Perspective

Is Based Stick Man Not So Based?

Kyle Chapman, AKA “Based Stick Man,” in a now deleted post, made the following statement last night on Facebook denouncing “racism” within the Trump movement.

While obviously there should be no calls for violence, and the wisdom of utilizing racial epithets is arguably bad optics, Chapman seems to believe that 1776 American identity was one devoid of race. To support his call for a race-blind form of American nationalism, Chapman posted a Wikipedia article that cites Jewish scholar Hans Kohn who claimed

[T]he United States government institutionalized a civic nationalism based on legal and rational concepts of citizenship, and based on a common language and cultural traditions, rather than ethnic nationalism. The founders of the United States founded the country upon classical liberal individualist principles rather than ethnic nationalist principles.

While Kohn is correct that the founders established America upon classical liberal individualist principles, these principles were not universally applied to non-Europeans. Many of the founders explicitly wrote about their feelings towards other races, as well as their plans for the future of American society, as Jared Taylor has thoroughly documented.  For example, John Jay, one of the major contributors of The Federalist Papers and the first Chief Justice of the United States stated in the second paper that America should be composed of

a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs.

Others like, James Madison, the fourth President of the United States who is hailed as the “Father of the Constitution” for his role in drafting the antiquated document in addition to the Bill of Rights said about blacks.

To be consistent with existing and probably unalterable prejudices in the U.S. freed blacks ought to be permanently removed beyond the region occupied by or allotted to a White population.

Even “the Great Emancipator” Abraham Lincoln himself, during the Lincoln-Douglas debates, asserted

I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality.

So why would the “based” stick man cuck on race, making an empirically false claim and alienating a significant proportion of his supporters? Much has recently been revealed about Chapman’s personal life after he was doxxed by antifa in an article by the anarchist website It’s Going Down. Though allegedly having read Arthur Kemp’s fashy two-volume history of the White race, March of the Titans, Chapman has a child with a woman of Asian descent, and it would make sense that advocating civic nationalism is about as far as he can go without alienating her or his progeny.

This poses a strange scenario for those in the Alt-Right, who just several days ago stood toe-to-toe against antifa at Trump rallies across the country. While I agree that it is disheartening to hear the man who ascended to a meme call for the rejection of White interests, we must nevertheless continue to move forward with our uneasy alliance in order to make progress on altering social policy. Ending sanctuary cities, birthright citizenship, and installing a national E-Verify system are just a handful of policies that we can work together with civic nationalists on, and if successful, would put us closer to securing a future for our people.

Kyle Chapman may be wrong about the Founder’s intentions, but he is undoubtedly a brave man who is willing to stand up against bullies for what he believes. He is still facing multiple criminal charges for defending people who rallied to support their president and were subsequently attacked by degenerate thugs for doing so. Next month, Chapman will be speaking along with Lauren Southern and others at The Freedom Rally in Berkeley in open defiance of the antifa goons who attacked him and others. If you are interested in donating to help with the funding, WeSearchr has a bounty going.

I disagree with much of what he has to say, but Chapman is a fellow traveler who shares a common enemy. There is no greater threat to human progress than censorship of public dialogue. Cultural Marxism thrives on an ignorant and demoralized populace and seeks to squash all dissenting narratives lest their intellectual fraudulence become exposed. This being the case, I as well as others will be at Berkeley on April 15th to stand in support and in protection of those who seek to participate in public discourse.

 

  • Ryan McDonald

    Like a lot of us, there is a process. He needs time and more information. Let’s remember that before we swallowed the pill, we thought a lot of non-sense. Send him IQ data and maybe some immigrant rape stats.

    • Crud Bonemeal

      He has mixed children.

      His incentive is to find a way to rationalize opposition to white ethno-nationalism, to secure a future for his non-white children.

      And his brain will be happy to provide those rationalizations.

      • Ryan McDonald

        Good point. Few can overcome that level of bias.

      • Billy Brown

        we are embedded deep with that. they need to realize it is going to be much worse for their children if they make this fight harder than it has 2 b

      • Clark Kent

        the bottom line…

    • Diversity Heretic

      Civic nationalism is an error, but a lot of Alt-Righters go through that stage before the true nature of race reality and its consequences hit home. A person with mixed race children may never be able to face racial reality; that white people are better off in the absence of minorities, or minorities kept in tiny numbers. But for the present we can work together against a common enemy. Once (and if) that battle is won, we can sort out the territory and allocate the population equitably.

      • TruthTeller

        Try watching the Olympics with a civic nationalist as I have. It created an argument as I root for Europeans over American negroes.

        • Diversity Heretic

          I have tried, but as you found out, it creates divisiveness, even within families.

    • TruthTeller

      I had to eradicate some programming of which I wasn’t even aware, but there was never a time when I could even consider the idea of turning my back on hundreds of generations of whites by throwing my DNA into the abyss.

      • Clark Kent

        I never had a problem with the idea of miscegenation until I realized there was a white genocide agenda. Miscegenation in the current year is basically equivalent to treason against one’s race.

        • positron1

          Consider Matt Forney’s take on race mixing, particularly point 2:

          http://mattforney.com/race-mixing-bad-mkay/

          • Clark Kent

            Forney gets a lot of shit but I always think of him as a smart guy.
            I think he’s got some good common sense here.

            Most interesting part of this page imo is that you had a child with a Latina woman, but you’ve still got the guts to be a white nationalist.

          • positron1

            I don’t know if I’d call myself a white nationalist, although I am proud of my northern European heritage. Mainly, I just hate the way the left uses race as a weapon to batter its opponents into submission. I hate forced multiculturalism and the idea that the problems of minorities are the fault of white men. I’d like to see Europe stay European and North America not become Latin America. On the other hand I do quite like being around many of the Jews, blacks, and Latinos I know.

            I’ve lived all over the world, learned many languages, and I fit in about as well in EE or Latin America as I do back in the US, better in some ways. That said, I’m an exception and I don’t think people should be shamed for wanting to be with their own kind. Most people are more comfortable and better off that way.

          • Clark Kent

            Humanity is going to naturally evolve over time, but I’d prefer it to be an organic process rather than this techno-communist state run by psychopaths.
            To force racial and cultural deconstruction on entire populations to me seems like madness. It would justifiably lead to violent hysteria.

            My personal self is more naturally liberal/libertarian, and like I said miscegenation was never a big deal to me before. But I cannot support what I am seeing happening to the West right now, and I think Europe has sacred right to preserve itself. If that makes me “far right” or a “fascist”, then so be it.

          • jz95

            So Clark, why do you still support Roosh, a racial alien who chases after white women?

          • Clark Kent

            Because Roosh is intelligent enough to understand what’s going on.
            Sure he’s a PUA, but he clearly advocates against mass-immigration and cultural collapse.

          • jz95

            I just find this curious.
            You’re pretty much an unabashed white nationalist now. You’re opposed to race mixing and the dilution of European people by immigration and/or mating.
            Yet that is exactly what Roosh does. No matter what alt-right mythmakers may say, Iranians are not white Europeans. They are racially/ethnically/genetically (whichever you prefer) distinct from Europeans, no matter how “white” they may look phenotypically. Roosh is a racial alien in Europe, who seeks to mate with an eastern European girl, thereby diluting their native stock with his alien genes. Not only this, but his books instruct non-white men to do the same thing. If Roosh was truly a “traditionalist,” as he claims himself to be, he wouldn’t be in eastern Europe. He would be in Iran or Armenia, looking for a girl who is more genetically similar to himself.

          • Aurelius

            There is a modern admixture of Semitic genetics, but the original Iranians were Indo-Europeans, which is the group that “white people” come from.

          • jz95

            Where is the evidence that there was admixture between the Arabs and Iranians?
            And Indo-Europeans were the ANCESTORS of these people. They were not modern white Europeans.

          • Aurelius

            “Where is the evidence that there was admixture between the Arabs and Iranians?” Jeeeeze, THE FACT THAT A TRADITIONALLY ZORASTRIAN NATION IS ISLAMIC.

            The indo-europeans were a recognizable group 6000 years ago. Evolution does not progress that fast. I am not say modern Iranians are white. I am saying they come from the same people as whites and had they remain faithful tot heir lineage, they would have looked much like us.

          • jz95
          • Aurelius

            Yes, this doesn’t disprove my point though and the hypothesis that is posited in that article is the one I am actually working off of. Ancient Iranians (Im talking 4000 years ago) had a common ancestor with Europeans. The Russian steppe (the caucuses) are less than than 2000 miles from modern Iran. That is very very close.

          • Clark Kent

            Roosh has brought too much value to the manosphere in general and to just turn on him because he’s not white seems dishonourable and pointless to me.
            If it wasn’t for ROK, I might not even have had the opportunity to really think about a lot of this stuff anyways.
            I can’t criticize Roosh for not being the personification of “tradition” because it’s been a gradual process to discover this stuff. Roosh might be living in Eastern Europe, but he respects the nation and isn’t a traitorous liberal.

            I don’t have a problem with non-whites. I have a problem with people who threaten Western civilization.

          • jz95

            According to the alt-right, non-whites ARE a threat to western civilization. Hence, the push for the creation of a “white ethnostate.”

          • Clark Kent

            I’m not gonna just turn on Roosh kuz he’s Iranian if that’s what you’re looking for.
            If I understand him correctly, Roosh would support the formation of a white ethnostate. He’s intelligent enough to understand why that would be a fair thing to do. He was also intelligent enough to call out the threat to the West as soon as Merkel let in these “refugees”.

            Roosh obviously cannot lead the alt-right. That is up to whites to do for themselves. But I consider Roosh to be an ally, and that’s that.

          • jz95

            Which I find funny, because Roosh (I think) understands that he is not welcome in a white ethnostate, barring the mythmakers who believe Iranians are or were white. And I’ll be perfectly honest with you, I don’t think Roosh really cares about 90% of the things he talks about. In the end, I think all he cares about is fucking white women, and he will do anything to continue to do so. If that means allying himself with the alt-right that’s what he will do.
            I’m sorry to say, but realizing that migrants streaming into the west unchecked is a problem (to say the least) isn’t exactly rocket science.

        • The Dank One

          Hi Clark,

          I don’t really have anything to add to your comment, just wanted to say “hello”.

          Years back, I remember reading your comments at R.O.K. before I fully understood the importance of race as the foundation of Western Civilization, and before I came to understand the JQ and how feminism is playing one of the most central roles in the destruction of our race. Your personal stories were great!

          It’s good to see here. Best wishes!

  • Evolver1

    So, he’s a White miscegenationist? Spit! shut up you scumbag and don’t try to lecture Whites based on your anti-White actions in having non-White children. We do not exist in 1775 Americana or the Constitution or any other secondary things. We exist ONLY in our White genome. You no longer exist in the next generation as a White. You have proven yourself as one of nature’s unfit.

  • Ike35

    Well, that’s an onion in the ointment but I generally agree with Nathan that the Alt-Right can implicitly support this guy until he eventually does a full monty cuck or explicitly attacks the Alt-Right or one of it’s top men. When he pulls a Gavin McCuckis, then it’s no mercy, turn both barrels on him. It’ll be scorched earth meme war.

  • Para State

    “Chapman has a child with a woman of Asian descent”
    Oh it always is the asian woman…
    Why does a guy whos a dad with family engage in violance risking jailtime.

  • marijan

    Can’t be surprised, he’s a basic bitch civic nationalist

  • Crud Bonemeal

    His facebook post is no longer visible, you should put a screenshot instead of a direct link

    • Thanks, we typically like to embed the posts but will use screenshots in the case you just mentioned.

  • Ed Edgerton

    Is it possible that Based Stickman is part of a hoax? I don’t see any YouTube videos suggesting this, but we should keep in mind that our adversaries have the ability to create characters, falsely present them as real to the public, and then use them for propaganda purposes. I recommend looking for things that don’t add up about this guy.

    At 5:00 in this video, you can see Stickman hit an antifa over the head with his stick, and the end of the stick flies off. Could this mean that the stick was not a real weapon but actually a stage prop?

    • Para State

      Besides that this is possible, i wouldn’t go as far as to say the stick was a stage prob. If the left wants to stage something, they have no probs with letting fellow lefti cannon fodder bite the dust for it.

      • Ed Edgerton

        It is not the left that stages false events. It is the deep state. George Soros & company would not be able to get away with this sort of thing. They need cooperation from the media and police, both of which are infiltrated by intelligence agencies.

        • Para State

          Haha, every little piss-Group related to any sort of political activism does these things. Antifa gets infiltrated by Anti-Antifa gets infiltrated by the Police who are infiltrated by the Antifa. Lots of free radicals with their own agenda out there.

    • CharismatiCurmudgeon

      I actually thought the same thing when it became a (short-lived) meme. The main shot that was used of him brandishing the weapon seemed awfully well-choreographed to have been captured during an altercation. Secondly, doesn’t this guy have some kind of direct connection to Vagin McCuckus, who is possibly controlled opposition?

      • Ed Edgerton

        Which main shot? Can you give a time in the video?

        You mean Gavin McInnis?

        • CharismatiCurmudgeon

          Yeah, I thought Vagin was a nice anagram of Gavin.

  • Corvid

    The yellow fever has short-circuited his rational mind.

