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Is Based Stick Man Not So Based?

Kyle Chapman, AKA “Based Stick Man,” in a now deleted post, made the following statement last night on Facebook denouncing “racism” within the Trump movement.

While obviously there should be no calls for violence, and the wisdom of utilizing racial epithets is arguably bad optics, Chapman seems to believe that 1776 American identity was one devoid of race. To support his call for a race-blind form of American nationalism, Chapman posted a Wikipedia article that cites Jewish scholar Hans Kohn who claimed

[T]he United States government institutionalized a civic nationalism based on legal and rational concepts of citizenship, and based on a common language and cultural traditions, rather than ethnic nationalism. The founders of the United States founded the country upon classical liberal individualist principles rather than ethnic nationalist principles.

While Kohn is correct that the founders established America upon classical liberal individualist principles, these principles were not universally applied to non-Europeans. Many of the founders explicitly wrote about their feelings towards other races, as well as their plans for the future of American society, as Jared Taylor has thoroughly documented.  For example, John Jay, one of the major contributors of The Federalist Papers and the first Chief Justice of the United States stated in the second paper that America should be composed of

a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs.

Others like, James Madison, the fourth President of the United States who is hailed as the “Father of the Constitution” for his role in drafting the antiquated document in addition to the Bill of Rights said about blacks.

To be consistent with existing and probably unalterable prejudices in the U.S. freed blacks ought to be permanently removed beyond the region occupied by or allotted to a White population.

Even “the Great Emancipator” Abraham Lincoln himself, during the Lincoln-Douglas debates, asserted

I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality.

So why would the “based” stick man cuck on race, making an empirically false claim and alienating a significant proportion of his supporters? Much has recently been revealed about Chapman’s personal life after he was doxxed by antifa in an article by the anarchist website It’s Going Down. Though allegedly having read Arthur Kemp’s fashy two-volume history of the White race, March of the Titans, Chapman has a child with a woman of Asian descent, and it would make sense that advocating civic nationalism is about as far as he can go without alienating her or his progeny.

This poses a strange scenario for those in the Alt-Right, who just several days ago stood toe-to-toe against antifa at Trump rallies across the country. While I agree that it is disheartening to hear the man who ascended to a meme call for the rejection of White interests, we must nevertheless continue to move forward with our uneasy alliance in order to make progress on altering social policy. Ending sanctuary cities, birthright citizenship, and installing a national E-Verify system are just a handful of policies that we can work together with civic nationalists on, and if successful, would put us closer to securing a future for our people.

Kyle Chapman may be wrong about the Founder’s intentions, but he is undoubtedly a brave man who is willing to stand up against bullies for what he believes. He is still facing multiple criminal charges for defending people who rallied to support their president and were subsequently attacked by degenerate thugs for doing so. Next month, Chapman will be speaking along with Lauren Southern and others at The Freedom Rally in Berkeley in open defiance of the antifa goons who attacked him and others. If you are interested in donating to help with the funding, WeSearchr has a bounty going.

I disagree with much of what he has to say, but Chapman is a fellow traveler who shares a common enemy. There is no greater threat to human progress than censorship of public dialogue. Cultural Marxism thrives on an ignorant and demoralized populace and seeks to squash all dissenting narratives lest their intellectual fraudulence become exposed. This being the case, I as well as others will be at Berkeley on April 15th to stand in support and in protection of those who seek to participate in public discourse.

 

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Danvil
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Jew tries to tell Whites they can’t have an ethnostate the way Joos have Israel, their very own Joo-State

Snark
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Why ya’ll against race mixing? Hybrid vigor is a good thing. We need a strong gene pool with a diversity of traits.

Jack Burton
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Whites already have hybrid vigor. We were created from 3 founding European populations. We outlawed consanguineous marriages a long time ago.

There is no such thing as interracial hybrid vigor. Studies show that the offspring of such union on average lands inbetween the two racial populations in ability. So it is a DOWNGRADE for the superior racial population which is why hyperdescent, as practiced in Latin America, failed, and hypodescent, as practiced in North America, won and saved our race.

Snark
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But wouldn’t a half jew half negro hybrid be better able to absorb ultraviolet radiation from the sun without dying of skin cancer vs. a full blooded jew?

luvgabe
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What do the AtlRight’s racial nationalists do about the REALITY that whites — and I don’t mean Jews — are among the Left? So how can you use the white race as the necessary and exclusive criterion for the American nation?

Jack Burton
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They can continue their willful denial of racial differences in their own multiracial cesspool without destroying the rest of us.

Andy Greatstory
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Joe Roberts
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So he actually turns out to be based,and you don’t like it. Cuck=racist white guy with sexual insecurity that turns that into hate for all non-whte races.

Fidelis ad urnam
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Just discovered this Kyle Chapman guy tonight and also discovered he has a kid with his Asian girlfriend. So disappointing. And I REALLY wanted to like him too.

Jack Burton
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Once you have a non-white child you’re out. This also goes for mischling children like with Alex Jones. That was one of the rules of Pierce’s National Alliance. Past indiscretions can be forgiven but a mixed child is permanent.

Alec. .Blue
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Too bad you punched a white woman in the face today at your rally… Even if you are so short you had to become famous to even be seen by one…

Alec. .Blue
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infamous* the infamous hippie puncher! Don’t let this man out of the VA’s office without his prescription! He’ll need 8 anti-psychotics, boy, this isn’t ISIS, but your own countryfolk!

Sewray3000
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hey alec

JD Williams
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I know Bloc Identitiare has camps and in those camps they are promoting identity, but you have to assume they are also promoting white families. Also, how do we confront the reality that most women want to go to college and pursue careers ahead of starting families. How do we balance that?

JD Williams
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I do agree whites are losing ground, but instead of declaring defeat, how do we change the demographic reality? We must realize without white children we have nobody to pass the baton too. We need to start focusing some of our efforts and resources to promoting white families and white families that consist of 5 or more children.

Clytemnestra
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I understand Nathan Damigo’s pragmatism in supporting “Stick Man” despite his race-mixing. And to a certain extent and in the face of certain racial realities (the overwhelming presence of so-called people of color), I can support Civic Nationalism with one proviso: the right of free association is rigidly upheld. It has always been my contention that a White male race mixer is a more dangerous than White female race mixers, because she loses all status and is shunned by White society, While he does not only not lose status but does not have to fear shunning by White society even… Read more »
KilltheBank
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I agree with him to a certain point regarding American nationalism but I will NEVER shy away from advocating for my OWN KIND even if it hurts their feels.

temmy9 .
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Anyone willing to stand in the line and smash commie skulls is fine by me.

Matt
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Mad that Stick Man is a civic nationalist, but Richard Spencer is a socialist. And that sums up the whole argument of American white nationalism. It works in Europe, but here in the US, we have people that have been here for generations and to establish a white ethnostate, you’d have to sieze property . There is an order of operations here, don’t lose all of your support before breeding the white race back. The battle starts at home, if you want a white future, you will have to create white children first. This whole bit has thoroughly disgusted me,… Read more »
Jack Burton
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Spencer isn’t that much better actually because he says that miscegenation is okay and we can absorb millions of mongrels.

A hymn to Hermes
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People already have their property seized and worse in the US. Entire cities have been ethnically cleansed as a matter of policy with the state using foreign irridentists to accomplish their goals. You only have a problem with the prospect of people on the receiving end being non-white.

Rascal
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What about these civic nationalists? They want votes from White people, but turn around and denigrate our interests. IN Kyle’s case, he asked for money to fund his legal battle. Shit like this is why I am not even sure if I care if Trump loses next go around.

Kenaz Filan
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We can’t afford Leftist-style political infighting. We’re in a fight for the survival of White people: they’re in a struggle to impress their buddies with virtue signals. Kyle Chapman didn’t just crack a few AntiFa heads: he made AntiFa look silly. AntiFa goons were able to successfully disrupt a few “White Supremacist” events and punch a few “Nazis:” that made them the darlings of the fashionable Left. There’s nothing cool or intimidating about getting your ass beat by a man who speaks softly and carries a big stick. Chapman dealt a huge blow to AntiFa’s public presence: combine that with… Read more »
Bantz Henriksen
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Let’s call civic nationalism by its true name, what it will result in, what it is in essence– Beige nationalism. These people are not our allies. They are generally race-mixers, and the world they want is a beige one, not a white one. They will only ever be pawns to be used in our racial struggle. In fact, they may actually be worse than other racial nationalists who at least desire to separate from us racially. Beige nationalists want to give multiracialism a chance and ignore the violence and animosity being directed at whites. If they are serious about their… Read more »
LyovMyshkin
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Hans Kohn couldn’t have had an ulterior motive in mind when he made up American Civic Nationalism could he?

Mojoman_XXXL
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I care very much about someone’s religion – if it’s islam. I guess Stick Man needs some education.

