An open letter from the Editor-in-Chief of Arktos Media.

To the Philosophy Faculty and Graduate Students of Stony Brook University,

On December 5th the Leiter Report, the leading blog in academic philosophy (famous for its departmental rankings), featured a post by Brian Leiter himself libelously describing me as a “NeoNazi” and identifying the New Jersey Institute of Technology as my workplace and the State University of New York at Stony Brook as the institution that granted me a PhD. I am still on the Stony Brook Philosophy Department graduate student list serve (you forgot to unsubscribe me when I graduated), so I regularly receive student representative notes from faculty meetings. In a meeting held on December 7th, an unidentified person (the only unidentified person in the transcript) asserts that a PhD alumnus “is involved with the Aryan White Supremacist movement” and announces that there will be a review of my dissertation research preceding a possible public statement disavowing me. The claimant concluded after watching “a couple” of my videos (I currently have 23, in English and Persian, on my YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMf21PmH0izn6K-m-RfJR_A/playlists) that “they are appropriately described as Aryan White Supremacist.” While I am not named in these notes, I am eventually named by a current graduate student later in the email thread that begins with an upload of the faculty meeting notes, where the statement “many people are concerned” also suggests that I have already been widely slandered and defamed. Here are images of all of the relevant posts and messages.

 

 

 

What disturbs me the most is that in attendance at this meeting were two internal readers of my dissertation (Edward S. Casey and Megan Craig), as well as three other professors I studied under during my four years in the department (Clyde Lee Miller, Harvey Cormier) – including the current department chair (Mary Rawlinson). These five people, well at least four of them (I did not have much interaction with Mary) came to know me well enough that they should find such claims incredible and, at the very least, I ought to have received a private email or phone call from them (they all have my contact information) before they held a meeting declaring that they are preparing to publicly denounce me and possibly attempt to revoke my doctoral degree. I am appalled by this irresponsibility and lack of integrity on the part of my former professors, and I demand an apology. That ought to be the kind of public statement made and should the department decide to denounce or disavow me despite this warning, I can imagine a libel suit against the State University of New York that would become a crusade for the cause of academic freedom that, perhaps after a number of appeals, ends in a spectacular victory at the United States Supreme Court under the Trump Administration.

An evaluation of my full body of writings (https://www.righton.net/author/jasonrezajorjani/) and video interviews in the public domain – including and especially my book Prometheus and Atlas – would never support Leiter’s defamation or your slanderous attack on my character. I have never understood what “Neo” is supposed to mean in the context of “NeoNazi”, other than an evocation of Hollywood depictions of “skin head” militiamen. A National Socialist is a National Socialist. Martin Heidegger, the greatest philosopher of the 20th century, was a National Socialist. I am not one, even if I have argued, rightly (in my October Stockholm speech), that National Socialist Germany was the only political regime to seriously consider the implications of mainstream scientific recognition and widespread cultivation of those latent human capacities hitherto marginalized as “paranormal.” To put my relationship to National Socialism in the language of the Left, since most of my accusers fancy themselves of that political persuasion, to call me a National Socialist is like calling someone a Stalinist simply because he is a Marxist. A Trotskyite would certainly be defamed by such an epithet, and would be rightly outraged to be subjected to that kind of slander. I am not any kind of nationalist.

Even if I am a strong supporter of the Iranian nationalist opposition to the Islamic Republic, which not incidentally is where my discourse of Aryan identity comes from, it is because I see a resurgence of the humanitarian legacy of Zarathustra and Cyrus the Great as a tremendous benefit for shaping the world order of the 21st century. When I speak of the Aryan heritage it is in affirmation of the millions of Iranians who spontaneously made a pilgrimage to the tomb of Cyrus the Great on October 29th of this year and last, chanting slogans such as “We are Aryans, we don’t worship Arabs!” and “Our Aryan Cyrus, Your honor is our honor!” Predictably, the lying international press did not give this mass demonstration and harbinger of the overthrow of Islam in Iran (not just as a political system, but as a religious ideology) the media coverage that it deserved.

