worse.

Racism is a sign of stupidity, and one of the things I liked the most about Japan and its people is that most of them weren’t stupid.

Clytemnestra
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The Japanese have a right to decide who can enter their indigenous homeland of Japan. No foreigner has the right to tell them otherwise. You didn’t build it, you taxes don’t maintain it, so mind your own business. The Japanese in the past haven’t treated their conquered neighbors any different than anyone else. Most importantly, the Japanese in the past are dead and are neither alive to defend their actions or pay for their “sins.” Even if the Japanese of a few generations ago were all around douchebags, their descendants should not be required to pay for their “sins,” by… Read more »
rougy
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No, I’m not Japanese, but let’s not pretend it’s not racism. Ultimately, it will be their undoing. Stasis in modern times is a death sentence. Diversity truly is strength. All progress comes from environments of diversity.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

So why aren’t you agitating against the South African ANC or the Israeli Likud party as well, why all this focus on the American Alt Right, which has ZERO power?

rougy
Guest

I’m not South African or Israeli, but their racist policies are every bit as nauseating as America’s Alt-Right.

Geiger
Guest

We should invade Japan unless they take in Africans. Right?

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Define this “racism” that you believe in so fervently and mindlessly.

Johnny Fash
Guest

“Allies” sounds about right. This isn’t the first time Global Capitalists and Commies have locked arms to suppress Nationalism, but this time you will lose.

rougy
Guest

What you call “Nationalism” is better described as “White Nationalism” isn’t it?

Ike35
Guest

Yup.

Johnny Fash
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Depends. In the European context I don’t advocate “White Nationalism.” Italy for Italians, Britain for the British, Norway for Norwegians, Poland for the Polish etc. I’m not a pan-Europeanist. If Europe get’s flooded by baboons my efforts will be spent securing an ethno-state for Southern Europeans specifically in North America. I’m Italian and we don’t have much in common with Anglos or Slavs. I don’t want to see Italian culture die, and I’m not interested in all whites being molded into one entity defined by nothing but their shared whiteness. Many Northern, Western and Eastern Europeans don’t even consider Italians,… Read more »
Smash Islamophobia
Guest
“Many Northern, Western and Eastern Europeans don’t even consider Italians, Greeks, Spaniards or Portuguese people white.” Possibly, but that’s also a common “divide and conquer” meme as well. On a medium where many are anonymous, it’s easy to stir up trouble that way. Who came up with the ridiculous “The Irish weren’t considered White when they first came to America” idea, again? Why, good ol’ (((Noel Ignatiev))), of “abolish the white race by any means necessary” fame. https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Became-White-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415963095 I tend to take any sh!t-stirring, “You must hate those other goyim over there” statements on the interwebz with more than a… Read more »
Ike35
Guest

For what it’s worth, N. Italians certainly are white but I also consider S. Italians white as well. I’ve always considered Sicilians and Greeks to be the outermost points of white european-ness, they are in but any groups outside of them are not. When it comes to genetic kinship a Sicilian is still more akin to other whites by far.

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Do you oppose Black Nationalism for African countries? Yellow Nationalism for China? Or is is only White people who are the target of your virulent, toxic hatred?

Merick Kaner
Guest

Who Cares? You should come to Auburn.

rougy
Guest

Ahh, passive threats from the dickless fascists, how original.

Bill Matheson
Guest

Useful idiots and Jewish ringleaders.
returnofkings.com/62716/the-damaging-effects-of-jewish-intellectualism-and-activism-on-western-culture

rougy
Guest

Are you pro-union, Bill, or anti-union?

Bill Matheson
Guest

Depends on context.

rougy
Guest

Okay, say the fast food workers of America formed a union. Would you support that?

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

If we stopped importing large numbers of non-Whites from the Third World, what would happen to wages in the fast food industry, hhm? Why do you hate American workers so much? Why do you conspire with the evil capitalists to lower their wages? Very sad.

rougy
Guest

You honest to god have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.

Try reading more, much more. You owe it to yourself, and you owe it to us.

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Your pathetic failure to even attempt a refutation of this simple concept speaks for itself.

Ike35
Guest

We don’t owe you shit, piss off.

Bill Matheson
Guest

Only to watch the industry fail and/or the morons end up jobless.

rougy
Guest

Okay, so you’d prefer all fast food people work for a minimum wage that does not even provide a living.