Joepechemode
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Not so based stickman isnt one of us. Bummer. Now we can move on. As far as his asian kids go i think its dumb to get hung up on individual cases of racemixing. Trying to convince someone that their children are mistakes is a bad look. Instead convince whites that demographics are destiny and the miscegenation will stop on its own.

Stephen Landser
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https://soundcloud.com/user-808907636/27-debased-stickman-2017-3-14

AWESOME PODCAST covering BASED STICKMAN, not being so based…we got a lot of s&^% over this on our network 🙁

Andrew
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This post is garbage go ask shekels to ((Rebel Media))) you really need to stop the autistic drooling over that dopey thot of Lauren Southern. Civic nationalism is controlled opposition, and in the long run more toxic than liberalism itself. it leads people to believe that problems are being addressed when in reality they’re not, and in the meantime they’re delaying the implementation of radical measures until is already too late. Civic nationalism is nothing but the attempt of curing tuberculosis with aspirin. Keep the goyim asleep my civic nationalist boy, made him believe you will save him, BS!

Jarod
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I agree with everything except the part about Southern. It is too early to tell which direction she will go. What is she? 21 or something?
Sit tight on that one. Everything else you wrote is correct.

Andrew
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Sure she might undergo a transformation and become based af but that is not going to disprove the fact that 1. she’s a thot and 2. she’s not very smart (Women aren’t generally) and if a man recognizes the reality of inequality among human races but denies the inequality of genders he’d be either naive or a beta cuck orbiter.

Jack Burton
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Women don’t go based, dumbass. All the so-called based women who pretended to be Hitler worshipers turned out to be frauds. No shit.

Find a woman who is Alt Right WITHOUT an Alt Right man in her life? Women are co-dependent. If it’s not to a man then it’s to the state.

Ed Edgerton
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I don’t agree that this article (written by N. Damigo) is garbage. The article is informative. I do agree about civic nationalism. Earlier in this thread, I raised the question of whether the whole confrontation between Stickman and antifa was staged. The end of his stick breaks off just as he is hitting an antifa over the head. It is like when you hit something with a stick that has been rotting for a while. It snaps right at the impact point. This must have been a very flimsy stick.

Kenaz Filan
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What exactly do you (rhetorical you) plan to do with the 100+ million non-Europeans living in America right now? All the goose-stepping GTKRWN trolling I’ve seen is empty attention-seeking. You don’t have enough Zyklon-B to gas all the kikes, nor do you have enough weapons to clean out the mud if you ever manage to spark your race war now. For better or for worse America is now a multi-ethnic nation with a sizable non-European population: even if you put aside the moral objections, turning the clock back to 1776 and making America a White Christian nation isn’t going to… Read more »
A hymn to Hermes
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There isn’t going to be one white ethnicity among many non-whites if we don’t secure a homeland. There won’t be one white neighborhood left. There is no endpoint for “integration”. Immigration will continue indefinitely.

Crud Bonemeal
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White people have no future in a multi-ethnic nation where defensive racism is forbidden.

That leads inevitably to white genocide.

We need a country of our own.

Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans, White Countries for everyone? I don’t think so.

Bannon Dale
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We want a country of our own. And we will not be satisfied until we get one.

TruthTeller
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I hope you make similar lectures to La Raza, BLM, AIPAC, etc.

Kenaz Filan
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I said we need to defend ourselves against anti-White thugs. That would cover everybody you listed.

TruthTeller
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Greg Johnson discusses this. (Spoiler: it has nothing to do with violence.)

Jack Burton
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All of this is old hat really. Here’s the starting point that a lot of people skip over and get wrong: the entire white population is not going to become white nationalist. Voting patterns tell us at best it will be split down the middle, maybe 60/40 in our favor. So the entire country is not going to be ours. Therefore, we don’t need to worry about where blacks and Mexicans will go, should we give them a state? Faggots always like to give them part of the South. Hey, if any region is going to go Alt Right it… Read more »
Kenaz Filan
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Just finished The Slow Cleanse, which I suspect you were referencing. I agree 100% with his ideas on immigration here and in Europe. We need to increase deportations of illegal aliens and tighten the borders to legal immigration (I’d support an across the board freeze, but I am not sure that is feasible). The rest of his program sounds good, but again I am not sure how much cooperation we would receive from non-Whites who were not interested in returning to their ancestral homelands.

TruthTeller
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Yes I must admit…that’s quite a stretch to think Dominicans for example are going to be willing to go back to that cesspool.

Kenaz Filan
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I’d also note that given their druthers most Black and Latino people would rather live amongst their fellow Black and Latinos. (Black Nationalists and White Nationalists have many common goals: this piece by Hotep Nation is a good example. If “diversity” is a code word for White Genocide, “integration” is a code word for mission schools that wipe out both White and non-White identities in favor of a corporate consumerist monoculture.

TruthTeller
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Yes, they want to run the whole show and be with their own but they need whites to maintain the society. As stupid as they are, they have a vague realization of this on some level.

Kenaz Filan
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Reading some Greg Johnson as we speak: thanks for the tip. I agree with his thoughts on Nazi symbolism: it is an unnecessary turn-off to natural allies. (Though I agree with him that most of the people who are shocked, just shocked by Shoah jokes probably wouldn’t come around to the cause anyway). As far as homogenous White homelands go, I grew up in one and significant chunks of flyover country are (or were) pretty homogenous — certainly homogenous enough to preserve a White identity. I’m not all that concerned about a little bit of non-European ancestry slipping into the… Read more »
TruthTeller
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I don’t disagree with any of your views. Very reasonable.

Kenaz Filan
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I came to the alt.right from an unusual place: I’ve written books on Haitian Vodou and New Orleans Voodoo and have studied African Diaspora traditions for decades. I have no problem with Africans who don’t have a problem with me. I also reject, based on personal experience, the idea that all Blacks are “dindus” looking for handouts. There are many Black leaders who are passionately concerned about their people and who are working hard to fight black-on-black crime and the destruction of the Black family. I’ve seen the Nation of Islam and Black churches turn Black ex-convicts into productive citizens… Read more »
TruthTeller
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I have no time to reply to everything but on the whole blacks are the most dependent helpless entitled group. More than any other group they expect others (whites) to solve their problems. Cherry picking the efforts of a tiny percentage of blacks doesn’t change that. I could cherry pick the various Christian ministries who try to help the poor. The unfortunate difference is that they don’t restrict their help to whites; in fact they tend to help anyone other than whites. By the way Matt Heimbach does what you suggest.

Kenaz Filan
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Good on Matt Heimbach, then. Those actions are what will cement the alt.right as a force to be reckoned with.

My take is simple: we are going to be living alongside Black Americans for the foreseeable future. Anybody who can lower recidivism rates among Black ex-convicts — or who can keep them from committing crimes and getting incarcerated in the first place — is making my life safer. And if I’m going to be proud of my heritage and support my people, I can’t fault anybody of another race or ethnicity who wants to do the same.

TruthTeller
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No problem. He’s very smart and articulate.

Rutger3
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If he deleted the post, it was probably because he wanted to delete it. Rather than to have it discussed in articles.

Jack Burton
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He can’t delete his mixed child.

invincible white owl
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True enough, but alas, didn’t delete it fast enough!
Which is fine, bc that was some bullsh*t & I’d rather know about it & know his actual nature, i.e. his nature of being someone who thinks & even fleetingly posts bullsh*t about folks who were supportive toward him, rather than one who racemixes: we overlooked the racemixing even though we’re actually against that type of thing, bc we recognized that he doesn’t have the same perspective & insights re this stuff.
But countersignalling our people needlessly like that was bad fkin form. Very crappy. Glad articles are being written re it.

Rutger3
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What he did was good and iconic. It is to pay scant respect to one of our heroes to drag him through the mud like this. He is probably just a brave man that want to do good but is not so interested in intellectual stuff and is under alot of pressure and is caught up in life. I very much dislike this article. This is war and we use what allies we can get. As for racemixing, this has to be combated culturally first and foremost. If we do it any other way, that is after the war is… Read more »
jaye VBellis
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Seems like this Stickman – Kyle Chapman is a lot like another Californian who had seen just too much SH** in his area of California and decided to do something:

Chris Simcox – Volunteer Minuteman border patrol leader

Chris also spent lots of time denying he was “racist”, I think White Nationalists charged him with all kinds of things like dating non White gals. Whatever

These were/are men of action who take the initiative and put their bodies on the line for our civilization. I’m going to support them.

Talk is cheap.

Evolver1
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It is not our “civilization” that most of us are fighting for. We are fighting for our survival as White people. First come the genes, and only then comes the civilization–not the other way around.

And, without our White genes, that is, without White people, no civilization is worth anything to us as White people.

jaye VBellis
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Yeah, Ok. But talk, talk, talk is cheap.

Who’s fighting our enemies in the streets at the border, on what used to be our college campuses.

