Stephen McNallen, of the Asatru Folk Assembly, weighs in about the spiritual nature of the struggle that Europeans face.
The Asatru Folk Assembly, or AFA, an organization of Germanic neopaganism, is a US-headquartered, but international folkish Ásatrú organization, with chapters worldwide, founded by Stephen A. McNallen in 1994.
145 Comments on "Our Struggle Is A Spiritual Struggle"
NOTE: the response above is given *in support* of McNallen’s arguments. Essentially primitive/ Orthodox Christianity and Asatru both agree on several spiritually profound truths. So, this is at least one area of common ground that we can celebrate together.
If you embrace paganism as a way of “rejecting leftism”, it won’t work. You will, as a matter of fact, end up spending quite a long time around leftists . . .
Honestly I’m not sure what’s sadder, the fact that there are people out there practicing “Asatru”, or the fact that there are people other than stupid teenagers doing so.
It is important for us to escape the trap of the middle-eastern religions and return to true spirituality
I never called you a jew though I think you unwittingly do their bidding. Nice grab for attention. I see the victimology,aggreived minority mentality coming through. Us white men are not aggreived minorities. If you are so white and so proud then stop with the victim game.
You trolling is soooo weak. Are you new in this? Please tell your superior at IDF/Mossad/SPLC/whatever that you need more training, or more brains.
Get across the wall back to Mexico, you scumbag.
Bullshit. Go elswhere.
White men’s gods need to call a truce for now.
Such a tiny brain reply. About what a none too bright high school freshman might write. No substance, just an attempt at further insults. Silly little ((( ))). We see you.
I smell bagels.
OK, this thread has now reached reductio ad bagelum. “You’re a jew!” “No, you’re a jew!”
Time to call it quits.
Which is why the alt right is destined to be nothing more than a tiny footnote in the encyclopedia of failed political movements. Idiots wasting time name calling and divided more than ever. If anyone disagrees with you, you just call them a “cuck”. Just infantile garbage that preteens would utter. I mean seriously going back to paganism? Why?
“Cuckservative” clearly helped Trump come to power and marginalize the RINO’S and Neocons. Words, including seemingly silly epithets, can be very effective. Look at how much damage our enemies have done with words like “racist” and “homophobe”.
If you believe the Alt Right or some future mutation of it is destined for failure, then please, go crawl off and find a hole to die in somewhere.
I’m glad that you finally agree with my assessment of Evolver1 after a few more interactions with him, though.
The White.You are wrong. Most white Christians put fellow whites first. Why do you think they flee the diverse neighborhoods?
To repeat, we don’t need roll playing religions to divide us. Thanks again.
Totally agree. Maybe those running this site should simply not put these divisive issues on here. We will never agree and it causes infighting. I think pagans or Christians for that matter should publish spiritual issues on spiritual sites. It goes with my Perrinialist belief that the function of state secular power should be seperate and superior to ecclesiastical power. Maybe they should consider this as this is a secular movement.
I think elevating the secular authority above the spiritual might have been one of our biggest mistakes. I’m not quite sure that I’m arguing for theocracy here, but the “higher power” has to be the highest power and authority.
If every White Nation was governed by an actual, Biblical, Christian theocracy, everyone in the Alt-right would have 99% of the perfect future that they envision. — And they’d all declare victory.
Most likely. I still stop short of calling for open theocracy. But the sacred must be restored to the highest place of honor in our society.
You are wrong. Kings rule not priests.
Ok, yes. I understand the different roles. But as an example, it is very bad for our culture to have the tallest buildings in any city being the bank building. It is a symbolic and very significant display of power. Somehow, we must re-center our society around the sacred, not the financial, and not simply the secular power of the state. We don’t want the bank as god, nor the state as god.
It would be called the New Dark Ages.
Only for you and your perfidious tribe, Chaim.
Is there something inside white people that urges them to fight against racial brothers because of religion?
The enemy is not your brother who worships Odin or Jesus, the enemy is the racial enemy who is destroying our race and our civilization. Focus your energy fighting the enemy and not picking stupid internet fights against brothers.
You really like to mud the waters eh? you are either a) a religious nut or b) a paid troll/shill.
