My relationship with Stephen Miller (one of Donald Trump’s advisors) has been overblown by the media. No surprise there.

I knew Stephen Miller while we both attended Duke University some 10 years ago. I was a graduate student in the History Department; he was an undergrad; we were both members of the Duke Conservative Union. I was extremely impressed with him, and I’m happy to have known him. I am not surprised in the least by his success.

After we left Duke, we drifted apart. The last time we spoke was, I think, around 2009. We were friends, but we haven’t been in communication for some time.

Our major collaboration together was a debate on immigration, which brought Peter Brimelow (Editor and Founder of Vdare.com) to Duke’s campus.

I “mentored” Stephen—the word that has become a meme—in the sense that I was little bit older and tried to impress on him the values that drive my thinking.

Our relationship has been reported on accurately by Josh Harkinson (who first broke the story) and Tim Mak. But unfortunately, the “Richard Spencer is Stephen Miller’s mentor” meme has gotten out of hand.

It’s useful to look back at these reports (both of which were written by liberals who are critical of both Stephen and me).

Josh Harkinson in Mother Jones:

Spencer was more explicit about his views on race and immigration with members of the Duke Conservative Union, where he says he clicked with a columnist for the campus newspaper and fellow DCU member named Stephen Miller. Miller—who would earn acclaim for standing up for white lacrosse players falsely accused of gang raping a black woman—is now a senior adviser to the Trump campaign.

Spencer also defended the Duke lacrosse players, writing about the case for The American Conservative—but that’s not the only reason he and Miller hit it off. Spencer says Miller helped him with fundraising and promotion for an on-campus debate on immigration policy that Spencer organized in 2007 featuring influential white nationalist Peter Brimelow. Another former member of the DCU confirmed that Miller and Spencer worked together on the event. At DCU meetings, according to a past president for the group, Miller denounced multiculturalism and expressed concerns that immigrants from non-European countries were not assimilating.

“It’s funny no one’s picked up on the Stephen Miller connection,” Spencer says. “I knew him very well when I was at Duke. But I am kind of glad no one’s talked about this because I don’t want to harm Trump.”

I never promoted this story. Indeed, many, many journalists asked me if I knew someone on the campaign, and I brushed off the questions. It was only after Josh Harkinson presented me with his research—and he had done a tremendous amount—that I confirmed the relationship and spoke about it publicly.

Tim Mak also quoted me accurately and fairly in his subsequent piece:

“I spent a lot of time with him at Duke… I hope I expanded his thinking… but I think he probably would be where he is today without me as well,” Spencer said, adding that he felt Miller was a “highly competent person, and a brave person.”

I hope I influenced Stephen, as I hope I influence everyone I come into contact with. That said, Stephen is his own man, and we have different political philosophies.

There’s no man behind the curtain.

 

 

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FashyGoy
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The disavow game has gotten quite stale.

From Ohio
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So when are you going to the White House Mr Spencer?

Abcdedcba
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Spencer/Tequila 2020

Sean Fielding
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Thanks for these further details, Richard, but we already know that you are a man of honor with a working memory. Our question is whether Miller has a shred of honor, since many of us perfectly recall the following, also from the Mother Jones piece: “Miller did not respond on the record to specific questions about his activities with the DCU or his views on immigration, but he denied being close to Spencer. “I have absolutely no relationship with Mr. Spencer,” he wrote in an email to Mother Jones. “I completely repudiate his views, and his claims are 100 percent… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
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It would be sad if Miller’s denial does him in and he gets caught in a lie. No one would care if he admitted working with Spencer 10 years ago when they were both Paleocons and the Alt Right didn’t exist. Miller’s lying really made things worse for himself, the left is going to be calling for his head now.

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/email-2007-ties-trump-adviser-stephen-miller-neo-nazi-richard-spencer

Sean Fielding
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The Forward states that either Miller or Bannon inserted “America First” into the Inauguration Speech, which suggests one of the two was responsible for Trump’s first major use of the phrase in his foreign policy speech from April 2016. If Miller is the driving force behind this stuff (and to repeat, we may never know), does that make him the elusive good Jew? Realpolitik suggests it does.

Abcdedcba
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Indeed. He could distance himself from Richard without outright lying. I am pissed.

Yehudah Finkelstein
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When Miller went to the White House, he called Spencer and told him this:

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hardtruths
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antisemitism is the symptom of the problem. the problem is non-Jews will be forever unable-unwilling to accepteJews. It is like trying to keep oil and water mixed; as soon as you stop the mixer they revert to their natural unmixed state.