  • Kate Hikes

    So, he has a mixed raced child: that’s not ideal, of course, but not everyone who aids our cause will agree with all our ideals. On the plus side, he likes to bash antifa heads in with a hockey stick, and it’s hard not to admire that. I’m not sure why he’s come out with this now, though perhaps he feels that he’s likely to catch some heat from violent leftists and believes that this is the best way to protect himself and his family. I think it’s best to reserve judgement for the time being.

    • Hard not to admire that indeed.

    • millermp1

      Glad to see there is at least one voice to offset the virtue spiraling. If none other than Richard Lynn found cautious optimism in the rise of the Far East to offset the looming dysgenic catastrophe, I hope that others in this movement would take moment to reflect on that as well.

      • Crud Bonemeal

        Chinese may understand race, but that doesn’t mean they are automatically allied with everyone else who understands race.

        Chinese have an interest in TAKING what white people currently have, and taking advantage of our weakened state.

        And given their numbers, and their current rates of immigration, they represent a serious threat to white countries; at minimum we need to stop Chinese immigration right now.

        Chinese people stand to gain from our loss. And people with Chinese children have divided loyalties.

        • millermp1

          “And people with Chinese children have divided loyalties.”

          That’s a good point and I agree. Since we moved into an affluent and overwhelmingly white, old money neighborhood, it’s impossible not to pickup on the undercurrents that drove Brexit (something I supported btw). One neighbor flew the Union Jack after Leave won.

          From my informal survey, those Chinese immigrants who are already here would be one of the first to put up barriers to additional Chinese immigration, if not a moratorium. They didn’t come here to recreate the environments which they left. The illusion of “inevitable demographics” that Democrats counted on to seal multi-generational victories was just that.

          In terms of the divided loyalties, I would say while somewhat true it’s probably less than you think and in any case orders of magnitude less than with Jews and Israel. And looking at the demographics wrt to Africa and the ME, I think some kind of coalition is inevitable. It’s simply too late in the day for European Man to go it alone.

          Other than whites themselves, I would say the the Chinese in America are the least inclined to promote population replacement. I think they of all people realize that demographics is destiny.

          And lastly, for the sake of intellectual integrity, so we don’t end up like the Left, we should be more deliberate in how we frame certain positions. For example, “Chinese have an interest in TAKING what white people currently have”, they’re not so much taking as buying, often at a steep premium (e.g. “higher” education), what American’s are selling.

          My point would be: the movement needs effective triage and not virtue spiraling. To quibble over Stick Man’s mixed race kids is simply a misplaced priority.

          • This is easy to understand. Read this article about the race issue of Asian-Aryanism,

            http://asianaryanism.com/white-asian-or-asian-aryan/

          • Model Immigrant 🇺🇸

            I do agree that Chinese Americans like myself who’s family has been in America since the 1800s can find common ground with the WN.

            Chinese in general are fiercely conservative with good family values and believe in a pure blood family.

            However that has come under recent criticism lately as more liberal values are infecting our culture.

            We tend to be very skeptical of other cultures that don’t mesh well with ours like Islam which is viewed as fundamentalism.

            We also have our southern invaders as well like the Mexicans but we refer to them as Filipinos which we half jokingly call the Mexicans of Asia.

            But in all seriousness we see ANTIFA in the same light as we saw Mao’s Red Guards basically thug kids that riot and create unrest. So I will be at the Battle of Berkeley again with other like-minded people and we’ll bash some commies heads.

          • Rascal

            Model Immigrant: And this is the difference between you, ally material, and “based stickman”. We have a mutual understanding that we do not speak out publicly against each others interests. I wouldn’t speak out against your children’s interests, and would expect you do the same for me. “Based Stickman” broke this cardinal rule.

          • Crud Bonemeal

            “My point would be: the movement needs effective triage and not virtue
            spiraling. To quibble over Stick Man’s mixed race kids is simply a
            misplaced priority.”

            We didn’t pick a fight with him.

            He picked a fight with us.

            And he tried to undermine and censor the “racist” attitudes of nationalists, which are necessary for self defense of the group, attitudes which every other race sensibly holds already.

            And he tried to push people away from racial awareness, back towards a cucked fake civic nationalism that ends only in a third world country.

          • millermp1

            I don’t think anyone is completely immune to the siren song of virtue signaling.

            Generally, my attitude towards those reluctant to entertain, let alone accept, the evidence of population genetics is to be indulgent but firm. Be the Bigger Man. The sensible ones will eat their vegetables eventually.

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            If WN aspirations prove unattainable, a robust civic nationalism, as a fallback option, would be incomparably superior to cult marx devastation.

          • Crud Bonemeal

            It depends.

            It’s probably fine for Eastern Europe.

            But America has the demographics of a third world country.

            Even if we never get anything explicitly WN, it may be more desirable to let Americans split apart, as they will naturally tend to do, rather than promote some ideology that artificially binds (and blends) them together.

          • A hymn to Hermes

            I don’t really see a difference between civic nationalism and cultural marxism. What exactly are the distinctions? Every time I’ve pushed into a civic nationalist they always fall back to ‘cultural marxist’ axioms.

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            Civic nationalism would attempt to foster unity around some shared cultural core rather than continue to heighten antagonisms between alleged oppressors and the allegedly oppressed (rich vs poor, hetero vs homo, male vs female, white vs non-white etc). The only ‘cultural marxist’ item that civic nationalism would struggle to eschew is that surrounding race.

            Like race, sex is (realistically) an unchangeable category, but men need women in a way that whites do not need non-whites, so civic nationalism could quite easily dispense with cult marx nonsense about sex.

          • A hymn to Hermes

            It’s possible there would be different policy, although most of the things you are talking about are functions of the private sector and cultural institutions which would still wield political power under Civic Nationalists due to their belief in the absolute right of said institutions to essentially foment civil war.

            Just from my personal experience it takes very little effort to get a Civic Nationalist to turn to progressive talking points when in a serious discussion. I think the biggest distinction between the two is that individual progressives actually (and accurately) view their ideas as politically possible and so the smart ones think in terms of policy and are willing to embrace policy prescriptions which will bring about their desired goals which are opposed to deontological liberal ideals.

            I don’t see Civic Nationalists holding onto their hidebound moral posturing after acquiring power and not using that power to work towards some endgoal, which functionally isn’t really different than the status quo as they are primarily anti-racists. The idea of Civic Nationalism right now rose as an anti-racist reaction to various competing ethnic interests but primarily as an opponent of white nationalism and directing a message of anti-racist multiracial “nationalism” at the cohort that is already the least racist. I’ve no real reason to believe that Civic Nationalists in power won’t use that power primarily to harm whites for the benefit of non-whites. They are already supporting Amnesty.

            Kyle Chapman’s reasoning is pretty much endemic. White people need to change and become more politically correct for the benefit of non-whites and any harm caused by non-whites against whites historically was justified as revenge against some past crimes, and any future harm will likewise be justified unless we “be good” in the present. I don’t see them not primarily using their theoretical future power to make whites “be good” as this is why they exist in the present and I don’t see what tools they would ever have at their disposal as liberals other than giving non-whites a leg up and a free hand vis a vis economic and criminal opportunity respectively.

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            A robust civic nationalism of the kind I envision would indeed require a thoroughgoing cultural sea change. Without such a change, I’m afraid the result be much like what you’ve outlined in this post. The heart of a transformed civic nationalist culture would have to be anti-anti-white for it to be of any benefit to whites. In essence, this would be a recognition that diversity, integration, multiracialism and so on have massively failed whites, however the best that can be done for whites is to get other races off their backs – no more whining about racism, privilege etc. On the part of non-white civic nats, I think it’s far from impossible that they could agree that “hey, white people are okay, leave ’em alone” – much the way that whites today reflexively apologize for blacks and their retarded bullshit and refuse to hear out points of view that attack black people.

          • Marshall Lentini

            I, for one, can totally see white people buying round-trip tickets to eastern Congo to pitch in at the tantalum mines.

            https://longreads.com/2016/03/08/your-phone-was-made-by-slaves-a-primer-on-the-secret-economy

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            I don’t see the connection between that article and what I said here. Do you mean nothing of the sort that I talked about is possible because white people’s prevailing mentality would have them sacrifice what little they have left in the name of uplifting or equalizing non-whites? If so, then it should be clear that any hope for a pro-white civic nationalist future (to say nothing of a white nationalist future) hinges on whites ditching this mentality. Don’t laugh, stranger things have happened!

          • Marshall Lentini

            Dude I just mean that if you want shit from the world someone’s doing the digging — and these days it’s nearly always brown people

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            Well, okay but so what? They’re not doing it for free.

          • Marshall Lentini

            White people need non-white people. Not like men need women – which is zoological – but in an equally inextricable fashion. That’s all.

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            White people obviously could do the entirety of their own digging. It’s nothing that’s beyond them in the slightest (white miners still exist, after all). For life to go on, men absolutely need women; whites do not need non-whites to anywhere near the same “inextricable” degree – strictly speaking, whites do not need non-whites at all.

            All this is beside the point I was making about civic nationalism anyway, which was that civic nationalism could dispense with feel-good bullshit (from a non-feminist perspective) about sex because no matter how much it might upset some women (and more than a few men), men and women still need each other (both in order to propagate, and in order to live a good life). Civic nationalism could not nearly so easily dispense with feel-good bullshit about race, because if whites realized how little they “need” non-whites (or indeed non-blacks, blacks), the whole system could unravel, or would at least be seriously destabilized.

      • Clytemnestra

        Good grief. Asian Fever is nothing new. It first manifested itself BIGLY when American GIs came home with their Japanese and Korean War Brides and this during Pre-Feminist Mystique America when all White women were studying Fascinating Womanhood so that they could marry Mr. Right and be the perfect wife and mother.

        My mother remembered talking to one Lotus Blossom Eater who was in raptures because he heard that Japanese women would walk on his back. Your attraction to Asian women has nothing to do with any defects on the part of American White women. Otherwise, you could have and would have gone to Eastern Europe and gotten any number of very attractive, very traditional White women to be your wife.

        It would be nice, for a change, if modern White men with Asian women would accept that they are wired to find Asians attractive and just OWN it, instead of blaming White women for this trait. Yes, it may be hard to accept that what floats your boat sinks your racial heritage, but that’s on YOU not anyone else. That’s the paradox of being a racially conscious race mixer. The damage is done (your children), so learn to live with it.

        • millermp1

          Certainly, like so many other choices, the asian thing is driven in part by my priors. I’m from Prague myself, and there were some lovely girls when I went to school there. But transcontinental wife shopping introduces a fraught dynamic. It’s OK if you’re honest about opportunism, but often we delude ourselves as much as others, i.e. is she more interested in the passport? Does she even know herself?

          In any case, if you visit a typical college campus these days, I think all of my points can be fairly well substantiated. You don’t need to tell most Asian girls to “wrap the gift, be classy.”

          That said, as far as sinking my racial heritage, I do sometimes feel a bit wistful when I see a striking European girl.

          But discussions about heritage should be tempered with what is happening in genetics these days. We are already bringing back extinct species and there’s no reason we couldn’t do that for human tribes. If parents want blue eyed blonde babies (and they are adorable!) they could recover those or even create them de novo. If in 10 to 20 years my children decide that they like the Nordic look, they can bring back those genes in my grandchildren. I hear rumors from parts of my social circle that people with money and access are already tinkering here. I’m certain that within the next 5 years some enterprising couple will go to China to get a heavily designed baby (most likely starting with cognitive enhancements). There is no government or laws on this Earth that will stop this trend.

          The bigger issue in the midterm is broader population trends. Even if we start putting better buns in every oven, it’ll be 20+ years before the fruit of that effort emerges. And the next 20 years have some alarming dysgenic loads already baked in (Cf Africa). If we can get through this century without self-immolating or getting hopefully dumbed down, most of these conversations will appear like the obsessive hermeneutics of the Medieval Ages (“how many angels on the head of pin?”).

          • Clytemnestra

            What a bunch of nonsense. Disengage the head below your belt buckle and let’s just sort through all your self-justification to get to the very real issue of how your wiring still short-circuits any racial self-preservation on your part, i.e. YOUR CHILDREN.

            You’re from Prague. Eastern Europe. Attractive, traditional White women abound there. Yet, you couldn’t bring yourself to marry a girl from YOUR HOME TOWN, because you couldn’t be sure she wasn’t using you for a green card. Got it.

            Yet, you’re rock solid on the idea that an Asian girl wouldn’t use you for a green card or any other reason, simply because she has too much class? Right. Got it.

            This kind of rationale only makes sense to a race-mixer. A MALE race-mixer. I assure you that a White woman with Mulatto children acquired from her Mandingo Syndrome wouldn’t have the brass tacks to waste our time with this bullshit. One of the remaining perks of White Male Privilege, which I admit, ain’t what it used to be, but still.

            But it’s all okay, because all YOUR CHILDREN have to do is wait for science and technology to catch up and undo YOUR miscegenation if they so desire. Assuming the hefty price they will have to pay for getting back your blonde hair and blue eyes. Congratulations.

          • Clytemnestra

            Hmmm. It looks like the moderator is a friend of yours. My response to your self-justifications was deleted. Let’s see if this one stays up.

            You came from Prague. Eastern Europe. Your hometown is chock full of attractive, traditional White women. Yet you opted to go Asian, because you couldn’t be sure a hometown girl wouldn’t be with you out of love, but would only be using you for a green card? Of course, an Asian girl would never use you for a green card or anything else?

            The idea that this rationale should be accepted by any one on this board only makes sense to a race mixer. A male race mixer. A woman race mixer wouldn’t waste her time. She understands that she is shunned by racially conscious Whites and does not expect them to make a place for her mixed children in White society. Yet here you are.

