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Michael Flynn Did Nothing Wrong

General Michael Flynn did nothing illegal; in my estimation, he did nothing wrong.

I’m surprised that Trump accepted Flynn’s resignation and that, reportedly, Steve Bannon called for it. This will not lessen the attacks on the administration, which we’ve seen ever since the inauguration. Indeed, it will most likely amplify them, as “The Resistance,” as they call themselves, will be emboldened by getting their first “scalp.”

Lost in the salacious headlines about “Russian espionage” and “treason” is the fact that Flynn did not share any classified information with the Russian ambassador (which would have been grossly illegal). The Logan Act (1799)—which guards against unauthorized negotiations with foreign powers—appears in most stories on Flynn, but it has, in fact, never been enforced and would not be operative in this case.

Flynn’s ultimate crime was charting a new diplomatic course with Moscow—a state that, in a sane world, would be viewed by Americans as a potential ally or, at the very least, one whose interests are not in conflict with our own. This realistic view is unacceptable to those who demand global hegemony, as well as the mass media, who don’t want to lose their new favorite bogeyman.

Flynn’s choice to not give complete information to Vice President Mike Pence was wise and shrewd. Pence is a loyal and decent man, but not an intelligent or independent one. He is a “conservative” of the Dubya Era; in other words, he is steeped in the ideology and policies that Trump (and Flynn) are leaving behind. Pence is the kind of person who would return to the neocon script if given the chance, who views the Soviets—er, Russians—as eternal adversaries, and who would embrace military engagements for reasons of so-called “humanitarianism” and “democracy.” Mommy and Daddy shouldn’t tell the children everything there is to know about the world. . .

Overall, this scandal reveals that Trump lacks the allegiance, not just of the mass media, but of the Deep State, that is, the unelected bureaucratic and legal apparatus of the government. People within the Deep State leaked the information on Flynn’s phone call, and they will attempt to undermine Trump at every turn.

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Abcdedcba
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I’m certainly no fan of Pence but I can’t endorse the idea of keeping secrets from the VP. The president and the veep should see eye to eye on every major issue.

The incompatibility of Trump with Pence was evident even before Pence was selected, but perhaps it may have been unavoidable. In any event, this was a disastrous event all around.

Halford Mackinder
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Its been a little over 24 and Trump’s foreign policy is in ruins. Trump is tweeting that Russia invaded Crimea. Next Trump will be saying “Assad must go” and if/when that happens, we’ll know Trump has been neutered.

Gleimhart Mantooso
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Score 1 point for the DeepState™.

data_file_7
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True, but the game isn’t over.

Donald Suther
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The moment i read the main media article i did a search for ‘Flynn anti semite’. Why? Because it was obvious. Not obvious that he was an anti – semite. He fought against Nazi ideals that define anti semitism. Obvious he was against the Jews’ mass murders of the past and hence a threat to the Jew’s lebesraum in Palestine. I wouldnt align him with neo nazis I would align him as a man who would stand against any and all forms of lebenraum , its promotion and propaganda irrespective of who the perpetrators are. Hence an obvious enemy of… Read more »
Karen Bayer
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I THINK IT’S AN OUTRAGE THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION PARTED WAYS WITH FLYNN. HE WAS LOYAL … STOOD UP TO THE WASHINGTON FILTH … AND DID NOT BUCKLE UNDER PRESSURE TO DO OBAMA’S CRAZED WILL. TODAY IS THE FIRST TIME IN 2 YEARS THAT I’M UPSET AT TRUMP. I WON’T FORGET THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

Triuwida
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There’s probably more to Trump’s action than meets the eye. I wouldn’t waste any energy on being mad at the man.

The Glove Cleaner
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Yeah, you weren’t upset when Trump mocked the disabled man OR attacked a Gold Star family OR bragged about sexual assault OR colluded with the Russian dictator…

All I can say is THANK YOU Karen for announcing your putrid character so loudly. We won’t forget that either.

Karen Bayer
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HAHAHAH !!! You know what?? As soon as the Demo-Cripps call for a probe on Clinton’s illegal server and the 33,000 she bleached “after” the Order To Preserve was issued … then we’ll talk about Flynn. Tit for tat !! About Khizr Khan … The Gold Star Dad … Oh, so you haven’t heard !! Khizr Khan’s lawfirm processed Visas for rich Arabs for which he got paid $500,000 a piece!! And only for RICH Arabs, not the poor. These Arabs now live among us unvetted, unmonitored and no one knows where they are! Pretty cushy deal !! No wonder… Read more »
The Glove Cleaner
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AWWW, FAIL
http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/03/khizr-khans-connections/

Wow, you’re even more delusional than I thought. If Flynn was so innocent then why did he get fired, er resign? Oh right, it’s cuz Drumpf caved like a [email protected]@y. Mmm, let’s see, what else? Oh drumpf campaign colluding with Russia. Well, he’s been pissing off the NSA and CIA so I’m sure the actual transcripts won’t accidentally show up. LOL!

