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The Left wants to use Christianity to police the Alt-Right

Left-wing, Jewish journalist Peter Beinart has a telling piece up at The Atlantic, “Breaking Faith: The culture war over religious morality has faded; in its place is something much worse,” about how the decline of Christianity has lead to an increase in racial identity, especially among many younger whites affiliated with the alt-right.  He writes:

“Secularism is indeed correlated with greater tolerance of gay marriage and pot legalization. But it’s also making America’s partisan clashes more brutal. And it has contributed to the rise of both Donald Trump and the so-called alt-right movement, whose members see themselves as proponents of white nationalism. As Americans have left organized religion, they haven’t stopped viewing politics as a struggle between “us” and “them.” Many have come to define us and them in even more primal and irreconcilable ways.”

As if there is something wrong with whites supporting and promoting their own interests.  Beinart then discusses Richard Spencer, Milo, and how secularization has lead to an increase in racial identity among both younger blacks and whites.  He concludes:

“Maybe it’s the values of hierarchy, authority, and tradition that churches instill. Maybe religion builds habits and networks that help people better weather national traumas, and thus retain their faith that the system works. For whatever reason, secularization isn’t easing political conflict. It’s making American politics even more convulsive and zero-sum.

For years, political commentators dreamed that the culture war over religious morality that began in the 1960s and ’70s would fade. It has. And the more secular, more ferociously national and racial culture war that has followed is worse.”

Beinart is basically correct but there is more to this story.  The two most basic forms of identity are racial / ethnic identity and religious identity.  When the two intersect and form an ethno-religion, which is basically what Judaism is, the religion of Beinart’s co-ethnics, one probably has the strongest identity possible.  (Most early pagan religions were also racial ethno-religions, and arguably some forms of Christianity were too.)

The problem, however, is that Beinart can’t just wave his magic wand and resurrect Christianity to police white people — as much as he may wish it.  The irony is that mainstream Christianity today is on a universalist trajectory that would repel the very people that Beinart wants to police.  As I noted in a previous post, “Is Contemporary Christianity a Suicide Cult?,” contemporary Christianity is becoming more and more effeminate and seems to repulse more manly men.  For example, regarding the recent controversy to expel open-borders Russell Moore from his leadership of the ERLC, just take a look on Twitter at some of Moore’s most ardent defenders:  Nearly all of them literal cuckolds or Christian SJWs.

In short, Beinart fails to recognize that Christianity had a greater hold on young white men when it was in fact more like the alt-right, when it wasn’t as extremely universalistic as it is today and didn’t eschew racial identity for whites.

(Crossposted at Occam’s Razor.)

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Happy Saint Patrick’s Day (it’s already Friday here in East Asia). Today we celebrate the peaceful conversion of our people out of darkness when Roman civilization was brought to the darkness of Ireland. Drink some beer, be merry, and forget about the negative children on here who hate their own heritage. They will grow up one day or go away. Peace and Love.

Son of Henry
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Son of Henry

There is not a congregation, priesthood, or church that wouldn’t dress you down for espousing the 14 words. I’m still Christian but I have to go it alone privately with my family without a church.

TonySandos
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TonySandos

addendum;
whenever I see a “rightwing” writing persona lambasting Christianity, it never fails the individual writing the piece himself holds some irredeemable trait that excludes him from Christianity (greg Johnson) therefore he proposes ideas to reshape society that’s inclusive to his depravities while excluding specific people or ideas that he is individually in opposition to. it’s somewhat humorous actually. I wonder what Alfred clark’s degeneracy is. are you a sodomite like greg Johnson? like your hard drugs? or is it that you refuse to let go of your Japanese cartoon porn like so many other alt right paladins?

Mark Citadel
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While I agree with your sentiment, I think you may be unfairly characterizing this author. He writes that Christianity was far more popular when it was not in conflict with kin preference, and this is undeniably true. What I will say is that he misjudges this as correlation = causation, when in fact they aren’t really related. Most people who apostatize from Christianity, most young white men, are not “white nationalists” and do not quit because of churches cucking. They quit for the general reasons of secularization: other distractions, lack of family-endowed traditions, lack of state expectation, pop atheism, media… Read more »

TonySandos
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TonySandos

thank you mark. I let some admission of what is likely an unconscious confirmation bias fluster me. I’ve ran across your writing before and know that you tend to be elucidating. as you alluded to, lack of introspection distracts from discovering actual solution. in my opinion, it’s also given way to rebuffing difficult to address issues by individuals shouting down rightful criticism with claims of said critics being cucks or anti-white. we simply have too many issues being debated using demotic language when it should remain solely in the intellectual realm. as oversimplifications have taken over and given rise to… Read more »

Mark Citadel
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bear in mind, America has no experience of Traditional Christianity, or indeed ANY Tradition whatsoever. It was born from degeneracy at the start. The people “fleeing religious persecution in Europe” were the various zealots and misfits deemed non-conducive to European flourishing. This makes it even more amusing perhaps when Americans think they have a Pagan Tradition in their past, which is an even bigger stretch. Americans have never been allowed to express themselves in any Traditional manner because of the state ideology that comes with being a Revolutionary state. The only thing that comes close perhaps is the deep south… Read more »

TonySandos
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TonySandos

I concur Mark. Well spoken

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Some were chased by shadows.

Ever have dozens of blacks show up to your church? What about mestizos?

The fact is you’re denying White Flight is happening in churches due to demographics.

Mark Citadel
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You honestly think the decline of religion, which has been happening since WWI, across the West… is due to white flight. Please point to a single study on secularization to support this outlandish claim.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916
ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Why are you here?

You can’t even turn your church pro-White. Go do that first then come back to us.

David McNight
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David McNight

ThomasER916 You won’t be around long enough to return to; that’s putting it mildly.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

I’ll be around longer than White churches.

Oh wait! There are no White churches!

Crud Bonemeal
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Crud Bonemeal

“I wonder what your degeneracy is. are you a sodomite like greg Johnson? like your hard drugs?”

I’m racist

Afterthought
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Afterthought

God wants the nations.

If the alt right wants to be anti-God they will be swept away.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Go to church and tell them you want to “help the White community” and “help White people get married and have nice White families.”

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JPS
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JPS

The Cultural/religious war that Pat Buchanan made his speech about in 1992 hasn’t faded. Jewish controlled media aren’t going to admit that Trump won in part by appealing to Christians and Catholics, using rhetoric that was far stronger than past GOP candidates. When the Jewish media announces that abortion and “gay marriage” are set in stone, what they really mean is that they’ve decided they’re not going to tolerate dissent on those issues, that they intend to make dissent on those issues economically suicidal. Hillary was openly talking about forcing Christian sects to change their teachings. Now it’s certainly true… Read more »

Chadwick D. Prestington
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Chadwick D. Prestington

We need a new, strong, family-oriented, masculine, white nationalist Christianity such as that advocated by Vox Day. People want to be a part of powerful growing movements and are sick of spending Sunday morning listening to a rock band full of nu-males singing ‘Praise Songs’ followed by an anti-white sermon delivered by a ‘hip’ lesbian pastor, without any actual worship.

TonySandos
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TonySandos

this blog is another example in a long line of why “righton” is wrong about everything. religion is the defining factor of what is right or left. it was the root of culture from prehistoric man to the defining French revolution from where the rightwing-leftwing division originates. in short, you’re a roleplaying secularists that is also interested in ethnic composition, but still woefully liberal, and like much of the alt right, more illiterate on genetic study than they believe.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

It’s obviously you couldn’t even make it past the title.

David McNight
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David McNight

ThomasER916 How did you go from liberalism to conservatism overnight? Where’s the loyalty?

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

My loyalty is to the White race, not to institutions, ideologies or football clubs. I’m not some cuckfag like you who keeps rooting for a team when my race has been displaced.

David McNight
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David McNight

Hello! Is anybody down this rabbit hole? Hello! My brothers on the level, turn and face the East, I have a little gem to share to put your minds at ease. We’ve been called many names down through history: the builders, the knights Templar, most of you know us today as freemasons. The Holy Books don’t belong to the people, though we permit you to take custody of them. We care not if you call yourselves Jews, Christians, Muslims, etc. it’s all religious dogma to us! We have shaped your minds and set governments in place to govern you as… Read more »

Timothy Adams
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Timothy Adams

Most of this transcendentalism masquerading as faith is nothing to morn to begin with

Skywalker
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Skywalker

I live in Grandrapids, the mecca of Reformed Christianity, and i’m Reformed Baptist. These denominations, Reformed, Reformed Baptist, Reformed Presbyterian, Orthodox Presbyterian, Puritan Reformed tend to be more biblical, that is everything we believe has to have its roots in the bible. Most Post Modern American churches, which are pretty much the majority of Christianity in the US, are not biblical. They have become social clubs, without any theological substance and devoid of meaning. These are the Churches you think of. My Reformed peers know I’m a nationalist. Though some of them would call me a heretic, Most of my… Read more »

Ryan
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Ryan

We have to do away with Christianity and Islam, and then just make sure we don’t drift too far to the left.

Basically, what we need is the Republicans without the Christianity part. Christianity goes against individual responsibility.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Yes, Jews (as we all know) played no small role in pushing subversive, Leftist ideals onto the West. But in America, the Christian Socialist party of the late 19th Century also pushed our politics in that direction as well. And I can already hear the response to this comment: ” But, but, but those weren’t the REAL Christians!”

Martin
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Martin

Christianity and civic nationalism play well together, ethno nationalism not so much.

June of 44
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June of 44

Theory of Relativity : Culture war over religious morality culminates with Watergate, and the release of Alice Cooper’s ‘School’s out’ resulting in the abolishment of govt and corruption in the form of technology. The National and Racial culture war is in direct correlation with this, as an attempt to free ourselves from persecution at the hands of liberalist feminists and multi-culturalism. Technology however, is all that survived the seventies. iBooth at the start of this decade enabled us to continue to believe that society exists. This is not true.

James Futurist
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Say something to the right of Michael Moore and these out of touch leftists assume you don’t believe in dinosaurs. When you explain that your desires for cleansing and eugenics is rooted in kill dry logic and biology they always give some entertaining reactions.

Diversity Heretic
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Diversity Heretic

Is anyone familiar enough with the Eastern Orthodox Church to offer any insight into how it stands on the universalism of Christianity? My impression is that it is more nationalistic, there are Greek and Russian Orthodox Churches, for example. But I’ve also read that certain Orthodox Churches and Patriarchs are as cucked as the Roman Catholic and mainstream Protestant churches are now. Is there any hope in the Orthodox Church?

Hipster Racist
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The Orthodox Church does not want a bunch of American WNs pretending to convert and using their name in vain to LARP about mid 20th century fascism in Eastern Europe.

They already excommunicated one WN asshole for doing that. Leave Orthodoxy alone!

If you need a new church, join mine, the First European Christian Church of America. We believe in the True Christianity, and none of the cucked Christianity, and Jesus Christ himself told us he wants us to be pro-white and to to ensure the existence of our people and a future for White children.

Send your love offerings to hipsterracist@yahoo.com.

Mark Citadel
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For the record, Heimbach was not excommunicated (lol, this power doesn’t really exist in Orthodoxy). He was denied the Mysteries by a local parish run by an American. He then went to a Romanian priest and… low and behold… no problems.

craicher
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craicher

People here seem to be confused. The church is about the afterlife not politics. Or that is how it should be. In the proper Traditional world, the church is subservient to state power and the state, that is politcs, is where we fight the battles for our survival not in freaking church!

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

“The church is about the afterlife not politics.”

Translation: the church is useless to the White race and will sell you out to rent space in Jewish heaven with all of black and brown Christians.

craicher
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craicher

Incredible ignorance. You obviously don’t get out much and have very little real life experience. You seem to be a sociopath by your lack of empathy and understanding even for your own people and ancestors.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You really are retarded. I already set you straight on Mexico as I’ve traveled to Mexico over 200 times and you haven’t even gone once.

craicher
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craicher

How do you know if I have been to Mexico? You truly are a mental case. I would wager you are institutionalized. Which is a good thing. We don’t need people like you on the loose.

