And what is this freedom that women should have? Freedom to travel the world on the cock carousel? Freedom to take whore drugs like mdma and explore their sexuality? All leftist poison. Of course they feel like that in a world poisoned by the left. That is what we are fighting.

At what age does biology intervene and a woman cannot give herself to a man? 20? 25? 30? Traditional cultures teach us that at some point women are ruined. There is a good reason our ancestors saw to it that their daughters were married young. It is because they loved them and wanted the best for them.

“marriage and family are not the end of life only the beginning.”

Because our culture is so influenced by Hollywood and TV, that is where young women – and men – get their cultural ideas from. TV shows and movies that focus on romance tend to have the wedding as “the end.” The meat of the story is the romance. Few films and movies show married life as adventurous or desirable and there are likely financial reasons to extend adolescence – easier to sell products to people who don’t have families to think about.

Our culture promotes a form of “individualism” where people see themselves as isolated from their family and their larger culture. The idea that women – and men – have a duty to have children is virtually forbidden, it’s treated as some sort of oppressive slavery.

We no longer have **civic institutions** like churches, social fraternities like the Freemason and the Elks club, family owned businesses where grandpa, pa, and son all work together. These civic institutions provide a status system that appeals to both men and women – instead our status system is based on consumerism, fashion, cars, etc. In the lower classes it even breaks down to African levels of “bling” and “bitches.”

Women are social creatures more than men. If some small town had, say, an Elks club that was the center of social life and conferred status on married families, women would be competing with each other to marry sooner rather than later and have more children.

People respond to incentives – both monetary and social. Healthy cultures have a status system where status is conferred to those who “do the right thing.”

Here is an interesting article about the hipsters in Seattle rediscovering a traditional American civic institution – BPOE – and how the community rediscovered the status system that was lost by the baby boomers during the Age of Television:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/annehelenpetersen/new-world-orders

“For over a century, fraternal orders like the Elks served as the
cornerstone of American social and civic engagement. Here’s how one
Seattle neighborhood has made the Elks, and the community it provides,
cool again.”

These exclusive clubs are not a “plague” except to those left out of them. These clubs were exactly how racial segregation was maintained in America.

“modern mileau of Protestantism, liberalism and secularism”

Catholic LARPing is no different than Pagan LARPing. Catholics blame all problems on Protestants and in the same way Pagans blame all their problems on Catholics.

Liberalism and secularism brought Europe from a civilization to THE civilization that invented modern science, conquered the entire earth, and sent man to space.

In fact, recent problems are precisely because Europeans abandoned liberalism and secularism and devolved back to superstition and totalitarianism.

I did think twice about mentioning the Freemason because I knew it would trigger the Catholic LARPers, but I figured why not.

Catholic ideology wants all humans to mix after all, it’s just as universalist as Masonry or “liberalism.”

Catholics have failed to keep control of their own Catholic Church so now they are being entryists in the White movement. It was the Protestant “White are the True Biblical Israelites” that used to do that but they were chased off by the early days of the internet.

You do a disservice to Catholic LARPers most of whom are able to argue their side far better than you.

Either way, it’s all moot. You can’t even control your own Catholic church, so you can whine about the Freemasons and the Protestants and the liberals all you want. If you can’t even keep your own house in order why the hell would anyone want to follow your advice?

Go back to your own Catholic church and fix it – then maybe the rest of us will find something worthwhile there. You don’t see White advocates going into the Catholic church and trying to fix them – it’s always the other direction.

After reading both yours and Hipster Racist comments I have to say both branches of the church are to blame. It’s time to move forward and instead of fighting amongst ourselves find a new way forward. Let the dead bury the dead.

Exclusive invitation only clubs are anathema to our people. pure social poison.

Hipster retard. I’ve news for ya. If you are a white man your people were of the universal church. No larping going on here. Just traditional western culture.

For sure the Third Reich banned the Masons because they were just decent subversives.

signing off, hipster retard

Dear hipster retard, i wonder”why are you here?” Please explain to us why you lurk here.

This is not a religious fight. I am Catholic by tradition. all of europe is.

I smell a yid!

“every king of the last 1400 years would turn in his grave to hear a traitor like you.”

Good luck restoring the monarchy. I heard the NRxers are taking donations. Tell Curtis Yarvin the Jew we said hi.

Um, there is more than one club. There are the Masons, the Elks, the Moose, the Woodsmen, the Lions – hey, even Catholics have the Knights of Columbus. What exactly is the problem? For people who for whatever reason can’t get into one of those clubs, you can always start your own.

My point was that these social clubs, which used to be very common in American society, provided a status system that promoted marriage, children, and family. The loss of these social clubs, largely due to television, was a major factor in the breakdown of traditional American society.

Then, of course, you went on some rant about Hitler and Protestantism.

If you are such a loser that there is literally no social club in America that would allow you to join, and the best you can do is find comfort in a church – which kind of has to take anyone – well, that is your problem and no one else’s.

As they say, Jesus loves you, as for everyone else …

Wrong. You are clearly not well read. Tough to be a hipster retard

yea come on goys. invitation only protestant clubs will save the West!

So hiptard, have you read history? You do realize that all europeans were Catholic? I mean surely you can read?

Thank you for the link.

That’s the “Secret of Gay Suspicion”. Men associating with each other fraternally is recast as suspect these days.