Why? Because making sense out of the discourse of Aryan identity in Iran violates your false narrative that white colonialists have always oppressed non-whites, when in fact the worst genocide in history was committed by mindlessly murderous non-whites against a humanitarian and progressive civilization produced by Caucasians. It requires recognizing the genocide of the “Aryan Empire” (Iran Shahr in middle Persian, Aryana Khashatra in ancient Persian) at the hands of waves of non-whites who were savage and sadistic conquerors; not only the Arabs, but also the Asiatic Turks and Mongols who zealously embraced and reimposed Islam after decimating half of Iran’s population and subjecting the other half to forced miscegenation. This catastrophe took place just when Iranians were on the brink of gaining their independence from the Arabian Caliphate that parasitically passed off Iranian cultural achievements as their own (your so-called ‘Islamic’ Golden Age) by forcing persecuted and oppressed scholars to write in Arabic (rather than their native Persian). I’ve studied Iran for more than 20 years. In fact, I almost sought a doctorate in Iranian Studies rather than in Philosophy, and much of my support for the Alt-Right’s struggle to prevent another white genocide (this time in Europe) is based on an understanding of the first and greatest genocide of whites.

It makes no more sense to equate my views with those of Richard Spencer (let alone Adolf Hitler) simply because he patted me on the back on stage for a minute than it does to claim that Barack Obama is a Wahhabi responsible for all of Saudi Arabia’s routinely inhuman barbarity because he knelt and kissed the Saudi King’s hand or sheepishly accepted a medal from him.

In fact, the latter is far more evidence of Obama being an Islamic fundamentalist traitor than my interaction with Spencer is evidence supporting any description of me as an “Aryan White Supremacist” or “NeoNazi.” Even Richard Spencer cannot be fairly described in these terms, let alone myself. You make it seem as if we are supporters of that terribly confused and grotesquely misnamed ‘Aryan Nations’ terrorist group. That is more absurd than if one were to conflate any supporter of the state of Israel with a militant Zionist.

I might also add that, while I am extremely critical of those who unthinkingly embrace the diabolically manipulative Abrahamic religious tradition, as Nietzsche was, I am certainly not an “anti-semite”. Thinkers of Jewish descent have been among the deepest influences on my worldview and among my closest confidants: Henri Bergson, Franz Kafka (I have written an entire unpublished manuscript on Kafka), Leo Strauss, and Jeffrey Mishlove. And before anyone adds insult to injury by hurling the epithet “NeoCon” at me, I am not a Neoconservative in any way, shape, or form. I loathe them and consider their geopolitics a disgrace to the subtlety of Professor Strauss – especially his interpretations of classical thinkers such as Plato and Aristotle and his esoteric understanding of the dialectical relationship between Athens and Jerusalem.

The hundreds of hyper-intellectual millennials that I encountered at the 2016 National Policy Institute conference this November, where I was representing Arktos Media as a book distributor, included a number of Jews that I had the pleasure of spending more time with than anyone else over the weekend. In fact, three of them were among the seven (yes it was only seven!) people out of the three hundred attendees who were caught on film or in photographs giving the “Hail Victory!” Roman salute. The Atlantic’s smuggled footage was shot from two camera angles and spliced in order to make it appear otherwise, which, frankly, is more evidence in favor of Richard Spencer’s legitimate use of the term lügenpresse. The young folks that I spent time with are Jewish adherents of Fascism, like some of Benito Mussolini’s staunchest and closest supporters during his early years (in the 1920s) when his vision most extensively overlapped with that of Italian Futurism.

By your logic, and Brian Leiter’s, according to which I am a “Neo Nazi White Supremacist”, it would be fitting to refer to Jean-Paul Sartre as “that Maoist philosopher” who endorsed a tyrant responsible for mass killings that dwarf those of Hitler by far. Why not “that Shiite terrorist Michel Foucault”, after all his support for the Islamist takeover of Iran in 1979 – which has resulted in the horrific oppression of my fatherland for the past 35 years – extended to characterizing the horrendously inhumane and tyrannical Ayatollah Khomeini as “the Spirit of a World Without Spirit.” By the way, my outrage at Foucault for this political move on his part did not stop me from extensively drawing from his archeology of knowledge in developing the core thesis of Prometheus and Atlas. He is one of a number of radical leftist thinkers that I enter into a deep dialogue with. Paul Feyerabend is another. Their contributions were essential to developing my core concepts of the Spectral Revolution and Mercurial Hermeneutics, concepts which I’m afraid are evidently far beyond your grasp.