No mattter houw many Jewish Holocausts antisemitism is always there and Jews know it.

The Holooaust Museums, and many other things, in fact promote antisemites.

litdog
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Thanks for the nice article augmenting the earlier reporting. Miller’s definitely been a force behind Sessions, and he’s likely to exert considerable influence on Trump’s rhetoric. (And perhaps already did with the Inaugural Address.) Unfortunately, this post skips the opportunity to address “disavowals.” It’s been reported that Miller has disavowed Spencer. It’s been exhaustively demonstrated that disavowals don’t accomplish anything for our side. The left just moves on to the next demand, and the normies are no more impressed than if the initial demand had simply been ignored. Furthermore, disavowals reinforce the left’s taboos. Jumping from Miller to Bud, Anheuser-Busch… Read more »
fnd111
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Time to boycott Budweiser! Their beer is horrible anyway. #boycottbud

jsigur
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Well, again. The alt-right is “the enemy”. The ammo the Jews use is the false holocaust narrative and therefore the evil German Nazis. As long as you avoid these background charges that allow them to paint you, there is no way to legitimize, not to mention your disowning what is in reality a proud past where a great white leader did the right thing rather than cave to Jewish powercomment image

rick rage
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any enemy of my enemy is not only my friend, but my hero. richard rocks. the more my enemy fusses and frets on richard, or any one else, the more they rock.

Buzz-Killer
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You are what we call a sycophant…

jsigur
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haha, great point!

Buzz-Killer
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Sycophant 2.0

Laguna Beach Fogey
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OT: Why does Hunter Wallace’s website OccidentalDissent website seem so more advanced and professional-looking than AltRight.com? Will there be anyone else other than Hunter Wallace involved in AltRight.com going forward?

jsigur
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well you can upgrade the house before you move in or after. If before, you own another house as well. All that said, this website looks fine. Go to Raddix if you want eye-candy

Laguna Beach Fogey
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No, it doesn’t. No reason we can’t have superior content and a good-looking site. Note to self: must be more patient.

jsigur
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the site is typical. I would assume it’s not important to focus on and a decision of little consequence to doing our job- removing the Jews from power

Celestial Time
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It’s the same software, running the same version of the software. The only difference is the template/style, and it’s not very much of a difference. What exactly is “advanced” about OD?

Laguna Beach Fogey
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Different layout. Tighter presentation. More activity. OD seems to be managed.

Celestial Time
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They are both WordPress websites. The layout is virtually identically—as are 90% of all WordPress websites. There are very minor “widget” differences and basic style/css differences, but nothing I would ever categorize as “more advanced and professional looking.” I’ve done web design and UI & UX design for years. I’ve listened to suggestions and complaints about website design for a long time, but I’m really having a hard time seeing anything that is even remotely significant between the two website presentations.

Abcdedcba
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Miller seems to have thrown Richard under the bus. He could have said:

“Richard is a smart and hard-working person with whom I worked closely at Duke despite the deep disagreements on some issues that we had and still have.”

Instead, he went full cuck.

Fuck him. He’s a coward.

Crud Bonemeal
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I’m no fan of (((Steven miller))), (I’m neutral / skeptical) but get real man.

The guy is a big deal at the white house while Spencer is a hated figure on the political margins, radioactive to mainstream conservatives.

Even if Miller was actually on our side, practical considerations would make it prudent for him to distance himself from Spencer in clear terms, rather than equivocating.

Taqiyya

Abcdedcba
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To be clear, Miller gained less than nothing from lying.

Had he told the truth, he would have been a confirmed “former close associate of international thought criminal Richard Spencer.”

Now, with the testimony of Richard and other former Duke colleagues of Miller’s, not only is Miller a confirmed “former close associate of international thought criminal Richard Spencer”, he’s also a confirmed liar and a confirmed pussy.

As mike points out, leftists pretty much never punch left. Why play by a set of rules if your enemies are playing by a different set?