Mark Citadel
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I love reading Americans on religion. It makes for a good laugh

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

I love autistic White Eurocucks posturing enlightenment as your governments and churches choose the Turd World over themselves. It makes for a good laugh.

SLCain
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SLCain

““Maybe it’s the values of hierarchy, authority, and tradition that churches instill. Maybe religion builds habits and networks that help people better weather national traumas, and thus retain their faith that the system works. For whatever reason, secularization isn’t easing political conflict. It’s making American politics even more convulsive and zero-sum.”

Gosh, you’d almost think that the decline of christianity is turning out to be a bad thing. I wonder who it was who sought its’ decline, anyway?

Urbanus_II
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Urbanus_II

Too many idolatrous and clueless pagan commentators to keep track of!

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

European Pagans are almost as bad as the Heathen Chinee!

Dillon Francis
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Dillon Francis

The author should look into apostolic forms of Christianity, not the protestant churches which have been going down the wrong road for decades.

craicher
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craicher

Dear lost pagan satanists, does it not strike you that the most Christian nations are the most resilient in Europe? Does it not strike you that the moat post Christian nations in Northern Europe are the farthest gone? Does it not strike you that the Christian South in the USA is the most racist while the post Christian Pacific Northwest have their sisters and daughters riding the black whip?

Hipster Racist
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“Does it not strike you that the Christian South in the USA is the most
racist while the post Christian Pacific Northwest have their sisters and
daughters riding the black whip?”

I’m fairly certain that lying is against the Christian religion. There is far more black/white miscegenation in the South than there is in the Pacific Northwest.

craicher
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craicher

Only grossly obese, the mentally ill and drug addicts miscegenate in the South. But that was not the point. The man on the street, your average Southerner, is what the MultiCult calls a racist. That is, he (or she) believes in the inequality of the races and in segregation. That is the vast majority of Southerners (not Yankee transplants). Now I am fairly certain that that is not the case in the Pacific North West. Your normal daughter or sister is much more likely to be blacked in the post-Christian areas such as Scandinavia though even there where I Iived… Read more »

Hipster Racist
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It appears your ignorance of the PNW rivals your ignorances of the South.

craicher
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craicher

Projecting? I never implied any such a thing. Said it was more likely in the PNW. In fact I said the opposite that their biological natural instinct is repulsion to negroids but their atheist secular Puritan leftist culture tells them their nature is racist and therefore some will fuck blacks and browns because of that.

Wrong again Hipster Retard

Hipster Racist
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You just made up some bullshit to make a point, but you had none. There is virtually no black/white miscegenation in the PNW – I mean, giving the idea a moment’s thought should tell you why – and far more of it in the South – again, for very obvious reasons.

I mean literally we were discussing Christianity and you had to chime in to discuss white women having sex with black men – that is what you were thinking about, no one else. It’s your fetish, apparently. That’s called the “cuck fetish” and most of us disapprove.

craicher
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craicher

Wrong again. The topic came up if the more Christian parts of the White world were more protected against the MultiCult, race mixing being one of its doctrines, or the atheist parts of the White world such as the PNW or Scandinavia where paganism finds fertile ground. I can tell you from personal experience that in athiestic places like Sweden and England you will see WAY more mixed races couples and children and whites with adopted muds than you will in Christian places like Poland or Alabama. On the PNW I was going on what I here. But still how… Read more »

Hipster Racist
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“the post Christian Pacific Northwest have their sisters and daughters riding the black whip?”

You even used a colorful fetish term for a black penis – “the black whip.” You got negro penis on your brain – don’t project that on the white women in the Pacific North West it is YOU, craicher, thinking about “the black whip” – not White women.

craicher
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craicher

Nice try when you know you are wrong. Now back to kindergarten with you.

Hipster Racist
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Everyone can tell you are a teenager because you project your own insecurities with every attempt at insult.

craicher
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craicher

You concede that I was right by not making an argument against it but go into something completely off topic.

Wrong again. You just can’t get anything right.

Try staying on topic. And I am not here to duel with you but hopefully show that you and your pagan larpers are very destructive to our cause, products of the left, and tools of our enemies. Bye bye.

Hipster Racist
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I conceded nothing because you were unable to make a point, thus you devolved into childish name calling. I’m not a pagan, I’m a Christian. You are simply arguing with strawmen you make up in your head – apparently competing for space with all that “black whip” on your brain as well.

When you grow up, get married and have children you won’t have this need to prove yourself anymore. Try some patience.

craicher
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craicher

After all this you claim to be a Christian. At least now we know all you are is a troll. Dont feed the troll. Bye for good this time.

Hipster Racist
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You keeping saying “goodbye” yet you keep piping up to tell us about “black whip” and your odd “pagan” strawmen. Then, humiliated by your betters, you spout off like a pre-teen trying to insult adults.

You should spend less time trying to sit at the adult table and more time in church, if you even are a Christian, which doesn’t really seem likely.

Zorost
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Zorost

So you concede his other point, that Christian Eastern Europe is far more resilient than atheist Western Europe.

Hipster Racist
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I don’t see why anyone should. Eastern Europe is essentially a backwater economically, which is why they don’t have the mass immigration that Western Europe has. It has little to do with Christianity. You may as well pine for the days of Communism, because Eastern Europe was under communism therefore why not credit that particular ideology?

You should get down on your knees and thank the two or three pagan LARPers here, because without them you’d have no one to counter-signal against. I’m a Christian myself.

craicher
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craicher

Shows a true ignorance of Eastern Europe. They don’t like blacks and muslims and gypsies and homos and feminists. That is a fact. Go there and if you look like your name implies you will probably get some agression coming your way. Its not a place for hipsters.

Hipster Racist
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They don’t even have blacks in Eastern Europe! Are you even for real?

craicher
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craicher

I’m only replying for the benefit of those who may not have traveled. But the Black Plague is everywhere. There is no white country on Earth from Iceland to Ukraine where there are absolutely no blacks. Otherwise I do not respond to trolls like you.

Mark Citadel
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please explain Viktor Orban’s statements then? Pretty much all of them are some variation of “I will preserve nationalist Christian Hungary against parasites”

Zorost
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Zorost

I think you are getting correlation and causality mixed up.

Eastern Europe is a destination for migrants, but they get kicked out/ stopped at the border/ ushered through to Western nations. Communism is somewhat responsible, as it meant that religion was under less of an attack than it was in the West (ironically, considering religious freedom in west and explicit persecution in east), and there was a lot less pozzed media indoctrination.

The importance of this is that Christianity is not synonymous with being anti-white. It can be either, depending on who is defining it.

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

I guess leftwing Jews should’ve thought of that all those years they were warring against Christianity.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Left-wing Jews created Christianity.

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

That is incorrect. Christianity was created by your Creator, and should you persist in shaking your fist at his existence, you will reap what you have sown.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Cool sermon, bro. I thought the alt-right was full of free-thinkers. Not Evangelical Christians invoking wrath on other Whites.

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

That was not a sermon, bro, and the wrath coming your way is of your own doing, not mine.

Moreover, the “I’m a free thinker because I refuse to acknowledge my Creator” crap is the same Secular Humanist Atheism, Jacobin egalitarianism, Enlightenment veneration of the corrupt human mind, Gramscian March Through the Institutions, Frankfurt School Cultural Marxism, Alinskyian lucifer worship godlessness that has demolished all of the pillars of Western Civilization, and now we are hanging on by our fingernails.

You may think you’re against the enemy, but you’re neck-deep in his feces.

Congratulations!

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Cool meta-narrative, bro. You mention eight different intellectual strains that are barely related then accuse me of being neck-deep in Satan’s feces. You’re unhinged. Congratulations.

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

You demonstrate your weaknesses in several ways. First, the “Cool story, bro” schtick is a shopworn cliche at this point, and was never effective even years ago when it was new. As for those intellectual strains being supposedly unrelated, you are, of course, confused. Said confusion is caused by your failure to acknowledge your Creator, which is the single-most commonly held conceit of those supposedly barely related brain droppings of the reprobate mind. As for me being “unhinged,” your lame attempt at gas-lighting is no more effective or original than the “Cool story, bro” crap, and is, truth be told,… Read more »

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

“Acknowledge your creator”, “wrath”, etc. Are you a fucking automaton? As far as you being “unhinged”, you wrote: “Secular Humanist Atheism Jacobin egalitarianism Enlightenment veneration of the corrupt human mind Gramcian March Through the Institutions, Frankfurt School Cultural Marxis, Alinskyian lucifer worship godlessnes”. Is there a point in there or are you emulating Allen Ginsberg?

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

I know what I wrote, but quoting it does not help your attempt at gas-lighting.

“Cool story, bro,” are you an automaton? Gotcha!

Son, never lock horns with someone who has got at least 20 IQ points north of yours, and whose level of education makes you look like the average ghetto dropout by comparison.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

You know neither my IQ nor my level of education. You can barely even structure a paragraph, as noted above. Since you failed to convince me of anything in you blather about “The Creator”, you predictably resorted to ad hominem attacks, like every other passive-aggressive, insecure Christard I’ve had had the displeasure of interacting with.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Is “”Secular Humanist Atheism Jacobin egalitarianism Enlightenment veneration of the corrupt human mind Gramcian March Through the Institutions, Frankfurt School Cultural Marxis, Alinskyian lucifer worship godlessnes” indicative of your IQ and level of education?

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Was that when the earth was created, er, 5,000 years ago?

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

No. It was prophesied in the Garden of Eden, and fulfilled nearly 2000 years ago. Anymore questions, hotshot?

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Sure. Tell us exactly how your imaginary creator (lc intentional) created Christianity and tell us about the prophesy. Actual citations would be nice.

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

Read the third chapter of Genesis if you want some context. The specific prophecy can be located at Genesis 3:15. The Triune Creator sent the second person of the Holy Trinity, the eternal Word of God, who created the natural world, to earth more than 2000 years ago, clothed in human form, 100% Spirit of God, and 100% fallen flesh of man. This man, Jesus, lived without sin. Guiltless. Blameless. He taught and blessed and healed for a few years in his thirties, and then at the appointed time He gave His life as a complete atonement for the sins… Read more »

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Well, let me see if we can get to the nub of this with a series of simple questions that require nothing more than short answers: Do you believe in evolution? Do you believe the Earth was formed about 5,000 years ago? Do you believe that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs? Do you believe Jews are a chosen people? Do you believe that all humans are essentially the same and therefore we should all blend together so that there are no separate races?

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

Just a note first: This isn’t the Inquisition, but I’ll gladly participate in your interrogation out of charity. That said, I’ll choose the length of my answers for myself, rather than having their length dictated to me by my interrogator. Question 1: Darwinian, trans-species, macro-evolution? Of course not. And anyone of an intellectually honest nature has no reason to, as it is full of so many gaping holes it is difficult to know where to begin. I believe in micro-adapation, which was built into the Creation by the Creator, for the survival of same. Question 2: No, and I’m not… Read more »

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Answer 1: You throw in the name Darwin–which I did not use– as though Darwin is synonymous with evolution–it isn’t. Evolution is a bigger concept than Darwinism. Answer 2: Many fundamentalist Christians believe this, Answer 3: Same as my answer 2. Answer 4: So, you don’t believe that Jews are the chosen people? Do you have an actual citation from the Bible, and not just your opinion, to back up your belief. Answer 5: Let me see if I can correctly restate your admission for the sake of clarity: You believe that the races of man are different and that… Read more »

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Gleimhart Mantooso

Answer 1: It doesn’t matter that you didn’t use the name Darwin, nor did I say anything about him being synonymous with Evolution. My purpose in mentioning him was for clarification. I know that the Evolutionists have had to distance themselves from Darwin because some of his lesser known assertions are embarrassing. Nevertheless, Darwin is very closely related to any discussion of the subject — and it’s silly to deny it. Darwin may be inconvenient to the crusading Evolutionist, but that’s not my problem. Answer 2: All sorts of people believe all sorts of things, but we are each responsible… Read more »

Mark Citadel
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Do Americans think that any Christians outside their own retarded Evangelicals believe that figure? It was even calculated in a retarded way.