A few posts back, you said that your side was for the working class, and yet, you just opposed an effort that would have benefited millions of working class people.

Southernshitlord
Guest

Working class to me doesn’t mean some burger flipper with zero ambition. Working class people are plumbers, electricians, maybe a good steak cooker. Burger flippers should mean teenagers.

rougy
Guest

Working class is everybody who cashes a paycheck in order to survive, and that includes the vast majority of us, white, black, or whatever.

About 43% of all American households are living paycheck to paycheck, which means if they miss one month of work, they’re out on the street.

The solidarity of the working class, from minimum wage up to salaried management, is the thing we need most.

Southernshitlord
Guest
As a small business owner I completely disagree. I have minimum wage employees and they are not worth what I am paying them now. They come/go/quit/do drugs/show up late/don’t show up on the job have very low skill and no ambition to learn new skill. That isn’t the working class my man that is the derelict class. I am the working class I work six days a week long days and my little business barely makes me $5k/month. 25% of that income is sucked up for health insurance for my little family. Tell me that isn’t also paying for the… Read more »
rougy
Guest

You are hopelessly misguided.

You’re the kind of conservative who blames the poorest and the weakest among us, yet you can’t seem to understand that our system is run by the extremely rich and every single year it makes them even richer.

The little people aren’t the ones who make your life suck.

It’s the people who control a system where 8 people have as much money as half the world combined.

Southernshitlord
Guest
Here would be my question for you: how many non white countries would you want to live in? How much of Asia, Africa, Middle East, Mexico, or South America would you live in? I assume the answer is very few if any. For example all the liberals who were going to move out of the country if trump won were all going to Canada, why not mexico? Since they aren’t racist… so if you are still with me wouldn’t you worry about what our country is going to be like once no longer majority white? That is why we are… Read more »
rougy
Guest

You’re going down the wrong road the second you start viewing the world in racial terms.

I’ll tell you what I don’t want to live in: I don’t want to live in a country so homogeneous that any variation of skin tone is perceived as an existential threat.

You need to understand this: racism is not a sign of intelligence. Quite the opposite.

Southernshitlord
Guest

If I am going down the wrong road, tell me why? Don’t just call me stupid because you say I’m “racist”. Convince that I am stupid. Hey you may be right! I didn’t get my ideas because that is what I was taught, or learned on tv, that all men are equal. My views were determined during real life.

rougy
Guest

Prisons are the most racist environments on earth. Let’s not pretend that prisons are filled with good-hearted, intelligent, talented people.

Southernshitlord
Guest

Yea because everybody is trying not to get ass raped

Southernshitlord
Guest

Oh is that what they taught you in school? That racists are stupid!

I know it may make you uncomfortable but I answered your question will you answer mine?

rougy
Guest

What question was that? The one about moving away? Honestly, I’d rather live in northern Europe since I’m a big, blond, “Aryan” looking guy, but I could see myself living in Korea, or even Katmandu.

Racists are stupid. The sooner you understand that, the better.

Evolver1
Guest
You wrote that you are a “[B]ig blond,’Aryan’ looking guy.” What do your 23 and me results show? Your thinking about the science of genetics seems so twisted that one has to wonder if you are really Aryan (defined to mean a non-Jewish White person of European descent no matter where he or she was born or lives). And, I’m assuming arguendo, for the moment, that you really are White (aka Aryan), so I wonder how you came to dislike yourself and your kind so much that you seem to implicitly side with the White haters who want Whites to… Read more »
rougy
Guest

You misstated my views, and I’m tired of talking to you.

You guys on the Alt-Right are tragically fucked up people. It makes me mad, but the more I talk to you, it genuinely makes me feel sad. You’ve painted yourselves into a corner from which you’ll never escape.

Southernshitlord
Guest

So you don’t believe racial demographics have anything to do with quality of life of a country?

I’m kind of disappointed you jumped to the “you are unintelligent” argument so quickly. I chose to talk with you because i thought you had more interesting things to say…

rougy
Guest

No. The best countries and cities tend to be very diverse on many levels, race being just one.

I’m sorry you’re disappointed, but there’s just no other way to describe what racism is. It suggests a lack of understanding and depth on the most primitive level.

Evolver1
Guest

Please give us some real examples of the countries and cities that you think are best.