Like I said, you’re just parroting breitbart alternative facts and announcing your putrid character with every comment. You’re rotting from the inside, just like the GOP.

Karen Bayer
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Actally, I don’t read Breitbart at all. Shouldn’t you ask me first what sources I have? Let’s start with this from the Washington Post — https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-reviewed-flynns-calls-with-russian-ambassador-but-found-nothing-illicit/2017/01/23/aa83879a-e1ae-11e6-a547-5fb9411d332c_story.html?utm_term=.2927034157bf Wapo wrote on Jan. 23rd: The FBI already listened to the recordings and “Found nothing illicit in them.” BOUUYAAHH !! As for Russian collusion, let’s see the evidence !! On the other hand, FORMER DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE, STEVE PIECZNICK already issued a statement on November 1, 2016, that he and other Intel agents are the ones who LEAKED the emails — they were not hacked. In other words there was a “Soft Coup”… Read more »
The Glove Cleaner
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Wow, it’s like a waterfall of delusional gibberish.

If Flynn lied to the FBI, it’s a FELONY.
You’re wrong. Whether Comey brings charges (probably not) is beside the point.

Monitoring high level Russian communications is SOP.
So you’re long winded gibberish is wrong again.

“Obama fired Flynn for not lying”?
Um, care to prove that?

Waiting…

Meanwhile, the fascists you worship ARE lying to the American people YET AGAIN this morning. LOL!!! But lying is ok when it’s your side lying, right Ms. Putrid Character?

Karen Bayer
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Let’s pretend we’re in court. Here’s what you’d have to overcome: 1) The FBI already determined there are is “no felonious content” in the calls. 2) SOP of these calls involved a still private citizen, therefore US Code 798 applies and cannot be dismissed. 3) The calls were then leaked to the press — another felony — because they’re considered by State to be classified. As you can see, it’s a viscious cycle from which you cannot escape. But keep laboring. It’s amusing. 4) Mike Flynn was the Director of National Intelligence — and yet Obama refused to meet with… Read more »
The Glove Cleaner
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Sure thing Karen, let’s have a look. 1. Karen Bayer: “Conservative vote for jobs” ^^ WRONG http://media.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/photo/2015/04/15/presidents-jobs-gained-per-yearpng-19d704cc14d3a0a8.png 2. Karen Bayer: “We also removed all the Islamic prayer rugs..” ^^ WRONG http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/phony-prayer-rug-story/ 3. Karen Bayer: “600 calls made by the Benghazi guys, while Clinton went home to bed at 11.” ^^ WRONG http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/06/27/democrats-benghazi-committee-report-destroys-right-wing-media-myths/211228 4. Karen Bayer: “TRUMP has brokered over a million jobs in just two months.” ^^ WRONG https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/opinion/why-corporations-are-helping-donald-trump-lie-about-jobs.html?_r=0 http://www.salon.com/2016/12/29/donald-trump-is-once-again-taking-credit-for-jobs-he-had-no-part-in-creating/ 5. Karen Bayer: “I never said conservatives create more jobs.” ^^ LIE “Here’s what you need to know about us conservatives …AND WE VOTED FOR JOBS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” 6. Karen Bayer:… Read more »
Karen Bayer
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1) Karen Bayer: “Conservatives vote for jobs” THE FACT THAT YOU PRESUME TO KNOW WHY WE VOTED FOR TRUMP, IS THE REASON FOR YOUR GALACTIC, BONE-CRUNCHING, DISEMBOWELING DEFEAT ON NOV. 8TH — WHICH IS YOUR TORMENT FOR THE NEXT 8 YEARS. AND FOR YOU THIS WILL BE LIKE BEING ROASTED SLOWLY IN A BBQ PIT. HAHAHAHA. 2) Karen Bayer: “We also removed all the Islamic prayer rugs..” FACTCHECK.ORG WAS NEVER IN THE WHITEHOUSE, SO THEY WOULDN’T KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. HERE IS A LIST OF SEVEN OBAMA EMPLOYEES WITH PROVEN TERRORIST TIES: http://freedomoutpost.com/muslim-brotherhood-taken-white-house/ MUSLIMS ARE “NOT ALLOWED” TO… Read more »
The Glove Cleaner
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Oh dear, your citing an “The Muslim Brotherhood Has Taken Over the White House” article from the “Freedom Outpost” as objective fact.