This stickman fought and won. So he’s saying a few foolish things. When I see you or all the pure 14 words/88 actually putting your bodies on the line and physically fighting Antifa mobs, Islamic terrorists, the Zio media – real people, real enemies, I’ll give you more, some respect.

Talk is cheap.

Evolver1
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A White who miscegenates is not fighting for White survival.

Rascal
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“Stickman” isn’t fighting for “our civilization”, and don’t act like /ourguys/ aren’t out there too, because they are.

Arry Ajalami
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Fucking white nationalist idiots. Trump isn’t a white nationalist. Chapman isn’t a white nationalist. You are parasites latching on to a cause that you do not believe in, and one that doesn’t want you. Fuck off and do your own thing, see how far you get.

Rascal
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Trump depended on White people for something like 85% of his votes. You simpletons had better just get used to treating Whites like any other demographic group, you know, ones that actually expect something for their support.

Kenaz Filan
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> get used to treating Whites like any other demographic group, you know, ones that actually expect something for their support. During the election, my Facebook news feed was clogged with posts yelling “VOTE FOR HILLARY OR YOU’RE A RACIST, SEXIST, ISLAMOPHOBIC, HOMOPHOBIC, TRANSPHOBIC, XENOPHOBIC BIGOT!!!!!” Nobody bothered to say things like “Hillary will fight poverty in Appalachia,” “Hillary will take Black-on-White crime and racist ‘knock-out’ attacks seriously,” or “Hillary will protect you from corporate criminals.” (The last is asking the fox to guard the henhouse, I know…). It was taken as a given that White people would support Hillary… Read more »
Rascal
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Great examples. It isn’t that hard, but people have come to literally expect Whites to willingly go against their own interests all the time. The Alt Right is really all the happens when Whites start acting like every other racial group, asking very basic questions like “What do we get out of it?”

Kenaz Filan
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A Jewish friend of mine questioned me about my interest in the Alternative Right. I explained to him that I support Israel for Jews, Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians and Europe for Europeans: I further explained that my White brothers and sisters are dying and I felt a moral obligation to protect them analogous to the Jewish obligation to one’s fellow Jews. I don’t know whether or not he got the point, but I think it is a valid one. I also support independence for American territories like Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa and Hawaii. (The last is particularly… Read more »
Bannon Dale
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Indians tend to hate whites with an irrational fury. It’s puzzling.

- TheFinn -
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Can someone explain to me how the 2nd amendment in America gives people the right to own guns in order to protect themselves against the government, however talk about violence against the government is still against the law. Don’t get me wrong, I get why this law exists in other countries, but the 2nd amendment kind of suggests that violence against the government is ok under certain circumstances, but you can’t discuss if those circumstances are happening right now? How would you organize the guns to be pointed in the right direction at the same time if nobody is allowed… Read more »
A hymn to Hermes
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The 2nd Amendment was never about overthrowing the government. Conceptually America was supposed to have been a Single Party ethnostate with no factionalization and no standing army. Gun ownership was permitted because the framers of the Amendment didn’t have the political clout to make it mandatory, which was the actual desire. The founders wanted everyone armed as a matter of securing the homeland and everyone would be on the same page as to where to aim and who to shoot because of an intense homonoia; or perhaps gleichschaltung represents the concept if Greek isn’t your thing. This idea that the… Read more »
- TheFinn -
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I see. Damn that’s far, far from what I thought it was for. Thanks for the clarification.

I’m in Australia, so we tend to raise our eyebrows about how some of this came about – it’s perplexing much of the time.

Crud Bonemeal
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There are plenty of legal ways to discuss that kind of thing, read the case law, it’s only illegal under certain circumstances. Survivalist patriot blogs talk about it constantly.

But white nationalists are targeted by law enforcement and should be very careful to avoid any talk of violence. The Alt-Right is very smart to avoid this sort of talk.

It’s also a good idea to avoid talking about it because it might inspire confused / dumb people to do something counter-productive.

- TheFinn -
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Awesome thanks for that.

- TheFinn -
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Yeah it’s just weird how you can have a set of laws in place “in case you need to overtake the government” but you can’t talk about “overtaking the government” lol

Like what good are the guns, if you cannot talk about using them? What good is having them if you can’t say “Ok, town hall meeting this friday on the topic of whether or not we are going to take over the whitehouse” ?

Get what I mean ? It’s a purely academic question, it’s always bothered me about the whole setup.

Rhino 🦏🥛🐸
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It’s a cultural taboo. It’s only a legal taboo if you speak specifically.

- TheFinn -
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Thanks for the replies!

I have a much better understanding now I think.

John Snow
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He is selling out. That’s what you have to say to get in the lugenpresse . Nobody believes that shit. unless they are clinically retarded or have mental problems.

Antifeminazi
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He’s a piece of shit. DISAVOW.

Bannon Dale
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(((Hans Kohn)))

))) Depeche Europa (((
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))) Depeche Europa (((

We all knew he wasn’t Alt-Right from the Start……

….when we saw his Asian Wife……

But, I still donated to Wesearcher.com to help him……

The Fact that he feels the need to attack us when many of us donated our own money to help him….

…..shows that he’s Shady…….

Oh, well…….

He smashed some AntiFa Heads with a Wooden Pole…….

It was worth the money I donated……

But, I’m done donating to Wesearchr.com unless the Person is explicitly Alt-Right……

We still need to find the person who attacked Richard Spencer…….

Jusqu'au Bout
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There definately needs to be a more rigorous investigation before asking the Altright community to put up money…

))) Depeche Europa (((
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))) Depeche Europa (((

Agreed…..

VictoryOrValhalla
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In all fairness, him being Alt-Lite doesn’t surprise me at all.
He’s still a step above the common profligate, and antifa clearly has him pegged as a facist nazi so whether we like it or not he’ll be forced to our side when they start shooting “nazis” in the streets.
And no, I’m not defending the half-breeds and miscegnation.

))) Depeche Europa (((
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))) Depeche Europa (((

I completely agree with you…..

JohnK
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And morons gave money to this idiot. I saw right through him from the beginning. I feel sorry for those that gave him money, you got played by this cuck.

joe-boston
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White fathers need to have a talk with their sons and dissuade them from Asian women. They can certainly look very attractive when they are young but just wait till they reach about 40. They shrivel up like dried grapes. When a young man is in his 20’s, his 40’s and 50’s seem to far in the distance to even consider, but trust me; when you are in your 50’s you are still going to enjoy your sex life and no women age as well as White women.

Jusqu'au Bout
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White women are more attractive than any other race. Period. If young white men are attracted to Asian women there’s something else (psychological?) going on.

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

I find it hard to fault a White guy who entered a relationship with an East-Asian before becoming racially aware (not that Chapman seems to have any sort of White identity; this is kind of a tangential post). There are certainly some very attractive East-Asian women, and intelligence has always been a powerful independent attractant for me. I wouldn’t now even consider marrying a non-White of any sort, but most of us weren’t born White Nationalists – though I view with some contempt any White man who marries a Black woman.

ThomasER916
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Actually, Chapman’s halfu children and Asian wife are central to the problem. Of course he’s going to push the autism of civic nationalism. That’s a future and present he’s comfortable with. That future is a dead end for Whites. It means that Whites are miscegenated out of existence. Chapman will not move to a Negro neighborhood or send his children to Negro schools in his lifetime. However, he’s forcing all Whites to accept that as their future.

Jack Burton
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Spencer said that he’s okay with race-mixers like Chapman bringing their non-white wife and mixed child into the white ethnostate, including mudshark whores and their dindu BFs, FYI. Spencer said we can absorb them no problem.

PrometheusReturns
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The leaders are always to the Left of the troops. Will Spencer be Ernst Roehm or is that Milo?

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

Oh, of course it’s not an acceptable model. I just can’t find it in myself to blame him too much for having made that mistake.

Jusqu'au Bout
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From what you say about Asian women… White women are obviously uglier and dumber. Are you sure you’re at the right website???

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

I don’t think that’s an obvious inference to draw from my post.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

How is writing: “…There are certainly some very attractive East-Asian women, and intelligence has always been a powerful independent attractant for me,” not saying that?

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

Really? Saying that there exist some very attractive East-Asian women implies that White women are uglier?

Urbanus_II
Guest

Don’t try to reason with these idiots. Dogs are more intelligent.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

No, it means you’re confused.

DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ
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DaveMD ✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗᴰʳ

I think you should work on your reading comprehension. In any event, a WN is perfectly capable of recognizing that smart, good-looking East-Asian women exist, while simultaneously believing that they should be in European countries or marrying White men.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

But all kidding aside, we are born enthocentrists. So, to say we’re not born “White Nationalists” is true but to say we’re not born to favor our own race is false.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

Ah, you got me. Lol, I totally fell for your troll. Good one haha 😉

Cam
Guest

Thomas Jefferson also had some choice words regarding the Negro in the “Laws” chapter of “Notes on the State of Virginia” …

https://books.google.com/books?id=DTWttRSMtbYC&vq=euclid&pg=PA149#v=onepage&q&f=false

Jack Burton
Guest

I believe it was Jefferson who said mudsharks should be considered “beyond the protection of the law.”