And should I learn to respect Whites that join Scientology? If your religion is bunk and divisive to boot, I think I don’t need to respect. If I knew you zi could respect you but not your religion.
And, if YOUR religion is bunk and divisive to boot (as is Christianity) then awakened Whites should not respect it. However, and speaking just for myself, I seldom criticize anyone’s religion—except when they go out of their way to criticize or denigrate or posit ideas that are harmful to Whites. And, Christianity–a Jewish sect–is inherently harmful to Whites.
Forming a divisive cult is good for whites? The message is good just not the step if forming a minority religion within our ranks.
“Almost anything in the Bible that seems to contradict the current trends
are simply ignored by most Christians (there are exceptions but they
seem very few in number). Take homosexuality. The Bible teaches that
homosexuals should be killed. Now, many Christians are even making
homosexuals their church leaders.”
Umm. — You just made the case that a revival of Biblical Christianity would restore the White, Western world.
Even you foaming-at the-mouth anti-Christs actually know the truth.
You only pretend not to because of your snarling hatred of Christ and Christianity.
I don’t “hate Christ.” I just think he doesn’t matter.
Christianity never made sense any way, even given its own assumptions. Christian theology states explicitly that god’s creatures can rebel against him, starting with Satan in heaven, and then Adam & Eve on earth. What keeps that from happening again and again?
For all we know, for example, some Christian reading my post has drawn the short straw in the next stage of god’s plan where god had destined him to rebel against him in heaven and become the new Satan.
I suppose it hasn’t occurred to you, but your choice to not engage in even a cursory level of inquiry into a subject doesn’t say anything about the subject, but only about yourself.
You clearly never lived somewhere like Eastern Europe or the American South. Two places where Christian morality is not completely wiped out. I would say most Chistians in said places do not agree with the pc agenda at all. Even most Catholics consider the Pope to be an anti-pope. I would venture to say you live in a post-Christian place. Possibly the Pacific North West or Scandinvia?
“You clearly never lived somewhere like Eastern Europe or the American
South. Two places where Christian morality is not completely wiped out.”
I live in the American South.
And I completely agree with you that a huge percentage of Christians still follow what the Bible actually says and not what some leftist, milquetoast, TV pastor says.
Maybe your response to my comment was because I started my comment by quoting Evolver1, who was attacking Christianity. — Those are his words. Not mine.
The majority of the Alt-Right are Christians. — I’m one of them.
You’re right. Thought it was you. I’m also from the South.
Nope, I was pointing out how when you start with a false premise, things eventually fall apart. Say, do you advocate killing homosexuals or do you pretend those parts of the Bible aren’t there?
“I was pointing out how when you start with a false premise, things eventually fall apart.”
No you weren’t.
You clearly implied that the Bible started with a correct premise, and that Christians had drifted away from it.
You’ve already proven that you constantly attempt to re-write history.
Now you’re attempting to re-write your own comments.
You’re really bad at this, Chaim.
We’ve definitely passed “peak-Jew”.
I advocate swift and merciless execution of pedophiles, after a fair and speedy trial. Homosexuals back in the closet, no adopting children, no public displays of their perversion, no bogus snowflake “identities”. Bugger each other in private if you like, and risk hell.
same here. And once the pedos were dealt with the number of homos would drop drastically as that is how they reproduce. Like a vampire turns its victim with a bite, the homos grow their population by molesting boys who become homos. Kill those evil bastards.
Why is AltRight Dot com pushing this new-age-infused, pagan LARPer propaganda?
Advanced, White, Western Civilization is Christendom.
We’re not going to conquer the stars by devolving back into bark-eating, bonfire-dancing, ancestor-worshiping, baby-sacrificing, barbaric pagans.
Don’t let AltRight Dot com turn into Renegade Broadcasting — or it will become the joke of the Alt-Right.
Your factionalism is unappealing. I’ve known people who began their spiritual journey with paganism and ended up Christian.
Ancient Christians didn’t have as much contempt for pagans as you do. They often got along well together, but you never hear about the fighting that didn’t happen, you only hear about the fighting that did happen. Nonetheless missions were accepted and gradually won over many populations through friendship.
Who said we were going to eat bark? Very silly attempt to smear. Try to think deeper.