Southernshitlord
Guest

All you have is rhetoric.

rougy
Guest

And a lot of experience living in small towns that are filled with 90% white, conservative, Christians who are butt stupid and boring as hell.

Southernshitlord
Guest

First world problems bro

Southernshitlord
Guest

You keep putting words in my mouth I never said I wasn’t racist. Name some cities that are so great because they are “divers”.

rougy
Guest

Boulder, San Francisco, New York, Rome, Berlin, London, Madrid.

All the cool places are multi-cultural.

Southernshitlord
Guest

Naming a bunch of white cities to support you argument?? Can I just say I told you so? Let the demographics swing to white minority and see if it is on your list then.

Southernshitlord
Guest

Interesting that every place you mentioned is majority white. Go to some non white places and if you make it out alive (for many places I mean that literally) let’s talk again.

Bill Matheson
Guest

Low wages are not living wages due to Jewish banking relentlessly devaluing currency, plus mass importation of imbeciles. Lots of <90 IQ Latinos making careers of what in past eras were strictly entry-level jobs. Stabilize money systems and demographics and all of this will be a nonissue.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Jeff Bezos got his first job at a McD’s and learned a lot about entrepreneurship there. Would McD’s even hire a white teenager today?

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

You don’t understand basic economics. People buy fast food because its cheap. If you pay fast food workers $15/hour, fast food is no longer cheap and people will just eat at better restaurants. The fast food restaurants will lose their comparative advantage of cheap food without cheap labor and go out of business.

rougy
Guest

I do understand economics. Fast food workers in other countries like Australia and Denmark, and others, make around $15 an hour, and the cost of food is comparable to that here in the states.

What happens is the shareholders and upper-management is forced to take smaller cuts of the profits.

You can’t say that you’re “pro worker” and yet oppose people who want to make a living wage.

Kumiko Oumae
Guest

Australia’s migrant situation by the way is a special kind of hell and should never be used by any side of the debate to illustrate anything. It’s just bad.

Natalie Tran explained this a while ago in as little as 1 minute and 57 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3CTlovSK8

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

This is is liberal hand wringing and an appeal to pity.

Sending third world invaders to Mud huts on Nauru is a deterrent that works. America should do the same and send illegal aliens to crude camps in Micronesia.

Also, its jarring to hear a Vietnamese Saigon Susie speak with an Oz accent.

Kumiko Oumae
Guest
If you like that accent, my accent is almost as fantastic. It’s impossible to get anywhere without English, it’ll probably end up being the international language forever now. Third World Regarding the concept of ‘Third World invaders’, I don’t know how that terminology came into existence. Most of the world is Third World, broadly speaking it maps to basically ‘every country that is not in the OECD’ right now. It would be very inaccurate to brand all Third World countries with the brush that is being used quite rightly to paint the horrendous behaviour that has been exhibited by Arabs… Read more »
Clytemnestra
Guest

Please explain how Aussies are being “cruel” to people who are used to living in primitive conditions by providing them with accommodations that they are already used to.

This young lady is carrying on like the Australian taxpayer should be required to create a first class, first world resort to what are basically economic migrants posing as refugees.

How is giving these people better accommodations (either in or outside of Australia) going to discourage them from migrating to Australia. Defeats the purpose, don’t you think?

Kumiko Oumae
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I already explained it. The taxpayer is not required to create “a first class, first world resort”. Rather, the request is that the taxpayer should ask the Australian government to address the fact that all kinds of abuse — including systematic child sexual abuse by the Nauruan officials — are occurring at the camp. I sincerely do not understand why some people are finding that to be a big ask. “Can we have some basic standards here?”, is not really a big demand. The facility is guarded by a sizeable number of Australian and New Zealand ex-servicemen and ex-servicewomen, who… Read more »
Clytemnestra
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Call me a cynic, but I don’t think the average Aussie would be upset enough to let all this cheap labor in to take the food of of their own children’s tables. They’d more likely push for those boats to be turned around and escorted right back to their points of origin rather than putting them on a nearby island. You see, the elites live in an echo chamber. Much like the American bicoastal elite who see the rest of the states as nothing more than flyover country, I think you will find that the Australian elite aren’t interested in… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
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In American parlance, third world means poor. Chile is not a poor nation and millions don’t try to leave Chile. You are arguing over semantics. All third world means is a poor, crappy country.