            But it’s all good, because science and technology must eventually catch up and provide you with blonde, blue-eyed descendants, assuming your children or grandchildren can afford the hefty price they will have to pay to fix what you’ve broken.

            As I said, Asian Fever is nothing new. I grew up in a very predominately White area, yet there was a “Massage Parlor” that was staffed by Asian girls set up not far from where I lived. It was open twenty-four seven and its parking lot was always full of cars driven by White male patrons (with White wives and children) who were smart enough to figure out how to satisfy their fetishes without impacting their racial legacy.

            So to any other men with half-Asian children here, I have a suggestion. Don’t worry, moderator, I’ll be gentle. Rather than blaming White women for the way you’re wired, keep it short, sweet and pithy. “Before I became racially conscious, I met and married an Asian woman and we had children. Whoops! Now we have a family to which I’m obligated.” How hard is that?

    • Rascal

      The guy spoke out against White interests. He is speaking out against the interests of White children. If people cannot see the problem with that, they are absolutely worthless. Sorry, but fuck that, and fuck him.

      • Kate Hikes

        I agree that he missed a good opportunity to shut up. But I should make two points. Firstly, whether we like it or not, we are going to have ally in one way or another with civic nationalists, for we must push our ideas into the mainstream. A civic nationalist candidate can win elections in western countries; an openly White nationalist candidate cannot, at least not yet. Secondly, the kind of civic nationalism that Trump, and people like Le Pen in Europe, promote is implicitly White.

        • Rascal

          That’s great, let me know when they are actually willing to act like allies. People like us may not be able to win elections, but we can cause the civic nationalists to lose them. They depend on our votes, just like the brain dead conservatives did, yet think they can just shit all over White people and their interests.

          • Kate Hikes

            Like going out in to the streets and fighting antifa, you mean?

            We criticize civic nationalists all the time, as we should, and they criticize us, and that is not surprising because we have some pretty fundamental disagreements, All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t overreact. Our fates are tied at present.

          • Rascal

            Civic nationalists are not the only ones that do this. Battle of Sacramento? The California rally was full of /ourguys/. I will criticize any civic nationalist that explicitly speaks out against White interest politics until they stop doing it.

            Besides, I don’t even like the idea of civic nationalism. wtf does it even mean in the end?

          • Kate Hikes

            Sure, but in many of the recent fights between antifa and our side, there have been alt-right guys, civic nationalists and even traditional conservatives, so it’s fair to say that they are our allies.

            I, too, am not a fan of civic nationalism, but it is a powerful force at present, and if we are to achieve our aims, or even bring them into the mainstream, then we have to work with it. And, as I said, civic nationalists are normally defending something that is implicitly White in any case. Take for example what’s happening in France. The Front National, a civic nationalist party, has the slogan ‘On est chez nous’ (This is our home), while Génération Identitare, a White nationalist youth movement, which has been growing in strength, has the slogan ‘On est chez nous. Vous pouvez pas rester en Europe. Rentrez chez vous!’ (This is our home. You cannot stay in Europe. Go back home!). This is a fine example of an implicit message from a civil nationalist being made explicit by White nationalists.

          • Rascal

            I am fine with civic nationalists that do not counter signal White interests, and I get your point. I do. I have no problem with people that are genuine civic nationalists at this time.

            I don’t even have a problem with non White civic nationalists that at the same time tout their own racial interests. The second you speak out about White interests we have a problem though. That is all I am saying.

          • Kate Hikes

            Well that’s fair enough.

            I must say that I’m looking forward to the forum being set up, so that we can explore these sort of ideas in more depth.

    • Michael De Santa

      Supplicating to the left will never guarantee safety. Everyone who has supplicated to the left is still demonised by them.

  • CharismatiCurmudgeon

    Here come the memes.

    • Darwin’s Accelerator

      He’s actually asking for people to make memes for him. A few cuck memes would be sufficient.

  • invincible white owl

    Anyone see his interview with McInnes? Not the first one: it was some subsequent one that only paying Rebel Media subscribers could see (thus, I didn’t see it.)
    Someone said he supposedly dissed Spencer re the bullsh*t from Inauguration Day: the usual lame & nonsensical crap that RS “should’ve fought back” (uh, how? the sh*tlib ran off!)
    Granted I don’t know if this really did happen, but I have 2 admit the notion of that sort of soured me re KC.
    And now this WN-countersignalling: jeez, after so many WNs offered support, prayers, etc to him!
    But, yeah, I reluctantly do agree with Nathan re working with the civic nationalists.
    This sux though.

    • marijan

      Not so based stick man. The need to counter signal means you are not based or tough. It means you are a basic bitch republican. Slightly edgy civic nationalist. We must re-meme him

      • invincible white owl

        Agreed.
        Memelords, start your engines.

  • OhBoy

    I can understand that he’s not a full white nationalist etc but there is no reason to say what he said. Just take a stance more similar to a Chuck Johnson who married and had children with an Asian.(or just shut the fuck up) Demographics matter even if you don’t think the US needs to be 100% white.

  • Jason R.

    well done, Nathan.

  • There are a lot of things you can be and still consider yourself and your views to be the antithesis to politically correct dogmas that have been the main ingredient in the raping and perverting of the Western World. But an anti-racist sure isn’t one of those things. If there’s one thing that ideologues of political correctness all rally around, it’s the constant cries of “racism” and the never-ending virtue signaling where they always use the “I’m not a racist” defense to attack you.

    Anyone not explicitly and proudly telling you they are pro-White is, more than likely, someone who will sacrifice their Whiteness and your Whiteness to further their own personal agendas. Pro-White people should NEVER put any kind of faith in someone who uses “racism” to differentiate and put you in a Them vs You scenario.

    This story is a perfect example of why I have a low tolerance threshold for yellow-fevered Asian fetishists. It almost always becomes an exponential identity game where you are expected to lessen your “racism” in order to accommodate for a growing multitude of interracial relationships.

  • Laguna Beach Fogey

    Not so based. But what else is new? Alt-Righters are always so willing to support unknown people who appear to support the cause. They end up looking like fools.

    There can be no compromise with White men who mix with Asians.

    • jaye VBellis

      A White guy with courage to fight Antifa Communists on the Campus of U Cal Berkeley and who is getting laid by Asian women, this guy can also get laid, mate with healthy White women. Let’s introduce him to some.

      Ladies – please get to know this guy.

      • Vincent Law

        It’s easier to get laid with an asian girl…thats why he did it. And then his political ideology followed.

  • MylesStandish

    Come on guys, gook wives are altright af. Mentally disturbed hapa offspring are the future of the white race. Based shitlords like Mitch McConnell and Jeff Sessions know all about that sweet, sweet mongol love; it’s so fashy. Sure, your house will smell like dead fish from all the exotic cooking and your kids will be insane, but that’s a small price to pay to avoid those yucky white hips and bosoms.

    We can all rest easy with based Oriental woman, Elaine Chao, at the helm of the the Department of Transportation. Selling off American infrastructure so that we can pay tolls to Chicom rent-seekers is going to make America Great Again! I can’t wait for the new toll roads!

    • Not the “white” race, but an Asian-Aryan one. I love my mom and her cooking. I don’t like ruthless Chinese and enjoy a fusion culture between the two. I would like my own ethnostate next to the White and Asian one, Thank you.

    • Nothing_Much

      Sarcasm?

    • epleguy

      ((( THE BLACK PILL )))

  • JosephtheGreat

    “Aggressive defense” sounds like a euphemism for violence. He hit someone over the head with a stick. That’s violence.

    Not to say I disagreed with what he did. But let’s call a spade a spade and not be pussies with our words.

  • JosephtheGreat

    I don’t know why anyone would have assumed he was a white nationalist. He bashed an antifa over the head. Okay? Everyone to the right of Michael Moore hates Antifa. He supported Donald Trump? And so did tens of millions of other people of which probably not even a third are white nationalist.

    • Laguna Beach Fogey

      Some people in the Alt-Right are desperate for friends, acceptance, and approval from the outside, so they look for signs of sympathy where they don’t exist, and then they make fools of themselves.

      It’s a major weakness with the Alt-Right.

      There can be no compromise with these fuckers.

      • marijan

        This is so true. Based stick man was immediately a hero in the AltRight virtually overnight, fanboys were everywhere. It’s a bad look. Then again I’m AltReich so I wasn’t that impressed

      • Rascal

        The problem is, is when people preach a little caution, they get accused of “purity spiraling” far too quickly. I am so glad I didn’t donate to this guy, and didn’t play him up. Next time I will speak up about it too.

        Besides, you don’t have to be a WN/Alt Right to NOT speak out directly against White interests like this guy has. This guy went beyond simple civic nationalism/alt lite, and spoke directly against White interests.

        • ThomasER916

          I never donate unless I research. It took all of about 1 minute to discover his Asian wife and halfus. Whenever someone is mixing they’re against White interests. It’s just that simple.

      • Michael De Santa

        Definitely agree. It’s unfortunate that he just spat on his fanbase. Any smart business man will tell you not to alienate your base. BSM just ended his meme reign.

    • invincible white owl

      I don’t anyone ever did assume he was WN (especially after the yellow wife), but you’d think that when so many of the people who supported him (whether monetarily, memetically, with kind words/prayers/etc) are WN, he’d at least not of his own initiative countersignal us.
      If some asshole interviewer was verbally cornering him or something, I’d give a bit more leeway, but this particular thing was so unnecessary. Truly not a classy thing to do, to put it kindly.

      • If specific racial identity politics is paramount to pro-Whites and other racialists, then it makes perfect sense that opposition to that specific kind of identity would be paramount to someone who will always have one foot planted firmly outside of a specific racial identity. No matter where the other foot lies, he/she will always be cemented by the outlying foot.

      • JosephtheGreat

        The only answer is that he truly believes and accepts wholesale the narrative that racists are immoral people and he does not want our support. Would you refrain from attacking a pedophile if he supported you? I say this not to compare the two but to demonstrate the point that if you disagree with someone strong enough then their support is not going to mean much to you.

        • invincible white owl

          If you’ve seen his (first) interview with McInnes though, he actually seems/d to “get it” re brown people: didn’t seem to be squeamish re things that mainstream people would find “racy.”
          I do get your point re your analogy, but it’s doubtful that he actually does think it’s immoral or anything.
          This just smacks of lame, pussified cucking, imao: probably got some flak from lefties, got “racist!” or even “White supremist!” lobbed at him a few times, & dissolved into cuckoldry. Sad!

    • marijan

      Not one of those gook lovers can say anything positive about WN because it makes them look bad. Still, they could say it’s a reasonable thing to fight for, but that’s too much to ask. These are flawed humans and they are the majority

    • Rascal

      Who assumed he was a WN? As soon as I saw he had an Asian wife I knew he wasn’t. IT is just incredibly stupid to signal against White people for these civic nationalists, considering they need our votes for their fantasy. Shit like this almost makes me hope Trump loses in 4 years.

      • Michael De Santa

        Most people are looking for a hero. BSM was exactly that to most people. He was a white man sticking it to known enemies thus became a hero, which in turn, made people see him as a man for white people.

  • Eli Mosley

    The above article is great, but check out this comment in that post that is directed right at us. There is no hope for this man or his rice-children. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8103282a2d46aed0a3dfce4495b255d6528afe5750c96c9e467812dfdb8add5b.jpg

    • TruthTeller

      He’s missing the understanding that conflicts aren’t won by numbers; they’re won by quality.

      • invincible white owl

        “In war, art, and enterprise, great quality can predominate over mere ‘numbers.’
        Our Race’s history is replete with examples of this.” —Richard B. Spencer

        • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

          Well, WNs have no choice but to believe that. Unfortunately, quantity has a quality all its own – just as in basketball, you “can’t teach height.” At some point, all the quality in the world won’t help.

          And anyway, I’m not so sure that WNs today are of above average quality to start with.

          • TruthTeller

            Do you understand how different populations are dispersed across the country? Hint: not too much farmland in the South Side of Chicago or in the black ghettoes of NYC.

          • jaye VBellis

            I live on the South Side of Chicago.

            There is actually a lot of open land, open space here that can and should be used for agriculture. The all Black South Side has lost lots of population, it’s no longer heavily dense population.

            Growing high end herbs for high end local restaurants makes sense. So much of Detroit is going back to nature, might as well harvest nature.

          • TruthTeller

            Negro city dwellers don’t know how to farm and have virtually nowhere to farm even if they did. That’s the point.

          • jaye VBellis

            Who says the Negro dwellers are going to farm these inner city areas?

            More like urban pioneers (White people)

            Displaced White farmers from South Africa can do a good job.

          • Marshall Lentini

            B-b-but “more white babies”!!!!!

          • KilltheBank

            No one cares what you think

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            Doesn’t matter, I’m still right.

          • KilltheBank

            Whatever you gotta say to make yourself not so sad

      • positron1

        “Quantity has a quality all of its own” Joseph Stalin supposedly said.

        • TruthTeller

          That applies to WW2 but it wouldn’t translate to the issue here. It’s not thousands of moderately inferior Red Army tanks being operated by white soldiers. It’s a completely different set of logistics.

          • positron1

            It will be interesting to see how it plays out, if it really comes to race war as your side is saying. I wouldn’t have believed it possible up until recently, but then again it was you guys on the alt.right who predicted a Trump win with confidence, so I take your opinions seriously now.