Politics is complicated, and political philosophy applied in the midst of the concrete revolutionary situations of a given society is even more complex. I am the Editor-in-Chief of the leading press of the New Right or Alt-Right. I am also a leading member of the Iranian Renaissance movement. These movements are connected by an Indo-European philosophical tradition that extends back through Heidegger and the Kyoto School to Nietzsche, Schelling, Hegel, Bruno, Suhrawardi, Plato, Aristotle, Heraclitus, Gautama Buddha, and Zarathustra. This Aryan heritage has roots in the Earth that are thousands of years old and the branches of its tree will grow through distant star systems. My intellectual project, which has barely entered its first phase with Prometheus and Atlas, is being carefully crafted with a view to the next 10,000 years of human evolution. To imagine that you can label my thought “NeoNazi” or “White Supremacist” and then file me away in your prison of prefab and facile categorizations is delusional and it only demonstrates your own spiritual poverty.

The Alt-Right is here to stay and, more than anyone else affiliated with it, I am encouraging dialog both within the movement and with serious and unconventional thinkers outside of it. The idiot in the Stony Brook Faculty meeting who concluded on the basis of watching “a couple” of my videos that I am such and such, somehow failed to notice or did not care to watch the nine interviews that I have done with Jeffrey Mishlove for his new Thinking Allowed television series. The overwhelming majority of the people that Jeffrey has interviewed on his programs could be described as leaning far to the left socially and politically. At no point did anyone in the Alt-Right who discovered Jeffrey’s program through watching my interviews ever complain that I was associating with people who are ideologically problematic. In fact, many people on the Alt-Right have become followers of the New Thinking Allowed on account of the programs that Jeffrey and I did together. Leiter and the Stony Brook Faculty also did not stop to watch my interviews with the leader(s) of the Iranian Renaissance. I know that half of these are in Persian, but the other half are in English. A young thinker in the Alt-Right was so drawn in by this aspect of my work that he started learning the Persian language, whereas my accusers acted as if these videos do not exist. All they saw was what they wanted to see and hear, and they even distorted that: a couple of appearances at Alt-Right and Identitarian conferences. My experience over the course of the past year has been that the Alt-Right, by and large, is far more tolerant and open minded than the Left. You just cemented that impression.

One of the key points of my very brief speech at NPI 2016 was that as Editor-in-Chief of Arktos I intend to increase the dialectical tension between the already exceptionally wide range of thinkers published by our press. We publish people who have nothing less than diametrically opposed viewpoints. For example, I am currently editing Alexander Dugin. Although we have common points of departure in the ontology of Martin Heidegger and the political theory of Carl Schmitt, our interpretations and developments of these thinkers could not be more sharply opposed. If Dugin were to read Prometheus and Atlas, he would probably consider me the incarnation of the coming Anti-Christ that he evokes in his books. Still, I find his writing interesting and constructively outside the box of the entrenched and dead-ended establishment ideology that you are so intent to safeguard. You are the totalitarian thought police and soma dispensers. I am a futurist, and a revolutionary.

Forever deplorably yours,

Jason Reza Jorjani, PhD
Editor-in-Chief, Arktos Media

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Eumaios
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Fantastic article! I am currently writing my PhD though I am far to terrified to even tell you which country it is in, let alone which university. I would have loved to have produced research under a supervisor like you, rather than spend years fabricating lies to pass my degrees. One of these days I want to strike the beast from within, but I am biding my time. It is terrifying to hear that a revocation of my PhD might be on the cards in the future. That knowledge makes it rather difficult to find the motivation to continue right… Read more »
Evolver1
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Nice article and nice Website. Keep up the good work!

