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Jason Reza Jorjani – The Iranian Renaissance & Aryan Imperium

Jason Reza Jorjani, PhD is a native New Yorker and Iranian-American of Persian and Northern European descent. After receiving his BA and MA at New York University, he completed his doctorate in Philosophy at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. Jorjani currently teaches Science, Technology, and Society (STS) at the New Jersey Institute of Technology. He is the author of Prometheus and Atlas (Arktos, 2016). Dr. Jorjani is also a member of the Iranian Renaissance movement.

Jason returns to Red Ice for another fascinating show, this time on the subject of Iran. To begin, Jason tells us about the Iranian Renaissance Movement, including its history and goals. Jason clears up some misconceptions about the movement, and assures us that its success would only benefit Europeans. We then dive into the history of Iran, starting with the Aryans. We discussing the origins of the very term “Aryan”, and clarify that the Aryans were, in fact, White. Jason sheds light on the relationship between ancient Iran and classical Greece, explaining that the Iranian spirit had far more in common with Sparta than Athens. The first half of our show also deals with a variety of historical figures in Iranian history, including Zarathustra, Cyrus, and Ferdowsi, in addition to touching on many other aspects of Iranian history.

In the members’ segment, we continue our conversation on the history of Iran. We begin by discussing the Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the visionary ruler who modernized Iran but was later forced into exile after a Western-backed coup. Jason tells us about the the Islamist takeover in 1979, and we ponder why Western elites would want Iran to become an Islamic theocracy. We discuss Barack Obama’s betrayal of Iranians, the Arab Spring, and the rise of Isis. Jason explains how to Make Iran Great Again, and outlines his hopes for Trump’s Iran policy. The members’ segment also explores Iran’s place in the wider Indo-European world, and the possibility of an Indo-European World Order.

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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

If at any time Richard Spencer wants to chime in and explain to his readers what the hell he was thinking in conflating the alt right with Iranian racial fantasies, I’m all ears.

Crud Bonemeal
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Any idea of cooperation between White (European) Nationalists and Iranians should be based on honestly, not deception. It must be based in a frank acknowledgement of our differences and the fact that we are distinct and separate groups, which may (at times) have similar interests (or not, depending on the situation). For example, we might share a strong interest in avoiding a U.S. war with Iran. However, it’s misleading to focus on occasional similarity of appearance, when there are real and measurable genetic differences. And it can be misleading to use the word “Aryan”, if it is used to imply… Read more »
Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

The Volga empties into the Caspian Sea right? That was route one for the Vikings into Asia.

craicher
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Turkey is a good, verifiable example of the genetic changes that Islam brings to a country. It was White, European until conquered by Islam. According to some even the Norse god Odin was from there. After Islam what happened to all the White people? A few remenants are all that is left. That being said I met a blue eyed, blond man the other day who was Turkish. I think Iran is too far away and too murkey for most of us Westerners to know how White it was or is for sure. Therefore, it is easy to fall for… Read more »
Arne Klutz
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That Iranians could in any way contribute to Western civilisation is simply not true. In Sweden, their overrepresentation in crimes such as gang rape, the drug trade, murders and assaults are profound. They are parasiting on a host civilisation they cannot aspire to ever embed themselves in. The avg IQ of Iran is 85 vs the European avg IQ of 100. Any claims of close genetic relationship must also be disputed, the typical Iranian DNA contains large amount of sub-saharan haplogroups, something which led to the medieval Persian reversal after the extensive sexual mating with black slaves, and since it… Read more »
Parthian
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Major Haplogroups of Iran are R1a, R1b, J2, and G. Afro-iranians came from the slave trade and are in the south of Iran.

Your IQ data comes from a book that averages IQ scores and includes 6-12 year olds.