Cam
Guest

Which certainly should make us question the “Sally Hemmings” fantasy dreamed up by libs.

richard garyson
Guest

Am I the only one who thinks it’s awesome that people are now deleting “anti-racist” comments, for fear offending the Alt Right?

Jack Burton
Guest

It just depends who their social group is. Obviously he’s hanging around Alt Right guys so they have some influence on him.

The problem is he still has a mixed child and he should support his child.

Remember miscegenation was since our founding and for some states still on the books until the 1960s, against the law and a crime.

Orson_23
Guest
You’re absolutely correct. This is the most important takeaway from this situation. And it completely destroys the weak, “don’t attack fellow travelers” argument by Nathan Damigo. StickCuck deleted his post precisely because he was afraid of being attacked by the Alt-Right. If we support civic-Nationalists, instead of mercilessly attacking them, they have no reason to change their ideology. The meteoric rise of the Alt-Right has been due to our high-profile attacks on our ideologically enemies and the extreme social-pressure that we inflict on cucks and normies in order to force them to change their behavior. Baked Alaska even admitted that… Read more »
LyovMyshkin
Guest

When we REEEEEEEE the whole world shakes! 🙂

Kenaz Filan
Guest

Excellent point.

Smash Islamophobia
Guest

Damn. I didn’t even think of that. That’s right:
Fear the wrath of almighty Kek!

TruthTeller
Guest

Keep pressing the issue. The Overton Window has to be moved a lot more.

Yehudah Finkelstein
Guest

Comment of the thread. In 2014, Chapman would have deleted a racist comment he made for fear of being seen as racist. The Tide is turning.

Krafty Wurker
Guest

Just remember this, a lot of people will do anything to get on TV and in the newspapers.

Rascal
Guest

Good article Nathan, good to see you contributing to this site. I will be hard on civic nationalists that speak out against White interests, because they are too dumb to realize that they need our active participation more than we need their broken ideology. Shit like this almost makes me hope Trump loses to destroy this fantasy once and for all.

Man of White Skin
Guest

Another race-mixing cuck. Fuck him.

TruthTeller
Guest

Very reasonable piece, Nathan.

Pilleater
Guest

Chapman is by Asian-Aryan definition a “new-cuck.” He needs to seriously get yellow-pilled.

Jack Burton
Guest

Nothing says beta like an Asian GF.

Urbanus_II
Guest

Racial idolatry; the essence of the Alt White.

Jack Burton
Guest

I don’t see the problem.

Crud Bonemeal
Guest

Race is real and it matters. All human behavioral traits are heritable.

And they vary significantly between human population groups.

If whites are replaced with other groups the civilization that we built will not continue.

Urbanus_II
Guest

That doesn’t address anything I said.

Rascal
Guest

So what is important and what is the proper context in your opinion?

Urbanus_II
Guest

You inspired me to write an entire OP on it. Here. Tell me where you think I’m wrong. Have at it.

Rascal
Guest

White people made Christianity great, not the other way around. White people wrote the philosophical and legal literature in the Greek civilization that is still studied today. The people are the common denominator in everything regarding Western civilization. White people are the roots, and Christianity/Greek Philosophy are the flowers.

That post sounds like constitution (paper) worship to me.

Urbanus_II
Guest

Interesting, since I didn’t once mention any constitution, let alone the United States Constitution. What are doing is secularizing Christianity to conform to your own racial prejudices. Inherent to Christianity is repentance; the only solution available. We should learn from the disastrous 20th century rather than repeat the same mistakes. It’s unclear where you stand, but I think I’m close to figuring it out.

Rascal
Guest
I know you didn’t mention the constitution, I meant to convey that your post looks like ones written by constitutionalists that think that the constitution was presented to colonial Americans through some sort of act of God, instead of it being a product of their inherent humanity. The point is, if the constitution, Catholicism, Greek philosophy were all be wiped out or otherwise destroyed tomorrow, it may eventually be recreated by the people that created it in the first place. If you wipe out all Europeans, well, good luck recreating these documents and ideals without the very people that birthed… Read more »
Urbanus_II
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I agree with much of that. Without the European people there wouldn’t be Western Civilization, at least not as anything we know it to be today. The European people have the right to defend their nations. I’m not disagreeing with that either. What I am saying is that these are all temporal goods and should not be confused with the source of all Truth and Value.

Rascal
Guest

So what is the source of all Truth and value? I just did a word search in your tldr post and found none of those words. For me the source of value is people, while truth is a bit harder to define, it ultimately ends up leading to prosperity and survival of people and reflects their experiences.

Easy, precise, and clear. I find your explanation far more murky, no offense.

Urbanus_II
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If the source of value is people as you say, are you suggesting some kind of ethno-relativism? Do you deny the existence of absolute and objective morality? Just trying to clarify your position.

Rascal
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Yes, I object the existence of an absolute morality. First, they don’t exist, second, they can conflict with survival. Not to say that I don’t wish an absolute morality existed, but it doesn’t.

Urbanus_II
Guest

Are you suggesting nihilism or some kind of relative morality?

Evolver1
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Implicit in your Christian belief system is a universal morality that fails to recognize the genetic differences of different peoples. This is anti-nature and against the will of nature’s God whose laws are written in nature all around us. Your basic faith is a form of perverse humanism and is not from God. It is a cafeteria style belief system that worships a dead Jew who was simply one of many Jews who have made up various self-help and or philosophical systems (ex: Ayn Rand, b. Alisa Rosenbaum/Werner Erhard, b. John Rosenberg). While there are universal moral truths, there are… Read more »
Urbanus_II
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Implicit in your Christian belief system is a universal morality that fails to recognize the genetic differences of different peoples.

Incorrect.

Evolver1
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Let’s learn a little more about your beliefs. If you have a chance to save ten Black Christians or just one White who is a pagan or an atheist or who belongs to a non-Christian White faith, but you can only save the ten Black Christians or the one White non-Christian, who would you save? And, why?

Urbanus_II
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Get lost. I don’t play silly games with morons.

Evolver1
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We see you. Say, the Bible says to kill Homosexuals. How do you feel about that?

Urbanus_II
Guest

Yawn.

Evolver1
Guest
I’ll assume arguendo and at least for the moment that you are White and that you are on this site because you honestly believe that you have White interests at heart. If my two assumptions are correct, good. However, and as can be seen by your angry non-answers to my two questions above, your earlier veneer of politeness is suddenly dropped and you strike out verbally when faced with a couple of moral dilemmas involving religion/race and what your Bible says about homosexuals. This is a textbook example of cognitive dissonance as you try to reconcile mutually contradictory beliefs. It’s… Read more »
Urbanus_II
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I will engage in reasoned debate with those willing to do so. However, I don’t think you care about the dialectic process nor do I believe you are asking questions in good faith. All I will say is that we have a moral obligation to obey the magisterium of the Catholic Church. I’ll let you reason through your own questions based on that fact alone. I think you’re capable, but I won’t hold my breath.

Evolver1
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It’s clear that you aren’t able or willing to rationally resolve the two hypothetical moral dilemmas that I set up, and you’re not alone, as many other Whites are also in that position. However, I’m not here to badger you personally. Your comments and your positions simply gave me a jumping off place to make some points. I’m also not here to debate just to debate. I visit this site and some similar ones with the thought in mind that perhaps, in some small way, I might be able to express why White survival is important and what it actually… Read more »
Urbanus_II
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Stay White in all ways.

Is tanning allowed?

Urbanus_II
Guest
The hypothetical dilemmas are easily resolved. I’m reluctant to engage in discussion with people I feel are trolling or throwing out “gotcha” questions. You may possibly be interested in an actual discussion, so I’ll play along. The answer to your question is easy: you save ten people (assuming no intrinsically evil act is committed in the process). Instead, it is to try to gently point out the error in thinking that some Whites have in putting secondary things such as “culture,” “civilization,” “Western Man,” “society,” “conservatism,” “Americanism,” and, yes, “religion,” etc. in front of Whiteness. This is a point of… Read more »
Evolver1
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Here for those who may not have followed this whole thread is Urbanus ll’s reply to my question about whether he would save ten Black Christians rather than one White pagan (or White atheist, etc.) if he could only save the Blacks or the White: “The answer to your question is easy: you save ten people [Blacks] (assuming no intrinsically evil act is committed in the process).[and not the White]” You will note that he tries to sidestep the term Blacks and instead uses “humans.” Does Urbanus ll sound pro-White to you? He doesn’t sound that way to me. FYI… Read more »
Urbanus_II
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You will note that he tries to sidestep the term Blacks and instead uses “humans.”