Crud Bonemeal
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It would be nice for us if Miller said something more honest, and chose not to gratuitously “punch right”. I just think you’re expecting too much from these people. And the left right spectrum can be misleading here. The left benefits from punching both civic and white nationalists. The Trumpers benefit from punching the left, but to a lesser extent also benefits from punching us, or at least suppressing us, and keeping us from a) embarrassing them, or b) rivaling them or (maybe) c) becoming independent of them. They also earn points with their base from punching us, although they… Read more »
Abcdedcba
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I don’t know if I really buy that. Regardless, we are all in this boat together. Most leftists don’t see any difference between Trump and Spencer in terms of ideology. Trump and his people have nothing to gain from punching right. Nothing. Every time the jews try to link Trump and his people to “white supremacists”, the response shpuld be the same: “Politics always involves working with people you don’t agree with 100%, and sometimes it involves working with people with whom you have profound philosophical and tactical disagreements. I’m not going to play this disavowel game when you dishonest… Read more »
Yehudah Finkelstein
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There would no issue if Miller said he worked with Spencer 10 years ago. The Alt Right didn’t exist in 2007. Spencer was a Paleocon back then.

There is now a huge issue because there is a paper trail proving Miller lied about working with Spencer. Now, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump fires Miller. Trump does not like people who aren’t straight with him.

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/michael-f-brown/email-2007-ties-trump-adviser-stephen-miller-neo-nazi-richard-spencer

Sean Fielding
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Rather than see Miller fired, I’d far rather see a Trumpean inner circle validation of the real dissident right. But I don’t expect a forced choice either way. First, this story is not a big enough deal for it to grow legs only twelve days into Trump’s blitzkrieg. He is bombarding his opponents with so much ordnance they haven’t even time to dig a trench. Second, just because Miller fibbed to Mother Jones doesn’t mean he lied to Trump. Who is to say Trump hasn’t known of Miller’s intellectual connections to Spencer, Sailer and Brimelow all along? Wouldn’t that be… Read more »
mike5586
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“radioactive to mainstream conservatives.”

Yeah, but why? Because leftists SAY he is? Fuck them, the right should stop disavowing people on the right. The other side never does it, and ignore any attempts to call them out on it.

Crud Bonemeal
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because mainstream conservatives are just another form of liberal

sadly Trump needs them to vote for his stuff

Abcdedcba
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What?

Did I advocate “equivocating”?

Miller could make it very clear that he profoundly disagrees with many of Richard’s beliefs and that he and Richard haven’t been in contact in many years without lying. Or cucking.

Crud Bonemeal
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Forgiving or not forgiving isn’t particularly relevant. It’s more like those comments should make you aware that you might have been projecting too much onto Eric Trump or whoever.

It’s a mistake to think that these people are us, or anything close to us. Civic nationalism is in many ways the opposite of White Nationalism. Eventually, we’ll find ourselves on opposite sides.

And it’s not really cucking for a Jew (or a guy with a family full of Jews) to disavow the actual Alt-Right, which has (at the very minimum) judeo-skepticism as a core principle.

silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ
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silviosilver ✓ᵀʳᵘᵐᵖ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒʳᵗᵉʳ

On the other hand, that this is even being discussed is a sign that things are headed in our direction. This is a much “higher quality problem” to have, for example, than being stuck debating cucks on the merits or otherwise of a war on Iraq.

Laguna Beach Fogey
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Okay, great! Glad we cleared that up.

Moving on…

shabbygoy
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O/T Time for the alt-right to unveil its best kept secret – Jonathon Bowden. The NPI is the perfect platform to raise his profile (on the coattails of Richard). We need to weave Jonathon into the mythology of the alt-right. I see him as a teacher/guru archetype. All the NPI gatherings should conclude the meetings with a few words from him. A ritual 10 minutes or so of his best speeches, “We’re not sorry” is one of my favorites. A slick, state of the art presentation, with a good sized screen, excellent audio and carefully chosen JB words. Then all… Read more »
melonhead
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What about William Pierce? I haven’t listened to as much of his stuff as Bowden though, and I agree, we underuse him. So unfortunate he hasn’t survived, I’m sure he’d have loved our current world.

Hannibal Bateman
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Alas, Mr Bowden passed away in 2012 but I agree if he was alive, this would be his time.

Christian Talour
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“Richard Spencer American Nazi Leader”… wow.

Buzz-Killer
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To quote the great American wrestler Kurt Angle, “It’s true. It’s true”.

invincible white owl
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Very good clarifying of the connection for anyone who is just hearing of it via the “Stephen Miller’s mentor” meme. I’ve been hearing/reading the meme being bandied about lately, but I’d read the Harkinson article whenever it was first published, so I was thus able to discern that the “mentor” business was Luegenpresse embellishments.