Ryan Andrews
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Ryan Andrews

I actually enjoyed Beinart’s piece, for the most part, even if it was a lot of rehashing stuff I already knew. Ethnonationalism has its own separate merits, but it is also a logical substitute for religion, even if its role does not overlap perfectly with religion’s. And this is not a new thing; the XIX century, when Europeans adopted a more secular worldview, was the great age of nationalism. The two most basic forms of identity are racial/ethnic identity and religious identity. When the two intersect and form an ethno-religion, which is basically what Judaism is, the religion of Beinart’s… Read more »

Hipster Racist
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It’s ironic all these Anglo-Saxon Americans saying they believe in “tradition” then disparaging our own Anglo traditions and pretending to embrace foreign traditions. I’m not going to give up my own tradition – Anglo-Saxon/WASP American liberalism – in order to LARP as some sort of mid century German or, god forbid, some sort of neo-pagan frog worshipper. Anyone serious about tradition and identity would embrace ourselves and our actual authentic traditions – not despite, but BECAUSE they are being co-opted by anti-whites. As for America – all of the Founding Fathers were White Nationalists. All of them were Christian to… Read more »

Ryan Andrews
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Ryan Andrews

There’s definitely a lot ‘throwing the baby out with the bath water’ going on around here. I’m not doctrinaire about upholding every little Anglo tradition, but I do think we on the Alt Right should have a much healthier attitude towards our past. The Russians don’t believe in communism anymore, but that doesn’t mean they’re ashamed of the Soviet Union. They just look at like, ‘we tried something big because we thought it was the right thing to do, but we’ve changed our minds.’ Now we’re doing something else. But we’re still us.’ A healthy race is proud of great… Read more »

craicher
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craicher

The left has been subverting Christianity since the 60’s. The Jews subverting it since he Scodfield Bible. Our job is yo recapture it not destroy it. Just as we should recapture academia and government. Fact is for you .00001% of the population on here who are pagans is that most Whites are Christians. Get over yourselves. The great Davis Duke who has fought for decades for us is a Christian. Then there is the issue of God. You pagans (who are not Hindus) deny God and instead whorship idol ancestors. You deny sin because you want to “do as thou… Read more »

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

And, let me guess, LADY GAGA IS IN THE ILLUMINATI?

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

Probably, yeah. She’s clearly a gaslighting operation. Her costumes early on were obviously meant to say, “let’s see how absurd we can get and still have these rubes believe that I’m a serious ‘artist'”. She was so in-your-face, over-the-top absurd, stupid, tasteless, talentless… And the public ate it right up. Lady Gaga is a “shit test” by the culture-subverters to see how far gone our people’s minds are.

Mark Citadel
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> subverting Christianity since the 60s

Yeah… if you mean the 1760s, because honestly it goes back that far.

craicher
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craicher

Depends on when are where. Or more like all the way back to the Jews financing Cromwell and the Puritans and turning them away from Tradition towards merchantilism, capitalism and ultimately materialism.

TransPride
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TransPride

There is no such thing as god or as sin. Pagans are honoring and practicing traditions that have been practiced since long before christianity tried and controlled everyone

craicher
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craicher

So you can dress as a woman and bugger young boys without guilt or shame?

TransPride
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TransPride

Satanists deny son because there is no such thing. Christianity is a fairy tale. It is fine for learning morals like don’t steal and don’t be an adulterer but those are obvious things. you can have morals meaning and happiness with out the Bible if you think you can’t your biased and blind to the truth. Now about your comment on. shock therapy I really hope you’re joking about torturing someone just because they feel differently about religion than you do.

Hipster Racist
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Where do these Jews get off talking about Christianity and White people, even though they don’t identify as either? Imagine if White Christians in the mainstream media were constantly critically discussing Jews in both religious and ethnic terms. The kvetching from the likes of Abe Foxman could be heard straight from Astoria to Jersey City. The reason why these Jews get away with this is because White men don’t take offense enough. We should be writing letters to the editors, making phone calls, and threatening to boycott their advertisers. We should be as obnoxious as possible demanding that these hateful… Read more »

Alfa158
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Alfa158

Some people are perpetual malcontents; first these people do everything in their power to cripple and destroy Christianity, then they whine when it has been neutered because they now see what happens when the shackles come off.

West coast and burnt toast
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West coast and burnt toast

Me after reading the comments on an alt-right article about religion:comment image

VictoryOrValhalla
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VictoryOrValhalla

That was freaking beautiful, my life is now complete.
Religion is nice and all guys but we need all available White men for the inevitable civil war none of us want to think about. Anti-Whites love White infighting. Anti-Whites greatly fear unified White people who know wtf is going on. This is fact, not a debate.

katebushfan66
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katebushfan66

bam. agreed. not gonna fight em… gonna win em over… comment image

Zorost
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Zorost

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JosephtheGreat
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JosephtheGreat

Religion causes a lot of in-fighting among the altright. But I think most of us can agree that the altright is NOT a religious movement. This does not mean that it is anti-christian or pro atheist, it simply means that religion is irrelevant to what we wish to accomplish. We want to create a white ethnostate and anyone, whether Christian or Atheist or Pagan, who wants to help us achieve this goal is our friend, not an enemy; regardless of your personal religious beliefs.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

I totally agree but if Jesus shows up at the ethno-state, I’ll crucify him myself.

Christian Talour
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I don’t fully understand this level of hostility against Christianity. Don’t you know that your ancestors were all Christians?

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Only for the last two Millennia. Whites are much older than that, my friend.

Christian Talour
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Why do you think its so unacceptable? Is there a particular reason? Or is it just what you see in post-60s Christianity?

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

See above reply.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

My ancestors were all Whites.

Christianity is not the connection here. More importantly, Christianity will not honor my ancestors while simultaneously pushing miscegenation, Negro adoption, and helping “Christians” over helping the White race.

Christian Talour
Guest

Its just tragic to me how successful these liberal Christians have become in correlating Christianity with the things you listed: miscegenation, negro adoption, etc.

I went to a church with an adoption agency that specifically seemed to link black children to white families. I admit that it’s shameful.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Liberal Christian, conservative Christian, it doesn’t matter. There isn’t a single Church on earth that stands up for the White race. The Alt Right will defend the White race no matter what. The Alt Right will work in the interests of Whites no matter what.

Christian Talour
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I think there are a lot of Christians, including myself, who see truth in historic Christianity in the same way we see truth in things like racial reality, but the institutions and modern churches are so far gone. They’re evil at this point.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Most Christians are not White. It doesn’t matter what you see. Just like the Libcuck who put Obama in charge, you put non-Whites in charge of your church. There are twice as many Christians as there are White people. That makes about 2/3 of Christianity is non-White. Your religion is completely cucked. You’ve breed a billion Negroes and Mestizos to replace you.

craicher
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craicher

Most pagans are not either. Most live in Blackfrica.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Keep counter-signaling.

craicher
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craicher

How am I counter signaling. This is not pagansareus.com This website is about our cause not your pagan cause. You are trying to capture something that is not yours to capture. Now back to larpingagans.com with you.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

How are you counter-signalling? Because for the millionth time:

I’M NOT A PAGAN YOU RETARDED FAGGOT!

craicher
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craicher

You just like to attack the culture, history and heritage of our people? And you don’t even have a good reason? It would be better then if you were a pagan at least then you would have some rationale for your hatred and ignorance. You are a puppet of the left, i.e, the jews and the worst is you are not intelligent enough to even know it. Or you are very young, in which case you may be forgiven, though you should not be writing on here without adult supervision. In any case you seem to be very mentally unstable.… Read more »

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You’re an autistic cuckold who is a thousand years behind. You’re useless to White people.

craicher
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craicher

Now how do you know so much about me? To be a cuckold I would have to be married. Do you know my marital status. And that is left wing language being “”behind”” the times not being progressive. I think I am starting to smell bagels.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You really are useless to White people. Seriously, if I was a Jew I’d want more Cucktians like you because you faggots worship Jews.

craicher
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craicher

Christians are “”faggots who worship jews”. Wow. And you really believe you are not here to destroy our people but save them? You do realize you are just playing into the hands of the enemy. And I believe you are the enemy.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Oh noes! The loser who lost his church believes “you are the enemy”! Oh noes! Yeah idiot, I’m the reason why the church is anti-White. You’re such a moron.

craicher
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craicher

This is getting ridiculous. Bye.

craicher
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craicher

Because it is not the church’s domain, the sacred function in society, to stand up for the White race. It is our job, the profane, to do that and then bend the Church to our will. Get it?

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You’re literally so stupid you believe “most pagans live in Africa.” You’re that mentally retarded. It’s impossible for you to understand that culture is a racial construct. You’re a deracinated loser.

craicher
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craicher

How would you presume to know anything about my race. Why would I bother if I were the above. Our cause needs adults not larpers. Yes Africa is the dark continent full of pagans.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Here we go again… “Those aren’t the REAL Christians!” Pray, tell me, where are these mythical, real Christians the Christians love to invoke?

Christian Talour
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In history. I agree with you, they’re very rare nowadays.

Zorost
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Zorost

They are the Christians telling you who the REAL Christians aren’t.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Well, I’ve just been converted and I decided that you aren’t a REAL Christian because you said something I didn’t like.

craicher
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craicher

Russia, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Mississippi, Louisiana (Dr. David Duke), Greece, Italy, do I need to go on? Are you that misinformed or does you hatred just blind you?

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Cool, let me know when you form an alliance between Russia, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Mississippi, Louisiana (Dr. David Duke), Greece and Italy to save Western Civilization. Will you have a position as a special envoy?

Joe Putnam
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Hello Christian Talour, I think that this is the most comments I have seen on a single article at atlright before. I just revised your site, as it had been awhile. One thing that much of the Alt-Right misses is that Christianity is not the problem. White were racially conscious 200 years ago, and so were Christian churches. The fact that many present day whites have lost their racial consciousness most certainly does not mean whites are inherently racially unconscious -just as it does not mean that Christianity is inherently flawed on the race issue. I am an IFB boy… Read more »

Zorost
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Zorost

Christianity is whatever Christians define it as. Stop pretending like there is some penultimate definition of Christianity that has existed since the beginning of time and will always exist, unchanging.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Sounds like it’s a bunch of bullshit.

craicher
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craicher

If you will notice it is the same few pagans (how many exist in real life 100? 1000?) who comment on this topic. I can answer you their paganism is rooted in rebellion against God and hatred of Christianity no matter how they couch it. The original true pagans did not found their religion on hatred or rebellion; they were simply the remnants of a fallen civilization who no longer knew of god. Once they knew of God again they (mostly anyway) rejected their blood thirsty gods for the true God. That is something the haters on here will never… Read more »

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

I think he’s bringing a sword next time around, if I’m not mistaken.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Don’t count on it.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

The current strains of religion or irreligion are not good for Whites. The Alt Right is concerned with White people, White interests, and a future for White children. Those that fight against us are more concerned with their institutions rather than actual people, but only when those actual people are White. When the people are non-White then, all of a sudden, they’re concerned with actual people. That’s the problem.

Zorost
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Zorost

Good points. At worst, we form multiple ethnostates with different religions. Problem solved.

These people trying to refight the Wars of Religion before we even have a political party are either retarded or agents of the enemy.

Christian Talour
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For the last 4 years I’ve been trying to “uncuck” Christian thought: http://www.christianityandrace.org/p/blog-page_18.html but I don’t think it’s possible right now.