The Alt White must be scientifically illiterate.

Evolver1
Guest

Well, there it is. You would save the Blacks and not the White. Very sad choice for the survival of Whites. Clearly, you are not pro-White. This puts you beyond the pale for me. Shouldn’t you be over on some anti-White site?

Urbanus_II
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I already knew you were beyond the pale – an enemy of Christ, truth, Western Civilization and the European people.

Evolver1
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Very silly comment from a person who would save Blacks over Whites. That’s not something I would ever do. You put loyalty in secondary things, not what is absolutely primary and essential to who and what we are. Long before Christianity, Western Civilization or European nations, we were. And these secondary things you wrongly put before our White genome are products of our White genome, not the other way around. You are an enemy of White people and have shown by your answer that you would save Blacks over Whites that your priorities are upside down. Of course, it may… Read more »
Urbanus_II
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You’re too intectually short to ride this train. Go back to your cave.

Evolver1
Guest

Where are you and your genes in the concept “truth?”

Urbanus_II
Guest

Your question is incoherent. Formulate a well defined proposition and then maybe we can proceed.

Rascal
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I would suggest an objective morality based on the reality of the age. A lot can change over the course of 10 years, let alone 2 thousand.

Urbanus_II
Guest

Interesting. What comes to mind is some form of consequentialism.

Rascal
Guest

That is a rather concise way of putting it. In another age I would have been a devout Catholic and joined their crusades to free the holy lands. In this age I am not a devout Catholic because the pope kisses the feet of Muslim invaders.

Urbanus_II
Guest

The truth of the matter does not concern you? It appears that what matters to you is what is expedient to your own particular goals.

Rascal
Guest

The truth is, the pope, the leader of the Catholic church, washes and kisses the feet of invading Muslims. How can I objectively align with a person who protects those that wish to do harm to the most valuable thing in my life, my child? This would go against not only the reality of this age, but very nature itself.

Urbanus_II
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Because the Catholic Church is the One, True, Apostolic Church and guided by the Holy Spirit. The Pope is the successor of Saint Peter. We have a moral obligation to obey the authority of the Church. I know this is difficult for the liberal mind to fathom. In the liberal mind we are all are own authority in our own personal domain. Liberalism cannot be tamed, it cannot be moderated or arbitrarily restricted; it must be completely rejected from its foundation. If you haven’t guessed yet, from my username you should know how I feel about invading Muslims. I disagree… Read more »
Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

You username is nearly “Ur Anus the 2nd ” and there are no liberals here, sir.

Urbanus_II
Guest

Chances are you are a historically ignorant liberal.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

Chances are you’re a histrionic atheist.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

“Nearly”

Urbanus_II
Guest

Chances are you don’t know who Urbanus II is or what the heck Uranus is. I’d help you, but I don’t think you’d follow.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

How Christlike.

Urbanus_II
Guest

I can also help you with the etymology of liberalism.

Strogg
Guest

>etimology of liberalism

Let me guess, if you’re not Christian you’re a liberal? This seems to be the meme in the ”alt-christian” circles. Same false equivalence tactic Rational Skeptics™ use against their WN opponents – ”You’re just like SJW’s with your identity politics!!!”

Urbanus_II
Guest
Not exactly, but your moving in the right direction. I’ll use socialism and fascism as an example. They are often thought of as being polar opposites, but they are competing ideologies within the same species. Mussolini was a student of Marx and devout socialist, but he realized that people didn’t really identify as abstract workers, but instead identified with their nation. If socialism was going to be a reality, so he thought, it was not going to happen globally, but within the nation. This made him an enemy of the socialist and thus “right-wing”. It’s still unclear to me whether… Read more »
Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

I’m sure you know plenty about liberalism.

Rascal
Guest
I am not a liberal. While I do not answer directly to a church, especially one currently led by a pro Muslim communist (make Catholicism great again), I have to answer to my people. I will have to look in my child’s eyes when she is a stranger in the land of her birth right and tell her how and why this happened. Same to you. I try to be reasonable, but sometimes I fail. Besides, in the end I don’t really have a problem with someone like you when in most scenarios we would be sharing a fox hole,… Read more »
Urbanus_II
Guest

God.

Rascal
Guest

How about your children (assuming you have them), are they the source of any value?

Urbanus_II
Guest

No human being is the source of value, rather the dignity of the human person is rooted in his creation in the image and likeness of God. If I had children it would be my duty to protect them and defend them within proper moral constraints. It is perfectly reasonable to love your own children more than the children of others. Human beings simply do not have the capacity to love everyone equally. Not sure if that is what you were trying to get at, but I could see it going there.

Rascal
Guest

That is the problem with identifying sources of value, and why there is no absolute morality in my opinion. My kid is the single largest representation, or source of value in my life. She is the most valuable thing to me. Do I expect others to agree with this? Of course not. There are others that abort their own kids, let alone care about mine.

It is far easier to get a group of people to objectively agree that kids are in general important, than it is to get them to agree to the absolute morality of this ideal.

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

The source of all “Truth and Value” is not Christianity, that’s for sure. (Western) Christianity has some pleasantly familiar and heartwarming cultural features, but when you get down to it, it’s as man-made as any other religion.

Jusqu'au Bout
Guest

Absolutely. Hebrew/Israelite Christianity is much different than Western European Christianity. For example, compare the Coptic’s to the Northern European Christians.

Urbanus_II
Guest

The source of all Truth and Value is God.

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
Guest
silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

Even ‘God’ is man-made.

Urbanus_II
Guest

On that we disagree.

invincible white owl
Guest

Elaborate: what IS important (in your view), & what is its proper context?

Laguna Beach Fogey
Guest

This is for the Asian fetishists…

Asian savages (mostly Chinese) rioting in Paris against the French state:

https://www.rt.com/news/382557-china-summons-france-citizen-death/

Eli Mosley
Guest

The above article is great, but check out this comment in that post that is directed right at us. There is no hope for this man or his rice-children.comment image

John Golt
Guest

Wow be good goys or they’ll genocide you. Umm were the people in South Africa not nice enough? Is Germany too intolerant for this cuck? We tried multiculturalism and it failed. White birth rates can go back up if you stopped taxing the white people to death to prop up the welfare state so minorities can have 8 kids on our dime. What a piece of shit. This article was far too nice to him.

millermp1
Guest

How does he rationalize the success of Israel? Clearly it can be done. Or maybe he thinks that ethnostate, too, is on the brink of collapse, but i wouldn’t bet on it.

Dr. James Russel, PhD
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Dr. James Russel, PhD

Chapman is public enough that he’d have to disavow white supremacy to keep most of the support he has, its best to ignore comments like these and move on. Not everyone can swallow the redpill all the way.

Ike35
Guest

Well that’s it for this one folks. He’s done a full monty cuck. Greg Johnson is right, all these alt-lite cucks are either diaspora jews or white race mixers. It never takes these assholes long to punch right that’s for damn sure. Fuck’em. Their naive blather isn’t good enough and they apparently want no help from us. Fine with me Kyle, your position has been dutifully noted and you’ll get no help from we white nationalists, I solemnly swear to that.

David Crockett
Guest

Whites will be the largest group for longer than just another 40 years. They count Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, etc…as 1 group of people? I’d like to see those groups try to agree on anything.

LyovMyshkin
Guest

So basically his views are no different than BIll Clinton. Be nice and inclusive now or we’ll get it in the future.

Based AF.

socialoracle
Guest

He married an Asian. I’m sure she made him say that.

Bruce Regael
Guest
It was pretty clear once it was discovered he had a non-white partner and offspring that it would lead him to this conclusion. It’s always the same. The laughable liberal framework that has taken over libertarians and conservatives aside, when someone is invested in this blended society they will never stand for any agenda that furthers their groups best interest. I’ve heard on Red Ice and other places that there are mixed couples who agree with our standpoints, but it should be noted that they will never fully support it because it puts their future in jeopardy should we be… Read more »
Vincent Law
Guest

Very nice find. “Don’t speak up or you’ll end up getting hurt.” Based indeed.

AJ
Guest

Kind of fishy. Those are familiar talking points. Seems like a Jewish guy trying to demoralize us.

H8Cr1me
Guest

He’s correct.

Rascal
Guest

> Whites, you better support the very thing that is going to kill you off in the long run.

The guy is a meat head.

Crud Bonemeal
Guest

He’s wrong that promoting a multi-racial civic nationalism based on a blended America would be good for our descendants.

They’d come to resemble dysgenic tri-racial Latin American favela dwellers.

If WN fails then America is not worth saving, American Nationalism is nonsensical and smart people should be looking to escape from the third world American future.

Evolver1
Guest

Our nation, our religion, our civilization, our culture is within our White DNA code. It is our White DNA code that should be the focus of our loyalty and allegiance. And, if we hold an allegiance to a land or a nation, those things must be ALL White and not mixed.