Arne Klutz
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The sub-saharan admixture extends much beyond southern Iran, hence the decaying culture and lack of vitality can be observed throughout the country, not only in the south. The historical lowering of IQ towards sub-sahara levels reflects that. In fact, the avg Iranian stands at the same level as blacks in the US, IQ 85. It can be observed, among others, in similar crime rates, primitive expressions of culture and that general lethargy that low IQ people seem to generically share. These sand monkeys can never fit in in an European/US context and must be deported

craicher
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From personal experience I have met a few Iranians who could pass for a Mediterranean type European but most have the Arabic look: huge hook noses, extremely hairy, short and swarthy. I’ve even met a Zoroastrian, a people who are presumably originally Aryan, and does not resemble a European at all. The Kurds, also said to be of some distant Aryan origin, are the same. I’m sure you can pull some European looking Iranians out of the hat, but I think in general these are not White/European peoples. Therefore we should only be concerned with how Iran does or does… Read more »
Parthian
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Religion doesn’t change someones appearance. Zoroastrians in India have South Asian appearances. Keep in mind Iran is composed of multiple tribes, Iranian and Non-Iranian.

Northern Iran has a high population of “European” looking people, we have historically fought against the Arab invaders and have been very nationalistic. I will say that darker people who came from Iran aren’t really interested in these “Aryan” movements from my experience.

craicher
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It does with Islam as Islam was created as and is a diabolical plan for Muhammad and his people (the sand negros) to spread their seed to the entire planet. A plan for the worldwide genetic conquest of mankind by a lower race of sub humans. It was quite ingenious of a sub human to come up with such a plan which leads me to believe dark forces were guiding his every move, especially his communion with the so-called Gabriel. If it was an angel he communed with it was certainly the fallen angel. Back to our world; any nation… Read more »
Parthian
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I have no traceable dna linking me to these “arabs” and im likely not the only one. cool story tho

craicher
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That is more likely if you are a member of a minority separate from the Muslims. Are you? But like I said, I’m sure you can pull some White/European Iranians out of your hat but as for the nation as a whole, that is not my understanding and experience of Iranian people. Also many Iranians are of Central Asian descent or are mixed with them. Hardly White/Aryan/European, and more like Attila the Hun. Well now we know what bee you have in your bonnet; you’re an Iranian with Aryan fantasies. There is no doubt Aryans were there but they were… Read more »
Joseph Curwen
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Why should we provide an echo chamber to this LARPer and his ideas? why should we care about Iran and Iranian Renaissance?

We must the secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

jsigur
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This is what his history lessons are for. To brainwash you into believing you owe everything to Iranian history

jsigur
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Because they want us to fight Iran for Jews, obviously. Jorjani is giving you a racialist goy friendly explanation to do so. Please note, Jorjani comes from wealth and a family in close proximity to the shah power structure before the revolution. He just openly admitted he wanted the country returned to the way it was before. Finally, My dad is from Croatia but I don’t spend all my time worrying about Croatia and lobbying for political action on it’s behalf. Also, Jorjani is a dual citizen. Does anyone else recognise the problems of dual citizenry in this country in… Read more »
Saxon
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why are we even talking about the Persian question on an altrite site? Idiocy.

Reinhard_Wolff
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Have you considered the possibility of your question being answered in the interview?

jsigur
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Because the leaders are herding you

Saxon
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Altrite suits this shit. That’s what I call it from now on. Not right but rite…phonetics after all. Or Ebonics.

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

Jason explains how to Make Iran Great Again

How about explaining why any European would ever want to bother doing so?

Reinhard_Wolff
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Did you listen to the show prior to asking that question?

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

Was it his usual nonsense about Europe being unable deal with its Muslim problem without Iran?

jsigur
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pay no attention to Tom the shill, that’s his autobot response

ThomasER916
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pay no attention to jsigur the autiste, he’ll call you a “hater” for lampooning Jews then attack you for not attacking Jews.

jsigur
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God is in the details bro, which you never get to

ThomasER916
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No. So you admittedly didn’t listen and you’re being an idiot.

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

Having read him before and found his viewpoint utterly ludicrous, listening felt a waste of my time. Could you summarize the reasons he gave as you understood them? Thanks.