Bark can be good for you. It’s where asprin and other natural remedies can be found. But you miss the point. How about animal sacrifice? Human sacrifice? You do know that your flying around in the sky gods called for blood? Read that arab who wrote of a viking burial. It involved gang rape and human and
animal sacrificr. When the death angel old hag comes in to stab the poor girl….wow!
“To think that all members and different parts of a Nation would like to only have a single choice of religion/world-view, is the true LARPing here.”
The entirety of the White World was called “Christendom”, until (((certain people))) recently replaced the term with the term “Western Civilization”.
For a thousand years, foreign races didn’t call us “White men” — they called us “Christians”.
“That didn’t even go down well in N.S. Germany.”
Gee. — Really?
“We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity… in fact our movement is Christian.”
— Adolf Hitler
And, if you understood even more–maybe you can read a book sometime–you’d realize that Hitler knew that the people of Germany needed this talk supporting Christianity. It was a politically good move and necessary. His real beliefs were different even though he was a nominal Catholic.
“Hitler knew that the people of Germany needed this talk supporting Christianity. It was a politically good move and necessary. His real beliefs were different”
Well now you’ve outed yourself, Chaim.
This is practically a word for word recitation of the Jewish, wartime propaganda against Hitler, intended to stir the White Christians of Europe and America into a righteous rage against Germany and Hitler.
You’ve picked the wrong place to spread your Hasbara propaganda, Chaim.
We deal with your ilk everyday.
The defining characteristic of the Alt-Right is that we’re Jew-wise.
We see you.
You need to spend less time on video games and more time learning.
I don’t play video games.
My favorite pastime is hunting, and exposing, Hasbara-trolls. — Like you.
Time to change your Disqus name, Chaim. — You’ve been caught.
So you like killing. Do you advocate killing homosexuals as called for in the Bible?
I once read a Swedish leftist writer who writes fantasy novels about the Middle Ages. Cant think of his name now. Anyway he claimed his research showed there was NO homosex in Medieval Sweden. The penalty was death and not one person was ever accused!
By expanding the death penalty we could save much suffering and pain. Those already faggotized by the poisonous modern world could be given amnesty if they swore an oath not to practice their abominations.
“Do you advocate killing homosexuals as called for in the Bible?”
So you’d better escape to Israel while you can.
Because most of you kikes are faggots.
We’d have to oven you twice.
I wonder, would the nefarious powers behind the Allies have been able to rally their nations to war against Hitler if he had revitalized Germany under the sign of the Cross, instead of the Swastika? A seemingly minor detail that might have changed the entire course of human history. Maybe he figured he had too many atheistic/socialistic Germans on his hands for the Cross to be an effective rallying point?
Huh. Interesting. Thanks. I didn’t know those details about the symbology of the swastika. I did notice that it echoes the cross with its four arms/quadrants. Both the Cross and the swastika seem to suggest order and rectitude. However, the bent/rotating arms of the swastika suggest a dynamic order, whereas the cross seems to suggest a more fixed, unchanging order.
Wrong. The Thule Society was banned.
Thank you for channeling the inner thoughts of Adolph Hitler, which he never actually communicated to anyone, but which you seem to have divined through supernatural means.
We’re all enlightened by your presence.
Christianity is harmful to Whites. It is a Jewish sect. However, like all religions it has some values that are good and some that are bad. And, while one may decide to take a cafeteria approach to Christianity and deny the bad and only look at the good, this is ultimately a poor approach for Whites who want Whites to survive and thrive because at its heart Christianity is Jewish. This simply can’t be denied–Jesus was Jewish and the “holy books” used by Jews and Christians are essentially the same in the message with some minor differences.
“It is a Jewish sect”
Once again, look at the entire historical cultural output of European Man under Christendom. There has never been any culture more saturated by purity, dignity, innocence, moral restraint, beauty, and the like. NOTHING could be less jewish.
“Where are my genes in the ‘moral restraint'”
Do I need to hold your hand through this? Clearly, had we not lost our moral restraint, our dignity, and our purity, our genes would be propagating just fine.
Post-modern Christianity is an abomination. It has been actively infiltrated and corrupted by jews, the state, and the money power. Most pastors are mammon-worshiping charlatans. Just because pirates have taken over the ship, doesn’t mean the ship itself is now bad or useless.