Evola-Chan
Guest

lol he thinks the dank black guy in a Trump hat isn’t going to rape and murder his children as long as he votes for magic soil nationalism

Ike35
Guest

Fuckin Based!!

ALostSoul
Guest

In all fairness, I doubt the black guy in a Trump hat is going to be rapist and murderer. I would be more worried about his children or grandchildren however. Regression to the mean, ya know.

Jarod
Guest

Wow…

Not man enough to get a White woman so he marries a bag of rice and starts counter-signalling us…

positron1
Guest

Who knows, maybe he used to be married to a neo-Nazi’s wet dream with blond hair, blue eyes, and an angel’s face but she turned out to be a materialistic harpy who is unclear on the concept of monogamy. That’s my story, and now I’m with a dark-skinned Latina who is the opposite of that. Ironically, you’ll probably call me a cuck.

TruthTeller
Guest

Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. I did too.

Jarod
Guest

Cuck.

But seriously, you’ve joined the ranks of Stick Man, Paul Joseph Watson and the others; You’ve married down.

Your Latina married up so it’s no wonder she’s loyal to you.

positron1
Guest

People like you make me strongly suspect I’m in far better company.

Evolver1
Guest

No, you’re on the road to the genocide of your family.

positron1
Guest

If you are my family, I think I’ll be able to somehow pick up the pieces and go on with my life when you are gone.

Evolver1
Guest

Ah, no, I am not your family. And, you are no longer one of my people. You have chosen unwisely. When you die, your White family line that would have proceeded from you, had you chosen wisely, will also be dead.

positron1
Guest

I think I’ll be all right. Maybe you can find my ex. She’s still out there. Hypergamous as they come and with quite a notch count by now. She is blond though. She’s got that going for her.

Evolver1
Guest

So, a bad experience with a White woman has turned you against White women.

You simply made a poor choice in that instance and now you’ve made another poor choice with your non-White wife.

You may be happy with your choice of a non-White woman, but life is short and you are now a broken link in the chain leading to you from your 100% White ancestors and the future. With you, just as with JEB Bush, your White family line is turning non-White. This is bedroom genocide of the White genome.

positron1
Guest

Relax man. I’m going to be OK and you probably will be too.

Evolver1
Guest

Life is short. What continues on is our genome. In it, we live, if we have chosen wisely and have made more like ourselves. If we have not made more like ourselves, we end.

positron1
Guest
“If we have not made more like ourselves, we end.” I don’t know if it’s possible for you to understand how insane you sound. Words (cuckold, end, wisdom) mean the exact opposite of what they actually mean to you. When I married my wife I made a conscious decision to have my genetic line NOT end. I was 40, had a ton of money saved up after working in her country for a few years, and I’d planned on surfing in Central America until it got warm in Europe, then heading back there. I speak several languages and I enjoy… Read more »
TruthTeller
Guest

I give him a ton of credit. What he did took courage. But yeah, the lecture wasn’t necessary.

marijan
Guest

Ok he’s officially just a faggot who doesn’t like antifa. Doesn’t make him a hero, just makes him have common sense which isn’t much

VaronosMinxaouzen
Guest

I was allways against ANY FORM of race mixing, not nation-mixing though considering some parameters. Now I saw why race-mixing should be avoided: it is bad for the mind too. It is sad to see such a man not wanting to care at all for his own people, as anything else but individuals!

TruthTeller
Guest

It comes down to the inability of some men to refrain from pursuing sexual desires into a no-go zone. I am no Tom Brady but I live in a diverse cesspool and have had several what would be considered very attractive Latinas who wanted me. I didn’t bite because I knew that there would be no way I’d be able to have nonwhite children.

positron1
Guest

Well, not exactly no way. I’m of almost 100% Scandinavian and English descent. My wife is a dark-skinned Latina with a thick accent when she speaks English, and our baby is lily white, whiter than me actually, to the point that people here in Central America often comment on how “blanquita” she is. Our landlady was holding her once and commented that “this one has no Indian blood.”

Relax, we got married years ago, long before I’d ever thought about all this race realism stuff.

epleguy
Guest

In 10 years she will be much darker. When she’s all grown up, she’ll be alien looking.

positron1
Guest

Any evidence, Fritz? I live in one of the most indigenous parts of Latin America. You still see locals as light as my daughter sometimes.

epleguy
Guest

You said your wife is dark skinned. Your daughter will become the same as time pass.

positron1
Guest

It doesn’t work that way, though. You see families down here with varying skin tones between members including children lighter than parents all the time. If you’d actually been anywhere or learned anything about the rest of the world you’d know that. I realize you are of the ilk that will bitterly argue that the sky is green and feel confident you’re right, though.

epleguy
Guest

This must have hit you really hard since you came back after two months. Bless.

positron1
Guest

Just noticed it.

positron1
Guest

I read English. I asked you for evidence.

ALostSoul
Guest
Latina is a broad term that generally describes brown people south of the US border. These ‘brown’ people can range in their genetic makeup to mostly European (in the case of many Puerto Ricans) to Africans (Hondurans) to Ameridians (tribes in the Amazonian rain forest) and everything in between. It’s very plausible that your wife has a significant amount of European component to her DNA that is masked by her darker traits. Because chromosomes are randomly assorted during the production of gamete cells its likely your child received a higher proportion of your wife’s European chromosomes vs the non-European ones.… Read more »
Evolver1
Guest

So, your family line forward from you is non-White. You have changed the trajectory of your family from your self described “almost 100% Scandinavian and English [read 100% White] to non-White. You have not chosen wisely.

TruthTeller
Guest

No offense but I wouldn’t advise any white to procreate with your nonwhite child.

Evolver1
Guest
Right. When humans mate, each partner supplies approximately half of their genome to a new child. This half can be further defined as approximately 1.5 billion combinations of our DNA code, containing approximately 10,000 genes and 23 chromosomes. The new child then ends up with appx. 3 billion combos of the the DNA code, appx 20,000 genes and 46 chromosomes. There is more to this of course, involving dominant vs. recessive genes, etc. but the point is that a White who miscegenates cannot produce a fully White child with any non-White. The child will always carry about half of the… Read more »
positron1
Guest

I’m not offended. I don’t really do offended. I’m just interested in the whole topic. Some of you white nationalists seem almost as deluded as the SJWs at times, then on the other hand, you sometimes make some good points.

Are you working in the US? If so, how do you manage to stay employed? Just hide your views on race at work?

Harry Savannah
Guest

“…as deluded as the SJWs….”

You’re offended alright.

positron1
Guest

If it makes you happy to think so, go on I suppose. You’re behaving like a woman though.

Harry Savannah
Guest

Woman? Lol. What dark corner of your mind did that emerge from?

positron1
Guest

It’s a frequent female shit test. “You’re upset.” “No I’m not” “No, I can’t tell that you’re upset” and she keeps it up until you actually are upset, if you let her.

You’re fueling my suspicion that you WN guys who obsess most about who other guys choose to bed have little if any experience with women of any color.

Harry Savannah
Guest

Hilarious. The more you open that ridiculous mouth of yours, the more “offended” you show yourself to be. And by the way, to address another point – you’re just plain FOS

positron1
Guest

It’s not going to work, honey.

Harry Savannah
Guest

Just go away perverse race-mixer.

positron1
Guest

Relax. Just poking fun at your hysterical, effeminate mannerisms. Thought you were clever enough to get that. You’ll be all right.

Harry Savannah
Guest

Lol. Who do you think you’re fooling with your “point-and-sputter” delusions? What everyone can really see here is that you’ve revealed yourself to be a homo . I’m “relaxed” you’re not within miles of me.

positron1
Guest

Think that if you wish, I suppose, but I imagine you’re projecting and struggling with some same sex attractions issues (I wasn’t the one who thought of gay sex, that was you). I didn’t particularly enjoy smacking you down, but you jumped into a cordial discussion looking for a fight with womanly tactics so I had to.

Are you a Richard Spencer fan? He’s made some conciliatory remarks toward homosexuals. It’s not necessary to hate them to be a WN, or be ashamed if you really are struggling with attraction toward other men.

Harry Savannah
Guest

“…smacking you down….”

Like I said, you’re delusional. And your prolix comments suggest you to be a tedious bore. As a Christian I must apologize, however, for the likely slanderous remark I made concerning you. I extend my apology, requesting your pardon.

positron1
Guest
Slanderous remarks? I hadn’t really noticed. You jumped in on what was once and interesting and informative conversation looking for a fight. That was annoying, but hey, it’s the Internet. You’re one among millions of people who do that kind of thing, unfortunately. Anyway, no offense taken. I apologize too. You might not actually struggle with same sex attraction, although you do seem to think about gay sex more than is healthy, and to be hiding some kind of shame about it, but like I said, there are gay white nationalists out there, as far as I know. Regardless, you… Read more »
Harry Savannah
Guest

Let me make one final attempt to give some advice to a very callow, presumptuous and laughably self-serving young man. As a married man of 42 years and with well over a dozen grandchildren I think I am in a position to instruct you. First, no one here cares about your personal notions about race-mixing. Other than to make a comment or two in reply to you on a WN blog. Also, your adolescent arrogance and recklessness of thought and speech (writing) will not serve you well going forward. A word to the wise should be sufficient. Good luck.

positron1
Guest

I’m actually several years older than you. I was involved in an interesting and cordial conversation before you jumped in looking for a fight. Stop doing that if you want to be mature and avoid getting smacked around.