            What becomes of a race mixer like me and my family in that scenario? I really don’t see myself throwing my lot in with the Bolsheviks, but if you guys won’t accept me, I guess we’ll high tale it to one of the nice parts of Latin America (they do exist).

          • TruthTeller

            I don’t think it will come to that and I don’t want it to come to that. I don’t consider you an enemy.

          • positron1

            I appreciate that. I don’ t toward you either, I’m actually interested in your (in the sense of “ustedes”) opinions. Hopefully you’re right and there won’t be a race war, but should it come to that I need to know where my family stands.

            Anyway, I recently tried to get a liberal white normie to at least try reading articles on unz.com to get a different perspective than the MSM. He immediately bolted upon reading somewhere that Ron Unz may have once donated money to a some organization that could be considered “white nationalist.” It’s a very sad state of affairs when white people immediately shut down at the mere thought of looking out for their own good in any way.

          • TruthTeller

            Yes it’s utterly amazing that guys like him have been so perfectly conditioned that they refuse to take their own side in anything. Meanwhile EVERY other racial group has unabashed solidarity and loyalty. The sickness is so great with cowards like him that I really believe he’d rather die than be thought a “racist”.

          • positron1

            Exactly. I hate the word “racism” because I think of it as just a weapon of the left to batter their opposition into conformity. That said, my gauge as to whether something is inappropriately “racist” for a white person is to imagine the general reaction if a black or Latino were to do the same thing. The answer is almost always that it would be just fine.

          • TruthTeller

            The double standard is indeed glaring and enraging.

          • TruthTeller

            I understand well that “you” can be singular or plural by the way. LoL Of course nowadays you have to unfortunately assume that people don’t know these things.

          • Evolver1

            Go to the Star Wars Bar. Should awakened Whites ever have a pure White homeland again, there will still be non-White nations and even brackish nations where you will fit right in.

          • positron1

            Have you seen any of the trailers for the Gunslinger? Whereas in the book the main character is pretty obviously white, in the movie he’s black and Flagg is white. I’m not a hardcore WN, but even I notice that kind of thing and shake my head.

            Hopefully if you guys take power and force my family out there will still be countries like Costa Rica out there.

          • John Golt

            I don’t want a race war I just think it’s probably going to happen. My kid is also mixed. Had her before I became “redpilled” and it really is a bummer for her. Noone on my family accepts her because she’s not white enough and no one out on the Rez accepts her because she’s not native enough. I think promoting white identity doesn’t have to be about hatred or violence. Maybe we could just stop with all the white guilt and incentivize white people to have more babies? Minor things like that could have a huge effect. Drug test people for welfare benefits and have them only last for awhile instead of for life. Small tiny changes that could fix our country. If we ended affirmative action then white people and asians would naturally become the most successful people and our government, legal system, and medical system would be a lot better off as well.

    • I was allways against ANY FORM of race mixing, not nation-mixing though considering some parameters. Now I saw why race-mixing should be avoided: it is bad for the mind too. It is sad to see such a man not wanting to care at all for his own people, as anything else but individuals!

      • TruthTeller

        It comes down to the inability of some men to refrain from pursuing sexual desires into a no-go zone. I am no Tom Brady but I live in a diverse cesspool and have had several what would be considered very attractive Latinas who wanted me. I didn’t bite because I knew that there would be no way I’d be able to have nonwhite children.

        • Evolver1

          We have free will to choose good or evil. For Whites to choose non-Whites to mate with is evil. It pollutes our White genome and steals our essential Whiteness and hijacks our White sperm and our White eggs to make non-Whites. It turns us into non-White baby factories.

          It’s a little like SciFi movies where space aliens use humans to reproduce more space aliens. The difference is that miscegenation with non-Whites really does happen and it really does reproduce more non-Whites using us as the necessary chemical ingredient to do so.

        • positron1

          Well, not exactly no way. I’m of almost 100% Scandinavian and English descent. My wife is a dark-skinned Latina with a thick accent when she speaks English, and our baby is lily white, whiter than me actually, to the point that people here in Central America often comment on how “blanquita” she is. Our landlady was holding her once and commented that “this one has no Indian blood.”

          Relax, we got married years ago, long before I’d ever thought about all this race realism stuff.

          • ThomasER916

            Race isn’t just skin color.

          • positron1

            I agree, but on the other hand, race isn’t everything. Latin America has its problems, oh so many problems, but some things are actually superior here. For example, you’d have a hard time finding a Salvadoran or Honduran who wouldn’t consider a man who believes he’s a woman mentally ill. That kind of talk will get you socially ostracized or worse among the white population of much of the USA.

          • TruthTeller

            Socially ostracized? Do you think that’s a concern of anyone here who is committed to his race? I relish the opportunity to tell anyone who’s interested what I think about any particular racial issue. I’ve lost several normie friends who couldn’t handle my views and I couldn’t care less. The more it happened, the easier it became, and now it is a source of amusement. I have more respect for posters here whom I’ve never met than those pathetic drones who are influenced by “fashionable” (nod to WLP) trends and peer pressure.

          • KilltheBank

            Ive no time for cunty cucks.
            If they take issue with my beliefs then we werent even friends to begin with.

          • Evolver1

            You’re mistaken. Race, and by this I mean the genome that makes races different, IS everything that matters. All else flows from this either in the short run or the long run of history.

            Whites are on an evolutionary trajectory different from other races and it will eventually lead to Whites being a separate species IF gene flow is stopped and we don’t blend in with darker humanity.

            You have already accepted gene flow from darker humanity into your family line by your unwise mating choice. This takes you off the White evolutionary trajectory.

            Your family forward from you is now on the metaphorical road back to Africa as your family blends back in with darker humanity.

          • TruthTeller

            No offense but I wouldn’t advise any white to procreate with your nonwhite child.

          • positron1

            I’m not offended. I don’t really do offended. I’m just interested in the whole topic. Some of you white nationalists seem almost as deluded as the SJWs at times, then on the other hand, you sometimes make some good points.

            Are you working in the US? If so, how do you manage to stay employed? Just hide your views on race at work?

          • TruthTeller

            I don’t work in the US. When I did, I didn’t socialize with anyone. You mentioned “social ostracism”. In my personal interactions I will give my opinion if someone wants it. I don’t have a ton of trusted friends. I’ve lost some acquaintances who didn’t like my views and in one case it went the other way. I abruptly stopped seeing a white woman who disagreed with me on affirmative action.

          • TruthTeller

            What specifically is “deluded” about anything I’ve said? Being staunchly against race mixing is pretty basic on these forums.

          • positron1

            I didn’t mean you specifically. You said in another post that my interest in race relations is academic. That’s not exactly right, but I certainly don’t feel the visceral repulsion at race mixing that most WNs do. I’m more in Heartiste and Matt Forney’s camp. Both are generally opposed but have given it their blessing if you’re in love and not doing it to be trendy.

            As far as deluded WNs, by way of example I once asked a spergy WN to provide evidence that mixed race children are mentally unstable. He snarkily replied by simply posting a picture of Elliot Rodgers, literally the only mass murder I can think of who was mixed race, unless I missed that Adam Lanza, James Holmes, and Seung-Hui Cho were mixed.

            In addition, I find it odd and comical to have WNs call me a cuck when the only time I’ve literally been cuckolded was be my blond and blue eyed ex-wife.

          • Evolver1

            You were probably called a cuck because you have mated with a non-White and are now raising a non-White child. That is one of the main definitions of being a cuck in the sense that many of us who are awakened use it.

          • positron1

            I much prefer being this kind of cuck (happy with my life and with a beautiful, feminine wife who believes feminism is satanic) to being an actual cuck in the dictionary sense.

          • TruthTeller

            Minor point: (I’m speaking about the white men that I know who are with nonwhite spouses.) None of them did it to be trendy. They did it because they found a woman who accepted them and don’t have a concept of racial loyalty. The notion that people do it to be “trendy” seems far-fetched. I have never had any interest in the first one and what I’ve read from Forney had no value at all.

          • positron1

            It seems to me that for some people, particularly women, virtue signaling is a big part of getting into mixed race relationships.

          • TruthTeller

            OK, in the case of women you might be on to something. I have read that some of these sheltered white sluts think it’s fucking cool to screw niggers when they go off to college. So fucking foul.

          • positron1

            I’ve heard the claim the German and Swedish women feel that they have to sleep with Africans and Muslims to prove their non-racist credentials. That’s the kind of thing I oppose.

          • TruthTeller

            Yes I’m very tired right now so I think you’re on to something the more I think about it. What a pathetic reason…all part of the conditioning. A white’s greatest aspiration in this cesspool culture is to show how much s/he doesn’t favor his own race.

          • TruthTeller

            It seems to me that your interest in race realism is academic: you’re curious about the science of race and you’re willing to go where the data lead. You don’t seem committed to this on a visceral, emotional level. This I believe is something that you either feel in your gut or you don’t. At the age of 12 I could have told you that the idea of race mixing is anathema.

          • Harry Savannah

            “…as deluded as the SJWs….”

            You’re offended alright.

          • positron1

            If it makes you happy to think so, go on I suppose. You’re behaving like a woman though.

          • Harry Savannah

            Woman? Lol. What dark corner of your mind did that emerge from?

          • positron1

            It’s a frequent female shit test. “You’re upset.” “No I’m not” “No, I can’t tell that you’re upset” and she keeps it up until you actually are upset, if you let her.

            You’re fueling my suspicion that you WN guys who obsess most about who other guys choose to bed have little if any experience with women of any color.

          • Harry Savannah

            Hilarious. The more you open that ridiculous mouth of yours, the more “offended” you show yourself to be. And by the way, to address another point – you’re just plain FOS

          • positron1

            It’s not going to work, honey.

          • Harry Savannah

            Just go away perverse race-mixer.

          • positron1

            Relax. Just poking fun at your hysterical, effeminate mannerisms. Thought you were clever enough to get that. You’ll be all right.

          • Harry Savannah

            Lol. Who do you think you’re fooling with your “point-and-sputter” delusions? What everyone can really see here is that you’ve revealed yourself to be a homo . I’m “relaxed” you’re not within miles of me.

          • positron1

            Think that if you wish, I suppose, but I imagine you’re projecting and struggling with some same sex attractions issues (I wasn’t the one who thought of gay sex, that was you). I didn’t particularly enjoy smacking you down, but you jumped into a cordial discussion looking for a fight with womanly tactics so I had to.

            Are you a Richard Spencer fan? He’s made some conciliatory remarks toward homosexuals. It’s not necessary to hate them to be a WN, or be ashamed if you really are struggling with attraction toward other men.

          • Harry Savannah

            “…smacking you down….”

            Like I said, you’re delusional. And your prolix comments suggest you to be a tedious bore. As a Christian I must apologize, however, for the likely slanderous remark I made concerning you. I extend my apology, requesting your pardon.

          • positron1

            Slanderous remarks? I hadn’t really noticed. You jumped in on what was once and interesting and informative conversation looking for a fight. That was annoying, but hey, it’s the Internet. You’re one among millions of people who do that kind of thing, unfortunately. Anyway, no offense taken. I apologize too. You might not actually struggle with same sex attraction, although you do seem to think about gay sex more than is healthy, and to be hiding some kind of shame about it, but like I said, there are gay white nationalists out there, as far as I know. Regardless, you do strike me as someone with very little experience with women or whomever he is attracted to, which I imagine is miserable. Try to improve yourself, try to achieve things in life so that you’ll have more to be proud of than your skin color. You’ll find you do better with the ladies or whomever you’re into, too.

          • Harry Savannah

            Let me make one final attempt to give some advice to a very callow, presumptuous and laughably self-serving young man. As a married man of 42 years and with well over a dozen grandchildren I think I am in a position to instruct you. First, no one here cares about your personal notions about race-mixing. Other than to make a comment or two in reply to you on a WN blog. Also, your adolescent arrogance and recklessness of thought and speech (writing) will not serve you well going forward. A word to the wise should be sufficient. Good luck.

          • positron1

            I’m actually several years older than you. I was involved in an interesting and cordial conversation before you jumped in looking for a fight. Stop doing that if you want to be mature and avoid getting smacked around.

            I don’t know if struggling with homosexuality or some other form of sexual frustration is what makes you behave as you do, it’s just my best guess based on closet cases and guys who can’t get women who I’ve known.

          • Harry Savannah

            There are drugs for mental cases that repeat themselves. Have your guardian look into it. You badly need a good medication. I just want to help, my elderly friend.

          • positron1

            You’re being passive aggressive now, another womanly trait. I’ll keep pointing out that you shouldn’t jump into conversations looking for a fight if you don’t want to get smacked around if you keep coming back for more.

          • Harry Savannah

            There’s that compulsive repetition again, including delusions and bizarre notions. Very sad to see a troubled person, especially an elderly one, not see that they have a mental illness. There is help for you if only you would recognize your need and seek such help. I urge you to do so.

          • positron1

            You know, you’re right. It is crazy to keep trying the same thing and expect a different result. I’m really just annoyed with you for derailing what was an enjoyable and informative conversation. Otherwise I wouldn’t have pointed out or even noticed probably that you exhibit signs of sexual frustration. It’s common in guys who marry early and never develop any ability or experience with women, as it is with closet cases. Whichever you are, I don’t envy you.

            Anyway, let’s call a truce. You leave me to my “insanity” I’ll leave you to whatever it is you’re dealing with. Deal?