Ryan Andrews
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There is a certain boldness in Jorjani’s revisionist take on the Greco-Persian wars, but that doesn’t make it any less absurd. Miller’s framing of the conflict as one between ‘freedom-loving’ Greeks and the Persian forces of slavery is hardly a fictional innovation. This was the way Herodotus himself characterized the conflict, as I’m sure Jorjani himself knows. The reason Herodotus saw it this way, and the reason most Westerners have always seen it the same way, is fairly obvious: Athens was a democracy defending itself against a monarchical empire. I mean, damn, this is not that tough a nut to… Read more »
silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

He comes off as a larping nutjob. That’s the most obvious and immediate conclusion to draw and I have to seriously question the political acumen of anyone who fails to draw it. *cough*RichardSpencer*cough*

Ryan Andrews
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I just assume taking a break from Mideastern intrigue for a while. But if Iranians want to light a flame for Zoroaster, they have my moral support.

jsigur
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are you defending democracy?

Katachthonios
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Aren’t they all just useful idiots for Trump, and wasn’t he an election candidate in a democracy?

jsigur
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Yes, but it is not clear to me at the present time that the top Jews were against Trump. They may have exactly what they wanted and used their lower tier Jews to argue the other side

Ryan Andrews
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Eh, generally speaking, I think it is right that the individual should have some say over how he is governed, but the devil is in the details. Speaking more specifically, I would much prefer being a citizen an democratic ethno city-state to living in a satrapy system that is lorded over by a foreign ruler.

jsigur
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Democracy is the Jew-preferred method of controlling the goyim till they come out from behind the curtain and you don’t want that because when they do that, they are so powerful, there is no way to oust themcomment image

A hymn to Hermes
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Athenian Democracy isn’t anything like what we call democracy today. It was a hybrid between an aristocracy with the layer of abstract institutions you see in modern, democratic states. The idea was rule by law, isonomia, rather than the simple propertarian patrimony of a true aristocracy but none the less the ruling cohort was by no means representative of a population of people. The Athenians did not call their system own Democracy. The idea of Greece being about freedom and Persia being about slavery has more to do with the latter being an imperium with subject foreign populations ruled over… Read more »
Ryan Andrews
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Athenian Democracy isn’t anything like what we call democracy today. It was a hybrid between an aristocracy with the layer of abstract institutions you see in modern, democratic states. That was the state of things when the Persians first invaded. By the time the Persian threat had retreated (a couple generations later), Athens was a much more radical direct democracy, though at this point it was also on its way to becoming an empire. The idea of Greece being about freedom and Persia being about slavery has more to do with the latter being an imperium with subject foreign populations… Read more »
Marathon-Youth
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Good point

adolf binladin
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>Iranian American
>native new Yorker
pick one and only one

jsigur
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a clear dual citizen problem with the emphasis on Iranian allegiance

adolf binladin
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No kidding

cabra kaboom
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When people refer to themselves as native New Yorkers I ask if they are Seneca or Oneida.

💜🐬 SanLuisLife 🌳
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Here here! There’s a reason we’re called Iranian. We’d take care of our own not open migration corridors.

JC Neville
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Can anybody post the second half? Red Ice TV doesn’t interest me for a full subscription but this interview was interesting as fuck.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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Hendrik and Lana need Shekels too. Nothing is free.

JC Neville
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Thanks for the highly insightful and totally necessary comment.

Just to spite you, I’m going to subscribe and put a link to it here.

Idiot.

cabra kaboom
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Are you half dindu or what?

Kurwenal
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Fascinating conversation.

Jason, have you ever explored the connection between Gobineau, the noble father of Aryanism, and Iran?

He was one of the first “alt-right” thinkers to implicitly advocate for a
spiritual reunification of both Western and Eastern Aryans.

He is worth being rediscovered and reinterpreted for the XXI century – in a suprahumanist and archeofuturistic manner.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/gobineau

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

He is worth being rediscovered and reinterpreted for the XXI century – in a suprahumanist and archeofuturistic manner.

That’s awesome to know. We can all larp so much harder now.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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I know Jason Jorjani is involved in the site, but I don’t really see the point of all these “Indo-Aryan” perspectives.

The fact is that Iran is lost as a vital state and society until it stops being Islamic.