I have not heard of any atrocities or inhumane treatment on Nauru. The conditions aren’t “nice,” but it is supposed to be a deterrent to prevent economic migrants from swamping Australia. Try to go to Oz, and wind up on Nauru.

These appeals to pity from liberals are now falling on deaf ears.

https://twitter.com/Kon__K/status/852840866980929536

Kumiko Oumae
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I don’t know why you haven’t heard of the abuses, given that apparently the whole of Australia seems to be aware of them and social media won’t stop talking about them. There is a popular hashtag that people are now using called ‘#BringThemHere’, which is actually the precise kind of frantic and potentially disastrous response that should have been avoided. Even the tweet you’ve posted from Kon Karapanagiotidis is part of that, it’s just that you’ve misread what that person meant. When Australians say ‘evacuation for Manus’, what they actually mean is that the evacuation of all refugees to Australia… Read more »
Kumiko Oumae
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To be fair, Denmark has three things going for it which have made that situation possible: 1. Mercifully low native birthrate, so there aren’t too many people to begin with. 2. Low migration rate, so the reserve pool of labour is pretty small for that kind of job — most of Denmark’s migration is high skilled. 3. Denmark actually sincerely fulfilled the ERM and ERM-II prerequisites, before joining the Krona to the ERM, and those prerequisites included the creation of tripartite institutional frameworks in which capital and labour could engage in social bargaining which is overseen by the state. The… Read more »
Clytemnestra
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Sounds like Denmark is the Disingenous White Liberal of Europe.

American DWLs don’t have segregated neighborhoods. (Though they are gated with great security). They don’t have restaurants which refuse service to any so-called people of color. But both the neighborhoods and the restaurants are so expensive that they price out undesirables of all colors. Problem solved.

Denmark doesn’t keep migrants out as long as they are high-skilled. That pretty much excludes not only low-skilled Whites, but people from all over the third world. But no one can accuse the Danish of being racist.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Australia and Denmark do not have open borders like America. Australia throws illegal aliens into crude huts on the island of Nauru. Your example fails for that reason. I’m not a disciple of his, but Milton Friedman was correct when he stated that you have to choose between a welfare state and open borders. I would choose the welfare state option and close the borders, what would you choose?

Kumiko Oumae
Guest

Exactly.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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If fast food workers unionized and demanded $15 an hour, then the fast food industry would quickly automate almost all their labor inputs, rendering Jose the illegal burger flipper irrelevant.

Kumiko Oumae
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Yes. But isn’t that all the more reason to support that policy? Optimal clearing of the labour market and all.

Smash Islamophobia
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Closing the border would be a more rational, less intrusive means of achieving the same result.

Kumiko Oumae
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True, but that still wouldn’t retroactively address the fact that there are still lots of people already in that country who are wasting time serving food when a machine could just as well do it.

They would then be free to either migrate elsewhere if they are not from the country, or retrain for something else.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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The problem with just rushing into automation is that it can destroy whole sectors of the labor market and easily end up hurting white workers too. Automation needs to be rolled out every time so people can move into different careers.

Kumiko Oumae
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Well, correct me if I’m wrong, but if the minimum wage is increased for them gradually, all it means is that once they pass the threshold they’ll all be made redundant anyway. So it seems like it’s either make them all instantly redundant now, or let it keep going for longer and make them all instantly redundant later. Either way, they’ll be suddenly made redundant as soon as the wage level gets high enough to warrant it, so why not just do it sooner rather than later? It’s easier to fire and retrain a bunch of 20 year olds, than… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
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This is a difficult topic, but the fact is that automation will cause the most economic stress and dislocation since the Industrial Revolution. Schumpeter calls this Creative Destruction, but it was out such ashes that the Proles flocked to Marxism in the fin de siecle period. We must offer SOMETHING to the white working class, its why Trump won after all.

Smash Islamophobia
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An intolerable answer for a leftist. Don’t you know that the only valid approach is to ignore history, tradition, and what works empirically, in favor of designing an unachievable utopia by autistically reasoning from first principles? Then all you have to do is signal your allegiance to that particular utopian model, and voila! You’re a “good,” “educated” person. Objective reality is completely irrelevant here.

Ike35
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Fantastic summation!

Bill Matheson
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Precisely. Their whole scheme, since at least Marx, is cute syllogisms with no context. It all works on paper, falls apart when you factor in human nature, group differences. Applies to libertarianism too.