          • Harry Savannah

            “…let’s call a truce.”

            Well, sure. I’m a peaceable man, one of goodwill.

            “You leave me to my ‘insanity’….”

            You’re a little hard on yourself I would say. Ridiculous? Yes. A poor example of a human being? It is clear from your degenerate remarks. But I never said you were insane – just another example, I believe, of your decrepit cast-of-mind. As for “derailing” some “conversation” you insist you were having, I should point out that this is perhaps the fourth time you have complained about such. Hate to say it but – there you go again. But let me point out the patently obvious – THERE IS A “REPLY” FEATURE in this section and it is for ANYONE WHO WISHES TO “JUMP” IN. I’m sure you would agree with these basic facts, no? I think I employed less than 10 words in my initial “jump in” liberty. And the remark was quite mild, was it not? And yet you were very apparently badly triggered. Which is accounted for by your ridiculousness, no doubt. Though your other nasty traits would explain the same IMHO. But…generous soul that I am, I agree, as I’ve said, to your offer of “truce.” And again, good luck, old timer.

          • positron1

            I’ll leave you to your projections.

          • Harry Savannah

            derp

          • Evolver1

            Right. When humans mate, each partner supplies approximately half of their genome to a new child.

            This half can be further defined as approximately 1.5 billion combinations of our DNA code, containing approximately 10,000 genes and 23 chromosomes. The new child then ends up with appx. 3 billion combos of the the DNA code, appx 20,000 genes and 46 chromosomes. There is more to this of course, involving dominant vs. recessive genes, etc. but the point is that a White who miscegenates cannot produce a fully White child with any non-White. The child will always carry about half of the non-White genetic material and it may be silent [read not readily seen], but it is there.

            It’s like replacing a battery with certain characteristics with one that has different characteristics. They are simply not the same, even if, as positron 1 says, they may look similar.

          • Evolver1

            So, your family line forward from you is non-White. You have changed the trajectory of your family from your self described “almost 100% Scandinavian and English [read 100% White] to non-White. You have not chosen wisely.

          • ALostSoul

            Latina is a broad term that generally describes brown people south of the US border. These ‘brown’ people can range in their genetic makeup to mostly European (in the case of many Puerto Ricans) to Africans (Hondurans) to Ameridians (tribes in the Amazonian rain forest) and everything in between. It’s very plausible that your wife has a significant amount of European component to her DNA that is masked by her darker traits. Because chromosomes are randomly assorted during the production of gamete cells its likely your child received a higher proportion of your wife’s European chromosomes vs the non-European ones. Randomly assorted chromosomes is why siblings look different from each other despite both inheriting the exact same genetic percentage from their parents.

          • epleguy

            In 10 years she will be much darker. When she’s all grown up, she’ll be alien looking.

          • positron1

            Any evidence, Fritz? I live in one of the most indigenous parts of Latin America. You still see locals as light as my daughter sometimes.

          • epleguy

            You said your wife is dark skinned. Your daughter will become the same as time pass.

          • positron1

            I read English. I asked you for evidence.

          • positron1

            It doesn’t work that way, though. You see families down here with varying skin tones between members including children lighter than parents all the time. If you’d actually been anywhere or learned anything about the rest of the world you’d know that. I realize you are of the ilk that will bitterly argue that the sky is green and feel confident you’re right, though.

          • epleguy

            This must have hit you really hard since you came back after two months. Bless.

          • positron1

            Just noticed it.

    • marijan

      Ok he’s officially just a faggot who doesn’t like antifa. Doesn’t make him a hero, just makes him have common sense which isn’t much

    • Jarod

      Wow…

      Not man enough to get a White woman so he marries a bag of rice and starts counter-signalling us…

      • TruthTeller

        I give him a ton of credit. What he did took courage. But yeah, the lecture wasn’t necessary.

      • positron1

        Who knows, maybe he used to be married to a neo-Nazi’s wet dream with blond hair, blue eyes, and an angel’s face but she turned out to be a materialistic harpy who is unclear on the concept of monogamy. That’s my story, and now I’m with a dark-skinned Latina who is the opposite of that. Ironically, you’ll probably call me a cuck.

        • Jarod

          Cuck.

          But seriously, you’ve joined the ranks of Stick Man, Paul Joseph Watson and the others; You’ve married down.

          Your Latina married up so it’s no wonder she’s loyal to you.

          • positron1

            People like you make me strongly suspect I’m in far better company.

          • Evolver1

            No, you’re on the road to the genocide of your family.

          • positron1

            If you are my family, I think I’ll be able to somehow pick up the pieces and go on with my life when you are gone.

          • Evolver1

            Ah, no, I am not your family. And, you are no longer one of my people. You have chosen unwisely. When you die, your White family line that would have proceeded from you, had you chosen wisely, will also be dead.

          • positron1

            I think I’ll be all right. Maybe you can find my ex. She’s still out there. Hypergamous as they come and with quite a notch count by now. She is blond though. She’s got that going for her.

          • Evolver1

            So, a bad experience with a White woman has turned you against White women.

            You simply made a poor choice in that instance and now you’ve made another poor choice with your non-White wife.

            You may be happy with your choice of a non-White woman, but life is short and you are now a broken link in the chain leading to you from your 100% White ancestors and the future. With you, just as with JEB Bush, your White family line is turning non-White. This is bedroom genocide of the White genome.

          • positron1

            Relax man. I’m going to be OK and you probably will be too.

          • Evolver1

            Life is short. What continues on is our genome. In it, we live, if we have chosen wisely and have made more like ourselves. If we have not made more like ourselves, we end.

          • positron1

            “If we have not made more like ourselves, we end.”

            I don’t know if it’s possible for you to understand how insane you sound. Words (cuckold, end, wisdom) mean the exact opposite of what they actually mean to you. When I married my wife I made a conscious decision to have my genetic line NOT end. I was 40, had a ton of money saved up after working in her country for a few years, and I’d planned on surfing in Central America until it got warm in Europe, then heading back there. I speak several languages and I enjoy exotic women and living anywhere but North America and could have continued my life of travel and gaming girls, but I realized I’d be unlikely to find another traditional girl who was a virgin when I met her.

            Maybe it’s a lack of experience with women that allows you to pedastilize white women like you do. I notice that the spergy WNs like you tend to be socially awkward and not have much, if any, experience with women.

        • TruthTeller

          Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. I did too.

    • Evola-Chan

      lol he thinks the dank black guy in a Trump hat isn’t going to rape and murder his children as long as he votes for magic soil nationalism

      • ALostSoul

        In all fairness, I doubt the black guy in a Trump hat is going to be rapist and murderer. I would be more worried about his children or grandchildren however. Regression to the mean, ya know.

      • Ike35

        Fuckin Based!!

    • He’s correct.

      • Crud Bonemeal

        He’s wrong that promoting a multi-racial civic nationalism based on a blended America would be good for our descendants.

        They’d come to resemble dysgenic tri-racial Latin American favela dwellers.

        If WN fails then America is not worth saving, American Nationalism is nonsensical and smart people should be looking to escape from the third world American future.

        • Evolver1

          Our nation, our religion, our civilization, our culture is within our White DNA code. It is our White DNA code that should be the focus of our loyalty and allegiance. And, if we hold an allegiance to a land or a nation, those things must be ALL White and not mixed.

      • Rascal

        > Whites, you better support the very thing that is going to kill you off in the long run.

        The guy is a meat head.

    • AJ

      Kind of fishy. Those are familiar talking points. Seems like a Jewish guy trying to demoralize us.

    • Vincent Law

      Very nice find. “Don’t speak up or you’ll end up getting hurt.” Based indeed.

    • Bruce Regael

      It was pretty clear once it was discovered he had a non-white partner and offspring that it would lead him to this conclusion. It’s always the same. The laughable liberal framework that has taken over libertarians and conservatives aside, when someone is invested in this blended society they will never stand for any agenda that furthers their groups best interest. I’ve heard on Red Ice and other places that there are mixed couples who agree with our standpoints, but it should be noted that they will never fully support it because it puts their future in jeopardy should we be successful. It’s individualism taking priority over the group interest and despite showing some in-group identity it shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Once your committed to the system as it is now you’re bound to it on some level even if it leads to your groups destruction.

      I do feel empathy for those that bought into this utopia world sold to them over the past 60 years, I really do, but at the end of the day this is about survival. Taking a look at whats happening across the world this isn’t some joke. There isn’t more time. We don’t have the luxury of taking soft positions anymore. There is no easy solution. It isn’t a problem we necessarily created, but one we most certainly inherited. If better men were born in the past and couldn’t solve the problem that means we’re going to have to find a way to be better men than this nation has ever produced. That means our WILL has to be iron clad and resilient. There is only victory. Half-measures are not acceptable and if it leads to conflict than so be it. A peaceful solution would be ideal, but we prepare for war nonetheless.

      We will win with time and persistence. You’re going to have to kill us all to stop it, and if the communists tried and failed then what makes you think you’ll be anymore successful? Victory is ours. Accept it and negotiate now or you guarantee it on our terms.

    • He married an Asian. I’m sure she made him say that.

    • LyovMyshkin

      So basically his views are no different than BIll Clinton. Be nice and inclusive now or we’ll get it in the future.

      Based AF.

    • David Crockett

      Whites will be the largest group for longer than just another 40 years. They count Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, etc…as 1 group of people? I’d like to see those groups try to agree on anything.

    • Ike35

      Well that’s it for this one folks. He’s done a full monty cuck. Greg Johnson is right, all these alt-lite cucks are either diaspora jews or white race mixers. It never takes these assholes long to punch right that’s for damn sure. Fuck’em. Their naive blather isn’t good enough and they apparently want no help from us. Fine with me Kyle, your position has been dutifully noted and you’ll get no help from we white nationalists, I solemnly swear to that.

    • Dr. James Russel, PhD

      Chapman is public enough that he’d have to disavow white supremacy to keep most of the support he has, its best to ignore comments like these and move on. Not everyone can swallow the redpill all the way.

    • millermp1

      How does he rationalize the success of Israel? Clearly it can be done. Or maybe he thinks that ethnostate, too, is on the brink of collapse, but i wouldn’t bet on it.

    • John Golt

      Wow be good goys or they’ll genocide you. Umm were the people in South Africa not nice enough? Is Germany too intolerant for this cuck? We tried multiculturalism and it failed. White birth rates can go back up if you stopped taxing the white people to death to prop up the welfare state so minorities can have 8 kids on our dime. What a piece of shit. This article was far too nice to him.

  • Laguna Beach Fogey

    This is for the Asian fetishists…

    Asian savages (mostly Chinese) rioting in Paris against the French state:

    https://www.rt.com/news/382557-china-summons-france-citizen-death/

  • Urbanus_II

    Racial idolatry; the essence of the Alt White.

    • Crud Bonemeal

      Race is real and it matters. All human behavioral traits are heritable.

      And they vary significantly between human population groups.

      If whites are replaced with other groups the civilization that we built will not continue.

      • Urbanus_II

        That doesn’t address anything I said.

        • invincible white owl

          Elaborate: what IS important (in your view), & what is its proper context?

        • Rascal

          So what is important and what is the proper context in your opinion?

          • Urbanus_II

            You inspired me to write an entire OP on it. Here. Tell me where you think I’m wrong. Have at it.

          • Rascal

            White people made Christianity great, not the other way around. White people wrote the philosophical and legal literature in the Greek civilization that is still studied today. The people are the common denominator in everything regarding Western civilization. White people are the roots, and Christianity/Greek Philosophy are the flowers.

            That post sounds like constitution (paper) worship to me.

          • Urbanus_II

            Interesting, since I didn’t once mention any constitution, let alone the United States Constitution. What are doing is secularizing Christianity to conform to your own racial prejudices. Inherent to Christianity is repentance; the only solution available. We should learn from the disastrous 20th century rather than repeat the same mistakes. It’s unclear where you stand, but I think I’m close to figuring it out.

          • Rascal

            I know you didn’t mention the constitution, I meant to convey that your post looks like ones written by constitutionalists that think that the constitution was presented to colonial Americans through some sort of act of God, instead of it being a product of their inherent humanity.

            The point is, if the constitution, Catholicism, Greek philosophy were all be wiped out or otherwise destroyed tomorrow, it may eventually be recreated by the people that created it in the first place. If you wipe out all Europeans, well, good luck recreating these documents and ideals without the very people that birthed them in the first place.

            Same with a flower. IF you destroy the bloomed petals they will grow back, if you destroy the roots the flower will never grow again.

          • Urbanus_II

            I agree with much of that. Without the European people there wouldn’t be Western Civilization, at least not as anything we know it to be today. The European people have the right to defend their nations. I’m not disagreeing with that either. What I am saying is that these are all temporal goods and should not be confused with the source of all Truth and Value.

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            The source of all “Truth and Value” is not Christianity, that’s for sure. (Western) Christianity has some pleasantly familiar and heartwarming cultural features, but when you get down to it, it’s as man-made as any other religion.

          • Urbanus_II

            The source of all Truth and Value is God.

          • silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

            Even ‘God’ is man-made.

          • Urbanus_II

            On that we disagree.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            Absolutely. Hebrew/Israelite Christianity is much different than Western European Christianity. For example, compare the Coptic’s to the Northern European Christians.

          • Rascal

            So what is the source of all Truth and value? I just did a word search in your tldr post and found none of those words. For me the source of value is people, while truth is a bit harder to define, it ultimately ends up leading to prosperity and survival of people and reflects their experiences.