Captain John Charity Spring MA
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Captain John Charity Spring MA

Goyim I

Crud Bonemeal
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Agree with re: not seeing the point of this sort of thing. Iranians aren’t European, never have been. On the other hand, I kind of take the opposite perspective re: the Iranian regime. I’m no expert but it sort of seems like the current Iranian regime has done a decent job of walking a path somewhere in between full retard Islam and the destructive degeneracy of the West. Sure, they talk some crazy shit sometimes, but they seem to have played pretty it smart in a hostile world, while at least limiting their exposure to the destructive insanity of the… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
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I don’t see anyone on the Alt Right clamoring for regime change in Iran. My point is that Jorjani’s “Iranian Renaissance” can’t happen until Persians embrace their past and remove all Islamic influence. That would include cultural steps like replacing the Farsi Arabic script with the Latin alphabet, something Ataturk did in Turkey to help make Turks proud of their own identity apart from Arab Muslims. You are correct that Iran has walked about as fine a line as possible for a Muslim society, embracing aspects of modernity and traditionalism. This may be due to Shia eschatology, which holds Ali… Read more »
jsigur
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the leaders or the handlers of the leaders brought Jorjani in for a reason. Notice Jew’s have a halo over their head according to Jorjani

ThomasER916
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“My point is that Jorjani’s “Iranian Renaissance” can’t happen until Persians embrace their past and remove all Islamic influence.”

It’s clear you didn’t actually listen to the podcast.

jsigur
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Jews aren’t worth discussing in Jorjani’s world view just evil Muslims. Does anyone see an orchestrated effort to get us to fight goyim wars for Jews going on?

ThomasER916
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STFU faggot

jsigur
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Hey Tommie, only shills and girls hide their content on Disqus, FYI!

jsigur
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comment image Did I say something inaccurate? Demonizing Muslims with no mention of Jews, though kosher is insane analysis unless you are serving Jewish power. Tommie, remember, you are @altright.com, not Anglin’s hate rag

ThomasER916
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TL;DR

You’re sperging.

A hymn to Hermes
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I’m pretty sure jsigur is McZOG. 99% of his commments will be directed against WNs.

jsigur
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yea, misdirection occurs in all forms. Hopefully you don’t know that cause otherwise you are part of the problem Anglin attacks Jews while never outing a Jew false flag. That’s called leaving the Jew glasses on when gazing on events of the world go study protocols 12-5 ” 5. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the goy communities to such an extent the they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses;” Anglin keeps the glasses on and… Read more »
Philosophy14 ✓Alt-Right
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The Iranian Peoples – who make up 61-65% of Iran, depending on the source – are Indo-European Peoples; specifically ethnic Persians (who are 51%) as well as Kurds and Lurs. Farsi, AKA Persian, is an Indo-European language. It’s unfortunate that the Arabian desert cult of Islam has driven a wedge between our Peoples. There should be far more collaboration between the Aryan Iranian Peoples and the West.

Jonathan Strauss
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There’s good and bad people in every race culture and group. That’s the human race. Don’t point fingers.

jsigur
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Notice the propaganda to support Jorjani being pinned at the top. You guys like being obviously herded around?comment image

Katachthonios
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‘Muh Ayran White Supremacy’…said Matt Hale before betting said by the FBI for 40 years in prision. ‘Muh Ayran White Supremacy’ said Bill White before being set up by the FBI for 27 years in prison, ‘Muh Ayran White Supremacy’ said all the Ayran Nations members before most of them went to prison. See the pattern? Spencer’s cell is probably being decorated right now, in a super-max on the fringes of Ohio. Lots of people exploit Ayran Traditions for money, and it doesn’t work. And White Nationalists are too thick to know what they are supporting, but saying ‘Aryan’ to… Read more »
jsigur
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Weren’t those ppl you named ops. Matt Hale didn’t say the word Jew in his last book supposedly from prison where his mother fund raises 24/7 for his retrial. Excellent comment by the way with acute clarity

Katachthonios
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I think White was an op after the first arrest as part of a ‘deal’. Generally speaking there is at least one ‘op’ in every movement. Bound to be one here, and probably more. Generally the one with the dumbest ideas trying to provoke reckless acts is the op. Though a reckless act for the Alt-Right is probably just more (yawn) frog memes.

MisatoKatsuragi
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I am going to listen to this considering the international tensions with Iran currently.

MisatoKatsuragi
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I find your cultural arguments for this new Persian empire quite intriguing. I just think its odd how this movement perpetuates racism in America, but argues against it for countries aligned to Russia.

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