Smash Islamophobia
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The twink ninja cries out even as he strikes you. Kek.

rougy
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You modern American fascists have to be the most mixed-up people on earth.

Uhuh
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Nah, I would say the most mixed-up people on earth are the young white males with a uselesss $100k liberal arts degree who confuse their sheltered upbringing and “education” with life experience and waste their youth fighting battles for people that will not only never fight for them but actively work against them.

rougy
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No. Educated people can see that race is the most base of distractions. The most racist places on earth exist in prison systems, in places filled with stupid people who don’t understand right from wrong. Since they’re not really smart enough to deal with the real world, they have to break it down into its most obvious components, one of which is race. A part of me hates the Alt-Right, but after talking with some of you here today, I can see that most of you are genuinely tragic figures who are almost hopelessly lost and confused. Something’s wrong. You… Read more »
Evolver1
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You wrote: “No. Educated people can see that race is the most base of distractions.” Actually, educated people know that race (or more precisely the unique DNA code that makes a race different from other races) is the most important thing about humans who like themselves and their kind and want to continue to exist as the unique people they are. If you lose your race by blending in with other races via miscegenation, you–as represented by your now mixed-race descendents–are simply no longer yourself. If you value yourself and those like you, you want to remain as you are–unique… Read more »
rougy
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That makes no sense whatsoever. You and I both have genes that stretch back to South Africa millions of years ago. Race is not the most important thing about humans.

Race is simply the most obvious thing that differentiates one group of people from another, and that is why it is the one thing upon which simple minds focus.

Smash Islamophobia
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Exactly. You and I have genes that stretch much farther back than that, back to the days when our forefathers first crawled up onto land. Fish are our brothers, you hate-filled, intolerant speciesist.

Evolver1
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Race is to man as breed is to dog as variety is to rose.

Each of these divisions are natural moves by nature towards creating new species that are better adapted for various niches. Or in simpler terms, they are the way nature evolves higher forms of organisms and I define higher forms here as organisms with higher consciousness.

Race is not something to be denied.

G-Mayne
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If race is not the most important thing about humans, explain all of Africa, Detroit, Haiti, etc. Explain why North Korea, one of the poorest nations under one of the most oppressive regimes, can design nuclear ICBMs but no country in Africa can (apart from South Africa, which destroyed all its nukes before handover to the ANC, another thing you’ll have to explain). Why aren’t we afraid of a Nigerian nuclear program? Explain why, after the shackles of Communism were lifted, China took off like a rocket, whereas Africa is in the same mire it was during the colonial period.… Read more »
Uhuh
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First of all, commenting here does not identify me as “alt-right”
Second, that is exactly how I feel about many of the antifa types… they are hopelessly lost and confused for the very reason you mentioned: the assumption that “education” and right think can somehow separate us from our biology. The sad fact is that the majority of human kind has not had the benefit of a western education and does not think as you do and they never will. An “egalitarian” world will require subjugation and extermination…. just as Mao, Stalin, Castro, et. al.

rougy
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White, black, brown, Asian, whatever – we are at least 99% identical on the biological level. The problems we face are a lot less about race than they are about clashing cultural norms, and probably the most pressing of those clashes is currently between the extremely rich and everybody else.

When you make it all about race, you are misunderstanding the heart of the problem.

Smash Islamophobia
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“we are at least 99% identical on the biological level.” A typical sociology/ cultural anthropology/ gender studies type of “muh SCIENCE!” slogan. You don’t even understand what that number means, do you? That’s at the SNP level, not the gene level. Chimpanzees are 98% “identical” with us, by that measure. Clearly, this social construct of chimpanzeeism as some sort of valid category is just due to hatred and intolerance, and the poor chimps are being held back in education, employment, and interspecies dating by these bigoted troglodytes who just don’t know any better. Better get out there and agitate to… Read more »
Uhuh
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Perhaps I need to go back and look at the thread, but I have most definitely NOT made it “all about race”. It is you that honed in on the word “white” in the phrase “white male”. The human genome codes far more than race. Among other things, our genome codes sex, it codes capabilities (both physical and mental), and it can even code pathology. That being said, until recently multiple racial phenotypes developed largely indepentant of each other, with the traits that were ideally suited for particular environments and cultures being selected for. To deny that there are genetically… Read more »
rougy
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The fact remains that all human beings, regardless of race, are over 99.5% similar in terms of DNA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation “Race” which for all intents and purposes is the color of one’s skin, amounts to a very small difference between people and is on the whole a cosmetic difference. If you randomly chose 100 whites and 100 blacks from similar environments, the difference between the two groups, on paper, would likewise be negligible. Race is not the problem. It is a distraction. The concentration of wealth is the problem. A system that continues to concentrate that wealth to an even greater… Read more »
Uhuh
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Wikipedia says it so it HAS to true! You are not much of a scientist, huh? Let me do you a favor and correct your numbers with a more reputable source: (http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics ):The smithsonian institute claims that the human genome varies by an average of 0.1% (and from a CHIMPANZEE an average of 1.2%). I’m sure to you this is just more evidence that humans are all the same (in which case you negate the “diversity is our strength” tripe as diversity doesn’t actually exist) to me however the fact that all human variants are encoded by 0.1% of our… Read more »
rougy
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“The question I have for you is why do you think that the US is reaching levels of inequality on par with that of a colonial America….”