You’re arguing with a Hasbara Jew.
It certainly does feel that way, doesn’t it? I do believe you’re onto something. Mark his name down on the list.
Oh, he’s definitely on “The List”.
Corrupted by Jews? it is Jewish.
This is jewish?
Get real. YOU’RE JEWISH. I’m done with you. Consider this my “mic drop”.
“people like you with your belief in childish myths have been a plague on Whites for centuries.”
You really must be Hasbara. Christians have been a plague on Whites for centuries. Just ignore the fact that all the crowning glories of White civilization were achieved by Christians under Christendom. Take your (((meds))) and it will all make sense.
Read my comments about my 23 and me report. Not Jewish at all. I suspect you may be, though.
“Not Jewish at all.”
Sure thing, Chaim. — We believe you.
Hey Hasbara-Jew troll.
You’re not fooling anyone.
And you’re only making it worse for yourself.
You’ll be to blame for the decision to machine-gun your evil tribesmen into pits.
You really need to stop lecturing on a religion you are ignorant of. Stick to what you know.
I know much about Christianity. I was born into it. I left it because it is not based on reason or science and, in fact, is just the opposite. It’s a very silly cult and one that worships a dead Jew.
Most peoples throughout history only had one religion. Paganism is already incorporated into Traditional Christianity so we have no need for paganism. People like Mr McNallen could say a prayer for Thor since he believes him to be a flesh and blood ancestor (and he very well likely is) in church when he worships the true god who is not anthropomorphic. The church would be happy to pray for the souls of long dead pagans.
But if Mr McNallen insist on claiming that his ancestor is a god. Good old fashioned electro shock therapy should cure him.
” the true god who is not anthropomorphic”
I find it hard to envision God as anthropomorphic, but doesn’t that fly in the face of “God made man in his image”?
I’m not a theologian. That ia what they say in the Orthodox Tradition. I’m a Catholic but I no longer pay attention to their authority. The church has been corrupted since Vatican I.
I leave those questions to Biblical scholars and clergy. It takes a lifetime of study, prayer and reflection to know these things. In the same way I leace astrophysics to the scientists.
Your “true god,” is not that at all. He is a dead Jewish Rabbi, who like many Jews in the modern world write self-help books and hold seminars to gain money and prestige from easily suggestible people who are also often the fodder tor stage hypnotists.
” He is a dead Jewish Rabbi, who like many Jews in the modern world write self-help books and hold seminars to gain money”
How brain-dead are you? Christ threw the money changers out of the temple. His second most significant act, after paying for the sins of the world. And I guarantee you, that little detail of history is a huge part of the reason that jews would like us to forget about Christ.
Ah, he paid for the sins of the world. What rubbish and childish twaddle.
“Ah, he paid for the sins of the world. What rubbish and childish twaddle.”
— Said every Jew for the last 2000 years
Your Hasbara isn’t going to work here, Chaim.
You’ll have better luck at the Daily Forward comment-section.
Funny. No Jews in my line as far as anyone in my family knows and this is confirmed by my 23 and me report that shows I’m 100% European without even a trace of Jewish blood. I suspect your family line is not as White. Go take a 23 and me test, my guess from the way you comment is that you will find a few Jews in the woodpile not to many generations back.
I, for one, am not interested in giving my DNA to any (((corporations))). God knows what they might do with it.
Oh, so now you’re claiming that you’re a traitorous, shabbos-cuck and not a Jew.
That changes nothing, Chaim.
“If I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it.”
— Corneliu Codreanu
Sure, just side-step the part about the money changers.
Anyway, on the topic of sin, it is definitely a real phenomenon that we must deal with. Nearly everyone on the Alt-Right agrees we must shun “degeneracy”. Degeneracy/sin, tomato/tomoto…
Jesus was a Jew who was trying to correct some things in Judaism that he thought were wrong. Money changers in the temple was one of those things.
But, do tell us about sin. We’re all sinners, right? Is that your position? And, we all were born sinful because of Adam and Eve?
Sin and repentance are very real. I’ve experienced both in my life, and seen the different fruits each bear. I don’t need to lean on the Bible for my understanding of sin. I’ve lived it.
Jews certainly played a huge role in developing modern psychotherapy.
“Jews certainly played a huge role in developing modern psychotherapy.”