            Easy, precise, and clear. I find your explanation far more murky, no offense.

          • Urbanus_II

            God.

          • Rascal

            How about your children (assuming you have them), are they the source of any value?

          • Urbanus_II

            No human being is the source of value, rather the dignity of the human person is rooted in his creation in the image and likeness of God. If I had children it would be my duty to protect them and defend them within proper moral constraints. It is perfectly reasonable to love your own children more than the children of others. Human beings simply do not have the capacity to love everyone equally. Not sure if that is what you were trying to get at, but I could see it going there.

          • Rascal

            That is the problem with identifying sources of value, and why there is no absolute morality in my opinion. My kid is the single largest representation, or source of value in my life. She is the most valuable thing to me. Do I expect others to agree with this? Of course not. There are others that abort their own kids, let alone care about mine.

            It is far easier to get a group of people to objectively agree that kids are in general important, than it is to get them to agree to the absolute morality of this ideal.

          • Urbanus_II

            If the source of value is people as you say, are you suggesting some kind of ethno-relativism? Do you deny the existence of absolute and objective morality? Just trying to clarify your position.

          • Rascal

            Yes, I object the existence of an absolute morality. First, they don’t exist, second, they can conflict with survival. Not to say that I don’t wish an absolute morality existed, but it doesn’t.

          • Urbanus_II

            Are you suggesting nihilism or some kind of relative morality?

          • Rascal

            I would suggest an objective morality based on the reality of the age. A lot can change over the course of 10 years, let alone 2 thousand.

          • Urbanus_II

            Interesting. What comes to mind is some form of consequentialism.

          • Rascal

            That is a rather concise way of putting it. In another age I would have been a devout Catholic and joined their crusades to free the holy lands. In this age I am not a devout Catholic because the pope kisses the feet of Muslim invaders.

          • Urbanus_II

            The truth of the matter does not concern you? It appears that what matters to you is what is expedient to your own particular goals.

          • Rascal

            The truth is, the pope, the leader of the Catholic church, washes and kisses the feet of invading Muslims. How can I objectively align with a person who protects those that wish to do harm to the most valuable thing in my life, my child? This would go against not only the reality of this age, but very nature itself.

          • Urbanus_II

            Because the Catholic Church is the One, True, Apostolic Church and guided by the Holy Spirit. The Pope is the successor of Saint Peter. We have a moral obligation to obey the authority of the Church. I know this is difficult for the liberal mind to fathom. In the liberal mind we are all are own authority in our own personal domain. Liberalism cannot be tamed, it cannot be moderated or arbitrarily restricted; it must be completely rejected from its foundation.

            If you haven’t guessed yet, from my username you should know how I feel about invading Muslims. I disagree with many of your most fundamental positions, but I have enjoyed this conversation. You’ve been respectful and very reasonable through out this discussion. I cannot say the same for many commentators.

          • Rascal

            I am not a liberal. While I do not answer directly to a church, especially one currently led by a pro Muslim communist (make Catholicism great again), I have to answer to my people. I will have to look in my child’s eyes when she is a stranger in the land of her birth right and tell her how and why this happened.

            Same to you. I try to be reasonable, but sometimes I fail. Besides, in the end I don’t really have a problem with someone like you when in most scenarios we would be sharing a fox hole, figuratively or literally.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            You username is nearly “Ur Anus the 2nd ” and there are no liberals here, sir.

          • Urbanus_II

            Chances are you are a historically ignorant liberal.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            “Nearly”

          • Urbanus_II

            Chances are you don’t know who Urbanus II is or what the heck Uranus is. I’d help you, but I don’t think you’d follow.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            How Christlike.

          • Urbanus_II

            I can also help you with the etymology of liberalism.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            I’m sure you know plenty about liberalism.

          • Strogg

            >etimology of liberalism

            Let me guess, if you’re not Christian you’re a liberal? This seems to be the meme in the ”alt-christian” circles. Same false equivalence tactic Rational Skeptics™ use against their WN opponents – ”You’re just like SJW’s with your identity politics!!!”

          • Urbanus_II

            Not exactly, but your moving in the right direction. I’ll use socialism and fascism as an example. They are often thought of as being polar opposites, but they are competing ideologies within the same species. Mussolini was a student of Marx and devout socialist, but he realized that people didn’t really identify as abstract workers, but instead identified with their nation. If socialism was going to be a reality, so he thought, it was not going to happen globally, but within the nation. This made him an enemy of the socialist and thus “right-wing”. It’s still unclear to me whether the SJW and the Alt White are two sides of the same coin. I’ll guess we’ll see how things develop.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            Chances are you’re a histrionic atheist.

          • Evolver1

            Implicit in your Christian belief system is a universal morality that fails to recognize the genetic differences of different peoples.

            This is anti-nature and against the will of nature’s God whose laws are written in nature all around us.

            Your basic faith is a form of perverse humanism and is not from God. It is a cafeteria style belief system that worships a dead Jew who was simply one of many Jews who have made up various self-help and or philosophical systems (ex: Ayn Rand, b. Alisa Rosenbaum/Werner Erhard, b. John Rosenberg).

            While there are universal moral truths, there are also particular moral truths and it is this latter category that Christianity fails to fully understand and as a result the Jewish Cult of Christianity is harmful to Whites and White survival.

          • Urbanus_II

            Implicit in your Christian belief system is a universal morality that fails to recognize the genetic differences of different peoples.

            Incorrect.

          • Evolver1

            Let’s learn a little more about your beliefs. If you have a chance to save ten Black Christians or just one White who is a pagan or an atheist or who belongs to a non-Christian White faith, but you can only save the ten Black Christians or the one White non-Christian, who would you save? And, why?

          • Urbanus_II

            Get lost. I don’t play silly games with morons.

          • Evolver1

            We see you. Say, the Bible says to kill Homosexuals. How do you feel about that?

          • Urbanus_II

            Yawn.

          • Evolver1

            I’ll assume arguendo and at least for the moment that you are White and that you are on this site because you honestly believe that you have White interests at heart. If my two assumptions are correct, good.

            However, and as can be seen by your angry non-answers to my two questions above, your earlier veneer of politeness is suddenly dropped and you strike out verbally when faced with a couple of moral dilemmas involving religion/race and what your Bible says about homosexuals. This is a textbook example of cognitive dissonance as you try to reconcile mutually contradictory beliefs. It’s also a good example of finding out what makes you tick via word associations.

            If you put Christianity before Whiteness, you would rescue the ten Black Christians and let the White pagan drown. If you put Whiteness before Christianity, you would let the ten Black Christians drown and you’d rescue the White pagan.

            And, if you hold your Bible to be the infallible word of God (an assertion you have not directly made, but your other answers seem to indicate you may have that belief) you are faced with either accepting what is written in the Bible about homosexuality or following what is trendy today concerning homosexuality.

            So, are you a Christian first or a White first?

            And, are you intolerant towards homosexuals as the Bible dictates or do you ignore what is not now acceptable in society (hatred of homosexuals) and go with what’s happening now? Or, to put it more plainly: Do you follow your Bible, or whatever is current in society?

          • Urbanus_II

            I will engage in reasoned debate with those willing to do so. However, I don’t think you care about the dialectic process nor do I believe you are asking questions in good faith. All I will say is that we have a moral obligation to obey the magisterium of the Catholic Church. I’ll let you reason through your own questions based on that fact alone. I think you’re capable, but I won’t hold my breath.

          • Evolver1

            It’s clear that you aren’t able or willing to rationally resolve the two hypothetical moral dilemmas that I set up, and you’re not alone, as many other Whites are also in that position. However, I’m not here to badger you personally. Your comments and your positions simply gave me a jumping off place to make some points.

            I’m also not here to debate just to debate. I visit this site and some similar ones with the thought in mind that perhaps, in some small way, I might be able to express why White survival is important and what it actually means and to possibly use a turn of phrase or offer a slightly different perspective that might cause some others to either see the light or to investigate and study and in doing so understand.

            I generally try to stay away from insulting the religious views of other Whites, and try to be respectful of these other Whites–not because of their religious views, but because they are White and it is Whiteness that is the most important thing to me.

            I try to give Whites the benefit of the doubt, even if I think they may be mistaken in their views–after all, they too carry the White genome and it is this that ensures our survival no matter what they or I believe or think. They are my White brothers and sisters and I have no brothers and sisters who are not White.

            My main thrust, as already indicated above, is usually not to harshly take on various religious beliefs as such. Instead, it is to try to gently point out the error in thinking that some Whites have in putting secondary things such as “culture,” “civilization,” “Western Man,” “society,” “conservatism,” “Americanism,” and, yes, “religion,” etc. in front of Whiteness.

            And, this post is already far too long, so I’ll just end it at this point instead of writing a complete book about this here. Stay White in all ways. It is how we shall survive.

          • Urbanus_II

            The hypothetical dilemmas are easily resolved. I’m reluctant to engage in discussion with people I feel are trolling or throwing out “gotcha” questions. You may possibly be interested in an actual discussion, so I’ll play along. The answer to your question is easy: you save ten people (assuming no intrinsically evil act is committed in the process).

            Instead, it is to try to gently point out the error in thinking that some Whites have in putting secondary things such as “culture,” “civilization,” “Western Man,” “society,” “conservatism,” “Americanism,” and, yes, “religion,” etc. in front of Whiteness.

            This is a point of view that makes no sense to me. The most important thing is Truth. If you want to know how I feel about, read about it here.

          • Evolver1

            Where are you and your genes in the concept “truth?”

          • Urbanus_II

            Your question is incoherent. Formulate a well defined proposition and then maybe we can proceed.

          • Evolver1

            Well, there it is. You would save the Blacks and not the White. Very sad choice for the survival of Whites. Clearly, you are not pro-White. This puts you beyond the pale for me. Shouldn’t you be over on some anti-White site?

          • Urbanus_II

            I already knew you were beyond the pale – an enemy of Christ, truth, Western Civilization and the European people.

          • Evolver1

            Very silly comment from a person who would save Blacks over Whites.

            That’s not something I would ever do. You put loyalty in secondary things, not what is absolutely primary and essential to who and what we are. Long before Christianity, Western Civilization or European nations, we were. And these secondary things you wrongly put before our White genome are products of our White genome, not the other way around. You are an enemy of White people and have shown by your answer that you would save Blacks over Whites that your priorities are upside down. Of course, it may be that you are actually not a fully White person. Is that it?

          • Urbanus_II

            You’re too intectually short to ride this train. Go back to your cave.

          • Evolver1

            Here for those who may not have followed this whole thread is Urbanus ll’s reply to my question about whether he would save ten Black Christians rather than one White pagan (or White atheist, etc.) if he could only save the Blacks or the White:

            “The answer to your question is easy: you save ten people [Blacks] (assuming no intrinsically evil act is committed in the process).[and not the White]”

            You will note that he tries to sidestep the term Blacks and instead uses “humans.”

            Does Urbanus ll sound pro-White to you? He doesn’t sound that way to me. FYI [ ] in Urbanus ll’s sentence quoted above is my clarification of what he is saying.

          • Urbanus_II

            You will note that he tries to sidestep the term Blacks and instead uses “humans.”

            The Alt White must be scientifically illiterate.

          • Urbanus_II

            Stay White in all ways.

            Is tanning allowed?

  • Chapman is by Asian-Aryan definition a “new-cuck.” He needs to seriously get yellow-pilled.

  • TruthTeller

    Very reasonable piece, Nathan.

  • Man of White Skin

    Another race-mixing cuck. Fuck him.

  • Rascal

    Good article Nathan, good to see you contributing to this site. I will be hard on civic nationalists that speak out against White interests, because they are too dumb to realize that they need our active participation more than we need their broken ideology. Shit like this almost makes me hope Trump loses to destroy this fantasy once and for all.

  • Krafty Wurker

    Just remember this, a lot of people will do anything to get on TV and in the newspapers.

  • richard garyson

    Am I the only one who thinks it’s awesome that people are now deleting “anti-racist” comments, for fear offending the Alt Right?

    • Yehudah Finkelstein

      Comment of the thread. In 2014, Chapman would have deleted a racist comment he made for fear of being seen as racist. The Tide is turning.

    • TruthTeller

      Keep pressing the issue. The Overton Window has to be moved a lot more.

    • Smash Islamophobia

      Damn. I didn’t even think of that. That’s right:
      Fear the wrath of almighty Kek!

    • Excellent point.

    • LyovMyshkin

      When we REEEEEEEE the whole world shakes! 🙂

    • Orson_23

      You’re absolutely correct.

      This is the most important takeaway from this situation.

      And it completely destroys the weak, “don’t attack fellow travelers” argument by Nathan Damigo.

      StickCuck deleted his post precisely because he was afraid of being attacked by the Alt-Right.

      If we support civic-Nationalists, instead of mercilessly attacking them, they have no reason to change their ideology.

      The meteoric rise of the Alt-Right has been due to our high-profile attacks on our ideologically enemies and the extreme social-pressure that we inflict on cucks and normies in order to force them to change their behavior.

      Baked Alaska even admitted that he finally joined the Alt-Right because of the merciless bullyciding that he received on Twitter from Alt-Right Shitlords.

      Only a tiny percentage of the population can be swayed by facts and reason.

      Most people’s ideology can only be changed through emotion, social-pressure, and force.