These cucked older generations (and their younger puppets) will have to die off, and mainstream Christianity must implode before anything new can take its place.

I was witch hunted out of my church for expressing some alt-right opinions. “Christianity” is pretty far gone. The whole thought construction (theology) of modern churches is fortified against us.

Will Windsor
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Will Windsor

My thoughts as well. We’re going to have let Christianity implode on its own before it is resurrected or another take its place that serves our interest.

katebushfan66
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katebushfan66

change your name.. check out of town … never look back…

Zorost
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Zorost

Its the same for atheist old people and their atheist younger puppets. Some people just can’t be de-programmed. They are lost. We need to bring together the ones that can be saved. converting them to WNism whether its through Christianity or not.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

Christianity is DEAD in the West. There will never be another European pope. Francis will be the last White pope. The next Pope will come from somewhere like the Philippines. Protestant churches are also only growing in regions such as Africa. Christianity is now a religion of the Global South and thus Christian leaders (NOT European Christians!) are our enemies. Beinart is right and often Jews due to the legalistic nature of their religion can cut to the heart of the matter in analyzing an issue. Identity has replaced religious culture wars in the West. Most in the Alt Right… Read more »

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Yes, the cognitive dissonance on the part of the self-professed “Christians” on this forum is off the charts. a.) Christianity has always been a part of White Identity and history. b.) We are currently facing extinction. c.) Christianity had nothing whatsoever to do with our current situation as a defeated race of peoples.

Zorost
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Zorost

Quote someone who has said a) or c).

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

I was paraphrasing. Quote them yourself. They abound on this forum.

joe-boston
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joe-boston

Amen.
The first post here that makes any sense!!!!!!!!
Christianity has run its course; at least for Whites.
From the perspective of a White Nationalist I do not lament this. Our civilization can survive without Christianity. After all, we did have a civilization before Christianity. (please don’t respond with “Greece, Rome and the other Ancient European civilizations were not Western).
In fact, not only can Western man survive without Christianity, the sooner it is discarded, the sooner we can get our civilization back on track.

Martin
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Martin

I think you underestimate how much society needs a religion. The majority of people, in all nations throughout time have held some kind of religion. If a table needs 4 legs to stand, you are sawing off one of the legs – ok, what are you going to replace that with?

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

They want to replace it with nothing. They have nothing to bring to the table.

craicher
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craicher

I’m just waiting for one of these pagans to start a full blown cult in the vein of Scientology. At least they try to believe in something quasi historical at the moment. But let’s not forget besides these Asatro (Asatru in Sweden and meaning Asa=Gods Tro=Belief which is not what ANY ONE of their ancestors ever called themselves as it was MADE THE FUCK UP by this McNallen clown in the 1970’s) there are wiccans, Druids, Satanists, Freemasons, Kabbalists, and on and on and on. Now most of these pagans could not give a good god damn about the survival… Read more »

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Silly comment as usual. EVERY religion, including Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and on and on with no exceptions, was made up by someone. Some were simply made up earlier than some others, and the ones made up earlier, are usually the ones (but not exclusively) most filled with unscientific explanations and gap fillers to explain the world around them with the best knowledge they had at the time as to how existence works. Indeed, your denigrating comment that a religion that you don’t like is made up is so foolish that I put it right up there with the comments made… Read more »

craicher
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craicher

Exactly, And look what happened in atheist Soviet Union. People always seek meaning and sorry folks, White Nationalism, does not give man meaning. Learn to separate the spiritual from the profane.

UncleSham
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UncleSham

Praise Kek.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Martin, no we don’t “underestimate how much society needs a religion.” So for once in your life quit being a fucking retard. Can we start there?

craicher
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craicher

Why are you so angry? Pray tell, what is your purpose here besides attacking White heritage and culture?

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Why are you so stupid? Pray tell, what is your purpose here besides counter-signaling and undermining the racial interests of Whites?

craicher
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craicher

On this particular comment section it is to show that paganism is not an answer to our woes but a product of the degenerate left and that those who attack Christianity (yourself) are destructive to our cause. It is quite simple. Thank you.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

The problem is you’re a moron who is a thousand years behind. You losers can’t even convince your own church to work in the interests of Whites but you want Whites to join up? For what? Why should Whites join you losers? You had your chance and you cucked.

craicher
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craicher

Churches are there for the soul not profane matters. That really is not difficult to understand. Again more left wing jew “”progress”” language. Fact is you and your have nothing to replace Christianity.

Anger is not the solution to your problems.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

“Churches are there for the soul not profane matters.”

Ah the magical “soul”! Let’s all flood our countries with Negros, Arabs, Asians, and Indios! They too have a magical “soul” that needs savin’! The church isn’t worried whether or not you’re White. There are magical “souls” that need saving.

craicher
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craicher

Your words not mine and let me repeat not the belief of most Christians but what you project onto them.

Sacred and profane. It’s a simple basic concept. Try to think about it a little bit while you expect churches to lead the fight for the preservation of European people.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

TL;DR

Your hocus pocus is worthless. You’re a loser. You’re like a Marxist after the Jews left. You have nothing but empty promises of salvation

craicher
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craicher

So you imply that movements need Jews or they will become “empty”?

I certainly have not promised anyone salvation and I am not a missionary. I do respect the ways of my people and our civilization and heritage though. You should try it. Maybe the anger will subside and you can do some positive things for your people instead of harping on negative perceived (in your head) aspects of our Christian religion.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

The problem is you’re a golem, a hollow Jewish creation. You belong to a Jewish institution and a Jewish program. Christianity, like Marxism, is a Jewish creation that promises salvation but just gets dopey White people like you to murder other Whites and destroy their nations.

craicher
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craicher

Funny you say golem as Toilken was a Christian. Yea those terrible Christians nations like ALL White nations. You are either very sick or a troll or both.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

I said “golem” not “gollum” you fucking retard.

Besides, it’s spelled Tolkien.

Mark Citadel
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lol, good luck with that.

> decline of religion
> rise of liberalism
> end of whiteness

“hmmm, everything will turn out okay in the end”

TransPride
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TransPride

The decline of religion will be the high point in society

From Ohio
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From Ohio

Not dead, but on life support.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

Christianity is in terminal decline in the West.

craicher
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craicher

Because the left stabbed it in the back. Don’t be a puppet. Btw all those Trump supporters chanting build that wall, most all of them are Christians.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

I don’t oppose White Christians, but when older White Christians die, their form of European Christianity will die with them.

craicher
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craicher

In the USA? Or do you mean France, Poland, Ireland, Russia? Christianity is on the march in, for example, France where Le Pen’s way morr radical daughter is a Traditional Catholic. Even Raispael who wrotr Camp of the Saints which greatlu critisized Christianity was a Trad Catholic.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

Christianity is dying everywhere in the West. Church attendance is nil in France.

craicher
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craicher

So those 50,000 who marched in Paris against abortion were pagans? Yes France has lost its way for a while but that is changing. Marion Marechel Le Pen for example. The old hippies are on their way out. Good riddance.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You keep saying “pagan.” You’re a thousand years behind the times. You’re utterly worthless to White people.

craicher
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craicher

That is what they call themselves. Read up. Or maybe learn to read first.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Africans call themselves “pagan”. No they don’t. You’re a liar and a phony.

craicher
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craicher

Unless you are hallucinating (are you on medication? real question) I did not mention Africans. I wrote of a march in France referring to the European pagan larpers. But pagans yes, can be of any race or nationality.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Since you’re a thousand years behind the times you can’t seem to understand that anyone can be French now. Mass import non-Whites and call them French. Christianity has similar requirements. Have some autistic White cuck wave his hands and recite some magic words and voila! You’re one of us!

craicher
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craicher

Again left wing Jew language.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You really are stupid. You’re so fucking retarded you can’t even understand I’m speaking of anachronisms, like calling someone “pagan.” I’m not talking about “progress” dummy.

craicher
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craicher

Nice try but you cannot worm your way out of it.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You’re a fucking idiot.

craicher
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craicher

More insults and anger.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

I’m not angry.

You’re just stupid.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

No, you stabbed White people in the back.

craicher
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craicher

I stabbed people in the back? I wasn’t aware that we are acquainted. You have a seething hatred for your own people and need to go where that is in fashion and that is not on the right.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

White Christians like you bring in the so-called “refugees” from Somalia
and destroy racially and ethnically homogeneous White communities. You put the White race last. You virulently hate White people, which is why you push miscegenation, open borders, foreign aid, diversity, and missions to non-White countries. Those are your values. That’s your religion. That’s what you believe.

craicher
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craicher

I have not brought in any Somalians nor do I support it. So how can you say “White Christians” like me? Are you in an institution? Real question.

Most of those who voted Trump are Christians. Most Whites in South Africa are Christians. Most Hungarians are Christians. Yet they (with some exceptions) are not in favor of all the things that you accuse ALL Christians of. I am starting to wonder if you are not a Jew.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

The Alt Right grew without you. It didn’t need the church. Now you losers want in because we’re actually gaining momentum. You’re just like that Jew who chimed in and said, “I’m Alt Right.” He isn’t and neither are you.

WHITE people voted Trump (along with non-Whites).

You have no church. Win your church back first and then talk. Otherwise, you’re just another fucking loser.

craicher
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craicher

You mean good Christian people like David Duke or Pat Buchanon who were doing this when you were still on your mama’s tit?

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Mama’s tit? Oh it’s more insults from the man without a church trying to convince us he can save magical “souls.”

craicher
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craicher

No you are claiming to have founded a movement which you clearly did not. And claiming that it specifically grew up in non Christian milleau which it clearly did not. I mean you have no ground to stand on. Only anger, insults and hatred of European culture, tradition and heritage. Just like a pesky little Middle Eastern minority that we are all familiar with who have been on this yes, since you were on your mamma’s tit, assuming you still are not.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

“No you are claiming to have founded a movement which you clearly did not.”

Nope. You’re just a fucking retard who always gets it wrong.

craicher
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craicher

Honestly if this site wants to do good for our people and advance our cause people like you should be banned from commenting here. You are destructive to our cause and people and belong on the left where you (whether you are aware or not) get your inspiration from.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

So now you want to ban White people from a White site because they’re not pro-Jewish and pro-Israel?

craicher
Guest
craicher

I said that?

Clearly a troll. Why is this clown not banned?

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Oy vey! Ban the pro-Whites! They’re too extreme! We need Christ just like the good author from the Atlantic said. He’s one of God’s Chosen so you know you can trust him.

craicher
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craicher

For the record this vile creature, a jew, has gone back and edited his comment. The original comment was “Oh vey goyim!” Who would call me a goyim but a Jew?

Little Thomas jew boy let slip that he is a jew troll. Seriously if there is a moderator here you really need to look at what this Thomas creature is doing on here. He is visiously and without cause attacking anyone on here who doesn’t march to his drum.

He is doing harm to your website and this movement.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Oy vey goyim!
Rabbi Herschel Lieberman-Bergblattstein warned us Chosen about the wisdom and intelligence of the White Christian. The goyim knows! Shut it down!

craicher
Guest
craicher

Your craziness just keeps getting crazier and crazier. Well at least everyone knows now that you are a Jew.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Looks like the Cucktians are out in full force. If you read their comments you’ll notice a pattern that is identical to that of Liberals or Conservatives: * Belong to a moral group * Place moral group solidarity over racial solidarity * Believe in moral and intellectual superiority over White racial Identitarians * Attack their White racial ingroup rather than non-White outgroups * Demean Whites The pathological need to infight is at the heart of maladaptive individualism. The Cucktian will endlessly fight against Whites because they’re the wrong moral ingroup. This is why Hypatia was murdered by Jews and their… Read more »

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Yes if things went full “Race War”, the Christians would be of little help to us. They’d put their Jew God before anything else. It is a very effective virus of the mind, that “Christianity”.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

Its almost like someone developed a form “Positive Christianity” to counteract the Cucking and Race Traitors.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

“The meek shall inherit nothing.” – Frank Zappa

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

It’s not even up for debate. Christians are putting Whites last for their autistic moral ingroup and there is no organized resistance. Even Jews realize that Whites will no have an organized resistance if they’re Christian.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

The only people attacking whites is you. It’s always anti-Christian whites who are the most hostile and autistically disagreeable. I’m just defending my faith. If it were up to me we wouldn’t be wasting time debating one another. Also, the majority of whites are Christian and this will never change. You will never separate whites from Christianity. To attack Christianity now is to attack the vast majority of whites.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Well, the divided loyalty between being a Christian and being a White is easily demonstrated by asking White Christians this ethical question: “If you can save ten Black Christians from your Church or one White Pagan, but not both, who would you save?”