I’m clearly out of my depth here… and I mean that LITERALLY.

MEANWHILE, Trump’s implosion keeps steaming ahead…

“Donald Trump Calls The Media ‘The Enemy Of The American People’”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-media-tweet_us_58a76de7e4b037d17d27cab9?

Hey, before you delete your profile in shame when Trump resigns or is taken to prison, just remember…. I’m LAUGHING MY ASS OFF AT YOU…. and in all caps. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Karen Bayer
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Hahahaha. Why would I delete my profile??? And miss our little chats???

Hey … I can’t help it if the Muslim Bros. “got hired” by the White House. How is that my fault?

“Donald Trump Calls The Media ‘The Enemy of The American People” ???

You say that like it’s a bad thing. Have a good day.

The Glove Cleaner
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Karen Bayer: “the Muslim Bros. “got hired” by the White House.”

WRONG AGAIN
Unless you can prove it with an objective fact. Which would really be something considering you haven’t provided even a single objective fact in all of you whacky rantings. Best of luck
xD

Karen Bayer
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Honeychild — if we were in court right now — you lost your case over and over.

About the Muslim White House employees —

All you have to do is click on all the names in the article and —

THEIR NAMES & WHITE HOUSE POSITIONS COME RIGHT UP !!

Really surprised you don’t know this.

Click on this — http://freedomoutpost.com/muslim-brotherhood-taken-white-house/

Then read the background on each of them.

The Glove Cleaner
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Karen Bayer
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Yep, sure is a conservative one. We monitored very closely the FILTH Barry Soetoro brought into “Our” White House. Neverless — the “names” in the article can be clicked on, which takes you straight to their White House Employy Listing — showing their names and positions — which proved what I said — MUSLIMS WHERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE — And Muslims are not all owed to skip their 5-times a day prayer thing. You lose again. (I’m getting tired of winning.) And by the way — Barry Soetoro had close, intimate, French-kissing ties with CAIR as well (the American… Read more »
The Glove Cleaner
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Aw, but for something to actually be true in our world, it need to be corroborated by at least one “objective” source. Which means…. wait for it…. you are WRONG.

If your claim is true, then you’ll have no problem finding an actual OBJECTIVE source. Unless, of course, you can’t or you’re too lazy or you’d rather cry victory in the face of defeat (0 for 22 now).

I’ll wait for your proof. LOL 😀

Karen Bayer
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The official White House online announcements are all you need. Your turn to disprove.

The Glove Cleaner
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Sorry, I missed your link to anything remotely resembling a shred of proof.

Karen Bayer, all talk no substance.

LMFAOOO!!

Karen Bayer
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Karen:

County records show that “Karen” is the authorized counsel of record for the prosecution, as evidenced by these exchanges of the past week. Further, the prosecution has submitted all relevant exhibits, but counsel for the defense refuses to acknowledge said exhibits, which is indicative of their client, Hillary Clinton. Move to disbar counsel for the defense.

Judge:

Motion granted.

The Glove Cleaner
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Still got nothing eh?

No surprise

Karen Bayer
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So, Jeffrey E. Phillips … still selling Viagra “dick pills” ??

(Strike that. No biggy.)

The Glove Cleaner
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STILL nothing eh?

So much for Karen’s facts.
LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Karen Bayer
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Nope. Gave you plenty to research. Get to work!

The Glove Cleaner
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Yawn

Karen Bayer
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Still no refuting evidence? No surprise.

The Glove Cleaner
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Your single fake news site is not evidence.

If you think you have a fact, then back it up with multiple objective citations.

Obviously you can’t. You have yet to prove even one of your delusional claims Karen. Now is your chance, put your money where your BIG mouth is.

Halford Mackinder
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adolf binladin
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hopefully trump will refuse to deal with the managerial elites of the mass state and people will start disappearing

Y Finkelstein
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Grab the Popcorn. Bannon and Miller are trying to kneecap Priebus and Spicer.

We can only hope the GOPe wing is forced out of the White House. The GOPe wing is responsible for forcing out Flynn, now they’re responsible for Spicer’s statement that Trump wants Putin to cede back Crimea to Ukraine.