I don’t know if struggling with homosexuality or some other form of sexual frustration is what makes you behave as you do, it’s just my best guess based on closet cases and guys who can’t get women who I’ve known.

Harry Savannah
Guest

There are drugs for mental cases that repeat themselves. Have your guardian look into it. You badly need a good medication. I just want to help, my elderly friend.

positron1
Guest

You’re being passive aggressive now, another womanly trait. I’ll keep pointing out that you shouldn’t jump into conversations looking for a fight if you don’t want to get smacked around if you keep coming back for more.

Harry Savannah
Guest

There’s that compulsive repetition again, including delusions and bizarre notions. Very sad to see a troubled person, especially an elderly one, not see that they have a mental illness. There is help for you if only you would recognize your need and seek such help. I urge you to do so.

positron1
Guest
You know, you’re right. It is crazy to keep trying the same thing and expect a different result. I’m really just annoyed with you for derailing what was an enjoyable and informative conversation. Otherwise I wouldn’t have pointed out or even noticed probably that you exhibit signs of sexual frustration. It’s common in guys who marry early and never develop any ability or experience with women, as it is with closet cases. Whichever you are, I don’t envy you. Anyway, let’s call a truce. You leave me to my “insanity” I’ll leave you to whatever it is you’re dealing with.… Read more »
Harry Savannah
Guest
“…let’s call a truce.” Well, sure. I’m a peaceable man, one of goodwill. “You leave me to my ‘insanity’….” You’re a little hard on yourself I would say. Ridiculous? Yes. A poor example of a human being? It is clear from your degenerate remarks. But I never said you were insane – just another example, I believe, of your decrepit cast-of-mind. As for “derailing” some “conversation” you insist you were having, I should point out that this is perhaps the fourth time you have complained about such. Hate to say it but – there you go again. But let me… Read more »
positron1
Guest

I’ll leave you to your projections.

Harry Savannah
Guest

derp

TruthTeller
Guest

It seems to me that your interest in race realism is academic: you’re curious about the science of race and you’re willing to go where the data lead. You don’t seem committed to this on a visceral, emotional level. This I believe is something that you either feel in your gut or you don’t. At the age of 12 I could have told you that the idea of race mixing is anathema.

TruthTeller
Guest

What specifically is “deluded” about anything I’ve said? Being staunchly against race mixing is pretty basic on these forums.

positron1
Guest
I didn’t mean you specifically. You said in another post that my interest in race relations is academic. That’s not exactly right, but I certainly don’t feel the visceral repulsion at race mixing that most WNs do. I’m more in Heartiste and Matt Forney’s camp. Both are generally opposed but have given it their blessing if you’re in love and not doing it to be trendy. As far as deluded WNs, by way of example I once asked a spergy WN to provide evidence that mixed race children are mentally unstable. He snarkily replied by simply posting a picture of… Read more »
TruthTeller
Guest

Minor point: (I’m speaking about the white men that I know who are with nonwhite spouses.) None of them did it to be trendy. They did it because they found a woman who accepted them and don’t have a concept of racial loyalty. The notion that people do it to be “trendy” seems far-fetched. I have never had any interest in the first one and what I’ve read from Forney had no value at all.

positron1
Guest

It seems to me that for some people, particularly women, virtue signaling is a big part of getting into mixed race relationships.

TruthTeller
Guest

Yes I’m very tired right now so I think you’re on to something the more I think about it. What a pathetic reason…all part of the conditioning. A white’s greatest aspiration in this cesspool culture is to show how much s/he doesn’t favor his own race.

TruthTeller
Guest

OK, in the case of women you might be on to something. I have read that some of these sheltered white sluts think it’s fucking cool to screw niggers when they go off to college. So fucking foul.

positron1
Guest

I’ve heard the claim the German and Swedish women feel that they have to sleep with Africans and Muslims to prove their non-racist credentials. That’s the kind of thing I oppose.

Evolver1
Guest

You were probably called a cuck because you have mated with a non-White and are now raising a non-White child. That is one of the main definitions of being a cuck in the sense that many of us who are awakened use it.

positron1
Guest

I much prefer being this kind of cuck (happy with my life and with a beautiful, feminine wife who believes feminism is satanic) to being an actual cuck in the dictionary sense.

TruthTeller
Guest

I don’t work in the US. When I did, I didn’t socialize with anyone. You mentioned “social ostracism”. In my personal interactions I will give my opinion if someone wants it. I don’t have a ton of trusted friends. I’ve lost some acquaintances who didn’t like my views and in one case it went the other way. I abruptly stopped seeing a white woman who disagreed with me on affirmative action.

ThomasER916
Guest

Race isn’t just skin color.

positron1
Guest

I agree, but on the other hand, race isn’t everything. Latin America has its problems, oh so many problems, but some things are actually superior here. For example, you’d have a hard time finding a Salvadoran or Honduran who wouldn’t consider a man who believes he’s a woman mentally ill. That kind of talk will get you socially ostracized or worse among the white population of much of the USA.

Evolver1
Guest
You’re mistaken. Race, and by this I mean the genome that makes races different, IS everything that matters. All else flows from this either in the short run or the long run of history. Whites are on an evolutionary trajectory different from other races and it will eventually lead to Whites being a separate species IF gene flow is stopped and we don’t blend in with darker humanity. You have already accepted gene flow from darker humanity into your family line by your unwise mating choice. This takes you off the White evolutionary trajectory. Your family forward from you is… Read more »
TruthTeller
Guest

Socially ostracized? Do you think that’s a concern of anyone here who is committed to his race? I relish the opportunity to tell anyone who’s interested what I think about any particular racial issue. I’ve lost several normie friends who couldn’t handle my views and I couldn’t care less. The more it happened, the easier it became, and now it is a source of amusement. I have more respect for posters here whom I’ve never met than those pathetic drones who are influenced by “fashionable” (nod to WLP) trends and peer pressure.

KilltheBank
Guest

Ive no time for cunty cucks.
If they take issue with my beliefs then we werent even friends to begin with.

Evolver1
Guest

We have free will to choose good or evil. For Whites to choose non-Whites to mate with is evil. It pollutes our White genome and steals our essential Whiteness and hijacks our White sperm and our White eggs to make non-Whites. It turns us into non-White baby factories.

It’s a little like SciFi movies where space aliens use humans to reproduce more space aliens. The difference is that miscegenation with non-Whites really does happen and it really does reproduce more non-Whites using us as the necessary chemical ingredient to do so.

TruthTeller
Guest

He’s missing the understanding that conflicts aren’t won by numbers; they’re won by quality.

positron1
Guest

“Quantity has a quality all of its own” Joseph Stalin supposedly said.

TruthTeller
Guest

That applies to WW2 but it wouldn’t translate to the issue here. It’s not thousands of moderately inferior Red Army tanks being operated by white soldiers. It’s a completely different set of logistics.

positron1
Guest
It will be interesting to see how it plays out, if it really comes to race war as your side is saying. I wouldn’t have believed it possible up until recently, but then again it was you guys on the alt.right who predicted a Trump win with confidence, so I take your opinions seriously now. What becomes of a race mixer like me and my family in that scenario? I really don’t see myself throwing my lot in with the Bolsheviks, but if you guys won’t accept me, I guess we’ll high tale it to one of the nice parts… Read more »
John Golt
Guest
I don’t want a race war I just think it’s probably going to happen. My kid is also mixed. Had her before I became “redpilled” and it really is a bummer for her. Noone on my family accepts her because she’s not white enough and no one out on the Rez accepts her because she’s not native enough. I think promoting white identity doesn’t have to be about hatred or violence. Maybe we could just stop with all the white guilt and incentivize white people to have more babies? Minor things like that could have a huge effect. Drug test… Read more »
Evolver1
Guest

Go to the Star Wars Bar. Should awakened Whites ever have a pure White homeland again, there will still be non-White nations and even brackish nations where you will fit right in.

positron1
Guest

Have you seen any of the trailers for the Gunslinger? Whereas in the book the main character is pretty obviously white, in the movie he’s black and Flagg is white. I’m not a hardcore WN, but even I notice that kind of thing and shake my head.

Hopefully if you guys take power and force my family out there will still be countries like Costa Rica out there.