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Very well said.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Just ask White Christian to recite the 14 words and watch them cry racism.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

“To attack Christianity now is to attack the vast majority of whites.”

Wrong. To attack Christianity is to attack a deracinated Cult that takes from Whites to enrich and breed non-Whites. The vast majority of Christians are not White. I’m not separating Whites from Christianity. Christianity is cucked and it’s causing White Flight. Your autism has chased out Whites.

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

“* Place moral group solidarity over racial solidarity”

I’ll combine moral group solidarity with racial solidarity, thanks. And yes, me and my morally superior Christian Whites will defend you against the colored hordes, if need be.

“* Attack their White racial ingroup rather than non-White outgroups”

That’s called projection there, Tommy Boy.

“* Demean Whites” —-> “Cucktians”

Your divide and conquer is SOOO aggro, He-Man.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Christianity isn’t White. There’s nothing to attack. It’s just the truth. You can see it anywhere. You White Christians are the wallet for your religion. Your labor enriches and breeds non-Whites.

I want you to go to church and seek to help Whites, while opposing helping non-Whites. Go to church and stop aid to Haiti, Africa, and Mestizo countries. Go stop missions to non-Whites. Go ahead and let’s see how far you get.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

But that’s not the REAL Christianity! There, I saved you the labor of typing, Wanderer.

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

Many real Christians don’t belong to a brick and mortar church, for the very reasons you mentioned.

As for Christianity “not being White”…
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Ohhh, look how jewy it all is!!

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

I see lots of White creativity. Since you’re an indoctrinated Useful Idiot that serves Jews, you only see through the lens of your Cult rather than the continuity of White creativity.

Archimedes
Leonardo Da Vinci
Nikola Tesla
Elon Musk

All from the same core gene pool. They share a surprising number of traits that has nothing to do with ideology. DNA is destiny.

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

Yeah, I “serve jews” by constantly calling out their BS, and warning people that we must separate from them.

You reek of divide and conquer/provocateur/government shill.

Good day, sir.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Yeah, you serve Jews by constantly counter-signalling against Whites and endlessly denying that DNA is destiny.

Zorost
Guest
Zorost

Quote where someone has said DNA isn’t destiny. You anti-Christians have nothing but strawman arguments.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

You autistic White cuckolds have breed a church of non-Whites.

craicher
Guest
craicher

You really like to accuse people of being autistic and counter signaling. As though you (who are you now?) control the narrative and anyone who disagrees with you is counter signaling. Again you are divisive and maybe even a paid troll and should be BANNED.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Oy vey goyim! Shut it down!

craicher
Guest
craicher

Now you call me a goy? Guess I was right and you are a yid. Ban this clown.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

It’s obvious you just showed up last week LARPing as a White Advocate when you can’t even identify a common trope from TRS.

“Ban this clown”

Really? Ban anyone who disagrees with some loser that doesn’t even know the lingo? That is why you lost your church. That is why there isn’t a single pro-White church in America raking in d-nations.

Go try and get your church back from the Jews. Oh wait…

Hipster Racist
Guest

If it wasn’t Christianity, it would be something else. MacDonald describes North Western European psychology as “egalitarian individualism” that needs an “overarching moral system” in order to function as a group. Without that overarching moral system, we revert back to Randoid individualist libertardians. If all these Whites were raised Scientologist, or Muslim, or Hindu, or Juggalos, they would engage in the exact same form of signaling and altruistic punishment of moral dissenters. It’s our psychology and it isn’t going to change in the next dozen or hundred lifetimes – this is an evolutionary scale phenomenon. So better find a way… Read more »

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

I’m actually considering converting to Juggaloism. I’ve heard they have awesome sacraments.

Hipster Racist
Guest

“We smoke this reggie, and drink this Faygo, in remembrance of thee.”

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

That gave me a good chuckle.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Better than adopting Negros and missions to Mexico.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

“If it wasn’t Christianity, it would be something else. MacDonald
describes North Western European psychology as “egalitarian
individualism” that needs an “overarching moral system” in order to
function as a group.”

Agree.

“So better find a way to work with it because we have no choice.”

Wrong. Whites can be subverted but this time for their own good. I will not work with them on their terms. They must work on our terms. It’s either that or they’re dead anyway.

craicher
Guest
craicher

Actually those Whites that McDonald refers to, Scandinavians and North Germananics, need to be ruled over by an Aryan elite or their hunter gather instincts will destroy us all. Hilter being a Bavarian understood the nature of Nordics. Great people but too child minded when it comes to morality to rule themselves or others.

Hipster Racist
Guest

Convert a German to Islam and he’ll turn Islam into an ultra-inclusive friendly religion that gives women equal rights. Ideologies are completely elastic – genes are not. Whites are what we are. Just read the comments in this thread from the left end of the Alt Right IQ bell curve. These people are so hung up on ideologies – they are so incapable of independent thought – that literally all they can think to do is to embrace either some mystical “Christianity” of the past (the farther removed from Current Year America the more amenable to LARPing) or some sort… Read more »

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

TL;DR

You’re preaching to the choir.

Hipster Racist
Guest

TL;DR

Jesus and the Baby Hitler want you to be pro-white.

Zorost
Guest
Zorost

If you are saying your analysis of Christians doesn’t apply equally to most pagans, I disagree. Anti-Christian is as much an ideology as pro-Christian, and usually they are the ones to attack first.

Otherwise, pretty much agree, although I think religion has more value than simply a shock collar for low-IQ types.

Hipster Racist
Guest

It would apply equally to pagans if they actually existed, which they don’t, so it’s pretty much just a strawman.

Zorost
Guest
Zorost

Depends how you define them. I dated a self-proclaimed pagan for several years. Hippie shitlib, annoyed the hell out of me.

Hipster Racist
Guest

The “pagan WN” boogeyman basically don’t exist.

Real American Christians interested in real Christian tradition need to join the Episcopal church and start taking it back. Anything else is just LARPing – and arguing with atheists and “pagan” LARPers isn’t doing you any good.

But going to church and retaking an institution is hard work, while trolling atheists and “pagans” is more fun, I know.

craicher
Guest
craicher

WHo will you not work with? Who is we? Are you a psychopath? Real question.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Why are you an autistic cuckold?

Real question.

craicher
Guest
craicher

Again, do you know my marital status? Why the anger and the insults? Maybe go to church and get right with god.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Why are you an autistic cuckold?

Real question.

craicher
Guest
craicher

You’re repeating yourself. I happen to be a teacher and work sometimes with people with Asperger’s Syndrome. It is no shame to be born with an affliction. Have you been tested?

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Why are you an autistic cuckold?

Real question.

Zorost
Guest
Zorost

1. Everyone but sociopaths desire to belong to a moral group. Or are you saying WNism is immoral?
2. Quote a Christian here who put group over racial solidarity.
3. Anti-Christians have filled this thread claiming to be superior. This post itself is a great example
4. Most of the attacks are coming from anti-Christians. Again, this post itself is a great example.
5. Quote a Christian who has demeaned whites. Most of the demeaning of fellow whites has come from anti-Christians. Again, this post itself is a great example.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

1. Autistic White cuckolds like you put your African and Mexican “brothers” before your actual race.
2. Every single major Christian denomination opposes White solidarity.
3. We are superior in that we choose the race that built the modern world.
4. Most attacks are coming from the church: open borders, miscegenation, foreign aid, white guilt.
5. Every Christian demeans Whites with original sin.

You lost the church. It doesn’t belong to you anymore. You cucked and the church is a Turd World establishment. Go ahead and crybaby to me but it doesn’t matter. You’re a loser.

UncleSham
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UncleSham

Stop putting your fedora ahead of your race. Attacking pro-White Christians does nothing to further the 14 words.

Answer me this: Who is having more White babies? The Christians or the Atheists?
I think we all know the answer, and it isn’t the side you represent.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Christians are having more non-White babies.

craicher
Guest
craicher

Pray child, that is not a churches responsibility.

UncleSham
Guest
UncleSham

The Church has a structure that can be used for good or evil. Athiests can’t even organize, let alone organize to save the White race.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

No one here is defending atheists, dipshit.

UncleSham
Guest
UncleSham

You’re a faggot. The White race would be better off without you.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Go back to adopting Negroes and mixed churches!

You’re a fucking loser. You didn’t just lose, you bred an church of non-Whites and put them in charge of it.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

No one is fully white anymore and there is nothing with two people who love each other having a baby the race and sexuality doesn’t matter

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

You’re anus is not a vagina.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

So fucking what?! It’s still sex, its still consensual, it’s still pleasurable, so fucking what?! Straight couples have anal sex too. Sex is not a vagina and penis that is not the only way to have sex.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Muh consent! Muh butt-hole tingles!

You’re butt-fucking retarded.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

You’re the fucking idiot. Any sex is fine as long as it is consental, you know not rape to put it simply for you obviously damaged brain

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

you’re a butt-fucking idiot

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

Have fun suffering you brainless ape

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

I’m not the one suffering from a bleeding rectal prolapse.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

I’m not though.You clearly know nothing about simple human body function

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

I know that your anus is not a vagina.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

So what? Sex is not only vaginal there is more than one way to have sex dipshit

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

You really are butt-fucking retarded.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

Hahaha okay fucking retard

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Hahaha okay butt-fucking retard.

Zorost
Guest
Zorost

1, Not an answer to my question. And its incorrect.
2. Not an answer to my question. Depends on definition of “major”
3. Doesn’t make any sense. Are you saying anti-Christians chose Christians to build the modern world, or are you saying anti-Christians chose themselves to build the modern world? Either way, it makes no sense and is at odds with history.
4. I’m talking about in this thread.
5. Not an answer to my question. And its incorrect.

craicher
Guest
craicher

We are all wondering why you have this “pathological need to infight”?

GermanPleb
Guest

For the more academically minded among you (which I sadly don’t see much of). The Alt-Right really lacks people with critical/academic insight. Anyhow, enjoy your Islam those of you attacking Christianity (and yes, the Jews would much prefer us to be Muslim, atheism/secularism/paganism is/will be but a fad): I avoid talk of religion/Christianity with Whites but the fact is Islam is aggressive and much more appealing and has demography/fertility on its side. Keep that in mind cucked Euros worldwide. Jewish subversion has basically destroyed Christianity and ushered us into a secularism unparalleled in history – and ripe for Islamic picking.… Read more »

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

“The Alt-Right really lacks people with critical/academic insight.”

We’re all too familiar with your autistic virtue signaling. Go counter-signal your moral and intellectual superiority as you Christcuck like a typical SJW and adopt Negroes somewhere else.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Lol, gtfo bro. No one cares about your made-up religion.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

LOL! You’re gay! LOL!

That was easy. Now I’m a Cucktian.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Bantz failed to even respond to most of my counter-arguments. See below. I wouldn’t waste my time on such a lightweight.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

You don’t have any arguments, bro. You’re just running with the muh Odin thing that everyone does when they’re 16 or so and pretending it hasn’t been done before (it’s been done to death).