MisatoKatsuragi
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you a sufi?comment image

Brody Millar
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Incredible article. As a descendant of Greeks, it pains me to see that my ancestral homeland was obviously affected by a massive muslim invasion that resulted in the stereotypical “modern Greek physique” that is phenotypically Turkish: brown eyes & hair. The original greeks had blue eyes & blonde hair. It’s obscene that the same leftists who promote ‘diversity’ envision a mocha-colored mix that has no diversity. Regardless, Iran could be an immensely powerful aryan nation without the shackles of Islam and the demonic Ayatollah, who peddles influence and terrorist endorsements for the only vibrant markets that Muslims have ever created… Read more »
MisatoKatsuragi
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Thank Ghengis Khan, his invasions and rule forced diversity to solidify his rule.

Friendo
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Some has-been has called Mr. Jorjani a “white supremacist”? What does that mean? What does that phrase mean “White Supremacist”?

hmm...
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reposting from dailynous Tom Davies · December 18, 2016 at 6:37 am I work in comparative Indo-European philology and ancient Greek philosophy. My research resembles some of Jorjani’s hobby-horses: I have argued, and continue to argue, that inherited Indo-European beliefs, along with contact from the Near East, had a significant impact on the development of early Greek philosophy. So I feel a sort of personal responsibility to point out, publicly and in detail, that Jorjani has no idea what he’s talking about. I don’t just mean in the sense that Jorjani is a white supremacist who believes the psychic inhabitants… Read more »
jsigur
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I see little difference in the objectives of this site and say, the “Gatestone Institute but for the write to a slightly different audience
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/

The picture is Nina Rosenwald, AKA Lasha Darkmoon

She’s the CEO of Gatestone- equivalent to Fribergcomment image

jsigur
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Is jason Jewish? I ask because he has a pro Jewish platfore, he’s from New YTork and it is common to disguise Jewishness with other identification marks and by his own admission, he hung out with Jews that did the hail Hitler deal. Was it preplanned by the three Jews to cause a ruckous? Also, Friberg is Jewish, the CEO of Arktos

jsigur
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she tries to be anonymous but it didn’t work. She’s the heiress to Sears and Roebuck and the world’s biggest Islamaphobe but shh, Only Rixon Stewart and Kevin McDonald are supposed to know!comment image
you may need these Jew glasses to totally get what I’m saying

russ
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L Darkmoon a disinformation operative?

jsigur
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see above

Joseph Curwen
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Do you have any evidence about Friberg being jewish?

jsigur
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Not hard evidence but I was doing a search and it was claimed in here
http://aryanism.net/blog/information/zc-list/comment image

The name sounds Jewish to me and I know they love influencing the dialogue of white people

Joseph Curwen
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That website is mudding the waters. There are certainly a number of jews mentioned there, but others that I’m 100% sure are not. Marion Maréchal-Le Pen, Geert Wilders (he loves the chosen ones but is not one of them) are not jews nor have immediate jewish blood.

jsigur
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that’s why I said I didn’t have hard evidence. It doesn’t help that Jews often hide their identity because they do not want us to know and why we have to be a bit invasive at times. Anytime a Jew wishes to speak for identarian values, it needs to be laid out on the table he is Jewish as we are all too aware how the power structure has subverted whites in cagey ways

FreeYourMindinSC
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Quite interesting. A new turn in a field (academic philosophy) badly in need of something — anything!! — to stir the pot? Hadn’t heard of Jason Reza Jorjani till the other day (surprise, surprise). Hope to learn more, including his take on Paul Feyerabend (on whom I wrote my MA thesis, back in the day …)

jsigur
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yea, deep intellectual Islamaphobia advocating a war with Iran for Jews but selling it to us as for whites. I love it!

russ
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You can’t make this crap up…

jsigur
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It’s true, hell the Jews got us to fight the Catholic church for whites when it was really for them so this is interesting this new take. Iran is really white so we need to kill the Muslims there!

russ
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Look at the creations they share, the Illuminati, the Masonic associations, the untold stolen wealth, the joinder they had with Christoper Columbus and his brother, Spanish Jews posing as Catholics, who enslaved and murdering over 1 million native American Indians. They both practice pedophilia. I’m not sure which group outranks the other but they are on the same team.

jsigur
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are you the Russ I know?

russ
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Yeah I’ve been on probation a couple times.

jsigur
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from what?

russ
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I was banned on FB and virused on Yahoo Njews. I lose interest in alt news bs. I track your stuff and Blindlight. I enjoyed the woman? that was on it.