TruthTeller
Guest

I don’t think it will come to that and I don’t want it to come to that. I don’t consider you an enemy.

positron1
Guest
I appreciate that. I don’ t toward you either, I’m actually interested in your (in the sense of “ustedes”) opinions. Hopefully you’re right and there won’t be a race war, but should it come to that I need to know where my family stands. Anyway, I recently tried to get a liberal white normie to at least try reading articles on unz.com to get a different perspective than the MSM. He immediately bolted upon reading somewhere that Ron Unz may have once donated money to a some organization that could be considered “white nationalist.” It’s a very sad state of… Read more »
TruthTeller
Guest

I understand well that “you” can be singular or plural by the way. LoL Of course nowadays you have to unfortunately assume that people don’t know these things.

TruthTeller
Guest

Yes it’s utterly amazing that guys like him have been so perfectly conditioned that they refuse to take their own side in anything. Meanwhile EVERY other racial group has unabashed solidarity and loyalty. The sickness is so great with cowards like him that I really believe he’d rather die than be thought a “racist”.

positron1
Guest

Exactly. I hate the word “racism” because I think of it as just a weapon of the left to batter their opposition into conformity. That said, my gauge as to whether something is inappropriately “racist” for a white person is to imagine the general reaction if a black or Latino were to do the same thing. The answer is almost always that it would be just fine.

TruthTeller
Guest

The double standard is indeed glaring and enraging.

invincible white owl
Guest

“In war, art, and enterprise, great quality can predominate over mere ‘numbers.’
Our Race’s history is replete with examples of this.” —Richard B. Spencer

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
Guest
silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

Well, WNs have no choice but to believe that. Unfortunately, quantity has a quality all its own – just as in basketball, you “can’t teach height.” At some point, all the quality in the world won’t help.

And anyway, I’m not so sure that WNs today are of above average quality to start with.

KilltheBank
Guest

No one cares what you think

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
Guest
silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

Doesn’t matter, I’m still right.

KilltheBank
Guest

Whatever you gotta say to make yourself not so sad

Marshall Lentini
Guest

B-b-but “more white babies”!!!!!

TruthTeller
Guest

Do you understand how different populations are dispersed across the country? Hint: not too much farmland in the South Side of Chicago or in the black ghettoes of NYC.

jaye VBellis
Guest

I live on the South Side of Chicago.

There is actually a lot of open land, open space here that can and should be used for agriculture. The all Black South Side has lost lots of population, it’s no longer heavily dense population.

Growing high end herbs for high end local restaurants makes sense. So much of Detroit is going back to nature, might as well harvest nature.

TruthTeller
Guest

Negro city dwellers don’t know how to farm and have virtually nowhere to farm even if they did. That’s the point.

jaye VBellis
Guest

Who says the Negro dwellers are going to farm these inner city areas?

More like urban pioneers (White people)

Displaced White farmers from South Africa can do a good job.

JosephtheGreat
Guest

I don’t know why anyone would have assumed he was a white nationalist. He bashed an antifa over the head. Okay? Everyone to the right of Michael Moore hates Antifa. He supported Donald Trump? And so did tens of millions of other people of which probably not even a third are white nationalist.

Rascal
Guest

Who assumed he was a WN? As soon as I saw he had an Asian wife I knew he wasn’t. IT is just incredibly stupid to signal against White people for these civic nationalists, considering they need our votes for their fantasy. Shit like this almost makes me hope Trump loses in 4 years.

Michael De Santa
Guest

Most people are looking for a hero. BSM was exactly that to most people. He was a white man sticking it to known enemies thus became a hero, which in turn, made people see him as a man for white people.

marijan
Guest

Not one of those gook lovers can say anything positive about WN because it makes them look bad. Still, they could say it’s a reasonable thing to fight for, but that’s too much to ask. These are flawed humans and they are the majority

invincible white owl
Guest

I don’t anyone ever did assume he was WN (especially after the yellow wife), but you’d think that when so many of the people who supported him (whether monetarily, memetically, with kind words/prayers/etc) are WN, he’d at least not of his own initiative countersignal us.
If some asshole interviewer was verbally cornering him or something, I’d give a bit more leeway, but this particular thing was so unnecessary. Truly not a classy thing to do, to put it kindly.

JosephtheGreat
Guest

The only answer is that he truly believes and accepts wholesale the narrative that racists are immoral people and he does not want our support. Would you refrain from attacking a pedophile if he supported you? I say this not to compare the two but to demonstrate the point that if you disagree with someone strong enough then their support is not going to mean much to you.

invincible white owl
Guest

If you’ve seen his (first) interview with McInnes though, he actually seems/d to “get it” re brown people: didn’t seem to be squeamish re things that mainstream people would find “racy.”
I do get your point re your analogy, but it’s doubtful that he actually does think it’s immoral or anything.
This just smacks of lame, pussified cucking, imao: probably got some flak from lefties, got “racist!” or even “White supremist!” lobbed at him a few times, & dissolved into cuckoldry. Sad!

Celestial Time
Guest

If specific racial identity politics is paramount to pro-Whites and other racialists, then it makes perfect sense that opposition to that specific kind of identity would be paramount to someone who will always have one foot planted firmly outside of a specific racial identity. No matter where the other foot lies, he/she will always be cemented by the outlying foot.

Laguna Beach Fogey
Guest

Some people in the Alt-Right are desperate for friends, acceptance, and approval from the outside, so they look for signs of sympathy where they don’t exist, and then they make fools of themselves.

It’s a major weakness with the Alt-Right.

There can be no compromise with these fuckers.

Michael De Santa
Guest

Definitely agree. It’s unfortunate that he just spat on his fanbase. Any smart business man will tell you not to alienate your base. BSM just ended his meme reign.

Rascal
Guest

The problem is, is when people preach a little caution, they get accused of “purity spiraling” far too quickly. I am so glad I didn’t donate to this guy, and didn’t play him up. Next time I will speak up about it too.

Besides, you don’t have to be a WN/Alt Right to NOT speak out directly against White interests like this guy has. This guy went beyond simple civic nationalism/alt lite, and spoke directly against White interests.

ThomasER916
Guest

I never donate unless I research. It took all of about 1 minute to discover his Asian wife and halfus. Whenever someone is mixing they’re against White interests. It’s just that simple.

marijan
Guest

This is so true. Based stick man was immediately a hero in the AltRight virtually overnight, fanboys were everywhere. It’s a bad look. Then again I’m AltReich so I wasn’t that impressed

JosephtheGreat
Guest

“Aggressive defense” sounds like a euphemism for violence. He hit someone over the head with a stick. That’s violence.

Not to say I disagreed with what he did. But let’s call a spade a spade and not be pussies with our words.

MylesStandish
Guest
Come on guys, gook wives are altright af. Mentally disturbed hapa offspring are the future of the white race. Based shitlords like Mitch McConnell and Jeff Sessions know all about that sweet, sweet mongol love; it’s so fashy. Sure, your house will smell like dead fish from all the exotic cooking and your kids will be insane, but that’s a small price to pay to avoid those yucky white hips and bosoms. We can all rest easy with based Oriental woman, Elaine Chao, at the helm of the the Department of Transportation. Selling off American infrastructure so that we can… Read more »
epleguy
Guest

((( THE BLACK PILL )))

Nothing_Much
Guest

Sarcasm?

Pilleater
Guest

Not the “white” race, but an Asian-Aryan one. I love my mom and her cooking. I don’t like ruthless Chinese and enjoy a fusion culture between the two. I would like my own ethnostate next to the White and Asian one, Thank you.

Laguna Beach Fogey
Guest

Not so based. But what else is new? Alt-Righters are always so willing to support unknown people who appear to support the cause. They end up looking like fools.

There can be no compromise with White men who mix with Asians.

jaye VBellis
Guest

A White guy with courage to fight Antifa Communists on the Campus of U Cal Berkeley and who is getting laid by Asian women, this guy can also get laid, mate with healthy White women. Let’s introduce him to some.

Ladies – please get to know this guy.

Vincent Law
Guest

It’s easier to get laid with an asian girl…thats why he did it. And then his political ideology followed.

Celestial Time
Guest
There are a lot of things you can be and still consider yourself and your views to be the antithesis to politically correct dogmas that have been the main ingredient in the raping and perverting of the Western World. But an anti-racist sure isn’t one of those things. If there’s one thing that ideologues of political correctness all rally around, it’s the constant cries of “racism” and the never-ending virtue signaling where they always use the “I’m not a racist” defense to attack you. Anyone not explicitly and proudly telling you they are pro-White is, more than likely, someone who… Read more »
Jason R.
Guest

well done, Nathan.

OhBoy
Guest

I can understand that he’s not a full white nationalist etc but there is no reason to say what he said. Just take a stance more similar to a Chuck Johnson who married and had children with an Asian.(or just shut the fuck up) Demographics matter even if you don’t think the US needs to be 100% white.

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