If this is from Breitbart, you know Bannon is leaking this. We want Bannon to purge the GOPe cucks and fight the Deep State CIA spooks who get fat off hostilities with Russia.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/14/flynn-resigns-priebus-future-doubt-trump-allies-circulate-list-alternate-chief-staff-candidates/

jsigur
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My gut check says getting rid of a war monger is a good thing. Shouldn’t have brought him on in the first place

curri
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Left-wing German blogger: http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/02/the-flynn-defenestration-will-hamper-trumps-foreign-policy.html Trump’s enemies and some intelligence officials accused Flynn of lying about the phone calls with the Russian ambassador. It is unclear what the alleged lies really are and especially why they should matter. Obfuscation is part of any White House business. If Flynn had secretly talked with the Israeli ambassador (which he probably did) no one would have attacked him. So why was Flynn really under pressure and why didn’t Trump back him? It would have been easy for Trump to say: “I ordered Flynn to do that. Obama did similar. In both cases it was… Read more »
data_file_7
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Magic is broken, how many times did I hear that during the election?

curri
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Filthy neocon Eli Lake nevertheless makes some good points: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-14/the-political-assassination-of-michael-flynn Normally intercepts of U.S. officials and citizens are some of the most tightly held government secrets. This is for good reason. Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do. In normal times, the idea that U.S. officials entrusted with our most sensitive secrets would selectively disclose them to undermine the White House would alarm those worried about creeping authoritarianism. Imagine if intercepts of a call between… Read more »
Edward Shattuck
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He allowed himself to be extorted.

VectorPrime
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All there is to know about this story is that Flynn screwed up, and the enemies jumped at the opportunity to crucify him, and in the process proceeded to start dismantling the Trump administration. Personally I think its a blow since Flynn was “on our side” when it came to geopolitics. Expect more of the same over the next years. This is a war, which Trump could very well lose considering he has more enemies than Allies. Most of the power players in the USA and the world, do not want a world where other powers grow to be more… Read more »
Ed Edgerton
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I thought that it was the Deep State that got Trump elected. Remember those reports about supposedly imminent arrests following Wikileaks revelations just before the election? Maybe all this Flynn episode demonstrates is that the Deep State is keeping Trump on a short leash.

Abcdedcba
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The FBI is not the Deep State. It’s certainly not the CIA.

Triuwida
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Who in those departments kept their jobs through the 0bama/Trump transition?

There’s your Deep State. It’s pretty much *all of them.*

Ed Edgerton
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Your comment is so brief that it hardly seems worth responding to. The Deep State must certainly include parts of the FBI.

Abcdedcba
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I should elaborate.

The FBI is “deeper” than the EPA or HUD. It is less deep than the NSA and CIA.

Ed Edgerton
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In my view, the deep state extends through law enforcement agencies, definitely including the FBI. It influences the FBI and local law enforcement through the placement of agents and informants. I don’t think that the deep state equals national intelligence services per se. Instead, it is a more extensive and less easy-to-identify and describe entity.

Crud Bonemeal
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Someone was obviously trying to manipulate alex jones types and conservadads with those reports, but not sure if it was actually the deep state

Ed Edgerton
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I think Alex Jones is a disinformation agent for the deep state.

Crud Bonemeal
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plausible

Tony Daggert
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The leak was likely known beforehand and was coordinated with the journalist to trap Pence with that specific line of questioning. Watching the interview, it reminded me of similar oddly specific questions directed at Trump throughout his campaign that were meant to coincide with an upcoming leak.

Rascal
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This was a dumb move. Even if he lied to Pence this is an exceptionally dumb move. Trucons cannot stand not losing to their enemies. They have to give them victories even in their hour of triumph.

Mailinated
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Why doesn’t posts in the news category show up on the frontpage (altright.com)? It’s the most frequent updated category.

Frequency and ease of reading is one of the most important factors for making people read your blog, you should definitely make the news category show up on the frontpage IMO.

Karen Bayer
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Good idea. The way to do that is — Copy the NY Times and Wapo headlines and name your beta thread the same thing, only with a slight variation. EG:

NY Times: Flynn Denies Russia Collusion Then Quits

Your Thread: Flynn Denies Russia Collusion AND Quits A DAY LATER.

Kalos Kagathos
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They also need to fix the spacing between the pictures and headlines so that it’s clearer which picture goes with each headline.