A huge role?!!
Jews invented it entirely.
Jews put great emphasis on learning, and in learning, they try to understand the world around them. That’s something that more of us Whites should also do. Then, we might be rid of those who blindly believe that bumps in the night are angels or demons.
Or those who sacrifice virgins to flying sky gods with a magical hammar.
Obviously are very ignorant of Christianity. Jesus is not god. I mean get some basics before you type. Your words drip with the pagan hatred that I mentioned. Don’t hide. Don’t lie. You know it is true.
Traditional Christianity and most present day Christian churches hold that Jesus is one of the three persons in God and is God.
Wrong. God is thr father and is non anthropomorphic and not even male or female though called the father.
I don’t think the idea of deity can be directly translated between Christianity and Paganism. And I don’t think Pagans in pre-historic times actually believed in deities in a personified form. The Gods are merely symbols of the different forces of nature and of our folk soul, utilized as tools to explain and invoke our true being.
Are the Vedas accessible in any translation or form that can be guaranteed free from the taint of thousands of years of brown “stewardship”? I think we’d be a lot safer sticking to Christianity and the various European Pagan traditions.
That ia true on the Vedas. You’d have to go with what the scholars say.
McNallen is so excellent and inspiring. His voice carries the resonance of Truth.
Like Heaven’s Gate?
Silly comment from you, as usual.
None of us wants your opinion, Hasbara-Jew troll.
I think a huge turning point in White racial consciousness will be the overcoming of religious differences. I believe it will eventually happen. Just look at the solidarity among black Americans. They don’t care if their brothers are Muslim or Jehovah’s Witnesses. We will get there when society is even more divided on racial lines. Just stay tuned.
That’s a good point.
You could always take your govenment pension and move to Mexico where your part native/part Spanish people live. I hear the tacos are cheap.
We did just fine in America before the invasions and we will do just fine again. Besides importing mecs to pick oranges doesn’t mean we have to give them welfare and citizenship. But I’m for a 100% pure White America so I am on principle even opposed to that. It’s a trojan horse, bringing in mud labor.
Cue the Christian Alt Righters complaining about Pagan heathens.
> says christians will start complaining about pagans.
> complains about christians
Yea, let’s get the French, the Irish, the Welsh and so on to celebrate the warlordism of the backwards, backwoods, savage Norse. Yay!
Now come on all pagans, homos, spics and coons let’s all hold hands and sing “kumbaya my lord, kumbaya”
You wouldn’t happen to live on a continent that just so happened to be explored by backwards, savage Norsemen 500 years before any Christian sailor boy set fot on its shores?
“Druids were doing successful brain surgery”
Not bloody likely.
Do you reside in an insane asylum? Real question.
Funny you say that because they were Christians. Hilarious. Don’t you know Iceland was settled by Christians? And the allegorical tales you are woshipping were written by a Christian Snorri Sturelson.
I am in no way opposed to honoring your ancestors. We did it well into the Christian era and some verstiges remain on days like Halloween.
It the part about making it into a LARPing cult.
No, paganism didn’t generate religious conflict because of the practice of syncretism. Everybody had different gods, but they just found equivalents. The head of every pantheon was regarded as the same god, the war god, same god, the fertility god, same god, etc etc.
Religious warfare really only arrived with monotheism, because monotheism renders syncretism impossible. Allah cannot be Christ cannot be Odin. Monotheism is inherently exclusive, but paganism isn’t and this is why their conflicts tended to be secular rather than religious.
They did wage war against Christians but not for religious reasons. They were just as ready to wage war against neighbours with the exact same beliefs.
Pagans have a place in the alt-right. Their perspectives are valued and valid. Personally I’m a Trad-Catholic, but I respect Pagans and agree with the overall point McNallen is making here. Jewry has no power over the goyim when we aren’t buying what their selling and getting back in touch with our traditional spirituality is a good place to start.
great to see mr McNallen here. I personally feel that if the Europeans are going to fight, we need something of our OWN to fight for. Something deep, rooted. as old and primal as the peoples themselves. This native spirituality is complete with all the values of valor, heroism and the pursuit of honor and greatness. Things that universalist and adopted spiritual systems could never give us. (no offence for any Christians present here of course).