  • Cam

    Thomas Jefferson also had some choice words regarding the Negro in the “Laws” chapter of “Notes on the State of Virginia” …

    https://books.google.com/books?id=DTWttRSMtbYC&vq=euclid&pg=PA149#v=onepage&q&f=false

  • DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

    I find it hard to fault a White guy who entered a relationship with an East-Asian before becoming racially aware (not that Chapman seems to have any sort of White identity; this is kind of a tangential post). There are certainly some very attractive East-Asian women, and intelligence has always been a powerful independent attractant for me. I wouldn’t now even consider marrying a non-White of any sort, but most of us weren’t born White Nationalists – though I view with some contempt any White man who marries a Black woman.

    • ThomasER916

      Actually, Chapman’s halfu children and Asian wife are central to the problem. Of course he’s going to push the autism of civic nationalism. That’s a future and present he’s comfortable with. That future is a dead end for Whites. It means that Whites are miscegenated out of existence. Chapman will not move to a Negro neighborhood or send his children to Negro schools in his lifetime. However, he’s forcing all Whites to accept that as their future.

      • DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

        Oh, of course it’s not an acceptable model. I just can’t find it in myself to blame him too much for having made that mistake.

        • Jusqu’au Bout

          From what you say about Asian women… White women are obviously uglier and dumber. Are you sure you’re at the right website???

          • DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

            I don’t think that’s an obvious inference to draw from my post.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            How is writing: “…There are certainly some very attractive East-Asian women, and intelligence has always been a powerful independent attractant for me,” not saying that?

          • DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

            Really? Saying that there exist some very attractive East-Asian women implies that White women are uglier?

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            No, it means you’re confused.

          • DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

            I think you should work on your reading comprehension. In any event, a WN is perfectly capable of recognizing that smart, good-looking East-Asian women exist, while simultaneously believing that they should be in European countries or marrying White men.

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            Ah, you got me. Lol, I totally fell for your troll. Good one haha 😉

          • Jusqu’au Bout

            But all kidding aside, we are born enthocentrists. So, to say we’re not born “White Nationalists” is true but to say we’re not born to favor our own race is false.

          • Urbanus_II

            Don’t try to reason with these idiots. Dogs are more intelligent.

  • joe-boston

    White fathers need to have a talk with their sons and dissuade them from Asian women. They can certainly look very attractive when they are young but just wait till they reach about 40. They shrivel up like dried grapes. When a young man is in his 20’s, his 40’s and 50’s seem to far in the distance to even consider, but trust me; when you are in your 50’s you are still going to enjoy your sex life and no women age as well as White women.

    • Jusqu’au Bout

      White women are more attractive than any other race. Period. If young white men are attracted to Asian women there’s something else (psychological?) going on.

  • JohnK

    And morons gave money to this idiot. I saw right through him from the beginning. I feel sorry for those that gave him money, you got played by this cuck.

  • VictoryOrValhalla

    In all fairness, him being Alt-Lite doesn’t surprise me at all.
    He’s still a step above the common profligate, and antifa clearly has him pegged as a facist nazi so whether we like it or not he’ll be forced to our side when they start shooting “nazis” in the streets.
    And no, I’m not defending the half-breeds and miscegnation.

    • ))) Depeche Europa (((

      I completely agree with you…..

  • ))) Depeche Europa (((

    We all knew he wasn’t Alt-Right from the Start……

    ….when we saw his Asian Wife……

    But, I still donated to Wesearcher.com to help him……

    The Fact that he feels the need to attack us when many of us donated our own money to help him….

    …..shows that he’s Shady…….

    Oh, well…….

    He smashed some AntiFa Heads with a Wooden Pole…….

    It was worth the money I donated……

    But, I’m done donating to Wesearchr.com unless the Person is explicitly Alt-Right……

    We still need to find the person who attacked Richard Spencer…….

    • Jusqu’au Bout

      There definately needs to be a more rigorous investigation before asking the Altright community to put up money…

      • ))) Depeche Europa (((

        Agreed…..

  • Bannon Dale

    (((Hans Kohn)))

  • Antifeminazi

    He’s a piece of shit. DISAVOW.

  • John Snow

    He is selling out. That’s what you have to say to get in the lugenpresse . Nobody believes that shit. unless they are clinically retarded or have mental problems.

  • – TheFinn –

    Can someone explain to me how the 2nd amendment in America gives people the right to own guns in order to protect themselves against the government, however talk about violence against the government is still against the law. Don’t get me wrong, I get why this law exists in other countries, but the 2nd amendment kind of suggests that violence against the government is ok under certain circumstances, but you can’t discuss if those circumstances are happening right now?

    How would you organize the guns to be pointed in the right direction at the same time if nobody is allowed to say “And then we shoot them all.” ?

    Or am I completely misreading the idea behind this?

    • Rhino 🦏🥛🐸

      It’s a cultural taboo. It’s only a legal taboo if you speak specifically.

      • – TheFinn –

        Thanks for the replies!

        I have a much better understanding now I think.

    • Crud Bonemeal

      There are plenty of legal ways to discuss that kind of thing, read the case law, it’s only illegal under certain circumstances. Survivalist patriot blogs talk about it constantly.

      But white nationalists are targeted by law enforcement and should be very careful to avoid any talk of violence. The Alt-Right is very smart to avoid this sort of talk.

      It’s also a good idea to avoid talking about it because it might inspire confused / dumb people to do something counter-productive.

      • – TheFinn –

        Yeah it’s just weird how you can have a set of laws in place “in case you need to overtake the government” but you can’t talk about “overtaking the government” lol

        Like what good are the guns, if you cannot talk about using them? What good is having them if you can’t say “Ok, town hall meeting this friday on the topic of whether or not we are going to take over the whitehouse” ?

        Get what I mean ? It’s a purely academic question, it’s always bothered me about the whole setup.

      • – TheFinn –

        Awesome thanks for that.

    • A hymn to Hermes

      The 2nd Amendment was never about overthrowing the government. Conceptually America was supposed to have been a Single Party ethnostate with no factionalization and no standing army.

      Gun ownership was permitted because the framers of the Amendment didn’t have the political clout to make it mandatory, which was the actual desire. The founders wanted everyone armed as a matter of securing the homeland and everyone would be on the same page as to where to aim and who to shoot because of an intense homonoia; or perhaps gleichschaltung represents the concept if Greek isn’t your thing.

      This idea that the people who ran the new government in the late 18th century America were fomenting rebellion against themselves is largely a modern myth which paints Thomas Paine-esque Jacobinism, or some stripe of more modern Anarchism as the foundational ideal of America rather than Classical Republicanism, replete with musket-wielding centurions.

      • – TheFinn –

        I see. Damn that’s far, far from what I thought it was for. Thanks for the clarification.

        I’m in Australia, so we tend to raise our eyebrows about how some of this came about – it’s perplexing much of the time.

  • Arry Ajalami

    Fucking white nationalist idiots. Trump isn’t a white nationalist. Chapman isn’t a white nationalist. You are parasites latching on to a cause that you do not believe in, and one that doesn’t want you. Fuck off and do your own thing, see how far you get.

    • Bannon Dale

      Indians tend to hate whites with an irrational fury. It’s puzzling.

    • Rascal

      Trump depended on White people for something like 85% of his votes. You simpletons had better just get used to treating Whites like any other demographic group, you know, ones that actually expect something for their support.

      • > get used to treating Whites like any other demographic group, you know, ones that actually expect something for their support.

        During the election, my Facebook news feed was clogged with posts yelling “VOTE FOR HILLARY OR YOU’RE A RACIST, SEXIST, ISLAMOPHOBIC, HOMOPHOBIC, TRANSPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIC BIGOT!!!!!” Nobody bothered to say things like “Hillary will fight poverty in Appalachia,” “Hillary will take Black-on-White crime and racist ‘knock-out’ attacks seriously,” or “Hillary will protect you from corporate criminals.” (The last is asking the fox to guard the henhouse, I know…).

        It was taken as a given that White people would support Hillary because they owed it to everybody else. And when I noted that I was greeted either with stony silence or “YOU MUST BE A BIGOTED TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!” The idea that a White person — worse, a White man — would say “what’s in it for me?” was tantamount to Nazism. And then they wondered why White America was so unenthusiastic about supporting HRC. Appeals to White guilt will only carry you so far, especially with people who refuse to feel guilty about their Whiteness. And so far the Democratic Party (and large chunks of the Republican Party) seem steadfastly incapable of grasping that.

        • Rascal

          Great examples. It isn’t that hard, but people have come to literally expect Whites to willingly go against their own interests all the time. The Alt Right is really all the happens when Whites start acting like every other racial group, asking very basic questions like “What do we get out of it?”

          • A Jewish friend of mine questioned me about my interest in the Alternative Right. I explained to him that I support Israel for Jews, Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians and Europe for Europeans: I further explained that my White brothers and sisters are dying and I felt a moral obligation to protect them analogous to the Jewish obligation to one’s fellow Jews. I don’t know whether or not he got the point, but I think it is a valid one.

            I also support independence for American territories like Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa and Hawaii. (The last is particularly fun when I run into abuse-spouting White liberals from Honolulu. A quick lesson in Hawaiian history followed by “So I take it you’re against genocide when it doesn’t benefit you?” is usually enough to shut them up). Call me a racist fascist bigot all you like, but at least I’m logically consistent.

            My latest blog entry dealt with the proverbial question “Why do poor Whites always vote against their own self-interest.” Democrats have a hard time understanding why “poor White trailer park trash” won’t vote for people who think they are poor White trailer park trash. Or why, after getting shafted by two Democratic administrations who promised hope and change but delivered bupkis, poor White America voted against the Democratic candidate who represented the status quo and who saw them as a gaggle of “Deplorables.” It’s a stunning bit of willful blindness: they have no problem understanding why Blacks, who are generally more socially conservative, don’t vote Republican. But the idea that Whites might not vote for a party that demonizes them goes right over their pointy heads.

  • jaye VBellis

    Seems like this Stickman – Kyle Chapman is a lot like another Californian who had seen just too much SH** in his area of California and decided to do something:

    Chris Simcox – Volunteer Minuteman border patrol leader

    Chris also spent lots of time denying he was “racist”, I think White Nationalists charged him with all kinds of things like dating non White gals. Whatever

    These were/are men of action who take the initiative and put their bodies on the line for our civilization. I’m going to support them.

    Talk is cheap.

    • Evolver1

      It is not our “civilization” that most of us are fighting for. We are fighting for our survival as White people. First come the genes, and only then comes the civilization–not the other way around.

      And, without our White genes, that is, without White people, no civilization is worth anything to us as White people.

      • jaye VBellis

        Yeah, Ok. But talk, talk, talk is cheap.

        Who’s fighting our enemies in the streets at the border, on what used to be our college campuses.

        This stickman fought and won. So he’s saying a few foolish things. When I see you or all the pure 14 words/88 actually putting your bodies on the line and physically fighting Antifa mobs, Islamic terrorists, the Zio media – real people, real enemies, I’ll give you more, some respect.

        Talk is cheap.

        • Rascal

          “Stickman” isn’t fighting for “our civilization”, and don’t act like /ourguys/ aren’t out there too, because they are.

        • Evolver1

          A White who miscegenates is not fighting for White survival.

  • Rutger3

    If he deleted the post, it was probably because he wanted to delete it. Rather than to have it discussed in articles.

    • invincible white owl

      True enough, but alas, didn’t delete it fast enough!
      Which is fine, bc that was some bullsh*t & I’d rather know about it & know his actual nature, i.e. his nature of being someone who thinks & even fleetingly posts bullsh*t about folks who were supportive toward him, rather than one who racemixes: we overlooked the racemixing even though we’re actually against that type of thing, bc we recognized that he doesn’t have the same perspective & insights re this stuff.
      But countersignalling our people needlessly like that was bad fkin form. Very crappy. Glad articles are being written re it.

      • Rutger3

        What he did was good and iconic. It is to pay scant respect to one of our heroes to drag him through the mud like this. He is probably just a brave man that want to do good but is not so interested in intellectual stuff and is under alot of pressure and is caught up in life. I very much dislike this article. This is war and we use what allies we can get. As for racemixing, this has to be combated culturally first and foremost. If we do it any other way, that is after the war is won. And we can not win the war with purists alone.

  • What exactly do you (rhetorical you) plan to do with the 100+ million non-Europeans living in America right now? All the goose-stepping GTKRWN trolling I’ve seen is empty attention-seeking. You don’t have enough Zyklon-B to gas all the kikes, nor do you have enough weapons to clean out the mud if you ever manage to spark your race war now. For better or for worse America is now a multi-ethnic nation with a sizable non-European population: even if you put aside the moral objections, turning the clock back to 1776 and making America a White Christian nation isn’t going to happen. We need to start thinking about how we can preserve our culture and protect our interests as one ethnicity among many. White Nationalism is at best a silly pipedream that diverts attention and resources from that goal whilst driving away many potential members and allies: putting aside White Nationalism in no means equates with putting aside White interests.

    I’m all about securing the existence of White people and a future for White children. That means being realistic about where we are and what we’ve got. I want to preserve our identity as White Americans and rescue my poor White brothers and sisters from an endless cycle of poverty, drugs and despair. I also know we have to defend ourselves against anti-White thugs and Chapman put his stick where a lot of White Power mouths are.

    • TruthTeller

      Greg Johnson discusses this. (Spoiler: it has nothing to do with violence.)

      • Reading some Greg Johnson as we speak: thanks for the tip.