It’s due to the GOP agenda of serving the rich and pissing on the poor. This all started in earnest under Ronald Reagan in 1981. Tax cuts for the rich. Deregulations, also a gift to the rich who own the corporations. Corporate tax cuts, the same as tax cuts for the rich. Union busting. Off-shoring, which is encouraged under GOP administrations.

That’s the reality, not perceived differences in race.

Uhuh
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You are nothing if not dogmatic. Giving “Tax cuts for the rich” does not necessarily harm everyone else. In an economy where the money stays local (ex. There is local manufacturing) cutting taxes will free up dispensable income which can then be used to purchase more goods (taxes recouped as sales tax) and services (aka “job creation”). The idea is that by expanding the labor market the taxes cut are recouped as a larger tax base paying a lower tax rate will return the same gross amount of taxes as a smaller tax base taxed at a higher rate with… Read more »
rougy
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“While you may not agree with it, giving “Tax cuts for the rich” is rooted in sound economic theory and does not necessarily harm everyone else. ” Yes, in fact, it does. It gives even more wealth and power to those who already have most of the wealth and power. Regulations exist to protect the people and the environment. Any savings the corporations make by the removal of those regulations will never be reinvested for the purpose of creating jobs. Never. The savings will on be kept a profits. When you trace the decline of union membership in the USA,… Read more »
Uhuh
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Sorry forgot one:
“Regulations exist to protect the people and the environment. Any savings the corporations make by the removal of those regulations will never be reinvested for the purpose of creating jobs. Never. The savings will on be kept a profits.”

I mentioned “unnecessary regulations”. Clearly not are regulations fall under that category.
As far as businesses “never” reinvesting in the company or the workers, you are incorrect; “rarely”rather than never in today’s globalized economy would be more accurate… and I agree… see now you are onto something!

Uhuh
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Again: more dogma. “It gives even more wealth and power to those who already have most of the wealth and power.” Why is giving more wealth and power to “those who already have most of the wealth and power” bad? Please don’t tell me it is petty jealousy! Do you hate them because you want big houses with big boats and nice cars; a trophy wife and a handfull of super model mistresses… or is there something else? “When you trace the decline of union membership in the USA, there is a direct correlation to the decline of wages and… Read more »
rougy
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Why is giving more wealth and power to “those who already have most of the wealth and power” bad?

Because it leads to a situation we have now, where 43% of all American households are living paycheck to paycheck and 8 people have as much wealth as half the world combined.

The Dems aren’t much better, but the GOP never does anything for the working class. They can’t. That would be a betrayal to the rich people whom they exclusively serve.

Uhuh
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“Because it leads to a situation we have now, where 43% of all American households are living paycheck to paycheck and 8 people have as much wealth as half the world combined.”

Why do the wealthy allow that to be the situation?

rougy
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I thought this was timely:

“Seven studies using experimental and naturalistic methods reveal that upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals. ”

http://www.pnas.org/content/109/11/4086.full

rougy
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Because they’re psychopaths who have gone power mad. When you’ve reached the point where $400,000 dollars a day isn’t enough for you, what else would explain it?

By that point, they don’t care about the money, they care about the power & the prestige.