There’s no Tradition there. No form of European paganism has an unbroken transmission of metaphysics and esoterism. Some people may find it appealing, but it is not the future.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Once again, ad hominem attacks in the place of any substantive debate. If I take anything from participating in this forum it’s this: Christians have an irreversible case of Stockholm Syndrome and they utterly worthless in the fight ahead.

“Muh Jesus.”

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

You: Christianity is badz. Muh odin
Me: Muh odin is dead
You: HAHA try responding to me, checkm8

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

What?

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

None of your little quips were actual arguments. Nor were they anything I haven’t heard before a million times. Your posts are mediocre and irrelevant. I have no idea how the Nietzsche thing even fits into this discussion. You’re just blurting out little banalities, and it’s extremely tedious.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Jesus, you’re fucking retarded. YOU BROUGHT UP Nietzsche. See below. I have no idea how he fits into the discussion either. So why did you bring him up?

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Yes, I mentioned it to point out that the butthurt anti-Christian Nietzsche was furious with Wagner because, well, he was Christian. That was it.

Then you queefed out some frantic non sequitur about Nietzsche being a philosemite. Absolutely no value in this exchange; sheds no light on what was previously discussed. Tedium.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Why don’t you go to church and convince them to be pro-White?

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Have fun LARPing as the Noble Savage in your reconstructed religion whose origins you don’t really know anything about. I’m sure the metaphysics will be totally authentic.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

I don’t know what LARPing is. More internet speak. It’s your religion whose origins you know nothing about.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Whoa, dude, very deep. I DONT EVEN KNOW THE ORIGINS MAAAAN. Only pagan internet dude knows the troof.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Of your religion, you don’t. It was rooted in a group known as the Zadokites who were essentially Jewish terrorists. But all you know is that Christianity is crucial to the “White Man’s Identity” because, well, someone on AmRen once said so.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Or you could say it was a renegade Canaanite sky god that the Israelites seized on when they broke off from the Canaanite polytheists. Or you could go back and say it started when Canaanite polytheism broke off from greater Semitic polytheism. Or that this religion that came before that in Neolithic Middle-east is the real origin. ITS DEEP MAAAAN. RELIGIONS COME FROM OTHER RELIGIONS BEFORE THEM MAAAAN, HAHA CHECKMATE.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

kek, still running cowardly from my post. Tell us about your great made-up religion that will save the white race, sperg.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

GermanPleb has REAL critical / academic insight. He knows how to press “CTRL C”, switch tabs and then press “CTRL V”.

Zorost
Guest
Zorost

“The Alt-Right really lacks people with critical/academic insight.”

To be fair, academia lacks people with critical/academic insight, so its not like there is a lot to go around.

Aurelius
Guest
Aurelius

We’re about to starting to understand that Christianity is a very masculine and nationalistic religion.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Then why is every Christian that I know a PC, mealy-mouthed, brow-beaten cuck?

Wanderer
Guest
Wanderer

Because of modernism. If Christianity was the cause of the problem then why did it never manifest until the modern secular age?

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Same fallacy you engaged in earlier. “Those cucks aren’t the REAL Christians!” Anything you don’t like within your professed Religion you claim as being counterfeit. Yawn.

Wanderer
Guest
Wanderer

Uh, that’s not what that post was about. Let me repeat myself: if Christianity was the source of the problem, then these problems would have arisen 2000 years ago. Instead these problems have only arisen when Christianity is at its absolute weakest point in the west. Something is not adding up. Also, just because you call something a fallacy doesn’t necessarily make it so. If you can demonstrate that what these people are doing are contra to scripture, then they are not proper Christians. You can’t be a Christian if you just call yourself one and then promptly ignore all… Read more »

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

“You can’t be a Christian if you just call yourself one and then promptly ignore all of the teachings and act in a manner that’s opposing what the scriptures say.” Yes, here we totally agree. And that applies to every individual I have ever known who hides behind the weird moniker of “Christian”.

Evolver1
Guest
Evolver1

The Bible says to kill homosexuals. Is that what is still taught in your Christian Church?

craicher
Guest
craicher

I’d be all for it.

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

Clearly, the fallacy is to give greater weight to 1500-2000 years of Christian history, than to the fleeting aberration of the last 60 years, right?

I’m gonna say it… I’m gonna say it! You guys argue like… Like… LIKE…

Damn, I can’t remember.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

It’s a mistake to attribute to everything that occurred under Christianity’s reign as being the result of Christianity itself. I hear this all the time. “The culture that produced Mozart, the culture that produced Beethoven,” etc. The White Race produced Mozart. The White Race produced Beethoven. And they are the product of a genetic lineage that preceded the aberration (your word) of the last 2,000 years by tens of thousands of years. Possibly longer.

Aurelius
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Aurelius

I would say laziness, in terms of learning about their religion, and 100 years of indoctrination.

Scotcho Rouleau
Guest
Scotcho Rouleau

Interesting to note that white nationalists are essentially a mirror of Judaism reflecting right back at the Jews. I wonder if David Brooks, David Frum or Roger Cohen ever once thought of that throughout their careers.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Jews have a psychological need for supremacy, the need to control others and lord over others. That is their religion. That is why Jesus had to deliver the message to Gentiles. It’s a Jew telling the goy what to think and feel. Jews are starting to realize that White Christians are far easier to control than Identitarian Whites. The White Christian will cuck to save their Jewish masters. The Identiarian White doesn’t worship Jewish gods. The moral imperative of the White Identitarian is to choose Whites over non-Whites. Jews are arguing how best it is to deal with Whites. Miscegenation… Read more »

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

“White Nationalists” are not merely some mirror image of jews. What we are, is Whites who have awoken from jewish brainwashing that destroyed our people’s natural and healthy ethnocentrism. What we are is Whites who believe the same things our ancestors all took for granted, up until about the 1960’s or 70’s. Clearly, the entire history of European man has been ethno-nationalist or tribalist, or we wouldn’t be here today.

Scotcho Rouleau
Guest
Scotcho Rouleau

What I meant was these prominent Jews never once thought their own ethnocentrism would create a white nationalist backlash. They blithely went forward with their Zionist neocon agenda and it never once occurred to them that white Americans would rise up and drive them out, which is happening now.

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

I think it definitely occurred to them, because they’ve been through something eerily similar in the not too distant past. Frankly, I’m sure they planned ahead for this eventuality. Did they maybe even instigate it intentionally? The fall of Germany worked out swimmingly for them. Are they trying to replicate the same thing with America?

Regardless, Whites clearly must go our own way. But we should avoid directly repeating history, and walking into what is very likely a trap being laid for us by global jewry.

JosephBleau
Guest
JosephBleau

Kek does not wish his followers to show any mercy towards their enemies

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

I’m Christian, but I’m all out of cheeks to turn.

Joe Putnam
Guest

Most Christianity (using that term int he broadest possible sense to include all who claim the term despite major doctrinal differences) has betrayed the white race. Christianity and white separatism is compatible, as was the norm among white Christians for almost 2,000 years. But then again, 200 years ago Christians were not looking for a rapture either. Modern weakened, race betraying Christianity does repulse many manly men. As I am a Calvinist, and prefer to read guys who have been dead for at least a century, I have no volk versus religion struggle. John Calvin, John Knox, Matthew Henry, John… Read more »

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

Upper middle class liberal Christians that attack kinist and nationalist Christians as “racists” and “anti-Semites” are the heretics. These ideas have no currency whatsoever in the history of Christianity. These are egalitarian tricks that keep this postmodern Antichrist system of globalism in place.

Joe Putnam
Guest

Yes indeed, Bantz Henrikson. The current “Christian” obsessions with Judeophilia, Christian Zionism, the bizarre Hebrew roots movement, and interracial marriage are totally heretical. Globalism is certainly an antichrist principle.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Yeah, I don’t see how anyone believing in the idea that God created all the nations separately (ethnoi) can think it is a good idea to blend all these into one heretical glob. This glob is the Antichrist system, a golem sculpted by the Jews.

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

Yahweh and Yeshua. Yahoshua?

Gesundheit.

Joe Putnam
Guest

I see you have came across Hebrew roots and the sacred name thing. Yes, the “sacred name” movement gets pretty bizarre. I understand that some of them reject the 2,000 years of mainstream Christian thought that the NT was clearly written in Greek, instead claiming it was written in Hebrew and inaccurately translated into Greek. So they want to re- translate it for you to give you a Judeophile NT. One huge problem of course. As there are no original, or even realy old, NT manuscripts in Hebrew, they will just translate it to say what they wan tit to… Read more »

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

I don’t expect to ever find any shed of truth to anything translated from Hebrew.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

Lots of trigger words there, you must be really upset buddy. “Heretics” “attack”
Woww
Criticism is not attacking someone by the say and I’d you think that Jews as less than you, desecration fewer rights, or deserve to have bad things happen to them because they’re Jewish you’re an anti Semitic

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

lolwut gtfo trannie faggot

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

Hahahahn you’re so pathetic it’s painful

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

geigh.wav

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

ahahahah you’re pretty pathetic

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

And you are mentally ill.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

No. I’m not actually. And trust me. I checked.

TransPride
Guest
TransPride

nope

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

We need to revive Ethno-Paganism for Whites. Christianity stated, quite explicitly, from its very inception, that all men are brothers in a way that transcends race and local ethnic culture. And as long as we just spread these powerful ideas be it through brute force or gentle persuasion, by golly, these ignorant savages will come to see The Truth. Not. “Europa” had its own brands of shamanic, “pagan”, folk religions before The Church came through like a bulldozer, destroying the temples where we worshiped and the libraries where we stored our personal histories and spiritual knowledge. Interesting that in the… Read more »

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

A spiritual brotherhood in Christ is different from literally sticking every possible group of people in the same locality.

If the West did not go Christian, Europe would be Islamic. Hitler himself stated that Christianity gave Europe the inner unity to resist Islamization.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Christianity is not coming back. It’s gone.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Atheism is death and nihilism, there’s nothing behind it. “Creating a religion” is a joke. There is no life without Tradition. Christianity isn’t going anywhere among whites.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

I’m not an atheist, nor am I a nihilist. The problem is you’re so stupid and indoctrinated you believe I must be because I’m not cucking for Christ.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

What is your religion, little sperg?

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

At a minimum, I’m not endlessly counter-signaling White people.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

Stop trying to worm out of it. Tell us about your religion.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

You’re sperging. Perhaps you should adopt Africans like your brothers in Christ…
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Wanderer
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Wanderer

Cucks are everywhere, friend.
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

That is revolting, too.

ThomasER916
Guest
ThomasER916

Wanderer, you’re literally so stupid and indoctrinated, you’re so cucked by Christiantiy you believe I must agree with that picture and that goy for no other reason than I’m not cucking for Christ. Seriously, you’re that stupid.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Yes, Christians were the original Multiculturalists. I think we can all agree on one thing though: That picture is utterly revolting.

Wanderer
Guest
Wanderer

If Christians were multiculturalists then why did multiculturalism not exist in western societies until AFTER the west abandoned Christianity?

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
Guest
The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Christianity has a well-documented history of adopting any and all local customs it deemed as beneficial to its own agenda. That is, in a sense, a form of proto-Multiculturalism. You do know that “Catholicism” means “Universalism”, right? It’s also no secret that many of the early Christian Missionaries bred with whatever local savages they were converting that week. So, not only the original Multiculturalists but the original Miscegenists as well.

Zorost
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Zorost

Its called “syncretism”, and it is the norm in all cultures/ belief systems except marxism.

Evolver1
Guest
Evolver1

Huh? It’s a matter of stateways vs. folkways. Or, in simple terms, with the invasion of White lands by non-Whites in great numbers, the propagandists started telling the easily suggestible that diversity is our greatest strength, etc.

Alex Harris
Guest
Alex Harris

As an unabashedly pro-White Christian, I concur. It is absolutely vile.

Bantz Henriksen
Guest
Bantz Henriksen

You would have more in common with that man than I. You’re both heretics.