Crud Bonemeal
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seriously, if this is supposed to be the new alt-right hub it could use some current events content (like this) featured prominently

Instead the front page is full of old and less relevant stuff and the side bar isn’t even visible on my phone

Y Finkelstein
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Yes, I don’t understand why esoteric essays on Iran are front and center instead of breaking news. There is a place for breaking news, just not on the front page of the website.

Phil
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Flynn lied to Pence. Yes, I know Pence is a “basic bitch”, but Richard, you can’t have key advisers lying to the Vice President. Pence is a loyal, docile man … and an evangelical. All Flynn had to say is “muh forgiveness”, and he would have been fine.

Rascal
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Who cares if Flynn lied to Pence? I don’t. Not to this extent. There is more at stake here than trucon morality.

Crud Bonemeal
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I’d like to know more information about the nature of the phonecall and the “lie” before deciding to buy this particular narrative.

For now, I’ll treat the facts as uncertain, and just look at the practical effects of this, which factions win, which lose.

Triuwida
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I still haven’t heard any factual basis for the media narrative that “Flynn lied”. According to his account of the conversations, characterizing what he said as “discussing sanctions” is a huge stretch of the truth. So if that’s true he didn’t even lie to Pence, he simply didn’t repeat every word that was said and the little that was mentioned on the subject just didn’t merit inclusion in his briefing of Pence. Not a lie, by any stretch. Which means this is Deep State Media making a mountain over a molehill, which is what they will do when they have… Read more »
Ryan
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Jajajajaja!

Clinton Gallagher
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AFIK it was the TV that said Flynn lied to Pence. Let us not be distracted from that apparent fact.

data_file_7
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No, that was the reason Trump gave for accepting the resignation.

Crud Bonemeal
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This is troubling, I’m troubled.

Flynn was certainly not our guy. But he was more of an independent, anti-establishment voice than most people working in the DC swamp today.

Whoever takes over his position is likely to be far worse from our perspective,and Trump will have one less independent voice advising him, likely replaced by a more establishment voice urging him to become more of a normal republican.

VectorPrime
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I doubt Trump will put someone who has a diametrically opposed views in this position though.
At least I hope not.

AlbertKesselring
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The Jews wanted him gone because he retweeted an anti-Jew tweet once.

Alek
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Fox News is bringing on a parade of Jews and Neocon enemies of the administration(which is not stated) suggesting names like Lindsey Graham as NSA. This is clearly a coordinated mini-coup by the establishment. Honestly, this was a really stupid thing to fire him over unless his ties to Russia go far beyond what we’ve all heard.

Alek
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The worst thing about fake news is that they intentionally provide no context. They’ll bring on Republicans who are avowed opponents(even endorsing HRC) of Trump and pretend like he’s losing support within his own party. They know Trump has just as many so-called Conservative enemies as far-left foes.

Kev
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Indeed, I worry this event will prove more significant than the people realise. Flynn was the cornerstone of Trump’s entire national security strategy to the extent that he had one. His replacement will call for a tougher stance on Russia for sure.

Dave Smith
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He needs to root the leakers out and throw them in a deep dark hole.

Spanish Inquisition
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It’s not that easy. Basically every bureaucrat is in the federal government is against us.

Cat Ruby
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I think you’re on the right track “root the leakers out”. Flynn was more likely giving this Administration ‘Deniability’ of what’s known yet publicly denied. And, I’m more disappointed that a supposed loyalist President throws the General under the bus so quickly. On this path, The Donald will be mush in two years.

Laguna Beach Fogey
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Helicopter rides.

Fred
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Trump must continue with his agenda, regardless. Shrink legal immigration, build the wall and deport as many illegals as possible. He needs to go medieval on media after reports that Melania is a hooker. Any weakness play to the Satan’s hand, which includes libshit, media, Deep State, racist minorities and other hostile and treacherous element.

echoprinter
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I agree, media is at war with him. He and others in this circle need to do the same.

Je Suis Charles Martel
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Je Suis Charles Martel

His problem is what his problem has always been; he constantly contradicts himself because he can’t keep his story straight.

Andrew
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The problem is that this could happen and likely has in other administrations and nothing happened because such administration didn’t have a bunch of traitors infiltrating them. Flynn indeed did NOTHING WRONG and if this is the dynamic inside Trump’s white house the people who criticize Pence as a Neo-con “True con” bad choice are being vindicated.

VectorPrime
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This was leaked by the FBI/CIA if I remember correctly.
There are tons of people within the Trump admin and other parts of government which will undermine the Trump admin.

Too bad Trump is not Stalin…Because a purge is whats needed at this point.

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