Uhuh
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“… what else would explain it?” The answer is more nuanced than “the rich” are all psychopaths. It’s all about group dynamics, specifically in-group vs out-group identity. Briefly: Man is a pack animal. Over the course of our evolution we have developed an instinctive and involuntary preference for our family, our tribe, and our clan as a strategy to ensure the survival of our offspring. This instinct to protect the our in-group is so strong that we are willing to put the well being of the group over our own well being. Being a pack animal man is also hierarchical… Read more »
rougy
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I’ve got to read this again. Part of it is right, but it breaks down the second we make it about race. Racism is not a strength, it is a weakness. Stasis is not a strength, it is stagnation.

An “ethnic nation state” is not the only positive outcome, not by far.

It is the distraction that keeps us from uniting to the degree where our resistance can be effective.

Convincing the lower-classes that their only hope is to group themselves according to race is a “divide and conquer” strategy as old as time itself.

Uhuh
Guest
Listen I get it… your brainwashing creates a hard stop whenever race is mentioned and will not allow you to even consider that there are actual genetic and physiological differences between the races as well as an innate inbred evolutionary preference for ones own race no matter how much those facts are rooted in science… I had to overcome the same training. I know that your knee-jerk reaction to what I’ve said is that I am a “racist” but notice I have done nothing but point out basic scientific data and even more poignantly that I NEVER made any kind… Read more »
rougy
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I am not opposed to “preferring your own race.”

I am opposed to making it a rule of law.

I appreciate the conversation. Not sure we’re going to make any headway here so, pip-pip, cheerio.

Uhuh
Guest

Good luck.
Watch your back out there.

Smash Islamophobia
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The amount of genetic diversity present within the human species, and clustered by race, is greater than that encompassed by the entire canid group, including all breeds of dogs, wolves, and coyotes. Chihuahuas are a social construct!

Evolver1
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So very wrong. As I’m sure you know we are also about 50% the same as bananas and we share various percentages of our DNA with all living things that we are aware of. And, why is this the case? It is because all life that we are aware of originated from those first minerals that made the leap from so-called non-living minerals to the living minerals that we call life. A practical place for us to start thinking about what led to all life was from the point that RNA and DNA were formed and it was from them–like… Read more »
rougy
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The major differences, the things that cause the clashes, are much more cultural than racial.

They are behavioral, not genetic.

Smash Islamophobia
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“They are behavioral, not genetic.”

Muh Blank Slate! Ya just gotta BELIEVE! Damn, you’re worse than the Jehovah’s Witnesses, with this mindless attempt at proselytizing by simply vomiting forth the basic tenets of the progressive cult; whole chunks that you’ve swallowed whole, without even chewing.

Evolver1
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The behaviors are a product of genes and various other factors. The Black violent crime rate is astronomical and those who fail to understand the importance of genes in this are constantly twisting themselves into intellectual pretzels trying to find causes for the effects–and they constantly fail. One wrong belief (such as genes don’t matter) can cause a great flow of wrong secondary ideas. To understand the so-called human condition, it helps to study other organisms and with a correct understanding one starts to see the light. Certain birds always build certain types of nests. This is not because of… Read more »
Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Aww, a little bit of truth is very painful to you commies, isn’t it?

rougy
Guest

You would comprise the “ignorant” group which the GOP exploits. Education is a powerful thing, son. Try it sometime.

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Translation: “Just support the officially promoted progressive establishment narrative, and you, too, can pretend that you’re “smart.” ”
Because mindless regurgitation of the catechism of the progressive cult is the quintessence of “education,” doncha know?

rougy
Guest

What is the progressive establishment narrative?

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Demonstrating yet again, that fish don’t know that water exists. Sad.

rougy
Guest

Just give me an example of what you consider to be the “progressive establishment narrative” preferably from the mouth of a noted progressive.

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Since you ask so nicely, I will assist you in alleviating your near-total lack of self-awareness. Read this:

https://thoughtprison-pc.blogspot.com

Some of (((Haidt)))’s writings might be helpful, too.

rougy
Guest

A buttload of nothing there.

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

I agree that you are constitutionally incapable of achieving any significant degree of self-awareness. Or, as you so eloquently put it, there’s “a buttload of nothing” in that section of what passes for your mind.

Haidt would probably be simpler for you to comprehend.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

“Diversity is our Strength” -Hillary Clinton 2016

rougy
Guest

Okay. So where is the celebration of “white displacement” in that line?

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Celebrating diversity is celebrating white displacement. By saying diversity is great, Hillary is basically saying this ne