Evolver1
Guest
Evolver1

Oh, look, a Great White Father and a Great White Mother who have, as their cuck ancestors did, taken non-Whites away from their own people and into their homes as their “family” to teach them to be White inside but Black on the outside people. How absolutely revolting on so many levels.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Yes and I GUARANTEE you they did this in the name of J-E-S-U-S.

craicher
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craicher

Pretty funny I went to a Scandinavian cultural event one time outside Austin Texas. There were these pagan Asatro larpers there with tent, swords and all. One had an adopted Black baby. You act as though paganism will solve this. AGAIN if you cannot read an entire book, this did NOT happen throughout most of Christendoms history. It is the capture of Christianity by the left. Just as they have captured EVERY western institution. Should we just destroy every institution we have from universities to government to religion? Wake up you fool.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

You went to a Renaissance faire once and some autistic fucktards playing Dungeons and Dragons had an adopted black baby and THAT refutes Europa’s Pagan intellectual heritage?

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

There’s 1.5 billion non-White Christians. Adopt another Negro for your shitmix church.

craicher
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craicher

I think I have made clear I am a WN.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

You’re a lunatic. You came into a thread with some stridently pro-white posters, who happen to be also defending Christianity, and you promptly began to counter-signal, attack, and demean them.

This is awesome. The colorfuls can just sit back and eat popcorn while the Christian, Pagan, and atheist Whites all slaughter each other. Hymie is overjoyed.

DaKardii
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DaKardii

Repent and thou shalt be saved.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Fuck off and movest to Africa.

craicher
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craicher

Where all the pagans are making magic potions out of dead babies? Or where raping children to cure AIDS occurs? Where they believe in elves and fairies?

DaKardii
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DaKardii

Christianity didn’t start in Africa, dumba$$.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

The West DID go Christian and Europe will soon BE Islamic. So much for the protection of Jesus.

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

Not a coincidence that the decline of the West correlates with what Nietzsche arrogantly called the “death of God.” Stop believing in things higher than yourself and your life will become meaningless, pleasure-centered, and you will stop having children and defending your faith, family and folk.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Did you miss the part where Europe abandoned Christianity and embraced atheism and THEN began to face extinction?

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

No, I didn’t miss that part at all. If Christianity was so all-powerful, why was it abandoned? Because it was false to begin with.

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

Profound insight, my good sperg.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

The Bible says there will be a falling away from the faith near the end times. No surprises here.

Christianity’s powers are spiritual, not materialistic. God’s kingdom is not of this fallen world.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

100 years of brainwashing through the (((TEE-VEE))).

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

It was destroyed by TV? The eternal mystical force of the White Man was destroyed by a century of people watching TV? Sounds like a lame protector to me.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

Hey, 2-4 hours a week in church Vs. 4-6 hours a day in front of the Electric Jew… What do you expect? Time, exposure, repetition… Your existence, your “beingness” becomes that of a couch-potato. The contents of your mind depend upon what your eyes and ears consume.

For my part, I stopped watching television around 2005 (actually, my TV consumption probably fell off quite a bit before that) because it just became too stupid.

Zorost
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Zorost

Don’t be silly. At least try to keep up the facade that this is a debate intended to lead to greater knowledge

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

I wasn’t being silly but pointing out the poster’s own silliness. Christianity is sold as some all-powerful source of Truth and Spiritual Power but it’s been destroyed by Marxists, Jacobins, Jews, Televisions, Captialism, etc., blah blah blah. We can never look to its own inadequacies when it comes to the crisis we are currently facing.

craicher
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craicher

Wrong the remaining Christian nations in East/Central Europe are the only one’s fighting Islamization. Your pagan nations in the west with their pagan fag parades are the ones coluding with the enemy. Get your facts straight.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

I doubt anyone in a fag parade has ever read Hypatia of Alexandria, Marcus Aurelius or the history of the Eleusinian Mysteries. I would bet that most of them have stepped foot in a church, many, many times. You’ve simply adopted the word “pagan” (probably from bad YouTube videos) and used it to mean anything that goes against your Christian meta-narrative, which is largely fictional.

craicher
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craicher

Yea the new Left churches. When Christendom reigned sodomy was punishable by death.

I guess you never heard of the original fag parades in Rome?

Yes ancient learning and philosophy is part of our heritage. Something you can thank the monks for preserving for our posterity.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Here we go again, the “new Left churches” you dislike aren’t the REAL Christians. That’s the go-to response of Christians the world over when confronted with evidence undermining their religion’s credibility. The ancient learning and philosophy forming the foundation of Western Civilization was already preserved. The monks just stole what they found expedient to their agenda, destroyed what they didn’t and hid everything else.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

That’s true. Many of them are more vocal about Islamization. But the Muslim parasites haven’t invaded their countries simply because they are less wealthy and have less resources to rob, not because a Polish dude with a megaphone said he will defend Poland in the name of Christ.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

We need something far more robust and racially aware than Paganism. We need White identity, everywhere and in everything.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Read Marcus Aurelius’ “Meditations”.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Nice revisionist history. It was actually pagans that were destroying libraries and burning down monasteries. It was Christian monks that were preserving the Graeco-Roman classics of literature and science. Pagans were nigger-tier and their traditions were so shit that they willfully abandoned them for Christianity. Get over it.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Actually, you’re the one engaging in revisionist history. See Karlheinz Deschner’s “Criminal History Of Christianity” and John Lash’s “Not In His Image”.

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

kek @ using Wagner as an avatar and attacking Christianity.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

You know “The Ring Cycle” is a compendium of pagan mythology, right? Have you ever even read Wagner’s philosophical writings?

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

Yeah, and he advocated a heroic Christianity. Nietzsche despised him for composing Parsifal.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Yeah, towards the end of his life. What can I say? He cucked.

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

He knew he was going to die, and that it was time to grow up. Vilgardism gets old.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Way to mind-read, bro. I always wondered what Wagner was thinking when he found out he was going to die.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Nietzsche also praised Jewry for pretty much the entirety of his career as a writer. “I also do not like these latest speculators in idealism, the anti-Semites, who today roll their eyes in a Christian-Aryan-bourgeois manner and exhaust one’s patience by trying to rouse up all the horned-beast elements in people…” That’s the Alt-Right’s hero himself, ol’ Friedrich.

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

oic

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

This is a good history on how much Nietzsche loved the Joos: http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Dalton-Nietzsche.html

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

I am aware.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

That same opera that popularized devil horns on viking helmets because the vikings were pagans and thus evil?

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

“That same opera that popularized devil horns on viking helmets because the vikings were pagans and thus evil?”

This is why you’re useless. You always counter-signal Whites. You always tear down Whites. You’re completely useless to White people and so is your Jewish cult. You had your chance to defend Whites and instead your cucked.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Sorry you can’t handle a little banter. :^)

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Sorry you’re a Christcuck :^)

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Everybody cucks for something. I’ll take God over shallow materialism.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

No. You cuck for something. Those are your values. That’s what you believe.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Based on your broad definition of the term it applies just as easily to yourself and your slavish devotion to your materialism.

The worst kind of cucking is one who doesn’t even know he’s a cucking. At least be self-aware.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Based on your autistic faggotry, you’re a Christcuck. You and your cult raises other people’s children. That’s where the term comes from: Cuckoo, a brood parasite bird the lays eggs in other birds nests to raise their young.

Open wide Jamal! Here comes the Body of Christ!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CVNg1VZ_Pkk/TzVnmfgYwvI/AAAAAAAADVQ/vJN4aks76AQ/s1600/cuckoo-reed-warble_1610207i-small.jpg

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Oh my god, this is getting old. One of the central HEROES of the entire drama is the character Siegfried. In his writings on an unrelated work, a drama of the Holy Roman Emperor Friedrich Barbarossa, he described him as “a historical rebirth of the old, PAGAN Siegfried”. See that, P-A-G-A-N. That’s the hero of the drama he’s referring to. I suspect you’re just trolling to troll at this point.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Karlheinz Deschner’s work almost exclusively focuses on attacking Catholicism. Big surprise that organized religious bureaucracy is a problem. The Papacy’s sordid history is not ignorant to Christians. The Reformation happened for a reason.

John Lash is a David Icke-tier nigger who believes in Reptilian Archons and Jewish Gnosticism. Great source.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Gnosticism has nothing whatsoever to do with Judaism. Am I talking to an Evangelical here?

Wanderer
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Wanderer
The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Did you really just link to a Jewish Encyclopedia? Presumably operated by Jews?

Wanderer
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Wanderer

You’d be surprised at what gems you can find in there when they think no goys are around to read it. Look at the entry on the Atlantic Slave Trade and they’re totally open about how it was a Jewish endeavor, for instance.

Anyway do you have any credible evidence to suggest the article on Gnosticism is wrong?

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Yes but I can’t respond until I get home. It would take too long.

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

Actually, the sects that came to be called Gnostics (Sethians, Valenineans, Basilideans, etc) by the Church Fathers developed directly out of Judaism. Alexandrian Jews, especially.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

Oh, one of those. “Everything bad within the history of Christianity isn’t REAL Christianity.” Yawn.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

If it goes against the strict doctrines then yes, it isn’t real Christianity. You either follow the scriptures or you don’t.

Does your source attack doctrine? No. He attacks a corrupted and bloated bureaucracy masquerading as the faith.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Does your church still say that homosexuals should be killed?

craicher
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craicher

why? are you worried?

Evolver1
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Evolver1

One of the saddest things about Catholicism is that the priests and nuns, who are often intelligent and well educated, must be celibate. This means, of course, that they do not pass on their genes and that they are dead ends and do not help Whites survive just be the simple act of making more like themselves. The most important thing that any White can do to save Whites from extinction is to have as many White children as possible. We are all here now, reading this because our parents and their parents and so on back to the first… Read more »

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Mandatory celibacy is not in the Bible. Unfortunately for Catholicism they have a lot of influence from Buddhism and other eastern trash. The Bible says that a pastor should be a family man and that a Christian should be fruitful and multiply. Even in today’s degenerate modern age you see fundamentalist Christians having 5-10 children. Of all the whites it’s fundamentalist Christians who reproduce the most.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

And, so you, you personally, have 5-10 children?

Bantz Henriksen
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Bantz Henriksen

That was an idiosyncrasy from Rome. The Orthodox don’t do that.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

John Lash is “nigger-tier”? He’s red-pilled hundreds of thousands of people on Hitler and White Identity. See his interviews on Red Ice and other similar forums. Meanwhile the Pope loves faggots. Yay.

craicher
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craicher

All you have to do us search Lash to see he is a fraud. And a drug addict who communes with demons when he is high.

craicher
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craicher

Yep the pagan satanists on here will never admit that when their ancestors were introduced to the true, one god, they willfully converted. Violence was rare. It was our own elites, our natural leaders who lead us out of human sacrifice and barabarism.

Zorost
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Zorost

Why would we convert to a weak-ass religion that was destroyed by a religion you claim was faggoty and inclusive?

Christianity can be interpreted any way people want. Just look at the many forms it has taken.

The Charismatic Curmudgeon
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The Charismatic Curmudgeon

I don’t “claim” Christianity is built on a spiritual ideal of inclusiveness, it is. Ask the most uneducated Pentecostal girl in Kentucky or a Professor of Theology at Oxford and both would agree that Christianity’s most prominent and fundamental feature is that of a spiritual brotherhood of man that transcends all racial boundaries. And, yes, Christianity can be interpreted any way people want. That’s part of why it has so miserably failed us.

Man of White Skin
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Man of White Skin

Shit like this makes me want to jizz my pants. Jewish cunt is now realising what a terrible, terrible mistake they’ve made. Prepare thy anus.