        I agree with his thoughts on Nazi symbolism: it is an unnecessary turn-off to natural allies. (Though I agree with him that most of the people who are shocked, just shocked by Shoah jokes probably wouldn’t come around to the cause anyway).

        As far as homogenous White homelands go, I grew up in one and significant chunks of flyover country are (or were) pretty homogenous — certainly homogenous enough to preserve a White identity. I’m not all that concerned about a little bit of non-European ancestry slipping into the bloodlines here and there: most of the Afrikaners, who are the Whitest people in the world, have a bit of Maori or Hottentot ancestry in their family tree. I am very concerned about Europe being overrun by people of non-European ancestry and with large sections of America becoming Latino rather than White. I support a freeze on immigration both in Europe and America and the closing of the “anchor baby” loophole. I also support the deportation of illegal aliens who are already here, and reject the use of immigrants to depress American wages. (That goes for Mexican immigrants bused into factories to take jobs that could go to the struggling local population and H1(b) visas for technical people).

        Reading more Johnson as we speak: I find I agree with what he is saying so far. Thanks again!

        • TruthTeller

          No problem. He’s very smart and articulate.

        • TruthTeller

          I don’t disagree with any of your views. Very reasonable.

          • I came to the alt.right from an unusual place: I’ve written books on Haitian Vodou and New Orleans Voodoo and have studied African Diaspora traditions for decades. I have no problem with Africans who don’t have a problem with me. I also reject, based on personal experience, the idea that all Blacks are “dindus” looking for handouts. There are many Black leaders who are passionately concerned about their people and who are working hard to fight black-on-black crime and the destruction of the Black family. I’ve seen the Nation of Islam and Black churches turn Black ex-convicts into productive citizens — and do a far better job of it than any government program. They don’t get a lot of attention in the White community because they don’t care about the White community: they are focused on their people and see Whites as irrelevant to their goals. They rightly believe that the solution to Black problems will only come from within the Black community. Whatever you may think of HBD, you have to admit law-abiding neighbors are preferable to criminals.

            One lesson the Alt.Right community could learn from Black Power groups: instead of posting manifestos on the Internet, they work on the ground to provide real-time real-world assistance. Where are our soup kitchens for poor Whites; where is our outreach to Appalachia; where are our self-defense squads ready to help Whites under siege? (If a White watch group had been patrolling the streets of Elisabeth Cannon’s Macon neighborhood, maybe she wouldn’t have been forced to shoot rock-throwing Black teens who had been terrorizing her community for months while Macon police did nothing). There are many ways we can serve our people and get our message out there: I’d like to see us taking the battle to those fronts.

          • TruthTeller

            I have no time to reply to everything but on the whole blacks are the most dependent helpless entitled group. More than any other group they expect others (whites) to solve their problems. Cherry picking the efforts of a tiny percentage of blacks doesn’t change that. I could cherry pick the various Christian ministries who try to help the poor. The unfortunate difference is that they don’t restrict their help to whites; in fact they tend to help anyone other than whites. By the way Matt Heimbach does what you suggest.

          • Good on Matt Heimbach, then. Those actions are what will cement the alt.right as a force to be reckoned with.

            My take is simple: we are going to be living alongside Black Americans for the foreseeable future. Anybody who can lower recidivism rates among Black ex-convicts — or who can keep them from committing crimes and getting incarcerated in the first place — is making my life safer. And if I’m going to be proud of my heritage and support my people, I can’t fault anybody of another race or ethnicity who wants to do the same.

      • Just finished The Slow Cleanse, which I suspect you were referencing. I agree 100% with his ideas on immigration here and in Europe. We need to increase deportations of illegal aliens and tighten the borders to legal immigration (I’d support an across the board freeze, but I am not sure that is feasible). The rest of his program sounds good, but again I am not sure how much cooperation we would receive from non-Whites who were not interested in returning to their ancestral homelands.

        • TruthTeller

          Yes I must admit…that’s quite a stretch to think Dominicans for example are going to be willing to go back to that cesspool.

          • I’d also note that given their druthers most Black and Latino people would rather live amongst their fellow Black and Latinos. (Black Nationalists and White Nationalists have many common goals: this piece by Hotep Nation is a good example. If “diversity” is a code word for White Genocide, “integration” is a code word for mission schools that wipe out both White and non-White identities in favor of a corporate consumerist monoculture.

          • TruthTeller

            Yes, they want to run the whole show and be with their own but they need whites to maintain the society. As stupid as they are, they have a vague realization of this on some level.

    • TruthTeller

      I hope you make similar lectures to La Raza, BLM, AIPAC, etc.

      • I said we need to defend ourselves against anti-White thugs. That would cover everybody you listed.

    • Bannon Dale

      We want a country of our own. And we will not be satisfied until we get one.

    • Crud Bonemeal

      White people have no future in a multi-ethnic nation where defensive racism is forbidden.

      That leads inevitably to white genocide.

      We need a country of our own.

      Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans, White Countries for everyone? I don’t think so.

    • A hymn to Hermes

      There isn’t going to be one white ethnicity among many non-whites if we don’t secure a homeland. There won’t be one white neighborhood left. There is no endpoint for “integration”. Immigration will continue indefinitely.

  • Andrew

    This post is garbage go ask shekels to ((Rebel Media))) you really need to stop the autistic drooling over that dopey thot of Lauren Southern. Civic nationalism is controlled opposition, and in the long run more toxic than liberalism itself. it leads people to believe that problems are being addressed when in reality they’re not, and in the meantime they’re delaying the implementation of radical measures until is already too late. Civic nationalism is nothing but the attempt of curing tuberculosis with aspirin. Keep the goyim asleep my civic nationalist boy, made him believe you will save him, BS!

    • Ed Edgerton

      I don’t agree that this article (written by N. Damigo) is garbage. The article is informative. I do agree about civic nationalism. Earlier in this thread, I raised the question of whether the whole confrontation between Stickman and antifa was staged. The end of his stick breaks off just as he is hitting an antifa over the head. It is like when you hit something with a stick that has been rotting for a while. It snaps right at the impact point. This must have been a very flimsy stick.

    • Jarod

      I agree with everything except the part about Southern. It is too early to tell which direction she will go. What is she? 21 or something?
      Sit tight on that one. Everything else you wrote is correct.

      • Andrew

        Sure she might undergo a transformation and become based af but that is not going to disprove the fact that 1. she’s a thot and 2. she’s not very smart (Women aren’t generally) and if a man recognizes the reality of inequality among human races but denies the inequality of genders he’d be either naive or a beta cuck orbiter.

  • Stephen Landser

    https://soundcloud.com/user-808907636/27-debased-stickman-2017-3-14

    AWESOME PODCAST covering BASED STICKMAN, not being so based…we got a lot of s&^% over this on our network 🙁

  • Joepechemode

    Not so based stickman isnt one of us. Bummer. Now we can move on. As far as his asian kids go i think its dumb to get hung up on individual cases of racemixing. Trying to convince someone that their children are mistakes is a bad look. Instead convince whites that demographics are destiny and the miscegenation will stop on its own.

  • Mojoman_XXXL

    I care very much about someone’s religion – if it’s islam. I guess Stick Man needs some education.

  • LyovMyshkin

    Hans Kohn couldn’t have had an ulterior motive in mind when he made up American Civic Nationalism could he?

  • Bantz Henriksen

    Let’s call civic nationalism by its true name, what it will result in, what it is in essence– Beige nationalism.

    These people are not our allies. They are generally race-mixers, and the world they want is a beige one, not a white one. They will only ever be pawns to be used in our racial struggle. In fact, they may actually be worse than other racial nationalists who at least desire to separate from us racially.

    Beige nationalists want to give multiracialism a chance and ignore the violence and animosity being directed at whites. If they are serious about their politics then they must viscerally reject ours, whereas another kind of racial nationalist could have the same long-term goals.

    They are not our friends. They are our tools. Use them wisely. And don’t trust them.

  • Matt

    Mad that Stick Man is a civic nationalist, but Richard Spencer is a socialist. And that sums up the whole argument of American white nationalism. It works in Europe, but here in the US, we have people that have been here for generations and to establish a white ethnostate, you’d have to sieze property . There is an order of operations here, don’t lose all of your support before breeding the white race back. The battle starts at home, if you want a white future, you will have to create white children first.

    This whole bit has thoroughly disgusted me, the alt right only keeps people around as long as they can use them and then tosses them out. This article reads like a tabloid MSM hit piece and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was controlled opposition to start with

    • We can’t afford Leftist-style political infighting. We’re in a fight for the survival of White people: they’re in a struggle to impress their buddies with virtue signals. Kyle Chapman didn’t just crack a few AntiFa heads: he made AntiFa look silly. AntiFa goons were able to successfully disrupt a few “White Supremacist” events and punch a few “Nazis:” that made them the darlings of the fashionable Left. There’s nothing cool or intimidating about getting your ass beat by a man who speaks softly and carries a big stick. Chapman dealt a huge blow to AntiFa’s public presence: combine that with the California beatdown of a pepper-spraying Black Bloc chump and suddenly AntiFa is looking less like the shock troops of Righteous Social Justice and more like punching bags. (I wonder how many black hoodies we will see in Hipsterdom after a few more raids lead not to AntiFa victories but AntiFa hospital bills).

      I’ve also noticed that when you check the histories of many of the loudest “RACE MIXING IS TREASON!!!” posters you see lots of whining about how White women are all feminist whores who commit the cardinal sin of refusing to fuck them. I think David Allan Coe summed up their real problems nicely.

    • Rascal

      What about these civic nationalists? They want votes from White people, but turn around and denigrate our interests. IN Kyle’s case, he asked for money to fund his legal battle. Shit like this is why I am not even sure if I care if Trump loses next go around.

    • A hymn to Hermes

      People already have their property seized and worse in the US. Entire cities have been ethnically cleansed as a matter of policy with the state using foreign irridentists to accomplish their goals. You only have a problem with the prospect of people on the receiving end being non-white.

  • temmy9 .

    Anyone willing to stand in the line and smash commie skulls is fine by me.

  • KilltheBank

    I agree with him to a certain point regarding American nationalism but I will NEVER shy away from advocating for my OWN KIND even if it hurts their feels.

  • Clytemnestra

    I understand Nathan Damigo’s pragmatism in supporting “Stick Man” despite his race-mixing. And to a certain extent and in the face of certain racial realities (the overwhelming presence of so-called people of color), I can support Civic Nationalism with one proviso: the right of free association is rigidly upheld.

    It has always been my contention that a White male race mixer is a more dangerous than White female race mixers, because she loses all status and is shunned by White society, While he does not only not lose status but does not have to fear shunning by White society even on boards like Alt-Right.com. Her children would never be welcomed however grudgingly into a racially conscious White society, so they will end up blending back into their father’s people. On the other hand, his children will be allowed into White society out of deference to him. Even Damigo tolerates a Stickman. And I have seen tons of WN lunging for each other’s throats on much less than race-mixing.

    While I would prefer that these men learn to live with all consequences of their decisions, up to and including being shunned by a racially conscious White separatist society and being prepared to move to an area where race-mixing is prevalent, like Mexico, I don’t see that happening. I look awesome in blue, but I won’t hold my breath on that one. They don’t want to give up the benefits of living in a White society and they don’t want those benefits denied to their Hapa and Castizo children. Perfectly understandable.

    This fervent push by racially conscious White men for Civic Nationalism which has been in place since the sixties and hasn’t worked very well for White Society makes me suspect that there are far more White men with Latina and Asian spouses than are officially on the books. That is why if we are stuck with Civic Nationalism, those of us with children of pure heritage must insist on a rigid adherence to free association.

    White men with Hapa and Castizo children must be prepared to understand why a racially conscious White separatist would not want their children of pure heritage mixing with and having children with Hapas and Castizos. Call me a pessimist, but I don’t see this happening. These men are very comfortable with the idea of eating their cake and having it, too.

  • JD Williams

    I do agree whites are losing ground, but instead of declaring defeat, how do we change the demographic reality? We must realize without white children we have nobody to pass the baton too. We need to start focusing some of our efforts and resources to promoting white families and white families that consist of 5 or more children.

  • JD Williams

    I know Bloc Identitiare has camps and in those camps they are promoting identity, but you have to assume they are also promoting white families. Also, how do we confront the reality that most women want to go to college and pursue careers ahead of starting families. How do we balance that?

  • Alec. .Blue

    Too bad you punched a white woman in the face today at your rally… Even if you are so short you had to become famous to even be seen by one…

    • Alec. .Blue

      infamous* the infamous hippie puncher! Don’t let this man out of the VA’s office without his prescription! He’ll need 8 anti-psychotics, boy, this isn’t ISIS, but your own countryfolk!

      • Sewray3000

        hey alec

  • Stephen Landser
  • Fidelis ad urnam

    Just discovered this Kyle Chapman guy tonight and also discovered he has a kid with his Asian girlfriend. So disappointing. And I REALLY wanted to like him too.

  • Joe Roberts

    So he actually turns out to be based,and you don’t like it. Cuck=racist white guy with sexual insecurity that turns that into hate for all non-whte races.

  • Andy Greatstory
  • luvgabe

    What do the AtlRight’s racial nationalists do about the REALITY that whites — and I don’t mean Jews — are among the Left? So how can you use the white race as the necessary and exclusive criterion for the American nation?

  • Snark

    Why ya’ll against race mixing? Hybrid vigor is a good thing. We need a strong gene pool with a diversity of traits.