jsigur
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good talkin

russ
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rite on be cool

jsigur
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We’re talking about pedophilia cause the Jew media 1 and 2 is talking about it. It’s nothing new and it’s waht you get for allowing Jew-masonry to take control

russ
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The Talmud is crystal clear about pedophilia and non Jews being animals in human skins.

jsigur
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not clear enough for Jorjani to comment since he seems to like to defame Abrahamic religions

Joseph Curwen
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The irony is that Jason really, really isn’t one of us. He doesn’t want to secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. He is not even a fellow traveler; he is just a LARPer who thinks he is a zoroastrian Magi, who likes to watch anime and jerking off to Heidegger books, like so many ‘intellectuals” here.

BTW, Heidegger was not a Nationalsocialist. Yes, he was a card carrying party member, but he fucked Arendt, what kind of Nationalsocialist have sex with jews?

jsigur
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horny ones?

Joseph Curwen
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Even if you are horny, Arendt was ugly as fuck. In fact, most of the jewish females are ugly as fuck; the only ones who are not ugly, and sometimes are even beautiful, are the ones with mixed blood: Scarlett Johanssen (mixed with swedish), Jennifer Connelly (mixed with irish), Eva Green (swedish and french).

jsigur
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of course, all good comes from white ppl, right? All smart blacks have white blood, right?

Joseph Curwen
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There is no “smart blacks”, there is lessdumb/functional niggers. By definition a nigger is not smart, like your cat or your dog are not smart.

jsigur
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and what’s your point about broadcasting this to the world like dumbfuck?

Joseph Curwen
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Go fuck yourself, troll.

jsigur
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nothing like the white privilege of acting like a white ass

russ
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Are you a troll? lol

machiaevil
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Actually you DO come out as a krypto-kike neocon Jerusalemite.

Brett Stevens
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Excellent. You spanked down the virtue signaling spiral and pointed out the complete lack of basis for their critique.

Not Convinced
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This post has three problems. First, no one says anything about your degree being revoked in those minutes, and you are actually the one who made public the contents of private conversations. Second, your own sense of self-importance is suffocating. A doctoral degree, publishing experience, and even political leadership are great accomplishments, but your language suggests that you think yourself, or at least your own thoughts, to represent a sort of second coming. A little humility, perhaps, would make your outrage seem less theatrical (i.e. intended to rile up others more than to convince your opponents of their wrong doing).… Read more »
jsigur
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I got no problem with what NAZIs were up to but beyond that, I agree with with your comment

DS Reif
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NC…Can you do no better than flatulent character assignation? Perhaps a course in composition might serve you. Most community colleges offer one. You could possibly be qualify for a minority scholarship program.

jsigur
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as you assassinate his character

Brett Stevens
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The Left schemes through “private conversations.” Remember JournoList? GamerGate?

jsigur
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I agree, the tactics implied in the emails looked like Jewish intimidation

Connor Alexander
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“Second, your own sense of self-importance is suffocating. A doctoral degree, publishing experience, and even political leadership are great accomplishments, but your language suggests that you think yourself, or at least your own thoughts, to represent a sort of second coming.” This is merely conjecture and not a matter of fact. Interpretations are to be taken as just that – interpretations. “A little humility, perhaps, would make your outrage seem less theatrical (i.e. intended to rile up others more than to convince your opponents of their wrong doing). It also would make your defense more convincing if it were not… Read more »
jsigur
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It’s true that through the holocaust myth, any association with Hitler is sold as a deal breaker and perhaps a reason to set the record straight and defend a great representative of the aryan race

propercharlie
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“problematic viewpoints that raise up the Aryan race and come at the cost of potential violence (ideologically or physically) to other races or religions.”

And then you call Islam a scapegoat? Potential violence by Europeans is evidently far, far worse than actual Islamic violence, per Mohammed.

jsigur
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Mohammed was a Jew tool

russ
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So was Constantine, the Vatican and the pope

Laguna Beach Fogey
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Surely this was to be expected, right?

Boggles the mind.

Is it really productive for Arktos, and the Alt-Right in general, to get involved in these academic squabbles?

I suppose that’s what you get when you put an academic in charge.