Gubbler Chechenova
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Gubbler Chechenova

“Gender Studies” in a nutshell. Islaminatrix is the latest ‘perversion’. http://english.onlinekhabar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Shepard-GreaterThanFear1.jpg In a way, all this gender-madness sort of makes sense. No matter what the race, religion, nationality, ethnicity, cult, or community, all humans are sexual beings, and we all exist because of sex(of parents). For most of humanity’s existence, sexuality was animal-and-functional. People went into heat, had sex, and produced life, and that is why humanity survived. It was on the level of eating raw meat and veggies to survive. But with civilization, order, and more freedom, sexuality became like cooking. Not just animal and natural but cultural and… Read more »

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

Is anyone ever going to ban this guy? He’s using several Alt-Right websites’ comments sections as his own personal blog. He’s written VOLUMES of TL;DR posts under at least 4-5 different aliases.

Gubbler Chechenova
Andrea Astrov Letania
Patria Matria
Alt-Right Studies
…There is at least one more, can’t remember the name at the moment.

I’m sure he’s up to about 5,000 pages of text at this point. He’s clearly a full-time, paid professional. And 95% of the time, he posts completely off-topic.

Get your own damn blog, Gubbler!

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Yehudah Finkelstein

Everyone just ignores Gubbler’s copy pasta

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

I ignore most of it now, but occasionally there is something worthwhile in there. Still, very annoying. Bad form.

Sir Richard of Wales
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Sir Richard of Wales

christianity is a jewish tool to push egalitarianism and guilt whites into NOT being tribal or look after their own interests. IMO, white cucked christians are the worst and help literally perpetuating their own decline.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

OMG, you are dumb! 1500-2000 years of Christianity with no signs of cucking or ethnomasochism… The Crusades… Christendom conquers North America, Australia, South Africa, colonizes and civilizes most of the dark-skinned peoples of the world… European Man reaches his scientific, cultural, artistic, musical, architectural pinnacle… In the Bible, Christ specifically calls out the jews as “the synagogue of Satan”… Christ threw the money changers out of the temple… Martin Luther, the father of the Protestant Reformation wrote a book entitled “On the Jews and Their Lies”… 60-70 years of Christianity being subverted by jews, money, homos, and the state… *YOU*… Read more »

Zorost
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Zorost

Unfortunately many think history didn’t exist before they had conscious memory. If they didn’t experience it themselves, it didn’t happen. Organized Christianity sucks now, therefore it has always sucked.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

It was/is premised on the worship of a dead Jew. With that as a premise it was bound eventually to be seen as bad for White survival. Perhaps, we are at that point at least with many Whites.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Christianity is the worship of God who sacrificed his own life for us and asks for almost nothing in return. The fact that God chose to manifest himself in the flesh in the body of an Israelite is completely besides the point. Also, you fail to remember that it was also the Jews who murdered God. When white societies were predominantly Christian they persecuted Jews, kept them in ghettos, and forbid them to have any power in their societies because they believed Jews to be a cursed people. All that was a hell of a lot better for white survival… Read more »

Evolver1
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Evolver1

You clearly conflate Christianity with Whiteness. That’s an error in thinking. The two terms are not synonyms. And, all your are doing is repeating your Sunday school lessons. I don’t think many awakened Whites on sites like this are buying it. But, maybe I’m wrong.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

Look into older Christian writings and read up on European history. Look at how earlier Christians regards Jews and why they felt this way.

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Evolver1
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Evolver1

Do you live in AD 344 or AD 2017? The flaws in Christianity have caught up with it today–love of Gays, Gay leaders, Trans leaders, do your own thing, and worst of all a belief in one type of human. And, it is this latter point that is helping with the genocide of Whites since those who believe in one type of human have no natural defenses against miscegenation and turning their White family lines ever darker and never again White.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

You seem to be confused. You’re attacking modernism and degeneracy and then blaming it on Christianity.

If those beliefs are Christian then why did literally nobody believe in them until the modern age? They should have been present in Europe for the last 2000 years.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Well, gather up your fellow true believers in the dead Jew and see if you can save Whites from genocide. I wish you the best, and hope you succeed. In the meantime, I’ll follow my own beliefs that put Whiteness above all else, and if no one else believes as I believe, that’s their problem. I’ll save myself and my family.

Wanderer
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Wanderer

We already are saving whites from genocide. Christian fundamentalist whites have the highest birthrates out of any other type of whites. I wish you luck.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Actually, I think you’ll find that it is Mormons who have the highest birthrate of any Whites, but just as with Christian fundamentalists, they’ve started to become just another miscegenationist church of what’s happening now and so PC that the original religious teachings that go against what’s happening now are ignored.

craicher
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craicher

Yea love of gays is a Christian doctine! You really need to learn to read.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

You need to pay attention to the world around you.

Man of White Skin
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Man of White Skin

Ignore him, Alex. He’s talking utter shit.

Man of White Skin
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Man of White Skin

I understand your frustration though. I’m tired of the “Dead kike on a stick XD” maymay.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

I’m sure that a lot of the people pushing that meme are jews trying to divide and conquer, or more importantly, trying to get us to relinquish our chance at salvation. “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.” If Christianity is a jewish tool, why do they hate Christ so much? See the video of the Israeli girl, “Toffee and the Monkey”, where she mocks an effigy/puppet of Christ on the cross and… Read more »

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Why do Jews hate Jesus so much, you ask? He claimed to be the Jewish Messiah and did not fill the bill and for many other reasons that you can certainly discover on your own.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

Yes, I know. The jewish messiah is the one who will rule the world with a rod of iron, deliver up all the property of the goyim into jewish hands, provide each jew with 4,000 goy slaves, and enforce the jewish ideal of “law and order” which is: “A jew may do whatever he damn well pleases, while a gentile is permitted to do nothing at all.”

Clearly they are looking for the “messiah” that will indulge all their most base urges. That would be the Anti-Christ. “Do what thou wilt.”

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Here we go again with the false cause arguments. It is not Christianity that has made White people as we are, it is our genes. Christianity was an older version of the ad nauseum self-help, seminars put on by modern day ((( ))) for easily suggestible audiences.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

I’ve got your jewish self-help seminar right here, Evolver…

Look how suggestible all those rubes are!

Wanderer
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Wanderer

The only egalitarianism in Christianity is in regards to salvation in that potentially anyone could get saved. Everything else about Christianity is strictly hierarchical. Even Heaven itself does not have equality. You are rewarded in Heaven by your works in life and not everyone in Heaven will be the same. Also, if God created nature and nature clearly is not about equality, then why would equality be a Christian belief? It’s not.

Egalitarianism sprung up from the Enlightenment and the French Revolution. Egalitarianism is anti-Christian, liberal, modernist, atheistic cancer.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

I think we should preserve a society with equality before the law (i.e. nobody is above the law), and the possibility for upward mobility, but that is where the egalitarianism should end.

Sir Richard of Wales
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Sir Richard of Wales

presently it’s being used against us. the past doesn’t really matter at this point. we can only impact the present and future. today, most christians are totally cucked. very few aren’t. and you can see how those who wish to steal our countries and civilization are using the guilt of christians and the egalitarianism of it’s teaching against us.

Zorost
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Zorost

The past matters because it shows us that what you complain about isn’t an intrinsic facet of Christianity. Which nullfies most of the anti-christian nonsense spouted on this thread

Sir Richard of Wales
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Sir Richard of Wales

that may be true; but christianity is not the original faith of white people. i find it interesting that there is a correlation and causation of with the fall of rome and rise of christianity and the infiltration of jews within the west. jesus was a jew. all the old teachings are based on judaism and new teachings are essentially man made to control and rule over the people. and now it has evolved to where it has been fully subverted in the west to teach egalitarianism; we are all “god’s” children, jesus would let them in, etc. etc. You… Read more »

Zorost
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Zorost

The original faith of whites was probably animism, like what exists in Africa today. If you meant paganism, I dated a pagan for a few years. Crazy-ass liberal chick, voted for Obama 2x. Most of the primary sources on paganism are from those who destroyed it. Many of the secondary sources are people with an axe to grind. I sort of see Dr. Pierce’s point about creating a new white religion, except since many won’t ever convert it probably just ends up adding fuel (fools?) to the fire. Plenty of empires w/ no jews even on the same continent have… Read more »

Evolver1
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Evolver1

My religious views are White/religious. The latter is subsumed under the former and is in total accord with the former and NEVER takes priority over it.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

We discussed this at length in another thread, so let’s not rehash it much here. I don’t think anyone posting or reading here is going to be foolish enough to throw their racial brethren under the bus due to MOST ideological or religious differences.

…But you sure do seem eager to drive home the point that the material is more important than the spiritual…

Evolver1
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Evolver1

We are made of matter. Without matter we do not exist.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

Man is more than a sack of meat. Without the right ideas, we will also cease to exist. This is clearly demonstrated by the conditions of the White race under the current regime of psychological and spiritual degradation. If people has simply held to the Biblical admonishment to “be fruitful and multiply”, our birthrates would not be in the toilet.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Christianity is saying “be fruitful and miscegenate.”

Just look at Mexico and South America for the past several hundreds of years. Look at the White world today. Christianity is eager to take from Whites and give to non-Whites; and to urge Whites it’s our moral duty to adopt non-Whites.

Christianity has long outlived its usefulness. Better to come up with another form of neurolinguistic programming than make the same mistakes.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

Let’s be clear here. What infests the churches today is NOT Christianity, and that is exactly the problem. If Christians had stuck to the traditional forms of the religion, none of this would be going on. The problem is that churches were infiltrated, subverted, corrupted, bought off, or simply tried to align their teachings with the latest Madonna video on the (((MTV))).

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Today? Who the fuck is talking about today? I’m talking about hundreds of years of history where Whites miscegenated in Mexico at the behest of the Church. What “infiltration” occurred 400 years ago that made miscegenation a moral good because the low-IQ Amerind would now be part of the family of Christ?

Mexico is full of low-IQ non-Whites. Christianity does not care about Whites.

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

The Spaniards, in their conquest of Latin America, miscegenated. Therefore Christianity = miscegenation?

I think you’re leaving out a few hundred million White Christians from your assessment. Try the ones who conquered North America, Australia, South Africa, and the ones who remained at home in Europe.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

Nope. The Whites that conquered were conquering because they’re White, not by the blessing of any church. Whenever the church is involved it forces Whites to cuck. Wherever the church blessed the White explorers they pushed miscegenation.

Evolver1
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Evolver1

Well, then, it is up to you and those who think as you do to get what you believe to be true White Christianity back on the right track. Posting here probably isn’t doing enough in that regard,but it is something rather than nothing. As for me? Anything that increases the biomass of White genes on this planet is what I want to see and I don’t much care if someone worships a dirty sock hanging on a wire or dead bug in their backyard..

Alex Harris
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Alex Harris

That attitude sounds a little more amenable to cooperation between Whites of different spiritual persuasions. Stick with it.

craicher
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craicher

You mean those countries who are run by a White Christian elite who loath race mixing?

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You mean those miscegenated countries that are run by shitmix Whites that hate real White people?

craicher
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craicher

You are a confused young man. I feel for you. Learn about the world then come back.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You’re autistic. I don’t feel for you. I’ve been to Mexico over 200 times. I’m not coming back to you.

craicher
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craicher

And there you hung out with the White elite? You know them well? All over Latin America the White ruling caste certainly does not hate White people and is self consciously European and Catholic. Imagine that, Christian, White and not (your favorite word) cucked.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You really are stupid.

First you tried to claim that I don’t get out, that I’m somehow sheltered from the glory of White run Latin America. Now you’re moving the goal posts. Christians are the first SJWs. You argue just like them.

OK retard, explain how Whites in Mexico and Brazil are better off than Whites in America 60 years ago when America was 90% White.

craicher
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craicher

That was never a claim I made. I said they were White, Christian, and segregationists. In fact becuase they have to live behind barbed wire its a portent of our future.

ThomasER916
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ThomasER916

You’re wrong. Mexico is completely miscegenated. You’ve never been to Mexico like I have. It’s a Turd World shithole and there’s no coming back.

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