Deri
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I see what you are saying about this Leiter fellow, but it seems like the righteous indignation might be misplaced about your alma mater…it seems like those are private discussions that you yourself are posting publicly and possibly exaggerating in importance. There is no mention of revoking degrees, and there is nothing I would read as a “declaration” of any sort of preparations in the part of the minutes you quote. If every discussion is taken to be a declaration, then free discourse is indeed in trouble. Just be careful that the millennial tendency to overblow small slights doesn’t become… Read more »
jsigur
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persecution leads to quicker acceptance and more blind belief. A common infiltration tactic

David
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A paranoid, apophetic narcissist can easily believe not only in nonsense about “parapsychology” and the mystical, hidden powers of his own “Aryan race,” but also that someone pondering making a statement about him after looking over his dissertation amounts to a threat to revoke his PhD degree.

jsigur
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persecution sells credentials. He is giving whites a reason to fight Iran for Jews. That’s all he’s here to do and I assume Arktos, whose CEO is Jewish is in lock step

Jazukai
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Only the left is allowed to talk about race, anyone else is a nazi white surpemacist

jsigur
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I like how he’s linking the Jew desired war with Iran, and let’s be clear, Jews are the master Abrahamites, with Identarian, good for us politics. Is that intellectual “new-speak”?

Adam
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Still, your language is only revolutionary. I see no creativity in the alt right. Maybe creativity comes with Alt right 2.0. Somehow I doubt it. It’s possible to control the outcome of a forest fire. Sure, set the fire burn the underbrush and ensure ecological longevity and a healthy forest. I doubt if your words could control the outcome of a revolution. You’re libel to burn the whole forest down. Sustainable change is not revolutionary in essence, rather it is creative. Sustainable enlightenment is not the result of revolutionary excisive action. Sustainable enlightenment is the result of integral creativity. Right… Read more »
jsigur
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the alt-right is herding folks into the republican party. Haven’t you heard?

russ
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The tea party lasted as independent for what? 18 hours?

Dillon Francis
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Ladies and gentlemen this is how one types dozens and dozens of words but fails to communicate or impart anything of substance to the audience. Bravo 😉

TLMW
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“I see no creativity in the alt right.”
Haha, what?

Jazukai
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I think a lack of creativity is what powers the Alt-Right. They have humour and the workings of the internet on their side, but the creativity to say there are 56 genders and Africans had moon bases is not needed thanks.

jsigur
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creativity doesn’t have to be goofy

WellThatWasEdgy
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Wow

Pilleater
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Amazing stuff! You ARE a PhD professor! So many rich fools who bought the degree and survived DON’T deserve it! YOU deserve it and have shown it!

Not Convinced
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Um… Isn’t the issue that he actually got handed a degree without his professors actually doing a critical reading of his work and holding him fully accountable for the implications of his thought (otherwise this wouldn’t be news to them)? And doesn’t he confirm that by safeguarding the legitimacy of his degree with costly legal threats? The only way to “buy” a PhD is to financially threaten your department into agreeing that your claim about Hitler’s paranormal powers (somehow) isn’t Nazi propaganda.

Connor Alexander
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This speaks more to the actions of his doctoral committee than it does for himself. And, assuming you haven’t read his doctoral thesis or his now published book, you ought to refrain from making statements about the content of his work.

Dillon Francis
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Your accusers are likely to be jews.

machiaevil
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He is actually very Jew-friendly in case you haven’t noticed.

Dillon Francis
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Perhaps he is in public and more critical in private. Regardless, there are too many leftist jews in the academic world for one of them not to have picked up on the author’s non-mainstream writings.

FacioLibre
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The TRUTH is no defense.. 😀

Connor Alexander
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Excellently stated. Of course, they are the architects of their own destruction and the more they attempt to excise those willing to admit reality the more they will drive those excised seeking something more meaningful and stimulating.

And outlets such as RightOn and Arktos will be there to take them in and let them flourish like they never could on a place like Brian Lieter’s (LOL) blog.

Nature abhors a vacuum. And they’re creating the vacuum with which we (those willing to admit reality) will come to fill.

Katie Hopper
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Well said Jason. I discovered your work from New Thinking Allowed and was really pleasantly surprised to catch you on stage at NPI!

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